DVI vs ADC

2012-08-30 Thread geraldcornish

Hi,

I have the option on a monitor with DVI-I connection to use with my  
Quicksilver G4.


Will the monitor DV-I cable fit into the ADC socket and work safely/ 
properly?


Tia

Ged

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Re: DVI vs ADC

2012-08-30 Thread Kris Tilford

On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:08 AM, geraldcornish wrote:

Will the monitor DVI-I cable fit into the ADC socket and work safely/ 
properly?


No. They're not even the same shape, the plugs won't fit.

You can only use an ADC monitor with an ADC video card.

You need to get a DVI video card to use the DVI monitor.

You can flash cheap PC video cards to Mac ROM using ROMs from:

http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads

There's an adapter cable:

http://www.mac-pro.com/ADC-to-DVI-Adapter-Cable

but it costs more than a video card, so it's a waste of money and not  
cost effective for such an old Mac.


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DVI vs ADC

2012-08-30 Thread geraldcornish

OK folks, I've found my answer - DVI-ADC adapters on ebay.

Cheers


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Subject: DVI vs ADC

Hi,

I have the option on a monitor with DVI-I connection to use with my  
Quicksilver G4.


Will the monitor DV-I cable fit into the ADC socket and work safely/ 
properly?


Tia

Ged


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Re: DVI vs ADC

2012-08-30 Thread geraldcornish

Kris, thanks for all the useful info.

I think I will pass the option for now.

I'm looking for a larger monitor, maybe get a VGA monitor as I have a  
17 Apple monitor on the ADC port.



On 30 /08/ 2012, at 10:51, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:08 AM, geraldcornish wrote:

Will the monitor DVI-I cable fit into the ADC socket and work  
safely/properly?


No. They're not even the same shape, the plugs won't fit.

You can only use an ADC monitor with an ADC video card.

You need to get a DVI video card to use the DVI monitor.

You can flash cheap PC video cards to Mac ROM using ROMs from:

http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads

There's an adapter cable:

http://www.mac-pro.com/ADC-to-DVI-Adapter-Cable

but it costs more than a video card, so it's a waste of money and  
not cost effective for such an old Mac.


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Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!

2012-08-30 Thread Jon Gump

It´s not technical and it´s ugly.

There are many different, more constructive, more creative - and more 
helpful - things one can do than  create fashion to image geekiness.  
For $600 I´d rather buy a Mac Mini. It´s far more useful than furniture 
that is dangerous to pets and little children.


Thanks for the link, Dan.  Got my blood moving faster!

On 08/24/2012 11:58 AM, Dan wrote:
http://www.techhive.com/article/2000340/the-classy-coffee-table-gives-old-power-mac-g4s-a-new-lease-on-life.html 



:)

- Dan.

Jon.

Fashion, the attempt to image the ¨zeitgeist¨, is ephemeral at best.  
Few things are more disgusting than the attempt to create ¨fashion¨ from 
things  that we work with every day.  True geeks tend to ignore fashion 
because we are interested in practical things, things that serve us and 
those around us.  We have a mechanical, practical, engineering desire to 
make things work faster and more efficiently and to make them easier to 
use.  Serious, nerdy things are the antithesis of designing for 
vanity.   How much fashion can you see in hospital operating rooms, in 
dentists´ chairs or in auto repair bays?


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Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!

2012-08-30 Thread Jonas Ulrich
I'm using one to set my flat screen monitor on to use as a TV. Of course I
have half a dozen other G4's that are busy collecting dust...

-Jonas

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Re: Has this ever happened to you?

2012-08-30 Thread Thomas Davies
I am certain the crack in the inner ring would effect the disk's 
structural integrity but at normal speeds it would be fine. When you 
tried to backup the disk Toast spun the drive up to maximum speed 
(something like 52x) and the disk exploded because it wasn't strong 
enough to spin at that speed any more.


In future I would recommend backing up cracked disks at 1x or as slow as 
you're willing to wait.



Tom


On 28/08/12 12:29 PM, smac0031 wrote:

I was playing my favorite game, Master of Orion II. Then I quit the
game and ejected the CD and noticed there was a crack in the inner
ring. So I decided it might be a good time to make a backup copy of
this CD, if it were possible. I tried Disk Utility first and thought
it might be better to use Toast 9.0. I started running the program and
suddenly the plastic CD button goober shot out of the mirror door. I
got a cryptic disc has read errors message. I tried ejecting the
disc both using eject button on the keyboard and the eject button on
the front of the drive, which by the way is a Samsung from other
world.

None of this worked. The drive wouldn't open. I tried a paper clip and
that wouldn't work. I tried rebooting the machine and that didn't
help. I gave up and shut the machine down and pried the drive open.

The CD was in chunks. It literally exploded in the the drive. I have
probably 40% of it out of the drive in six pieces.

I've never heard of this happening. I loved that game. This sucks.

Now I don't have any excuses to switch over to my G5, no even lame
ones.

Mark Murphy



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G5 monitor extensions

2012-08-30 Thread JohnV
I want to have the G5 moved a ways away from where I want to have the  
2 monitors for work.

Am I looking at DVI-D dual link cables for this?
What is the limit for length?
 I can see wanting to run these around the corner involving 25' or  
more if that's workable.


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Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!

2012-08-30 Thread James E. Therrault
Neat idea but I think that it would be an unbefitting end to my Gigabit G4 that 
served me flawlessly for ten years.

JT


 
On Aug 24, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Dan wrote:

 http://www.techhive.com/article/2000340/the-classy-coffee-table-gives-old-power-mac-g4s-a-new-lease-on-life.html

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Re: Has this ever happened to you?

2012-08-30 Thread Jon Gump

Just a suggestion: buy the best quality CDs or DVDs you
can afford and then back up the disk.

For games or other optical media used often,
===
Use The Backup!
===

Store the original away where it´s dark.
Read up on the lifetime expectancy (mtbf) of CDs and DVDs.
Defend yourself against crap sales and manufacturing.
Become the real-world tech-warrior equivalent of your game avatar.

BTW, with a little research online, you can replace and even upgrade
an optical drive for an economical price.  If you are mechanically inclined.
The only disadvantage is they´re a little noisey when pushing open a G5 
door.


No Fear.
Jon


On 08/28/2012 09:00 PM, smac0031 wrote:

I got the DVD drive out of my computer. I gave up holding the whole
computer at various angles and shaking it to get the cd-rom out of it.

Roughly, a little over half of the cd-rom has fallen out of it. The
mechanism in the DVD drive seems to be jammed and only little bits fall out
now.
I am seriously considering using my ship vac next, although the last time I
used my shop vac on my computer I had to buy a new keyboard.

I think this drive is most likely destroyed.

The thing that impressed me the most is when it came apart the clip on
drive door popped open and shot out the the center button bar and it flew
half way across the room
If you will recall, G4's have a door covering their optical drives and the
button is in the center of the door and there is a plastic bar that extends
over to the right where the actual button is on a CD drive to open it.
It might look nice, but it's lame, if you ask me. This bar shot out of my
computer. Disk read error. Maybe Apple's later system software has a very
high level of copy protection that results the disk blowing up and jamming
up your optical drive.

That was my most favorite game ever. I guess I should quit screwing around.

Mark Murphy



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Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!

2012-08-30 Thread Leo E. Sancho

Howdy Jonas
Please excuse the butt-in I am typing this on a G4. My heart sank  
when I read the deal about the coffee table. I find the G4 Quite  
reliable after I jacked it up a little. Do you want to get rid of the  
G4s you have??  I am retired and kinda enjoy the layed back speed of  
this G4... lol Let me know and regards , Leo

On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

I'm using one to set my flat screen monitor on to use as a TV. Of  
course I have half a dozen other G4's that are busy collecting dust...


-Jonas

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Re: Power Mac Coffee Table!

2012-08-30 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 Neat idea but I think that it would be an unbefitting end to my Gigabit G4
 that served me flawlessly for ten years.

The proper coffee table Mac is an Apple Network Server. Put a plate of
glass on top of it. Presto, table. And you don't even need to drill the case.

For bonus points, connect a console to it and put it on the table.

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Re: VLC vs Leopard

2012-08-30 Thread Dan

At 10:35 PM -0700 8/29/12, Jonas Lopez wrote:

There must have been some change with VLC


Yes, as it turns out.  Between the 1.x and 2.x series, they switched 
to using a major new revision of libavcodec -- which has some severe 
problems.


The fix, for now, is to revert to VLC 1.1.9
http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/1.1.9/macosx/

as we used to get it to work bu now only a black screen in 10.4.11 
got any ideas


Well, the above will only help on Leopard or newer.  For Tiger, 
you're stuck with 0.9.10.


Have you tried reinstalling the app, and trashing its prefs?

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Re: G5 monitor extensions

2012-08-30 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:51 PM, JohnV wrote:

 I want to have the G5 moved a ways away from where I want to have the 2 
 monitors for work.
 Am I looking at DVI-D dual link cables for this?
 What is the limit for length?
 I can see wanting to run these around the corner involving 25' or more if 
 that's workable.

It is with a signal booster.

http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html#Page04

Check out Monoprice.com, they sell both the cables and boosters at good prices.

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