Jury/jerry rigging.

[Dan Stobbs]

Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both
terms.   "Jury rigging refers to makeshift
repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the tools and materials
that happen to be on hand. Originally a nautical term, on sailing ships a
jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of damage or
loss of the original mast. When more permanence is meant by the term, such
a build may be referred to as jerry rigged."

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Re: Jury/jerry rigging.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Dan Stobbs  wrote:

> Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both terms.   
> "Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made 
> with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a 
> nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards 
> improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast. When more 
> permanence is meant by the term, such a build may be referred to as jerry 
> rigged."

Got it! "Jury Rigged" == "Duct Tape"
"Jerry Rigged" ==" Duct tape AND a hose clamp"


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Re: Jury/jerry rigging.

[Kris Tilford]

On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Dan Stobbs > wrote:


Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both  
terms.   "Jury rigging refers to  
makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the  
tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a  
nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast  
and yards improvised in case of damage or loss of the original  
mast. When more permanence is meant by the term, such a build may  
be referred to as jerry rigged."



On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

Got it! "Jury Rigged" == "Duct Tape"
"Jerry Rigged" ==" Duct tape AND a hose clamp"


I'm not sure I see the logic of these? I never heard the nautical  
reference at all, and don't see its etymology?


I thought "jury rigged" was like a court jury that was rigged for an  
acquittal of the defendant. This is something risky because it's  
illegal and if it goes wrong it blows up in your face. This is a  
strategy of last resort that has high risk of failure, BUT if you get  
away with it, you walk away free (meaning fixed at no cost to you).  
I'd think this would be something like using JB Weld to repair a hole  
on the radiator of an old vehicle you rarely drive. If it works, it  
saves the cost of a new radiator that might cost more than the whole  
vehicle is worth, and could work for years & years; but if it fails,  
it might leave you stranded inside a tunnel with bad air, 70mph  
traffic, and possible death.


I thought "jerry-rigged" was a derogatory term from WWII referring to  
Germans as Jerrys? This would be in line with the even more derogatory  
racist term 'xx-rigged' that I won't mention here. I know that  
during periods of war the first thing the military does is try to  
dehumanize the enemy by inventing slang derogatory terminology so that  
the young soldiers don't think of the enemy as human beings. Below is  
a fairly comprehensive list these derogatory terms:




I'm not British, and WWII isn't my generation, so I'm not certain how  
"jerry-rigged" would make logical sense? German's are known for being  
anal and over-engineering almost everything, so perhaps jerry-rigged  
would logically be a backhanded compliment for something that's  
unnecessarily over-fixed when a quick temporary fix would suffice? For  
example, a broken wooden dowel rod on a cheap disposable plastic 4th- 
of-July flag that you fix with a metal pipe duct-taped with three  
layers to the snapped rod. An overfix that wastes resources, something  
that only an idiot "Jerry" would do.


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Re: Jury/jerry rigging.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Kris Tilford  wrote:

>>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Dan Stobbs  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both terms. 
>>>   "Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made 
>>> with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a 
>>> nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards 
>>> improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast. When more 
>>> permanence is meant by the term, such a build may be referred to as jerry 
>>> rigged."
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>> 
>> Got it! "Jury Rigged" == "Duct Tape"
>>  "Jerry Rigged" ==" Duct tape AND a hose clamp"
> 
> I'm not sure I see the logic of these? I never heard the nautical reference 
> at all, and don't see its etymology?
> 
> I thought "jury rigged" was like a court jury that was rigged for an 
> acquittal of the defendant. This is something risky because it's illegal and 
> if it goes wrong it blows up in your face. 

Well, Random House agrees with the nautical derivation of the 
term:

Jerry-rigged seems to be a mashup of 'Jerry-built' an English slang-term from 
the late 1800's meaning 'of shoddy construction' and jury-rig.



None of this has anything to do with '12 good men and true' OR germans...


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