Re: Spillage on keyboard - broken beyond repair?
On 17/01/2013 02:44, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: The aluminum keyboards are difficult to disassemble; they're completely glued together. It's possible to remove the keys and springs to enable a more thorough clean - here's a charming Apple ichild with a demo... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvQSj04oyeI tedious though.. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Spillage on keyboard - broken beyond repair?
The more modern the (Apple) keyboard, the harder it is to strip it down to clean it. If you have a glued together one, they want you to buy a new one and be more careful in future! That solution will certainly work. But in the real world, we grudge paying £50 or so for a keyboard. There are look-alike USB keyboards out there which will do the job and the Windoze key seems to map as an Apple key, although from memory non-Apple keyboards are not good for those special commands that you want to use in the boot sequence for single user mode and suchlike. Other group members can probably give informed knowledge about this. In the past it has been suggested that keyboards will generally survive careful treatment in a dishwasher, and this will often fix them. Somehow I don't think this technique would work that well on Andreas' model. I have one of those domestic small domestic steam cleaners, that puts out a jet of pressurised steam.I'm SPECULATING that this might be good for older keyboards, but the temperature might be too much for the components! Any of the group got any experience trying this? IN THEORY I reckon a jet of steam would give a very thorough flush, to remove dust and stickiness. The problem with sealed keyboards would be ensuring adequate drainage of the gunk and then ultimately, the clean condensed water, since you want to REMOVE the contaminants, rather than just MOVE-ing them around inside the keyboard. Perhaps an airline would help to remove bulk of undrained water before drying in a warm place for a couple of weeks? Possibly a discreetly and VERY CAREFULLY DRILLED drain hole underneath!? I don't own this style of keyboard, so I am not* au fait *as to this possibility! Thing is, it's probably borked anyway, so a reasonable subject for research! I wouldn't fancy the job of removing all keys, etc - (clear clean bench and floor, with retaining bunds, and a scan or photocopy of the keyboard placed on a tray before putting everything removed in its place on the paper might save anguish!) But a somewhat Sisyphean task to try one's patience to the utmost, and you'd have to test it very thoroughly before putting it back together, IN CASE you didn't get one vital key fixed. Clingfilm wrapping a keyboard is a quick-and-dirty way of protecting one if you HAVE to do something in a hostile environment! Good luck. Dan. On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:42:55 PM UTC, Mac User #330250 wrote: Hi! Yesterday I spilled some juice all over my Apple Keyboard. It is the Aluminium USB version. http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB110LL/B/apple-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Keyboard#Apple_Keyboard_.28109_keys.29 It is model A1243 introduced in 2007; System requirements were back than Mac OS X 10.4.something; in the store it’s now 10.6.something… After unplugging it I washed it using water, but the juice was in so deep that I feared I won’t get it all out without enought water, so I put it under running water. I inverted it and allowed it to try for about 20 hours. I later found that 24 to 48 hours would have been better: http://guides.macrumors.com/Spilled_Liquid_On_My_Mac_or_Keyboard The good news: the built-in USB hub works. The bad news: the keyboard doesn’t. Not one keypress was recognized by the system. I tried to find a solution on YouTube, like how to open it, but I cannot find a good video that would help. Most videos deal with how to clean the individual keys rather than how to open it. Did I plug it in too early? Could it really be broken beyond repair? All suggestions are wellcome… Thanks, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SCSI issue has arisen
On Jan 16, 12:28 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 15, 2013, at 7:34 PM, t...@prismnet.com wrote: Do you remember where you got them? Part number? I would dearly like to get some $5 SCA=50 pin adapters with termination. There are a bunch of 2.5 SCSI drives available now in the ~$10 range would would make nice little drives in older machines, if affordable adapters with termination could be found. I just picked some of the cheap ones off ebay from Hong Kong. A little longer shipping, but I see some right now for $2.75 each shipped. So if you are not in a hurry (I seem to remember them taking about 10 days to get to me), they are a pretty good deal. Just search for SCA 50 pin and that will get them. All the ones I see do not have termination. A close examination of the jumpers on the majority of those pictured reveals a jumper for termination power, but none for termination. Also, a close look at the photos indicates that there are no components on the board that could provide termination, even if there were a jumper. For an adapter to have termination, there must be something like resistor packs or small voltage regulators. I want to believe. But so far, I'm not seeing it. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Spillage on keyboard - broken beyond repair?
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:42:55 PM UTC-7, Mac User #330250 wrote: Did I plug it in too early? Could it really be broken beyond repair? All suggestions are wellcome… You can buy 99.953% isopropyl alcohol for electronics cleaning at the usual places. I paid $7.99 for a liter of it at Micro Center (although I don't see it in their online catalog) a few years ago. That said, I wish to insert a reality check: Even if you are successful, you will have spent a great deal of time and money, and will still wind up with a five year old keyboard. Shopping carefully, you can buy a decent used one for under $40. There are decent Mac-compatible substitutes available for less. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SCSI issue has arisen
Hi Len, Thank you - I did track one down for a reasonable price. Not from Hong kong, but close enough - New Jersey :-) At any rate we'll see if the ATTO Express U2 card I picked up does the trick. Thanks again, Dana On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 15, 2013, at 7:34 PM, t...@prismnet.com wrote: On Jan 15, 12:13 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: Beiges have onboard 50 pin SCSI. Just get one of the SCA to 50 pin adapters snip Do you remember where you got them? Part number? I would dearly like to get some $5 SCA=50 pin adapters with termination. There are a bunch of 2.5 SCSI drives available now in the ~$10 range would would make nice little drives in older machines, if affordable adapters with termination could be found. I just picked some of the cheap ones off ebay from Hong Kong. A little longer shipping, but I see some right now for $2.75 each shipped. So if you are not in a hurry (I seem to remember them taking about 10 days to get to me), they are a pretty good deal. Just search for SCA 50 pin and that will get them. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/g3-5-list http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 Graphics Card
Do any of you know if a NVidia GeForce 7300GT video from a MacIntel Mac Pro tower will work in a G5 Quad Core tower (or, for that matter, any other non-MacIntel tower)? Thanking you in advance. Scott Birdwell DeFalco's Home Wine Beer Supplies www.defalcos.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Graphics Card
Do any of you know if a NVidia GeForce 7300GT video from a MacIntel Mac Pro tower will work in a G5 Quad Core tower (or, for that matter, any other non-MacIntel tower)? Thanking you in advance. I don't know for sure, but I doubt it, unless it was flashed. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- I am Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Graphics Card
It is not going to work unflashed, and I don't think a flash exists. Sorry :( The cards are cheap, though. -- -- Illirik Smirnov On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.comwrote: Do any of you know if a NVidia GeForce 7300GT video from a MacIntel Mac Pro tower will work in a G5 Quad Core tower (or, for that matter, any other non-MacIntel tower)? Thanking you in advance. I don't know for sure, but I doubt it, unless it was flashed. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- I am Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
