Re: Eudora replacement

2014-01-19 Thread Jay Koutavas
Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering...

How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of Mac 
Eudora 6.2? 10? 100?, 1000?

Probably 100, by the likes of the FB page.

I use Mac Eudora v6.2 every day, since the mid 90s. I'm a pro software 
developer. I have built stuff of this complexity a number of times over, 
including a Mac email client a lng time ago for Digital Equipment 
Corporation. It's not easy to build a replacement. It would take EASILY 
over a year for me to do it. If I did do it, I'd stick to keeping the same 
workflow and features, and simply just "Freshen-up" the look and feel (but 
not change it like MailForge did).

Thoughts, comments? Collaborators? -- I'd do this project open source, 
because I love Eudora mail and want it to live on indefinitely.


On Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:13:47 AM UTC-4, benjee wrote:
>
> We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they are 
> still in beta.
>
> Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really need a 
> true Eudora replacement.
>
>
>
> -- Sent from my HP Pre3
>
> --
> On 22 Jul 2012 13.57, Stephen E. Bodnar > 
> wrote: 
>
> On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com  wrote: 
> > We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are 
> > still looking for a true Eudora replacement: 
> > 
> > Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora 
> > 
> > -- Sent from my HP Pre3 
>
> What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client, 
> and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora. 
>
> I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit 
> squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle. 
>
> Stephen 
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Re: Eudora replacement

2014-01-19 Thread Baldassare Guzzo
I used and enjoyed Eudora for many years and would absolutly use it as  
my main email client.  I am not a programmer but would be willing to  
help.  Beta test?



On Jan 19, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jay Koutavas wrote:


Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering...

How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of  
Mac Eudora 6.2? 10? 100?, 1000?


Probably 100, by the likes of the FB page.

I use Mac Eudora v6.2 every day, since the mid 90s. I'm a pro  
software developer. I have built stuff of this complexity a number  
of times over, including a Mac email client a lng time ago for  
Digital Equipment Corporation. It's not easy to build a replacement.  
It would take EASILY over a year for me to do it. If I did do it,  
I'd stick to keeping the same workflow and features, and simply just  
"Freshen-up" the look and feel (but not change it like MailForge did).


Thoughts, comments? Collaborators? -- I'd do this project open  
source, because I love Eudora mail and want it to live on  
indefinitely.



On Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:13:47 AM UTC-4, benjee wrote:
We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they  
are still in beta.


Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really  
need a true Eudora replacement.




-- Sent from my HP Pre3

On 22 Jul 2012 13.57, Stephen E. Bodnar  wrote:

On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote:
> We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of  
us are

> still looking for a true Eudora replacement:
>
> Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora
>
> -- Sent from my HP Pre3

What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email  
client,

and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora.

I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a  
bit

squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle.

Stephen

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Re: Eudora replacement

2014-01-19 Thread Bill & Bunny Kuhlman

Thank you, Jay!

I've used Eudora since first getting an email account in the days of 
48k modems and well before  became . I'm 
currently using Eudora 6.2.4 on a 2009 MacBook Pro 17" and it is the 
main reason I have not upgraded this machine further than OS 10.6.8.


I have eagerly followed threads in this group and others concerning 
Eudora replacements for OS 10.7 and above with great interest and am 
finally both eager and excited to know that someone may be willing to 
give re-coding Eudora a try.


I would pay for a Eudora replacement, or provide a substantial sum 
for donationware. To hear that it would be open-source is pretty 
incredible and very much appreciated.


If this project is to be taken on, my recommendation is that it be 
initiated as soon as possible.


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Re: Eudora replacement

2014-01-19 Thread Doug McNutt
At 5:51 -0800 1/19/14, Jay Koutavas wrote:
>Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering...
>
>How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of Mac Eudora 
>6.2? 10? 100?, 1000?
>
>Probably 100, by the likes of the FB page.
>
>I use Mac Eudora v6.2 every day, since the mid 90s. I'm a pro software 
>developer. I have built stuff of this complexity a number of times over, 
>including a Mac email client a lng time ago for Digital Equipment 
>Corporation. It's not easy to build a replacement. It would take EASILY over a 
>year for me to do it. If I did do it, I'd stick to keeping the same workflow 
>and features, and simply just "Freshen-up" the look and feel (but not change 
>it like MailForge did).
>
>Thoughts, comments? Collaborators? -- I'd do this project open source, because 
>I love Eudora mail and want it to live on indefinitely.


1) You need to become acquainted with :
Reply-To: Eudora for the Mac 
List-ID: Eudora for the Mac 

2) There are two different problems with Eudora. Email has changed and Apple 
wants iOS and OS-neXt to be written in X-code and objective C.

The whole concept of email has changed and Eudora won't be Eudora anymore if it 
is rewritten to handle IMAP and HTML the way other mail clients do.

Rewriting Eudora to compile in a newer Macintosh environment may be nearly 
impossible.  It would be easier if the source code were available but it's not 
because of some patent issues with the search  find parts of the code.  
Qualcomm says it can't release that because of a previous purchase agreement.

3) I'm using Eudora 5 on this OS 9.1 Mac 8500  and I find it very useful in the 
modern mail system. HTTP and IMAP just don't work.  By refusing to read HTML 
and refusing to use a host that demands IMAP I find my spam problems a whole 
lot easier.  Folks who want to talk soon get the idea.

4) What I'd really like to see is a version of Eudora that works in Linux with 
open source code. I might have some time to help with that. Most of the things 
I want could be done with perl which would be somewhat platform independent.
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