GMail phasing out basic view?
You know that with Google Mail, you can choose basic view (instead of the standard view which loads slower and has more features). Just now I discovered that I can't set this basic view as the default, as I could in the past. So if you have a slow computer or connection and your Gmail account is set to basic view, don't click on standard view anymore, because that will change the default and you can't go back! Actually, my computerconnection are not slow, it's just that I rarely need the extra features and I hate the wait while that standard view is loading. The bad feeling I get from this is that it looks like Google is preparing to phase out the basic view interface altogether. At the moment, you can still get it by clicking on a button while the interface is loading. Or by changing your bookmark to https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html At least, that's what someone on the forum writes. It doesn't work for me. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Highest OSX a G4 sawtooth can run?
I'm been thinking about making the change to Leopard as well. I have a 1ghz upgrade processor and 1 gig of ram in my Sawtooth. I also put in a GeForce FX 5200. Core Image and Quartz extreme supported. Worth taking the plunge? Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GMail phasing out basic view?
I only run into 'basic view' when I am on travel and dealing with a hotel with cruddy networking. Dr. Paul J. Cefola Adjunct Professor, Dept. Of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering, University at Buffalo (SUNY) Consultant in Aerospace Systems, Spaceflight Mechanics, Astrodynamics 508-696-1884 (Vineyard Haven MA home phone) 978-201-1393 (cell) paulc...@buffalo.edu paul.cef...@gmail.com On 10/17/2011 9:48 AM, Geke wrote: You know that with Google Mail, you can choose basic view (instead of the standard view which loads slower and has more features). Just now I discovered that I can't set this basic view as the default, as I could in the past. So if you have a slow computer or connection and your Gmail account is set to basic view, don't click on standard view anymore, because that will change the default and you can't go back! Actually, my computerconnection are not slow, it's just that I rarely need the extra features and I hate the wait while that standard view is loading. The bad feeling I get from this is that it looks like Google is preparing to phase out the basic view interface altogether. At the moment, you can still get it by clicking on a button while the interface is loading. Or by changing your bookmark to https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html At least, that's what someone on the forum writes. It doesn't work for me. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Pesky hardware problem
Sorry if this is a repeat message to some of you, but I never saw it post after I sent it. I am still in need of suggestions. I am currently running Leopard on my eMac, and I have been told to run hardware checkup from the original startup disk. I have been experiencing a variety of nagging irritations with regard to video playback of Youtube files recently. Thinking it was Flash, I switched to HTML5 but the recent stuttering still persists. Cable company claims to be giving me a higher speed than my Broadband Reports tests show and that may indeed be the problem, but you can't fight city hall! Their techs say their test is correct, I am receiving over 8 meg down and since that should be able to take anything Youtube could send they point the finger at my graphics card and that is where the hardware test comes in. When I inserted my original Panther disk, restarted, and depressed the option key, eventually what looked like a boot loader appeared. It showed me several locations of bootable files on various drives. --- I have an old Tiger on the internal 80Gig, the current Leopard on an external 250Gig firewire, and now Panther and hardware checkup icons from the cd in my drive bay. They show up in a line on an otherwise basically grey blank screen. At this point I can find no way to indicate which of these devices I wish to select. I have tried the arrow keys, clicking the mouse which has turned into a clock face rather than the usual arrow, pushed the tab key, and I have also tried including the option key and most other keys and nothing seems to allow a selection. The big indicating arrow under you selection never appears. Is the fact that the mouse arrow is a clock face telling me the system is locked in a loop and not ready to offer me a selection choice? I have had it grind with the watch for over 10 minutes without ever returning to the arrow. (I can't believe it should take that long to settle down.) Should I take it that since I think there might be a hardware problem with my eMac, that this difficulty confirms that there is a mechanical problem? Or am I missing something and it is user error causing the difficulty? Ideas would be appreciated. Don Wakefield DTPetc! (DeskTop Productions et cetera!) Ballwin, Missouri, USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
Uh. Yes. You are right, Tina. I bought the Mac Pro last summer, and bumped to 12GB, 3 x 4GB sticks. I was told to remove the 4th small stick to improve performance. On Oct 15, 11:51 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/10/15 21:11, Brielle Bruns wrote: Sticks of ram are done in pairs if they use interleaving to improve performance. There's no such thing as triple or quad (unless its something non-standard and obscure). 4 sticks is basically 2 banks of 2 interleaved sticks. My un-educated internet research revealed that three identical sticks ran faster than two, and four sticks ran inbetween two three stick speeds. Don't remember the url of the test unfortunately. A Google search for triple channel ram returns over 1,000,000 results that seem to say that there is such a thing as triple channel memory, I believe that is what is indicated by the DDR3 designation. http://www.google.com/search?ie=utf8oe=utf8q=triple+channel+ram Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Onboard graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Pesky hardware problem
On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Don Wakefield wrote: I am currently running Leopard on my eMac, Leopard is about 15-20% slower on PPC Macs than Tiger according to benchmark tests like xBench or GeekBench (you can check either archive of test results to see actual numbers). and I have been told to run hardware checkup from the original startup disk. Good idea. I have been experiencing a variety of nagging irritations with regard to video playback of Youtube files recently. Thinking it was Flash, I switched to HTML5 but the recent stuttering still persists. Cable company claims to be giving me a higher speed than my Broadband Reports tests show and that may indeed be the problem, but you can't fight city hall! Their techs say their test is correct, I am receiving over 8 meg down and since that should be able to take anything Youtube could send they point the finger at my graphics card and that is where the hardware test comes in. Your eMac may be too slow with Leopard, and booting from an external Firewire HD will be slightly slower than an internal HD, but not a lot. If you have time, transferring the HD or reverting back to using the internal HD might help a tiny bit. When I inserted my original Panther disk, restarted, and depressed the option key, eventually what looked like a boot loader appeared. It showed me several locations of bootable files on various drives. --- I have an old Tiger on the internal 80Gig, the current Leopard on an external 250Gig firewire, and now Panther and hardware checkup icons from the cd in my drive bay. They show up in a line on an otherwise basically grey blank screen. This is normal behavior. At this point I can find no way to indicate which of these devices I wish to select. I have tried the arrow keys, clicking the mouse which has turned into a clock face rather than the usual arrow, pushed the tab key, and I have also tried including the option key and most other keys and nothing seems to allow a selection. The big indicating arrow under you selection never appears. Sounds like a bad keyboard perhaps? Another possibility is corrupted PRAM or NVRAM. Zap the PRAM by holding the Cmd-Opt-P-R keys at startup for several chimes and then you should reset the NVRAM by booting holding the Cmd-Opt-O-F keys, and then at the Open Firmware prompt, type: set-defaultsReturn reset-allReturn where Return means hit the Return key. It should respond ok to the 1st command, and restart at the 2nd command. Is the fact that the mouse arrow is a clock face telling me the system is locked in a loop and not ready to offer me a selection choice? I have had it grind with the watch for over 10 minutes without ever returning to the arrow. (I can't believe it should take that long to settle down.) Again, reset the NVRAM and see if that helps. If not, try another keyboard. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Highest OSX a G4 sawtooth can run?
-- Original message -- Subject: Highest OSX a G4 sawtooth can run? Date:Monday, 17. October 2011 From:Eric Hall jester_...@yahoo.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I'm been thinking about making the change to Leopard as well. I have a 1ghz upgrade processor and 1 gig of ram in my Sawtooth. I also put in a GeForce FX 5200. Core Image and Quartz extreme supported. Worth taking the plunge? Me personally? I'd go for it. Your hardware seems good enough. It will be like Tiger, only with an interface that is even more fun to use. Like going from Jaguar to Panther… (well, a little less obvious, but all the little details and enhancements give that impression…) Leopard will use slightly more memory than Tiger, but if you're not touching the edge right now with Tiger you should be safe. Otherwise I recommend getting at least 1.5 GB for Leopard. The Sawtooth (i.e. Power Mac G4 “AGP Graphics”) should be able to hold up to 2 GB (4×512 MB) of PC100 memory. Note that Leopard is a little slower than Tiger. This can be confirmed with benchmarks such as Geekbench. Also note that 1 GHz is almost the lower limit. But it will still be okay, aslong as the graphics card supports QE and CI, which the GeForce FX5200 does. Really, the only BIG loss is Classic. Depending on your habits this may not be a loss at all. Have you already purchased Leopard? Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Highest OSX a G4 sawtooth can run?
On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:40 AM, Eric Hall wrote: I'm been thinking about making the change to Leopard as well. I have a 1ghz upgrade processor and 1 gig of ram in my Sawtooth. I also put in a GeForce FX 5200. Core Image and Quartz extreme supported. Worth taking the plunge? Definitely. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Pesky hardware problem
At 8:00 AM -0700 10/17/2011, Don Wakefield wrote: Sorry if this is a repeat message to some of you, but I never saw it post after I sent it. me either. sigh. Leopard on my eMac processor speed, memory? experiencing a variety of nagging irritations with regard to video playback of Youtube files recently. Thinking it was Flash, I switched to HTML5 but the recent stuttering still persists. Some videos on youtube can be difficult to view, depending on the codec involved, SD vs HD, etc. Cable company claims to be giving me a higher speed than my Broadband Reports tests show and that may indeed be the problem, but you can't fight city hall! Their techs say their test is correct, I am receiving over 8 meg down and since that should be able to take anything Youtube could send they point the finger at my graphics card and that is where the hardware test comes in. 8 Mbps downstream should be fine. What's your supposed cap, down up? What's your setup - direct wired to a cable modem? or wired to a NAT router? or wifi? What speeds do speakeasy's test report? Show me a traceroute to www.youtube.com. When I inserted my original Panther disk, restarted, and depressed the option key, eventually what looked like a boot loader appeared. It showed me several locations of bootable files on various drives. --- I have an old Tiger on the internal 80Gig, the current Leopard on an external 250Gig firewire, and now Panther and hardware checkup icons from the cd in my drive bay. They show up in a line on an otherwise basically grey blank screen. At this point I can find no way to indicate which of these devices I wish to select. I have tried the arrow keys, clicking the mouse which has turned into a clock face rather than the usual arrow The bootable volume search isn't done yet. When it finishes, the mouse cursor will turn into an arrow. ready to offer me a selection choice? I have had it grind with the watch for over 10 minutes without ever returning to the arrow. (I can't believe it should take that long to settle down.) Unplug all external devices, except keyboard and mouse. Then redo. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Pesky hardware problem
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Pesky hardware problem Date:Monday, 17. October 2011 From:Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Leopard is about 15-20% slower on PPC Macs than Tiger according to benchmark tests like xBench or GeekBench (you can check either archive of test results to see actual numbers). Well, that's a little much, isn't it? Using Geekbench 2.1.4, my G4 “AGP Graphics” Dual-450 MHz has 477 points with Tiger vs. 475 points with Leopard. That is a 0.5% loss in speed. Nowhere near 15-20%. With Geekbench 2.1.13, my G4 Cube single 450 MHz has 304 points with Tiger vs. 301 points with Leopard. That is a 1% loss in speed. An overall of up to 2% at max also reflects my experience. All other is only a “felt” slowdown due to a graphics card without Core Image support or too less memory. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run?
Great details in your response. Much thanks. (snip) And all that is why IMHO Leopard isn't the ideal OS on PowerPCs. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run? Date:Saturday, 15. October 2011 From:peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com If you are running a Hackintosh, … Hackintoshes are sooo much work. It's much easier to have it “just work”, instead of to have it “make work”. Unless, “the journey is the reward.” (German: „Der Weg ist das Ziel.“) Did it a couple of times with my Familiy Edition of Leopard, but really, on an Intel/AMD-Hackintosh you'd want Snow Leopard. And I don't have a Snow Leopard license, so I won't use it. One of my Laptops that had Leopard running really fabulously (an HP) broke down after less then 1½ years. That was disillusioning. I'm not in the mood to go though a Hackintosh installation once again. And I don't know if my present hardware supports Mac OS X almost as well out-of-the-box as this HP laptop did (while it still worked). Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
Uh. Yes. You are right, Tina. I bought the Mac Pro last summer, and bumped to 12GB, 3 x 4GB sticks. I was told to remove the 4th small stick to improve performance. My un-educated internet research revealed that three identical sticks ran faster than two, and four sticks ran inbetween two three stick speeds. Don't remember the url of the test unfortunately. A Google search for triple channel ram returns over 1,000,000 results that seem to say that there is such a thing as triple channel memory, I believe that is what is indicated by the DDR3 designation. Triple-channel RAM has been available in Hacks for years and years. The X58 series of mobos is perhaps a representative example. This ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128456 ... is Gigabyte's offering (one of them, anyway), and it supports two sets of three DDR3 RAM sticks for a total of 24 GB. Of course, an LGA 1366 processor is required. Best performance is with three or six RAM sticks. Performance suffers with one, two, four or five sticks. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GMail phasing out basic view?
It may not be as bad as I thought. One top contributor on the forum answered: GMail recently ceased support for several older versions of all three mainstream browsers - IE, Firefox and Chrome. Consequently many people who do not WANT to use Basic HTML are being directed there because their browser versions can't cope with Standard View. So the usual link in the top bar which allows you to (a) return to Standard View or (b) set Basic as default is currently replaced by the advice to upgrade your browser. I see this in my own Basic HTML view which I use a lot for testing - I probably switch back and forth several times a week.. Once this browser deprecation is no longer new and is over and done with, and everyone knows about it, and understands why they suddenly are in Basic HTML view instead of their preferred Standard view, the top bar message will almost certainly revert to normal. It always has in the past. In the meantime, use the link I gave right back at the top to get to your Basic HTML view and make a new bookmark/shortcut/favourite to use until the usual top bar returns. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GMail phasing out basic view?
At 6:48 AM -0700 10/17/2011, Geke wrote: You know that with Google Mail, you can choose basic view (instead of the standard view which loads slower and has more features). Just now I discovered that I can't set this basic view as the default, as I could in the past. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=15049 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6557 You can probably tweak your browser's User Agent to make GMail kick you to the basic vers if you really need... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
My computer has a strange smell
You guys will think I'm nuts but here goes. My Quicksilver 2002 has a smell coming out of it. It doesn't smell like it's burning but it's definitely not normal. I've cleaned it with canned air and vacuumed it and I'm using it now. The smell is there but I can't find anything hot, I don't see any smoke. It's coming straight out of the exhaust fan. Right now I'm running it with the case open so I can keep an eye on it. Any ideas as to what it could be? The air intake fan appears not to be running, but since I run the machine with the case slightly open that shouldn't be a problem. Any advice would be appreciated! Cheryl Harris Tehachapi, CA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: My computer has a strange smell
What is the PSU and where is it located in the machine? I'm not a techie, sorry! On Oct 17, 5:08 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: You guys will think I'm nuts but here goes. My Quicksilver 2002 has a smell coming out of it. It doesn't smell like it's burning but it's definitely not normal. I've cleaned it with canned air and vacuumed it and I'm using it now. The smell is there but I can't find anything hot, I don't see any smoke. It's coming straight out of the exhaust fan. Right now I'm running it with the case open so I can keep an eye on it. Any ideas as to what it could be? Bad caps in the PSU. Alas, these are not easily replaced. Replacements, when available, are usually rated 85 C, whereas the originals are usually rated 105 C. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: My computer has a strange smell
Ok I know what a PSU is now. Is that smell coming out of there toxic? On Oct 17, 5:21 pm, cheryl chelyh...@gmail.com wrote: What is the PSU and where is it located in the machine? I'm not a techie, sorry! On Oct 17, 5:08 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: You guys will think I'm nuts but here goes. My Quicksilver 2002 has a smell coming out of it. It doesn't smell like it's burning but it's definitely not normal. I've cleaned it with canned air and vacuumed it and I'm using it now. The smell is there but I can't find anything hot, I don't see any smoke. It's coming straight out of the exhaust fan. Right now I'm running it with the case open so I can keep an eye on it. Any ideas as to what it could be? Bad caps in the PSU. Alas, these are not easily replaced. Replacements, when available, are usually rated 85 C, whereas the originals are usually rated 105 C. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: My computer has a strange smell
On Oct 17, 5:08 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: You guys will think I'm nuts but here goes. My Quicksilver 2002 has a smell coming out of it. It doesn't smell like it's burning but it's definitely not normal. I've cleaned it with canned air and vacuumed it and I'm using it now. The smell is there but I can't find anything hot, I don't see any smoke. It's coming straight out of the exhaust fan. Right now I'm running it with the case open so I can keep an eye on it. Any ideas as to what it could be? Bad caps in the PSU. Alas, these are not easily replaced. Replacements, when available, are usually rated 85 C, whereas the originals are usually rated 105 C. On Oct 17, 2011, at 5:21 PM, cheryl wrote: What is the PSU and where is it located in the machine? I'm not a techie, sorry! (Rearranging posts so they avoid the confusion caused by top-posting a bottom-post earlier reply.) The PSU (power supply unit) in your Quicksilver is the big rectangular box with wires coming out of the front and a fan in the back that sits in the top rear corner of the minitower. While it may be possible that bad caps (bad capacitors) may be the culprits, it's more likely that one or more components other than capacitors have overheated and melted insulation. It takes a very long time for the odor to dissipate, even after you've irrigated your nasal passages and even after days or weeks have passed. That's why an up-close sniff test is a very good way to detect overheated electronics even months after the overheat incident. The odor you're smelling indicates something has gone wrong with your power supply internally or in some of the wiring that comes out of it. It may be nothing more than a wire whose plastic insulation has shorted to the case. Or it may be something more serious. Running your QS with the door open, however, almost guarantees overheating and possible damage to the processor, Why? Because the case cooling fan and airflow inside the case are designed to extract heat from the components inside and exhaust it out the rear of the case. You can easily cause the processor to melt down by leaving the door down and thus crippling the efficiency of the heatsink by relying solely on convection cooling and the tiny little cpu cooling fan. If it were my QS I'd start looking for a new PSU. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: My computer has a strange smell
On Oct 17, 2011, at 5:01 PM, cheryl wrote: You guys will think I'm nuts but here goes. My Quicksilver 2002 has a smell coming out of it. It doesn't smell like it's burning but it's definitely not normal. I've cleaned it with canned air and vacuumed it and I'm using it now. The smell is there but I can't find anything hot, I don't see any smoke. It's coming straight out of the exhaust fan. Right now I'm running it with the case open so I can keep an eye on it. Any ideas as to what it could be? The air intake fan appears not to be running, but since I run the machine with the case slightly open that shouldn't be a problem. Any advice would be appreciated! Cheryl Harris Tehachapi, CA If you run them with the case open you over work the fans. look close for some foreign material. Dead mouse? There's a lot of crannies in those cases on the bottom ends is room for a lot of junk. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Can I talk about software on my G4?
Like others? (my post never made it to the G3-G5 list as far as I know ... ) Has anyone used Dropbox: (www.dropbox.com) Does it open up a channel for hackers under OS X 10.5.8? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: My computer has a strange smell
It is like a melted plastic smell. I had an issue this summer where the machine would overheat and shut itself off (no AC in my apartment, it gets up to almost 90 in here during a hot summer day) so a friend suggested opening the case just a tiny bit to let extra heat escape. The CPU fan is not running. It's moving but it's stuck. But that is not where the smell is coming from. It's coming from the PSU. I got this computer used from someone on the LEM swap list and it has served me well for several years, but maybe it's time to replace it with something a bit newer. On Oct 17, 5:25 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: PSU is the Power Supply. I've heard that the Quicksilvers had issues with the power supplies. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: My computer has a strange smell
If anyone wants to find a good capacitor. I recommend this website. I bought the Nichicon brand produces lots of hi temp cap. select Aluminum capacitor and start to drill down by its capacitance, voltage then select the life time @ temp. Example for the life time @ temp, let's say 1000 hr @105 degree Celsius means it can operate for that long but it will last longer than 1000 hr if lower temp. http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?lang=ensite=uskeywords= I changed two caps on my G4 daughterboard already but not because of its breaking down however. : D On Oct 17, 8:01 pm, cheryl chelyh...@gmail.com wrote: You guys will think I'm nuts but here goes. My Quicksilver 2002 has a smell coming out of it. It doesn't smell like it's burning but it's definitely not normal. I've cleaned it with canned air and vacuumed it and I'm using it now. The smell is there but I can't find anything hot, I don't see any smoke. It's coming straight out of the exhaust fan. Right now I'm running it with the case open so I can keep an eye on it. Any ideas as to what it could be? The air intake fan appears not to be running, but since I run the machine with the case slightly open that shouldn't be a problem. Any advice would be appreciated! Cheryl Harris Tehachapi, CA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I talk about software on my G4?
At 9:26 PM -0400 10/17/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: Like others? (my post never made it to the G3-G5 list as far as I know ... ) yea, not that I see either. Has anyone used Dropbox: (www.dropbox.com) Does it open up a channel for hackers under OS X 10.5.8? Dropbox is a great app! Wonderful as a cloud backup/sync solution, and great for sharing files with friends. Works on Tiger thru Lion, iOS, Windows, etc. Me and mine use it every day! It's even replaced sneakernet here at home (mac vs pc issues)! No, it doesn't open a channel for hackers. I strongly recommend using the latest release candidate of the 1.2.x line. The full release should be shortly... A beta of the 1.3 line has been started, but it's so new the bits are still damp. (shameless plug, my referral link) https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTYxMDMyNjk And the latest release candidate is available here: http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=45949replies=35 - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
