DVI vs ADC
Hi, I have the option on a monitor with DVI-I connection to use with my Quicksilver G4. Will the monitor DV-I cable fit into the ADC socket and work safely/ properly? Tia Ged -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVI vs ADC
On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:08 AM, geraldcornish wrote: Will the monitor DVI-I cable fit into the ADC socket and work safely/ properly? No. They're not even the same shape, the plugs won't fit. You can only use an ADC monitor with an ADC video card. You need to get a DVI video card to use the DVI monitor. You can flash cheap PC video cards to Mac ROM using ROMs from: http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads There's an adapter cable: http://www.mac-pro.com/ADC-to-DVI-Adapter-Cable but it costs more than a video card, so it's a waste of money and not cost effective for such an old Mac. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
DVI vs ADC
OK folks, I've found my answer - DVI-ADC adapters on ebay. Cheers Begin forwarded message: From: geraldcornish geraldcorn...@gmail.com Date: 30 Aug 2012 10:08:03 BDT To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: DVI vs ADC Hi, I have the option on a monitor with DVI-I connection to use with my Quicksilver G4. Will the monitor DV-I cable fit into the ADC socket and work safely/ properly? Tia Ged -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVI vs ADC
Kris, thanks for all the useful info. I think I will pass the option for now. I'm looking for a larger monitor, maybe get a VGA monitor as I have a 17 Apple monitor on the ADC port. On 30 /08/ 2012, at 10:51, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:08 AM, geraldcornish wrote: Will the monitor DVI-I cable fit into the ADC socket and work safely/properly? No. They're not even the same shape, the plugs won't fit. You can only use an ADC monitor with an ADC video card. You need to get a DVI video card to use the DVI monitor. You can flash cheap PC video cards to Mac ROM using ROMs from: http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads There's an adapter cable: http://www.mac-pro.com/ADC-to-DVI-Adapter-Cable but it costs more than a video card, so it's a waste of money and not cost effective for such an old Mac. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!
It´s not technical and it´s ugly. There are many different, more constructive, more creative - and more helpful - things one can do than create fashion to image geekiness. For $600 I´d rather buy a Mac Mini. It´s far more useful than furniture that is dangerous to pets and little children. Thanks for the link, Dan. Got my blood moving faster! On 08/24/2012 11:58 AM, Dan wrote: http://www.techhive.com/article/2000340/the-classy-coffee-table-gives-old-power-mac-g4s-a-new-lease-on-life.html :) - Dan. Jon. Fashion, the attempt to image the ¨zeitgeist¨, is ephemeral at best. Few things are more disgusting than the attempt to create ¨fashion¨ from things that we work with every day. True geeks tend to ignore fashion because we are interested in practical things, things that serve us and those around us. We have a mechanical, practical, engineering desire to make things work faster and more efficiently and to make them easier to use. Serious, nerdy things are the antithesis of designing for vanity. How much fashion can you see in hospital operating rooms, in dentists´ chairs or in auto repair bays? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!
I'm using one to set my flat screen monitor on to use as a TV. Of course I have half a dozen other G4's that are busy collecting dust... -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Has this ever happened to you?
I am certain the crack in the inner ring would effect the disk's structural integrity but at normal speeds it would be fine. When you tried to backup the disk Toast spun the drive up to maximum speed (something like 52x) and the disk exploded because it wasn't strong enough to spin at that speed any more. In future I would recommend backing up cracked disks at 1x or as slow as you're willing to wait. Tom On 28/08/12 12:29 PM, smac0031 wrote: I was playing my favorite game, Master of Orion II. Then I quit the game and ejected the CD and noticed there was a crack in the inner ring. So I decided it might be a good time to make a backup copy of this CD, if it were possible. I tried Disk Utility first and thought it might be better to use Toast 9.0. I started running the program and suddenly the plastic CD button goober shot out of the mirror door. I got a cryptic disc has read errors message. I tried ejecting the disc both using eject button on the keyboard and the eject button on the front of the drive, which by the way is a Samsung from other world. None of this worked. The drive wouldn't open. I tried a paper clip and that wouldn't work. I tried rebooting the machine and that didn't help. I gave up and shut the machine down and pried the drive open. The CD was in chunks. It literally exploded in the the drive. I have probably 40% of it out of the drive in six pieces. I've never heard of this happening. I loved that game. This sucks. Now I don't have any excuses to switch over to my G5, no even lame ones. Mark Murphy -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 monitor extensions
I want to have the G5 moved a ways away from where I want to have the 2 monitors for work. Am I looking at DVI-D dual link cables for this? What is the limit for length? I can see wanting to run these around the corner involving 25' or more if that's workable. John V -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!
Neat idea but I think that it would be an unbefitting end to my Gigabit G4 that served me flawlessly for ten years. JT On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Dan wrote: http://www.techhive.com/article/2000340/the-classy-coffee-table-gives-old-power-mac-g4s-a-new-lease-on-life.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Has this ever happened to you?
Just a suggestion: buy the best quality CDs or DVDs you can afford and then back up the disk. For games or other optical media used often, === Use The Backup! === Store the original away where it´s dark. Read up on the lifetime expectancy (mtbf) of CDs and DVDs. Defend yourself against crap sales and manufacturing. Become the real-world tech-warrior equivalent of your game avatar. BTW, with a little research online, you can replace and even upgrade an optical drive for an economical price. If you are mechanically inclined. The only disadvantage is they´re a little noisey when pushing open a G5 door. No Fear. Jon On 08/28/2012 09:00 PM, smac0031 wrote: I got the DVD drive out of my computer. I gave up holding the whole computer at various angles and shaking it to get the cd-rom out of it. Roughly, a little over half of the cd-rom has fallen out of it. The mechanism in the DVD drive seems to be jammed and only little bits fall out now. I am seriously considering using my ship vac next, although the last time I used my shop vac on my computer I had to buy a new keyboard. I think this drive is most likely destroyed. The thing that impressed me the most is when it came apart the clip on drive door popped open and shot out the the center button bar and it flew half way across the room If you will recall, G4's have a door covering their optical drives and the button is in the center of the door and there is a plastic bar that extends over to the right where the actual button is on a CD drive to open it. It might look nice, but it's lame, if you ask me. This bar shot out of my computer. Disk read error. Maybe Apple's later system software has a very high level of copy protection that results the disk blowing up and jamming up your optical drive. That was my most favorite game ever. I guess I should quit screwing around. Mark Murphy -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!
Howdy Jonas Please excuse the butt-in I am typing this on a G4. My heart sank when I read the deal about the coffee table. I find the G4 Quite reliable after I jacked it up a little. Do you want to get rid of the G4s you have?? I am retired and kinda enjoy the layed back speed of this G4... lol Let me know and regards , Leo On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I'm using one to set my flat screen monitor on to use as a TV. Of course I have half a dozen other G4's that are busy collecting dust... -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!
Neat idea but I think that it would be an unbefitting end to my Gigabit G4 that served me flawlessly for ten years. The proper coffee table Mac is an Apple Network Server. Put a plate of glass on top of it. Presto, table. And you don't even need to drill the case. For bonus points, connect a console to it and put it on the table. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Po-Ching Lives! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VLC vs Leopard
At 10:35 PM -0700 8/29/12, Jonas Lopez wrote: There must have been some change with VLC Yes, as it turns out. Between the 1.x and 2.x series, they switched to using a major new revision of libavcodec -- which has some severe problems. The fix, for now, is to revert to VLC 1.1.9 http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/1.1.9/macosx/ as we used to get it to work bu now only a black screen in 10.4.11 got any ideas Well, the above will only help on Leopard or newer. For Tiger, you're stuck with 0.9.10. Have you tried reinstalling the app, and trashing its prefs? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 monitor extensions
On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:51 PM, JohnV wrote: I want to have the G5 moved a ways away from where I want to have the 2 monitors for work. Am I looking at DVI-D dual link cables for this? What is the limit for length? I can see wanting to run these around the corner involving 25' or more if that's workable. It is with a signal booster. http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html#Page04 Check out Monoprice.com, they sell both the cables and boosters at good prices. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list