Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-27 Thread Scottls
From the description you're giving it seems like you'll need at least
a G4 1GHz. Anything else wouldn't be able to write DVD's or any kind
or real photo editing. It also depends on what type of gaming you're
looking to do. Any flash based games online would need that much as
well or more.

Also 1 GB of memory would be a good minimum to aim for. This might
seem like a huge step up but it all could be done on as little as a
1GHz G4 eMac.

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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-27 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 Photoshop dates from 1988. When this G3 was new, it was top of the line, and
 is what all the P'Shop pros ran out and bought.

My first brush with Photoshop (rimshot) was when I used PS3 on a IIci. Moving
to PS4 on a 7100 was a revelation.

But clearly what drives today's CPU demands is browser requirements. If you
don't need that, then even a fast 603 or 604 will do very, very well.

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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-27 Thread t...@io.com


On Feb 24, 11:43 pm, Eleni elen...@otenet.gr wrote:
 Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz under Mac OS 8.6?

 How capable are these PowerMac G3 400MHz?  What if you have max memory 
 installed (1GB)?

 Just saw one on ebay in mint condition, is it worth buying?

Ignoring the discussion of hardware and such...

Roxio Toast Titanium 5.x runs on Classic and supports burning to DVD.
I don't know if it supports double-layer DVD, but it definitely does
single layer.  Also, I don't know if it runs on 8.6, but it does run
on 9.1.  It is the last version of Toast to do so.  Versions 6.x and
above all require OSX.

I believe that 5.23 was the last update to version 5.x.

I have burned many DVDs using an old Umax S900 (8600/9600 clone), a G3
processor card at about 350 MHz and a DVDR drive and Toast 5.x.

Jeff Walther

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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-27 Thread Jesse St.John


On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:


No one runs iTunes. They only crawl.



AGREED.

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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-26 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Feb 24, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Eleni wrote:

 Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz under Mac OS 8.6?
 

CD's yes, IF you have a recognized drive or Toast; I'm not sure at all about 
DVD's,because DVD-Rs post-date 8.6...it'll depend on your software.


 How capable are these PowerMac G3 400MHz?  What if you have max memory 
 installed (1GB)?

Well, at one time they were the top of the line. Web, Photoshop, etc all ran 
well on these...but that's Photoshop 3 or 4, and Netscape 4, etc. 

 
 Just saw one on ebay in mint condition, is it worth buying?


Not really, not if you want a functional-in-the-modern-world machine. Shipping 
alone is more than what one of these is worth as a daily work system.
 
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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-26 Thread Jesse St.John
in all reality, if you are looking for one, seriously consider getting  
it on craiglist, i have found many many many of these on there. and i  
live in an area with crap for apple selection(iowa yeah were  
nice.) but they always pop-up for anywhere between 20-40 bux. ive  
found six between 100 miles of me. and i want a few myself(it was like  
THE mac i wanted when i graduated high school, but i couldnt afford  
it.  think about it, if you spend gas and 20 bux , you get what you  
want in short, and not have to pay peoples shady shipping costs.  BAM!



On Feb 26, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Feb 24, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Eleni wrote:


Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz under Mac OS 8.6?



CD's yes, IF you have a recognized drive or Toast; I'm not sure at  
all about DVD's,because DVD-Rs post-date 8.6...it'll depend on your  
software.



How capable are these PowerMac G3 400MHz?  What if you have max  
memory installed (1GB)?


Well, at one time they were the top of the line. Web, Photoshop, etc  
all ran well on these...but that's Photoshop 3 or 4, and Netscape 4,  
etc.




Just saw one on ebay in mint condition, is it worth buying?



Not really, not if you want a functional-in-the-modern-world  
machine. Shipping alone is more than what one of these is worth as a  
daily work system.


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Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-25 Thread Eleni
Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz under Mac OS 8.6?

How capable are these PowerMac G3 400MHz?  What if you have max memory 
installed (1GB)?

Just saw one on ebay in mint condition, is it worth buying?

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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-25 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 25-02-2012 6:43, Eleni ha scritto:

 Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz under Mac OS 8.6?
CDs, definitely.
DVDs, I think you have to limit the max speed you're writing with - I don't
think a G3/400 can hold 8x DVD writing, but 2x should be fine.

 How capable are these PowerMac G3 400MHz?  What if you have max memory
 installed (1GB)?
 
 Just saw one on ebay in mint condition, is it worth buying?
Well, as always, it all depends on what you're going to do with it.

I once had a Beige PowerMac G3/266 (later upgraded to 450 MHz and then 900
MHz), and I absolutely LOVED IT. :-)
It was a great machine, very stable and highly upgradable.
OTOH, it would be useless for my needs now.

Personally, I'd go for a G4 minimum: faster, more efficient architecture,
more compatible with late software.
But, again, it depends on YOU; if you state what your needs are, I'm sure
the people here will be able to suggest the right Mac for you.

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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-25 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I suppose everything has a price at which it will sell, but I'd
recommend a G4 as the lowest level Mac worth buying. The 1.25 GHz MDD
G4 are going for $150 or less and if I may say, are the sweet spot for
MIPS/$ when it comes to old Macs. It will run Leopard fairly well, and
I still use mine for digitizing video (via an external digitizer thru
firewire).

To directly answer the question, yes, the G3 burns just fine.

On Feb 25, 12:43 am, Eleni elen...@otenet.gr wrote:
 Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz under Mac OS 8.6?

 How capable are these PowerMac G3 400MHz?  What if you have max memory 
 installed (1GB)?

 Just saw one on ebay in mint condition, is it worth buying?

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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-25 Thread Eleni
Thank you all for your replies.  My basic needs are internet browsing, Word 
processor, excel, CD/DVD burning, photo editing and some games.

Is the G3 sufficient?

On Feb 25, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:

 Il giorno 25-02-2012 6:43, Eleni ha scritto:
 
 Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz under Mac OS 8.6?
 CDs, definitely.
 DVDs, I think you have to limit the max speed you're writing with - I don't
 think a G3/400 can hold 8x DVD writing, but 2x should be fine.
 
 How capable are these PowerMac G3 400MHz?  What if you have max memory
 installed (1GB)?
 
 Just saw one on ebay in mint condition, is it worth buying?
 Well, as always, it all depends on what you're going to do with it.
 
 I once had a Beige PowerMac G3/266 (later upgraded to 450 MHz and then 900
 MHz), and I absolutely LOVED IT. :-)
 It was a great machine, very stable and highly upgradable.
 OTOH, it would be useless for my needs now.
 
 Personally, I'd go for a G4 minimum: faster, more efficient architecture,
 more compatible with late software.
 But, again, it depends on YOU; if you state what your needs are, I'm sure
 the people here will be able to suggest the right Mac for you.
 
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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-25 Thread Jesse
It is not gonna facebook like you expect, or do anything more than simple photo 
editing or older games. Dont expect it to be like an intel mac. They are 
cool(the g3s) but underpowered for anything that is popular on the web today.  
Id bribg

M

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On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Eleni elen...@otenet.gr wrote:

 Thank you all for your replies.  My basic needs are internet browsing, Word 
 processor, excel, CD/DVD burning, photo editing and some games.
 
 Is the G3 sufficient?
 
 On Feb 25, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:
 
 Il giorno 25-02-2012 6:43, Eleni ha scritto:
 
 Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz under Mac OS 8.6?
 CDs, definitely.
 DVDs, I think you have to limit the max speed you're writing with - I don't
 think a G3/400 can hold 8x DVD writing, but 2x should be fine.
 
 How capable are these PowerMac G3 400MHz?  What if you have max memory
 installed (1GB)?
 
 Just saw one on ebay in mint condition, is it worth buying?
 Well, as always, it all depends on what you're going to do with it.
 
 I once had a Beige PowerMac G3/266 (later upgraded to 450 MHz and then 900
 MHz), and I absolutely LOVED IT. :-)
 It was a great machine, very stable and highly upgradable.
 OTOH, it would be useless for my needs now.
 
 Personally, I'd go for a G4 minimum: faster, more efficient architecture,
 more compatible with late software.
 But, again, it depends on YOU; if you state what your needs are, I'm sure
 the people here will be able to suggest the right Mac for you.
 
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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-25 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 Thank you all for your replies.  My basic needs are internet browsing, Word
 processor, excel, CD/DVD burning, photo editing and some games.
 
 Is the G3 sufficient?

I'd only consider an upper range G3 (at least 500MHz or more), and even
that will be constrained. I agree with Valter: get a G4. They are not much
more expensive, if at all, and even a mid-range G4 at around 1GHz will do
pretty well (I use a 1GHz Luxo iMac G4 as my secondary workstation, and while
it is no speed demon, it's good enough for most browsing tasks).

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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-25 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 25-02-2012 16:50, Eleni ha scritto:

 Thank you all for your replies.  My basic needs are internet browsing, Word
 processor, excel, CD/DVD burning, photo editing and some games.
 
 Is the G3 sufficient?

- Browsing: yes and no. On heavy sites, or full with scripts and the like,
it will be slw. If you have patience, it's ok. ;-)
(heck, I often found my G4 1,4 GHz slow while browsing - now with the G5 2,7
GHz it's fine)

- Word Processor and Excel: ok, maybe somehow slow on long/big docs.

- CD/DVD burning: ok
(with the limit aforementioned, not at the max possible speed)

- Photo editing: it depends on how big your pictures are.
If they are in the range of a common digital camera, it's ok (e.g.: a 5-10MB
picture is ok, a 100MB file would be slow)

- Games: that's the problem. If you mean older games from the 1990s, or 2D,
it might do (especially with a good graphic card).
If you mean newer 3D games, not really. 3D games are the heaviest apps,
performance-wise.

Keep in mind the old built-in graphic cards G3 and G4 had (like Ati Rage or
the like), had abysmal performance in gaming.
Beefier cards like the Radeon 9800 or the GeForce 4 Titanium, OTOH, handled
old 3D games quite well.

When I had the G3/450 with a 3Dfx Voodoo 3 2000, I played Unreal Tournament
good enough (not at the max quality setting). It's a year 2000 app, though.
With the G4 1,4 GHz and a GeForce 4 Ti 4600, I played such games as Halo,
Call of Duty, Star Trek Elite Force 2 (sometimes choppy but playable).

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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-25 Thread Wayne Stewart
It'll do what you ask provided you have the software. If you're
thinking of making DVDs with a camcorder then it'd technically do it
but you'd be looking at days to render a full length video. And that's
with regular video, you'd grow old waiting for it to render HD video

Unless it's a local ebay item that you can pick up I'd think that the
cost of buying and shipping it would be more than it's worth. In my
local craigslist there's lots of G5s for under $200 and lots of G4s
under $75. Plus you can try it out before you buy it.

On Feb 24, 9:43 pm, Eleni elen...@otenet.gr wrote:
 Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz under Mac OS 8.6?

 How capable are these PowerMac G3 400MHz?  What if you have max memory 
 installed (1GB)?

 Just saw one on ebay in mint condition, is it worth buying?

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Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?

2012-02-25 Thread Erik Harperink
Op 25 feb 2012, om 20:34 heeft Wayne Stewart het volgende geschreven:

 It'll do what you ask provided you have the software. If you're
 thinking of making DVDs with a camcorder then it'd technically do it
 but you'd be looking at days to render a full length video. And that's
 with regular video, you'd grow old waiting for it to render HD video
 
 Unless it's a local ebay item that you can pick up I'd think that the
 cost of buying and shipping it would be more than it's worth. In my
 local craigslist there's lots of G5s for under $200 and lots of G4s
 under $75. Plus you can try it out before you buy it.
 
 On Feb 24, 9:43 pm, Eleni elen...@otenet.gr wrote:
 Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz under Mac OS 8.6?
 
 How capable are these PowerMac G3 400MHz?  What if you have max memory 
 installed (1GB)?
 
 Just saw one on ebay in mint condition, is it worth buying?
 
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You could try Liquid CD. There are versions for 10.4 PPC / Intel and 10.5 and 
up PPC / Intel on http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/19994/liquidcd . I haven't 
seen anything yet for OS 8.6. Time to update your Mac OS version?

Erik

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