Re: Digest for g3-5...@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic
Legacy in this case means a version of the program that will also work on the machines of those of us who still run a 9.2.2 machine or two, due to hardware/driver compatibility issues with a critical legacy function. Is there a version of the program available that will work with these 'legacy OS machines? Thanks! On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:21:49 AM UTC-7, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On May 17, 2014, at 6:18 AM, Tom Singleton tsi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Disk Warrior. Yes I have heard of it. What is the best version (most trustworthy) of Disk Warrior? The current one. What types of operational needs are most common to use with DW? Disk warrior does one thing, and does it superbly: it fixes broken disk directory structures. That's all it does. It's not a 'daily use' tool. If disk utility cannot repair a disk I reach for disk warrior. Is the legacy version still available through the vendor or other channel? what do you mean 'legacy version'? The current version works on OS X 10.3.9 through 10.9. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Digest for g3-5...@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic
On May 19, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Click tsin...@gmail.com wrote: Legacy in this case means a version of the program that will also work on the machines of those of us who still run a 9.2.2 machine or two, due to hardware/driver compatibility issues with a critical legacy function. Is there a version of the program available that will work with these 'legacy OS machines? I would contact the manufacturer, rather than ask random people on a mailing list :-) They do offer updates for their older versions, so they may be willing to sell a copy http://www.alsoft.com/diskwarrior/supportdw21.html The more common term used for Mac OS 6-9 is 'Classic OS' or just specifying 'Mac OS' 7,8 or 9, no X involved. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Digest for g3-5...@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic
On May 19, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On May 19, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Click tsin...@gmail.com wrote: Legacy in this case means a version of the program that will also work on the machines of those of us who still run a 9.2.2 machine or two, due to hardware/driver compatibility issues with a critical legacy function. Is there a version of the program available that will work with these 'legacy OS machines? I would contact the manufacturer, rather than ask random people on a mailing list :-) They do offer updates for their older versions, so they may be willing to sell a copy http://www.alsoft.com/diskwarrior/supportdw21.html The more common term used for Mac OS 6-9 is 'Classic OS' or just specifying 'Mac OS' 7,8 or 9, no X involved. You beat me to it, Bruce. Yes, the first and best source of information about DiskWarrior is the manufacturer, Here's a link to Alsoft's system requirements page: http://www.alsoft.com/diskwarrior/requirements.html As can be seen quickly by browsing that page, there are a lot of tricky things to figure out when trying to run the various versions of DiskWarrior on various versions of Mac OS. What you really want to do is to boot a Mac from the proper DiskWarrior CD or DVD so it can work its magic unimpeded by anything else. I sometimes run DiskWarrior from my main desktop iMac on another Mac via Firewire cable, but only when I want a quick fix. I use DiskWarrior 3.0.3 for OS 9 through OS 10.4 Macs that are set up as dual-boot machines. I use DiskWarrior 4.1 on OS X 10.5 machines, DW 4.2 on OS X 10.6 machines, and DiskWarrior 4.4 (the current version) on 10.7 through 10.9 machines. If Mac OS's Disk Utility cannot repair a drive, I boot from the appropriate DiskWarrior disk and let DW do its special magic. As Bruce noted earlier, DiskWarrior only repairs directories. It cannot perform magical repairs on disks suffering from hardware-related issues, such as bad sectors or slow reads/writes. However, I have learned from experience that if a hard drive that has been fixed by running DiskWarrior begins to have troubles again, it's a sign of either a failing hard drive or of improper shutdowns by the user. If DW finds and fixes volume information errors more than once, I begin to suspect improper Mac shutdowns by the user while the OS was still doing things. For example, I once was called into a local middle school's Mac lab, where half of the 36 iMacs would not boot properly, if at all. At first, I thought I was going to have to reinstall OS X 10.4, but after I ran DW on the first iMac, it booted and ran perfectly. Not much was found wrong and corrected, other than incorrect volume information. As I continued on through the rest of the iMacs, each one came back to life after DW corrected volume information errors. During the 20 or so hours I spent in that Mac lab that week, often taking apart the slot-loading iMacs to remove everything from tiny circuit boards to paper clips and sticky notes with Help me! written on them from CD drives, I discovered why DW was finding so many volume information errors. Several teachers who had come in with their classes were instructing their students to pull the power plug so as to shut down their iMacs when the end of class time bell rang! No wonder I had to go back and redo several of the first iMacs I had run DW on. On the other hand, if the Mac is being treated properly and is shut down correctly yet still is having problems that are fixed by running DW more than once, I immediately suspect the hard drive has bad sectors or other problems. At that point I pull out Prosoft's Drive Genius 3 (www.prosoftengineering.com) and boot the Mac from that disk. If a hard drive keeps having problems after Disk Warrior has repaired it, Drive Genius almost always finds either bad sectors or integrity (slow read/write) issues. Cheers! Jim Scott Eureka, CA -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Digest for g3-5...@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic
On 5/19/14 11:34 AM, Click wrote: Legacy in this case means a version of the program that will also work on the machines of those of us who still run a 9.2.2 machine or two, due to hardware/driver compatibility issues with a critical legacy function. Is there a version of the program available that will work with these 'legacy OS machines? I'm pretty sure there's a version of Disk Warrior which works on 9.2.2 machines and I thought I had one (since I also still have one 9.2.2 machine), but I don't see it in my disk storage. I do see Techtool Pro, which was definitely useful in those days. I have version 3.0.1 which I have marked as OK up to 9.1, so you'll want to scare up a later version if you want to try that. I didn't look back in the thread beyond this subject line so I don't know the exact nature of your problem and therefore can't say whether Techtool will do the trick for you or not. We used Norton until it got squirrelly, then switched to Techtool, then to DiskWarrior. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Digest for g3-5...@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic
They do offer updates for their older versions, so they may be willing to sell a copy http://www.alsoft.com/diskwarrior/supportdw21.html They do still sell it; I purchased one a few months ago. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Watch out, Citizens. Marx's tomb is a communist plot. -- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Manager Comment] Re: Digest for g3-5...@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic
On May 19, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: They do offer updates for their older versions, so they may be willing to sell a copy http://www.alsoft.com/diskwarrior/supportdw21.html They do still sell it; I purchased one a few months ago. Group Members: If this thread will go on for a while, would someone change the Subject away from Re: Digest for g3-5...@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 1 topic, the worst meaningless possible. As Bruce succinctly pointed out: I would contact the manufacturer, rather than ask random people on a mailing list. So far the responses provided by helpful random people have contained mostly information from the Alsoft website, which the OP could have readily found for himself. Fabian Fang LEM G-Group Manager -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
