Appleworks problem

[Wm. Arnold]

Hi Group,
I would like to know what replaces Appleworks.
I am using G4 & G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11
I do not want to put OS9 on them.
Wm

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Re: Appleworks problem

[Alex Barnes]

iWork? I can run Appleworks on my MacBook Pro though. It doesn't even need 
Rosetta!

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Re: Appleworks problem

[Tina K.]

On 2011/01/17 18:44, Wm. Arnold so eloquently wrote:

I would like to know what replaces Appleworks.
I am using G4&  G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11


AppleWorks will run just fine on your PPCs running Tiger. The 
alternatives are iWork ($79), Office ($150), or NeoOffice (free).


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Re: Appleworks problem

[Alex Barnes]

I think there is an OS X version of OpenOffice.
On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Tina K. wrote:

> On 2011/01/17 18:44, Wm. Arnold so eloquently wrote:
>> I would like to know what replaces Appleworks.
>> I am using G4&  G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11
> 
> AppleWorks will run just fine on your PPCs running Tiger. The alternatives 
> are iWork ($79), Office ($150), or NeoOffice (free).
> 
> Tina
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Re: Appleworks problem

[DAN A CURRIE]

On 1/17/11 7:44 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote:

Hi Group,
I would like to know what replaces Appleworks.
I am using G4&  G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11
I do not want to put OS9 on them.
Wm

I have a G5 2.5 dualie running 10.5.8 and I am currently using 
Appleworks 6.2.4 and have been for years with no problems.


Dan

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Re: Appleworks problem

[John Callahan]

On Jan 17, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote:


Hi Group,
I would like to know what replaces Appleworks.
I am using G4 & G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11
I do not want to put OS9 on them.
Wm





Nothing replaces Appleworks :-( :-(:-( :-(!!!


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Re: Appleworks problem

[Dana Collins]

On 1/17/11 9:43 PM, John Callahan of jcalla...@stny.rr.com sent

> 
> On Jan 17, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote:
> 
>> Hi Group,
>> I would like to know what replaces Appleworks.
>> I am using G4 & G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11
>> I do not want to put OS9 on them.
>> Wm
> 
> 
> 
>> Nothing replaces Appleworks :-( :-(:-( :-(!!!

Here, here! AppleWorks rocks! Though I am trying hard to get used to Pages'
syntax (not easy, imho).
I have used AppleWorks 6.2.9 in Leopard for quite some time now, both PPC
and Intel. Have not tried it in Snow Leopard.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Appleworks problem

[Yersinia]

 On 1/17/11 10:57 PM, Dana Collins wrote:

On 1/17/11 9:43 PM, John Callahan of jcalla...@stny.rr.com sent


On Jan 17, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote:


Hi Group,
I would like to know what replaces Appleworks.
I am using G4&  G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11
I do not want to put OS9 on them.
Wm




Nothing replaces Appleworks :-( :-(:-( :-(!!!

Here, here! AppleWorks rocks! Though I am trying hard to get used to Pages'
syntax (not easy, imho).
I have used AppleWorks 6.2.9 in Leopard for quite some time now, both PPC
and Intel. Have not tried it in Snow Leopard.




Appleworks rocks, YEAH!!  Wow, didn't know it would work with Leopard or 
on a Macintel. I've been running 6.2.9 since I was on OS 9, and kept it 
when I got Tiger but I'm still with my PPCs (now running 10.4.11 on the 
Quicksilver 867 and iBook G3/800).


~Yersinia.

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Re: Appleworks problem

[Clark Martin]

On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Yersinia wrote:
> 
> Appleworks rocks, YEAH!!  Wow, didn't know it would work with Leopard or on a 
> Macintel. I've been running 6.2.9 since I was on OS 9, and kept it when I got 
> Tiger but I'm still with my PPCs (now running 10.4.11 on the Quicksilver 867 
> and iBook G3/800).


It runs on Snow Leopard on my MacBook Pro.


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Re: Appleworks problem

[Lawrence David Eden]

I run AppleWorks 6 on my G4.  You don't need OS9.


Larry





Hi Group,
I would like to know what replaces Appleworks.
I am using G4 & G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11
I do not want to put OS9 on them.
Wm

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Re: Appleworks problem

[Alex Barnes]

IMO Appleworks is better than iWork.
On Jan 17, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Clark Martin wrote:

> 
> On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Yersinia wrote:
>> 
>> Appleworks rocks, YEAH!!  Wow, didn't know it would work with Leopard or on 
>> a Macintel. I've been running 6.2.9 since I was on OS 9, and kept it when I 
>> got Tiger but I'm still with my PPCs (now running 10.4.11 on the Quicksilver 
>> 867 and iBook G3/800).
> 
> 
> It runs on Snow Leopard on my MacBook Pro.
> 
> 
> Clark Martin
> Redwood City, CA, USA
> Macintosh / Internet Consulting
> 
> "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway"
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Re: Appleworks problem

[John Carmonne]

On Jan 17, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote:

> Hi Group,
> I would like to know what replaces Appleworks.
> I am using G4 & G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11
> I do not want to put OS9 on them.
> Wm
> 
AppleWorks 6 runs on OS 9 all the way through !0.6.6.

John Carmonne
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92886 USA
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Re: Appleworks problem

[rogerd095]

On Jan 18, 1:56 pm, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
> I run AppleWorks 6 on my G4.  You don't need OS9.

Conversely, AppleWorks runs perfectly well on OS 9. You don't need OS
X!

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Re: Appleworks problem

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:12 PM, rogerd095 wrote:

> On Jan 18, 1:56 pm, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
>> I run AppleWorks 6 on my G4.  You don't need OS9.
> 
> Conversely, AppleWorks runs perfectly well on OS 9. You don't need OS
> X!

Realistically, yes you do. While it's not as dire as it used to be before the 
advent of Classila, OS 9 is still almost useless on the modern web.

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Re: Appleworks problem

[rogerd095]

On Jan 19, 11:29 pm, Bruce Johnson 
wrote:
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:12 PM, rogerd095 wrote:
>
> > On Jan 18, 1:56 pm, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
> >> I run AppleWorks 6 on my G4.  You don't need OS9.
>
> > Conversely, AppleWorks runs perfectly well on OS 9. You don't need OS
> > X!
>
> Realistically, yes you do. While it's not as dire as it used to be before the 
> advent of Classila, OS 9 is still almost useless on the modern web.
>
Apologies for any misunderstanding. For the sake of clarity, I should
perhaps have finished my post by adding 'to run AppleWorks.'

Which platform you prefer is a matter of choice. It's just a pity that
AppleWorks 6 seems quite a bit less polished than ClarisWorks 5.0 - or
even v.4.0, for that matter.

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Re: Appleworks problem

[John Carmonne]

>> 
>> Realistically, yes you do. While it's not as dire as it used to be before 
>> the advent of Classila, OS 9 is still almost useless on the modern web.
>> 
> Apologies for any misunderstanding. For the sake of clarity, I should
> perhaps have finished my post by adding 'to run AppleWorks.'
> 
> Which platform you prefer is a matter of choice. It's just a pity that
> AppleWorks 6 seems quite a bit less polished than ClarisWorks 5.0 - or
> even v.4.0, for that matter.
> 
 AppleWorks 6 is missing a couple of things  in the earlier Clais products but 
to have an application that runs from OS 8 to 10.6.6 is real OK in this town.
I still run spread sheets I made twenty years ago and iWork doesn't even try to 
open them, what's with that? Claris, AppleWorks an iWork are all Apple products.


John Carmonne
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Re: Appleworks problem

[Bruce Johnson]

That's nothing. I have MS Word docs from 20 years ago that MS Word 2011 does 
not open.

 File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 45 
year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE trying 
to decipher the data!

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On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:11 AM, John Carmonne  wrote:

> I still run spread sheets I made twenty years ago and iWork doesn't even try 
> to open them, what's with that? Claris, AppleWorks an iWork are all Apple 
> products.
> 

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Re: Appleworks problem

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:33 AM, rogerd095  wrote:

> 
> Which platform you prefer is a matter of choice. It's just a pity that
> AppleWorks 6 seems quite a bit less polished than ClarisWorks 5.0 - or
> even v.4.0, for that matter.
> 

Or the late lamented still-missed Claris spreadsheet which was based on WingZ.

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Re: Appleworks problem

[Alex Barnes]

On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> 
> 
> File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 45 
> year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE 
> trying to decipher the data!

Thats why NASA was shut down :)

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Re: Appleworks problem

[John Carmonne]

On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> That's nothing. I have MS Word docs from 20 years ago that MS Word 2011 does 
> not open.
> 
> File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 45 
> year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE 
> trying to decipher the data!
> 
> -- 
> Bruce 
> 
> 

Hmm, sounds like Binary, been there;-)  I'm a CNC programmer. Still have 5.25 
floppy's from my IIe.

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Re: Appleworks problem

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:51 AM, John Carmonne wrote:

> Hmm, sounds like Binary, been there;-)

Binary data, with fun things like different endedness and things like 14 bit 
bytes, etc.

However this old data is proving invaluable, a re-analysis of old Pioneer data 
is solving some mysteries about the solar system:



And re-analysis of Viking data changed some findings 180 degrees:



(Of course, this analysis wouldn't have been possible without the additional 
knowledge we've learned from the magnificent Mars Rover programs which show 
indisputably that NASA's still able to conjure up the Right Stuff. Probes with 
90-day mission expected lifetimes and one is STILL working, SEVEN YEARS later.)

Data is valuable, and you can never tell what you might be able to learn from 
it later.

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Re: Appleworks problem

[Vic]

On Jan 20, 10:01 am, Bruce Johnson 
wrote:
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:51 AM, John Carmonne wrote:
>
> > Hmm, sounds like Binary, been there;-)
>
> Binary data, with fun things like different endedness and things like 14 bit 
> bytes, etc.
>
> However this old data is proving invaluable, a re-analysis of old Pioneer 
> data is solving some mysteries about the solar system:
>
> 
>
> And re-analysis of Viking data changed some findings 180 degrees:
>
> 
>
> (Of course, this analysis wouldn't have been possible without the additional 
> knowledge we've learned from the magnificent Mars Rover programs which show 
> indisputably that NASA's still able to conjure up the Right Stuff. Probes 
> with 90-day mission expected lifetimes and one is STILL working, SEVEN YEARS 
> later.)
>
That's 'cause they run 68K processors - never shoulda switched...

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Re: Appleworks problem

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On Jan 20, 8:51 am, John Carmonne  wrote:
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> > That's nothing. I have MS Word docs from 20 years ago that MS Word 2011 
> > does not open.
>
> > File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 
> > 45 year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE 
> > trying to decipher the data!

> Hmm, sounds like Binary, been there;-)  I'm a CNC programmer. Still have 5.25 
> floppy's from my IIe.

Not too hard to deal with, but the NASA tapes likely encode characters
using EBCDIC instead of ASCII.  Unless there was something even more
obscure that predated EBCDIC.   When I was at NASA in the 80s, and
needed to read data on tapes, it was in EBCDIC because up to that
point, NASA was an IBM house as far as computers went.

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