Re: Bad RAM Stick?
On Jan 1, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Wonder why it says your RAM is probably fine? I've heard good things about OWC, so I think they will prolly send me a new one. I did not remove the sticker that sez don't remove. Its probably a mistake/misleading comment inserted by the Applejack author. According to Memtest OS X folks, its not a part of memtest. It confused me, too, when I was testing my RAM using Applejack/ memtest, finding 2 bad 512MB sticks in my QS ... non-OWC brands. :( Just call give OWC the Serial Number on the sticker(s), and they'll issue an RMA. AFAIK ... When you remove the battery, I don't believe you need to also push the CUDA. Good Luck. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 1, 2009, at 3:28 PM, insightinmind wrote: Did not yet zap the pram, etc. because things be fine with the old chip. I believe every time your replace a RAM stick, you need to zap the PRAM. No you don't. -- Bruce Johnson No matter where you go, there you are, B. Banzai --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 1, 2009, at 3:28 PM, insightinmind wrote: Did not yet zap the pram, etc. because things be fine with the old chip. I believe every time your replace a RAM stick, you need to zap the PRAM. No you don't. That's good to know. Nevertheless, doesn't that force a RAM Check at Startup in PPCs if you do? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
At 6:49 AM -0500 1/2/2009, insightinmind wrote: AFAIK ... When you remove the battery, I don't believe you need to also push the CUDA. Correct, IF the main power to the computer is removed. When the main power is AWOL, the Power Management Unit (PMU) and the PRAM run off the battery. If you hit the CUDA button, it reboots the PMU. If you pull the battery (while the main power is also gone), the PMU crashes and the PRAM looses its data. When you re-insert the battery, the PMU is booted. It notices that the PRAM is in a bad state, and resets the values to their defaults (the equivalent of zapping the PRAM). FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Thanks Dan, Wallace, McGrude ~ Yanked the stick, put old one back in, Mac worked fine for several days. Just reinstalled the stick, made sure well seated, made sure no dust with newly purchased air can. In two minutes, Firefox crashed yet again. D/l and ran Applejack Memtest, it said FAILURE many times, but I can't find the Applejack.log. Would like to read the specifics. Where is it? Also found ye olde Apple Hardware Test and that said Error Code mem_/ 2/4. Did not yet zap the pram, etc. because things be fine with the old chip. I believe every time your replace a RAM stick, you need to zap the PRAM. Did not do the Qtip with Isopropyl Alcohol yet (what is this, a Ninendo64?) but if you guys think I should do it, okay. Somehow I think it is contacting all right, or the Tests would have remarked absence, but what do I know. Is it time to contact OWC for a replacement or is there something else to do? Oh, right, look in System logs. But are the two failures in the memory hardware tests definitive? Thanks and Happy New Year, IMO, If you replaced the suspected bad stick, with one that works for awhile (in the same RAM slot tested with Memtest), then put the suspected bad one back in the same RAM slot, and Memtest fails, I'd say it was a bad stick. OWC might test it again ... but get them to replace it, as long as you have its serial number, you're good for replacement, AFAIK. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 1, 2009, at 5:28 PM, insightinmind wrote: IMO, If you replaced the suspected bad stick, with one that works for awhile (in the same RAM slot tested with Memtest), then put the suspected bad one back in the same RAM slot, and Memtest fails, I'd say it was a bad stick. Hey, there - I didn't test the good old 256 stick yet - just the suspect 512. It seems better at the moment, no crashes yet (about 15 mins and several programs open). Sometimes fooling around with things gets them to work. I'll check out the PRAM. I thought the PPCs didn't need to do that anymore, that was just the older machines. Guess I stand corrected. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...- addendum PRAM ZAP post RAM upgrade?
On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: I'll check out the PRAM. I thought the PPCs didn't need to do that anymore, that was just the older machines. Guess I stand corrected. The PRAM point appears debatable (and my personal experience shows no need in a Macbook but that's not this list): http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=54735 http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1051823tstart=855 http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=89736page=4 There's a lot less stored in PRAM in OS X: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1242 The old Apple support document lists virtual RAM and RAM disk and disk cache and 32-bit addressing as being stored in PRAM which hints at the connection to newly installed RAM but the connection to the hardware itself is not clearly stated: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379?viewlocale=en_US --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Clark Martin wrote: What you do need to do when changing memory is push the button to reset the CUDA button on those machines that have it. I don't know off hand which do and don't. Could also just remove battery for a few minutes (Apple suggested 10). Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Looking at the logs
On Dec 29, 2008, at 1:45 AM, Dan wrote: What is the exact error message? As AppleJack memtest ran, I could see it writing FAILURE over and over again, but I couldn't really understanding what it was saying specifically. I thought I'd look at the logs, but I couldn't access them by searching once I'd booted up my machine. I also ran Apple Hardware Test, and this is what it said: Error Code mem_/2/4 When the app crashes, what does it say about it in system log? in console log? in the app's crash log? Okay, I'm looking for these - search for system logid cough up console log, not sure how ... I am still getting used to the new Sherlock (Spotlight?) This is Console Log: Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 (Build 8S165) 2009-01-01 18:35:09 -0500 2009-01-01 18:35:25.500 SystemUIServer[210] lang is:en 2009-01-01 19:22:20.556 crashreporter[319] CFLog (0): CFMessagePort: bootstrap_register(): failed 1103 (0x44f), port = 0x3103, name = 'org.mozilla.crashreporter.ServiceProvider' See /usr/include/servers/bootstrap_defs.h for the error codes. 2009-01-01 19:22:20.563 crashreporter[319] CFLog (99): CFMessagePortCreateLocal(): failed to name Mach port (org.mozilla.crashreporter.ServiceProvider) Insightinmind suggested maybe the 256 stick which was working fine might not be good, but I've put it back and the computer works fine. As soon as I reinstall the new 512, the computer gets flaky again. Will check if the QS has a CUDA button - or remove the battery (which battery?) - OWC didn't say to do any of these things, I followed their directions very carefully. Thanks for any input. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:35 PM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 1 of 1 == Date: Thurs, Jan 1 2009 1:33 pm From: Anne Keller-Smith Is it time to contact OWC for a replacement or is there something else to do? Oh, right, look in System logs. Hi Anne: I would call OWC, describe what you've done, run through any additional protocol they may have, and they will likely exchange with little or no quibble. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
On Dec 29, 2008, at 1:45 AM, Dan wrote: When the app crashes, what does it say about it in system log? in console log? in the app's crash log? Okay, I finally found this. Do you want me to paste in these results? Lotsa dense text. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Hi, Al!
On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Al Poulin wrote: Hi Anne: I would call OWC, describe what you've done, run through any additional protocol they may have, and they will likely exchange with little or no quibble. Al Poulin Happy New Year Al! Since I guess I won't call OWC until tomorrow (you suggest using the telephone as opposed to email?) do you think I should look for the CUDA button or yank the battery? Or leave well enough alone? One other thing I might do just to assuage my curiosity, altho I'm not sure my back will take it, is swap the RAM cards again and run AppleJack one more time, see what it says on the stick that's been in there for about 8 years already and never caused any trouble ... What I mean about my back is lifting the Quicksilver is a challenge with my bad back, all that Lucite ~ it's pretty but heavy as heck. Well when I get sick of all the crashing I'll have to. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: *** Address Test Failed *** One or more DIMM address lines are non- functional. Sounds like a raw hardware issue and other web sites agree. http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6091706 http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-59143.html However, be sure to check the modules separately - was this a lone module during the test? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: *** Address Test Failed *** One or more DIMM address lines are non- functional. *** Memory Test Failed *** Please check logfile for details. Memory test was successfull. Your RAM is probably fine. Done. -0- Exiting the script. Restarting localhost *** GOODBYE FROM APPLEJACK *** What does this mean? Nearly all the lines above the end synopsis said FAILURE. Memory test was successfull. Your RAM is probably fine. That confused me, too. I finally let go and assumed the RAM was bad ... but I couldn't return mine to anyone ... 2 512MB sticks for my QS (not from OWC or DMS). Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
From: Anne Keller-Smith Yanked the stick, put old one back in, Mac worked fine for several days. Just reinstalled the stick, made sure well seated, made sure no dust with newly purchased air can. In two minutes, Firefox crashed yet again. That would be enough for me to conclude it is the stick. -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
On Jan 1, 2009, at 6:52 PM, insightinmind wrote: On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: *** Address Test Failed *** One or more DIMM address lines are non- functional. *** Memory Test Failed *** Please check logfile for details. Memory test was successfull. Your RAM is probably fine. Done. -0- Exiting the script. Restarting localhost *** GOODBYE FROM APPLEJACK *** What does this mean? Nearly all the lines above the end synopsis said FAILURE. Memory test was successfull. Your RAM is probably fine. That confused me, too. The TEST was successful! The RAM failed! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
On Jan 1, 2009, at 10:05 PM, MIKO .. wrote: On Jan 1, 2009, at 6:52 PM, insightinmind wrote: On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: *** Address Test Failed *** One or more DIMM address lines are non- functional. *** Memory Test Failed *** Please check logfile for details. Memory test was successfull. Your RAM is probably fine. Done. -0- Exiting the script. Restarting localhost *** GOODBYE FROM APPLEJACK *** What does this mean? Nearly all the lines above the end synopsis said FAILURE. Memory test was successfull. Your RAM is probably fine. That confused me, too. The TEST was successful! The RAM failed! This Just Back from Memtest OS X Support: http://www.memtestosx.org/joomla/index.php Are you running memtest from some other program? That last line about the ram probably being fine is not in my version of memtest. Obviously, the memory is bad, it failed two tests. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
Wonder why it says your RAM is probably fine? I've heard good things about OWC, so I think they will prolly send me a new one. I did not remove the sticker that sez don't remove. On Jan 1, 2009, at 9:52 PM, insightinmind wrote: On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: *** Address Test Failed *** One or more DIMM address lines are non- functional. *** Memory Test Failed *** Please check logfile for details. Memory test was successfull. Your RAM is probably fine. Done. -0- Exiting the script. Restarting localhost *** GOODBYE FROM APPLEJACK *** What does this mean? Nearly all the lines above the end synopsis said FAILURE. Memory test was successfull. Your RAM is probably fine. That confused me, too. I finally let go and assumed the RAM was bad ... but I couldn't return mine to anyone ... 2 512MB sticks for my QS (not from OWC or DMS). Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Bad RAM Stick?
Just got and installed a RAM stick from OWC and it makes the Mac run like a Dream. However, Firefox and Dreamweaver keep quitting unexpectedly, behavior unknown before the install. What do you all think? :@( Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
Remove the stick and observe. If the behavior changes, then yes, it may be a bad stick. On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: Just got and installed a RAM stick from OWC and it makes the Mac run like a Dream. However, Firefox and Dreamweaver keep quitting unexpectedly, behavior unknown before the install. What do you all think? :@( Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: Just got and installed a RAM stick from OWC and it makes the Mac run like a Dream. However, Firefox and Dreamweaver keep quitting unexpectedly, behavior unknown before the install. What do you all think? :@( Was the slot clean? Is the RAM fully seated? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick?
At 12:45 AM -0500 12/29/2008, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 Just got and installed a RAM stick from OWC and it makes the Mac run like a Dream. However, After installing the stick, did you run any diagnostics - AHT or Memtest? Firefox and Dreamweaver keep quitting unexpectedly, behavior unknown before the install. What is the exact error message? When the app crashes, what does it say about it in system log? in console log? in the app's crash log? ...IOW, typical memory related failures don't just happen quietly. When the system detects the errors, it spews all over the logs... If you're worried about the stick, run Memtest overnight. Memtest is included with AppleJack, as an install option... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
