Suggested upgrades for a Power Mac G4 PCI Graphics
I just received a Yikes! G4 Mac, with 768MB RAM and a 433MHz processor. I would like some feedback on some recommended upgrades. I am planning on converting this system into a Linux server of some kind, preferably Yellow Dog Linux, and I've been browsing OWC and the only processor upgrade is a 1GHz G3 PowerLogix upgrade. Is there anything out there that's cheaper and would give me a similar boost in speed? Or would I be better off in just buying a Quicksilver? :P Thanks in advance! -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Falls Church, Virginia USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which used Mac to buy?
I believe PowerMax has systems in your budget. www.powermax.com On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 16:57, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote: Thanks much, everybody. Well, you've convinced me that I need to move up into the Intel world for the sort of work I do, but I think I'll have to get a tower rather than an iMac or Mini, because I'd like to just switch my two 1 TB hard drives from the G5 into the new machine, and I'd also like to keep using two big monitors. I guess I'm a tower man, then. As to the software issues, what if I got an Intel Mac Pro of some flavor and just stayed in 10.5 with it, in case there might be problems with some of my old software in Snow Leopard? I could work my way up to 10.6 gradually. Being a technology ignoramus, I don't know one type of Intel Mac Pro from another; Bruce up above mentions a second generation of them, and I don't know from this Core Duo/Core 2 duo 32/64 bit processor stuff. But it appears from what you all say that I'd be best off with a second generation 64-bit Core 2 Duo Mac Pro. My budget is around $1000, maybe a bit more. Can anyone suggest a used model of Mac Pro that fits this bill, and my (dollar) bills? Or am I asking for too much for the money? Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
I believe a transfer switch is a requirement per the National Electric Code if you want to hook up a generator directly the your home mains. If anyone goes wrong you could be CRIMINALLY LIABLE, not only for causing a potential electrical fire, but to damage the power grid. I suggest you consult an electrician from this point on for help. Also, transfer switches aren't that expensive when you're talking about electrical equipment to have in a house. They can cost up to 1000 dollars, potentially more, but that's only if you have a large number of circuits to connect. http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=371 On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 09:04, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: we live in a rural area, and power outages occasionally last for days. we have a generator for such situations, and i run all sorts of electronics on them. BUT, you absolutely MUST have a high quality UPS on any sensitive electronics, or you risk catastrophic failure. the output of that generator is NOT a clean sine wave, nor is it continuously constant voltage or frequency. a good UPS will correct this. and BECAUSE you are running a mini, which does NOT have a regulated power supply like a desktop and only has a simple rectified transformer PS, it will be particularly vulnerable. anyone who says otherwise thinks they know a lot more than they actually know. also, how do you plan to connect your computer to the generator? will you put the generator outside and run an extension cord in thru a door or window? generators are quite noisy, and an open window, even a crack, will let a lot of cold air in. if you wire it thru the main service entrance of your house, 800 W is certainly not enough to power the devices that will come on automatically, like the refrigerator, furnace, etc. when those kick on automatically, they will overload the 800 W generator and burn it out. i suggest that you go the whole 9 yards and get a minimum of 5000 W generator, and wire it thru the main service entrance, so you can also have heat and refrigeration, etc, during the power outages. but you must arrange it so that you can disconnect from the power grid while the generator is connected, otherwise when the power comes back on, it will almost certainly be out-of-phase with the generator, and cause the generator to fry. it's not that difficult to do, just add a 50 Amp dual breaker to the box and wire the output of the generator IN thru that breaker, making sure that the MAIN breaker is off, before you connect the generator. you could also spend several thousand dollars on a device that does this automatically, but if you can understand how to use a computer, you should be able to handle throwing a couple of switches in the correct sequence. then when there is a power outage and you disconnect from the grid to run your generator, simply phone the power company and request a courtesy call to let you know when the power is restored, at which time you will first disconnect the generator and then turn the MAIN breaker back on. On Oct 29, 4:44 pm, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: We live in a rural area where power outages occur commonly. I just purchased a 800 Rated Watts/900 Max Watts Portable Chicago Electric Generators http://www.harborfreight.com/800-rated-watts-900-max-watts-portable-g... in hopes of having back up power to run our WiFi ISP antenna, computers and a light or two. But, then I seem recalling that there are possible issues in the type of power a generator provides and the type computers like to receive. Comments and advice appreciated. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.
Perhaps you can give us the make and model number of the drive in question, we can pull the specifications. :) -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.
Looks like there shouldn't be any jumpers on it, the jumpers force a lower transfer speed. http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1679p_created=p_pv=2.294p_prods=227%2C294 I've never liked Western Digital's stuff, I had a round of lemons from them back in the 90s. Not sure what to tell you. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 13:43, Gottick International i...@gottick.com wrote: Perhaps you can give us the make and model number of the drive in question, we can pull the specifications. :) Sorry. WD Caviar WD5000AADS - 500GB -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.
Older controller chipsets had problems when it initially moved to SATA gen II, so some drives had the ability to force negotiation at 1.5Gbps. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 15:46, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/11/02 11:55, Ted Treen so eloquently wrote: The jumper on a SATA drive restricts it to 1.5Gbs (SATA 1) speed. It won't have any other effect. What would be the purpose of even doing this? I have 3GBs drives in my P M and it only supports 1.5GBs, so the end result is they do not exceed 1.5GBs. How is using a jumper to limit speed any better than letting the system dictate speed? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
You'll probably want to purchase a UPS and a transfer switch as well. http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=165#anchor1 http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=371 You'll also want to make sure that your power is clean from transient surges, so a UPS would be a good thing to have, given that most higher-end UPSes condition the incoming power. Your choice of generator looks OK, but the power rating it provides would probably be a little low for this application. Hope this helps. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:44, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: We live in a rural area where power outages occur commonly. I just purchased a 800 Rated Watts/900 Max Watts Portable Chicago Electric Generators http://www.harborfreight.com/800-rated-watts-900-max-watts-portable-generator-66619.html -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Daisy-chain-ing
No, it is not designed to be attached to multiple systems at once. You can switch between the interfaces, but only one system can be connected to it. The device you have has FW800 and FW400, in case the system you connect it to doesn't have FW800 support. Sorry... On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:51, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: Quick question Can I daisy chain fw400 fw800 devices together? I have a fw800 hard disk that plugs into the mac via fw800 and it's got a fw400 on the back of it that I'd like to plug my external optical drive into it that's only got fw400? I'm thinking this is fine but -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Daisy-chain-ing
Sorry, my mistake. I read some of the specifications for FireWire, and it is supported, but may require some extra hardware to work properly. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IEEE_1394#FireWire_400_.28IEEE_1394-1995.29 On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 16:02, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: now when you say, multiple systems what exactly do you mean? multiple computers? that's obvious to me and my scenario below has only one computer... please explain. Jeff On Oct 29, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: No, it is not designed to be attached to multiple systems at once. You can switch between the interfaces, but only one system can be connected to it. The device you have has FW800 and FW400, in case the system you connect it to doesn't have FW800 support. -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
I'm interested in a Quicksilver 2002 and a Gigabit Ethernet, the QS for OS X and the Gigabit for Linux on PPC. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 15:16, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: At 9:28 AM -0700 10/28/10, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I need to agree here, my MDD dual 1.42 is a keeper, very dependable machine. Jeff Engle Ditto knocking on wood! Diane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 64-bit question
Linux has a 64-bit version that would run on the G5. Check out Yellow Dog Linux: www.terrasoftsolutions.com On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 22:03, Arnel Tuazon a.tua...@gmail.com wrote: I know my G5 is 64-bit (I have the late 2005 dual core PPC G5), but is Leopard (10.5.9) 64-bit? I've been looking on the net, but couldn't find a definitive answer. I was told that only 10.6+ is 64-bit. If this is true is there an alternative OS that will run at 64-bit on the PPC G5? Not that I would install it, I was just curious if there was one. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VersionTracker folds
Get Adblock Plus for Firefox and you will see 90% fewer ads. :) http://www.adblockplus.org Hey! Not everybody can afford a G5! ;) I'm still waiting to get enough spare cash to buy a few Quicksilver '02s. :) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 08:42, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 19, 10:02 pm, Tina K. pengu...@gmx.com wrote: How can the Windows users stand it? -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial??
I've acquired industrial grade EdgePort USB-serial adapters for quite cheap off eBay, and provide full RS-232C compliant interfaces. Search eBay for edgeport. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:39, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or modem ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB and I need to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC machines. The communication program has all the setup configurations, however only affords either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of making this work. At the moment I transfer the files via floppy to a G3 PPC to send to the machines. I want to eliminate that step. Keyspan makes a USB-Serial adapter that's widely used for serial palm pilots and gps'es, it should work for your purposes. Heck a generic one might work and be cheaper... -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial??
I stand corrected - they don't have any plans on supporting Mac, however I thought since OS X is based upon BSD it would have support. My mistake. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:27, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Aug 11, 8:46 am, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com wrote: I've acquired industrial grade EdgePort USB-serial adapters for quite cheap off eBay, and provide full RS-232C compliant interfaces. Search eBay for edgeport. Do you use these with OS 9? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: we don't need no stinkin' adapters!
The cheapo adapters only provide a single voltage, which will power the drive, but won't allow it to operate in lower-power mode, and doesn't support hot swap. Read the article I put in my post. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 15:03, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: Unfortunately, it's not that easy. Native SATA power provides additional voltages that aren't available on older power supplies to support lower power consumption and hot-swap. Umm... if that were the case, there wouldn't be cheapo adapters?? I'm looking at the adapters in my hand... Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need info
I use Skype regularly, and it doesn't matter what type of system you install it on - as long as the Skype application is the same, it'll call anyone. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 15:39, Wm. Arnold w_arn...@att.net wrote: Do any of you on this list use or tried Skype ? Will it work between Windoz Mac ? Thanks -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville-Davidson County, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ibook G3 which linux?
openSUSE still is releasing for PowerPC, but I'm not sure on the hardware support of G3-class machines. It won't break anything to try it... :) http://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/11.1/iso/ On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:16, Peter Kim pete...@gmail.com wrote: You should be able to download Yellow Dog fairly easily, which is based on Red Hat. Unfortunately, Yellow Dog dropped mac development a few years ago to focus on Cell processors. I played with their latest on an old iMac, and it seemed decent then. Otherwise, OS X.3 would work well. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:53 PM, deftone_75 deftone...@yahoo.com wrote: I recently bought an ibook G3 clamshell 300, 576ram, 6 gb hard drive. I want to experiment with linux on this machine but not sure which version and where to get it. Any help would be great. Jason -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville-Davidson County, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dial-A-Mac?
If you pay them for a phone number, you can have it forward to a mobile phone or to a landline if you want. For me, this is an *excellent* companion to a cell phone. I haven't had any problems figuring out their system, of course I'm an engineer, with both PC and Mac experience... On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 13:09, John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com wrote: Skype is very good and reasonable except that you have to be at your computer to receive a call(I think). It's difficult to figure out their system if your a Mac person, it's not very intuitive. On Jan 13, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville-Davidson County, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: FYI: Lite-On iHAP422 CD/DVD drive won't fit in MDD.
I was able to remove the front bezel off the Smurf tower and install a DVD-ROM into my Blue White G3 without removing the drive's front bezel, if that's good for anything... :) Optical drive in question was a Samsung. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 21:42, Bruce bsugarb...@core.com wrote: tonycd wrote: Door is too wide to fit through the MDD faceplate, even after elaborate surgery. Back to Pioneer. == Hello, Also, if necessary, you remove the bezel from the front of the new drive. -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville-Davidson County, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Boot Camp
Virtual machine snapshots are awesome for that purpose. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:48, Bruce Johnsonjohn...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: If you need to run some Windows programs, forget about boot camp and use a virtual machine app, such as Parallels, VMWare Fusion or Virtual Box (which is free, and improving all the time). This is far far safer, since a) you're not mucking about with your existing Mac partition...the horror stories of Boot Camp are legion, and b) you can simply copy your virtual disk; so when Windows eats itself or your Windows install is infested with viruses, you just quit the VM, trash the virtual disk file, copy the good one back over and start it back up. Elapsed time to 're-install ' windows? under a minute. -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro/Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Return to PowerPC?
P.A. Semi's flagship product before they were acquired was the PWRficient processor, a PPC dual-core 2.0GHz processor that only consumed 4W power. I even contacted them for information on an evaluation kit (too bad it was $1495!) The PowerPC and POWER lines will live on - I'm just hoping Apple will still be part of the PowerPC program, even in an embedded market... On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Liam Provenlpro...@gmail.com wrote: I think PAsemi's strengths lie in fast multicore RISC. I think the ARM has lots of potential that current implementations, aimed mostly at cellphones, aren't exploiting. I suspect Apple will turn PAsemi over to making very fast, maybe multi-gigahertz, multicore ARM chips. Things that can scream along on mains power and also tick along on a tenth of a Watt when you're on batteries. -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro/Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs had liver transplant
I wouldn't mind, I live here... :) On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Kris Tilfordktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 20, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Bruce wrote: Reports: Apple CEO Steve Jobs had liver transplant I think about the two livers wasted on Mickey Mantle, the selfishness. As I understand it now, Steve Jobs gamed the system by going to Tennessee, the state with the shortest liver transplant waiting list, rather than waiting in line in his home state of California. If this is true, perhaps he should consider moving himself and Apple to Tennessee once he recovers? -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro/Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: browser speed
That's probably just because they set cookies in your browser when you login to remember your login. Cookies are browser-specific, and I'm not sure if you could make a link to the cookies in Firefox from SeaMonkey, but just logging in on the website in SeaMonkey should fix your problem. Also, some sites are more security-conscious than others, and will expire your cookies if you login in another location, so if you login with Firefox and then SeaMonkey, the Firefox side you will have to re-login. Hope this helps... :) On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Lawrence David Edenlde...@comcast.net wrote: Also: I noticed that some of my favorite sites (that require a login) did not recognize me when I used a different browser. What can I do to fix this annoying problem? Do I have to re-register? -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro/Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A polite netiquette back and forth
I thought that this thread was closed by the moderator? Also, GMail's reply function makes top posting, however annoying it may be to some people, but it is the default action, and I have not been able to figure out how to make it run otherwise. Sorry for the inconvenience. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, tragt...@io.com wrote: On Jun 14, 4:48 am, Gary D. g.dea...@web.de wrote: Why don't we just break up the group into two groups, one for top posters and one for bottom posters and than everybody will be happy. Or maybe not. (sorry) I would be happy because I neither read nor respond to top posters anyway. The exception to the preceeding is people who are obvious newbies who have never had the opportunity to learn better. The vast majority of top posters also fail to ever trim any of their quoted text. You can argue until cows get home email access about top vs. bottom posting, but failing to trim quoted text is a lazy inconsiderate poster happily wasting the time of hundreds of readers. It may not be apparent if you read lists on the Google Groups web interface, but if you have the digests or messages emailed to you, all that quoted text is a scrolling hell. -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro/Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: The powerpc now and in the future....
I'm still thinking about picking up a Quicksilver 2002 to use as a light-to-medium-duty server. Power Architecture is a great and efficient platform, too bad Apple didn't follow it through. DISCLAIMER: I work for IBM as a contractor, but I liked their products even before I started working with them. :) On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:27 PM, MaGioZalmagio...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/11/09 4:32 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 11, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Dan wrote: As emulators go, Rosetta - the black box that makes PPC stuff run on x86 Macs - is pretty good. Now we need the opposite emulator, the one that will allow future Intel x86 only code to run on our PPC Macs. I doubt this will ever exist, but it would certainly be welcomed. Well, the Macintosh is no stranger to CISC/x86 emulation! CISC emulation was already present in the PowerPC/Classic Mac OS era in order to run Motorola 68k applications. And x86 emulation was used on Windows-emulation programs like VirtualPC. -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro/Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dinosaur on the Internet
Do any local cellular providers offer 3G or equivalent data services in your area? If so, you may be able to get a much better connection than satellite and just slightly more expensive than what cable or DSL would be. Verizon EV-DO and ATT HSDPA are great options in those scenarios, and many major network equipment vendors offer 3G mobile routers which accept data cards and/or USB modems. Costs for monthly service can vary up to $60-70/month depending on your plan and area. Hope this helps... :) On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Ron Romine ronrom...@mac.com wrote: I need a new Internet provider, I would like some input on my options. For nearly two decades I've been using Compuserve. Where I live, the cable service still does not offer cable modem support, nor does the phone company offer DSL. (Both claim the need for equipment upgrades in my area.) Now, Compuserve is shutting down its Classic service, and suggesting other internet providers AOL, Gateway. I'm looking for options to dial up. I've already discovered the world of high speed wireless, as I use my G3 iBook Late 2001, (via Airport) in town at the various free hotspots. But I would also like some speed at home on my G4 DA Tower as well. I would like something I could swap or share between my laptop and tower, like a USB wireless modem, but both my machines have USB 1.1, I believe. Could you point me to some good info? Most of the sites I google are selling their own products and services. All I really need is an internet connection, no other services (mail, virus ware, etc.) are needed. - Ron. Mac user in need. -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Damaged G5!!
If it wasn't damaged when the shipper released it to UPS, they should have insured it. If they didn't, it was a *very* bad move. I'd take it up immediately with UPS, and quickly - they usually give you a limited timeframe in which to register damage complaints. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Dan A. Currie wrote: Hello ALL, I am NOT a happy camper!! I just took delivery on a G5 2.5 that I won on eBay and somewhere in transit UPS dropped it ... I mean they REALLY DROPPED IT!!! It seems to boot up and function nicely but the case wobbles and just generally looks bad!! My questions are ... Is it possible to repair the legs? Where do I send it? If it can't be repaired then I am returning it to UPS for a damage assessment. WOW! Repair would be a matter of replacing the case, although a car body shop might be able to fix it ... The crucial issue is determining if UPS dropped it or dropped something heavy ON it. (We once got a monitor box with a very clear boot print on it. Fortunately the packing protected the monitor, but it was obvious that the thing had been used as a stepladder) If it was dropped hard enough to cause that much damage, I wouldn't trust the thing at all, that's an enormous amount of shock. On the other hand, if something heavy was dropped on it, the case protected the computer. In any case I'd take it up with UPS immediately! -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we're all damaged. - Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
The two 22 LCDs I've worked with the most are the two that I'd recommend: Samsung SyncMaster 226bw ViewSonic VX2245wm My favorite LCD vendors are Samsung and ViewSonic. I highly recommend both of them. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Quicksilver (with an ATI Radeon 9800Pro) ... if you're giving away that Cinema ... I have room for it in my studio ... Oh ... you might consider getting another video card with correct connectors for the Cinema ... As much as I hate giving up a freebee ... Bill Connelly artsite:http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio Well, as much as I'd like to move everything into the new G5 and set the G4 out to pasture, I'm dragging along so much old hardware baggage from the past, like that ADC Cinema Display, that the G4 will have to go into a sort of active retirement to continue running some of it. The G5 just can't take it all on. For example, I was naive enough to think that I could just buy a PCIx SCSI card for the G5 and keep running my high-end Minolta Dimage film scanner with it (scans both medium format and 35mm), but no such luck. SCSI has apparently been practically discarded from desktop computing. I take a look at OWC and find out that SCSI cards for G5s are in the $400 range, rare and exotic beasts with prices to match. So, instead of being discarded, the old Quicksilver will probably have to be set off in a corner somewhere hooked up to this 24 Cinema Display and running the Minolta film scanner, plus an old Relysis SCSI flatbed scanner with a glass bed big enough to scan maps and things, and who knows what else around here that the G5 can't run. The scans from the G4 will have to be brought over to the G5 in a flash drive or something. (Sigh.) Just can't afford to upgrade everything all at once. Still looking for an affordable non-Apple 22-24 LCD monitor for the G5 that is comparable in visual quality to a Cinema Display. If no such thing exists, I'll just have to buy that $100 Apple adapter to make the old ADC Cinema Display work with the G5. Then the G4 will get one of the old CRT monitors still sitting around here to use with the scanners etc. Upgrading computers is such a hassle. . . Tom -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we're all damaged. - Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
Both of those displays look like great deals, and I'd suggest the T220. Both are similar to the ones I've worked with. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 12, 12:05 pm, Alex Smith (K4RNT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two 22 LCDs I've worked with the most are the two that I'd recommend: Samsung SyncMaster 226bw ViewSonic VX2245wm My favorite LCD vendors are Samsung and ViewSonic. I highly recommend both of them. Thanks for the recommendation Alex. Costco has this Samsung http:// tinyurl.com/4p5o47 for $229 and this one http://tinyurl.com/4b9wve for $259. They appear nearly identical. Which one is most like the one you've had good experience with? Then there's this even bigger 25.5 Samsung http://tinyurl.com/4seaol for $479, 2 inches larger than the others (for about $100 per additional inch!). Any knowledge of that one? Good grief, look at all the big monitors available at just this one store, Costco: http://tinyurl.com/4dccn5, and that's just one page of several! Surely there's something among all these that is comparable in visual quality to an Apple Cinema Display? Anyway, thanks again for the advice. I'll look first at the Samsungs, then. The advantage with a place like Costco is, if you buy one and then decide it isn't up to snuff, you can take it back. Tom -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we're all damaged. - Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
If color accuracy is *that* important to you, and price is an issue, look on eBay for Eizo LCDs. Eizo makes displays for professional users, like medical imaging and such. They manufacture their LCDs with color accuracy and precision being the premiums. http://www.eizo.com/ If price isn't an issue, look at the ViewSonic Graphic series: http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcddisplays/ On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still researching big monitors. I'll be doing Photoshop and Final Cut work, and it appears that not everybody is happy with the T-series Samsungs for such purposes. It appears that the T stands for twisted nematic (TN) LCD, and these are considered by many to be lower quality and for non-critical color work such as gaming, since they are impossible to calibrate and the colors are said to shift with slight changes in viewing angle. Mind you, this is just what I'm reading, I don't have any personal experience with any other LCD display than my old Apple Cinema Display. Whether or not these reported color problems would be noticeable to me, I don't know yet. But reviews like this one on Amazon on the T-series Samsungs are a little worrisome for somebody wanting to to precision Photoshop and Final Cut work: http://tinyurl.com/4xozwn. I think I need to get out and really look at some of these Samsungs, or bring one home and try it out. Many Mac users appear to be really happy with them. -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we're all damaged. - Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
