Re: G5 and ADC
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G5 and ADC Date:Thursday, 03. May 2012 From:a1 arichic...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com So it would seem that the most powerful G5 I could get and keep using ADC with no adapter is this one: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_2.5_dp. html Anyone have an opinion on it? Any reason to drop down in my search for a lesser model? Yes: avoid liquid cooling systems (LCS). The 2.5 GHz Dual processors system (Mid 2004) is liquid cooled, as is the 2.7 GHz Dual (Early 2005) and the 2.5 GHz Dual-Core Dual i.e. Quad (Late 2005, PCIe). You definitely want to avoid this: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/G5_coolant_leaks.html I highly recommend getting an air cooled system (which is any other then those mentioned above). Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
At least thru the June 2004 G5s. I have the lowest dp1.8 and have use an Apple studio display think it phased out soon thereafter. I don't show it for l;ate 2005 G5s On May 2, 2012, at 2:15 AM, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: I am finding some confusing, conflicting information online so I just want a clear definitive answer: I thought all G5's supported and had an ADC port. I currently have an older Apple Studio Display I really like, using it with a G4 DA. If I upgrade to a G5, I want to use this same monitor. So which G5's DON'T SUPPORT ADC? Given that I want a G5 with ADC, which would be the best one to get? Reliability would be the top priority, then lower power consumption. While I am posting, let me also ask if the G4 MDD all support ADC. Did any MDD come with USB 2? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
Il giorno 3-05-2012 7:56, a1 ha scritto: So it would seem that the most powerful G5 I could get and keep using ADC with no adapter is this one: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_2.5_dp.h tm Keep in mind that - AFAIK - the ADC capability is not of the computer itself, but of the graphic card. And graphic cards can be substituted. Thus, if you're going to buy a G5, check which graphic card is installed on it. (I know, it sounds obvious but... just in case... ;-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
On May 3, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 3-05-2012 7:56, a1 ha scritto: So it would seem that the most powerful G5 I could get and keep using ADC with no adapter is this one: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_2.5_dp.h tm Keep in mind that - AFAIK - the ADC capability is not of the computer itself, but of the graphic card. And graphic cards can be substituted. It is a matter for both the computer and graphics cards. The computer has to supply power for the monitor to the graphics card and the card has to pass the power on to the monitor, along with the Video, USB and what ever else. You can tell, visually, if the computer does by an extra set of pins away from the AGP connector. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 and ADC
I am finding some confusing, conflicting information online so I just want a clear definitive answer: I thought all G5's supported and had an ADC port. I currently have an older Apple Studio Display I really like, using it with a G4 DA. If I upgrade to a G5, I want to use this same monitor. So which G5's DON'T SUPPORT ADC? Given that I want a G5 with ADC, which would be the best one to get? Reliability would be the top priority, then lower power consumption. While I am posting, let me also ask if the G4 MDD all support ADC. Did any MDD come with USB 2? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
On May 2, 2012, at 2:15 AM, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: I am finding some confusing, conflicting information online so I just want a clear definitive answer: I thought all G5's supported and had an ADC port. I currently have an older Apple Studio Display I really like, using it with a G4 DA. If I upgrade to a G5, I want to use this same monitor. So which G5's DON'T SUPPORT ADC? Given that I want a G5 with ADC, which would be the best one to get? Reliability would be the top priority, then lower power consumption. The only G5 versions that do not support ADC are the Late 2005 water- cooled with PCIe 16-lane video. All the other G5's from the original to the Early 2005 are air-cooled and have AGP video slots that support ADC. None are good for power consumption, and since the earlier single CPU versions had lower wattage power supplies, the early versions will have the lowest power consumption, and the slowest speed. Generally speaking the Early 2005 units are considered to be reliable and will support ADC if they have an AGP video card with an ADC port. Video cards with ADC ports generally sell at a discount to ones lacking an ADC port because most people don't use ADC and would rather have two DVI ports for modern LCD displays. While I am posting, let me also ask if the G4 MDD all support ADC. Did any MDD come with USB 2? No. You can add USB 2 with a PCI card very inexpensively. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
-- Original message -- Subject: G5 and ADC Date:Wednesday, 02. May 2012 From:arichic...@gmail.com arichic...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I am finding some confusing, conflicting information online so I just want a clear definitive answer: I thought all G5's supported and had an ADC port. I currently have an older Apple Studio Display I really like, using it with a G4 DA. If I upgrade to a G5, I want to use this same monitor. So which G5's DON'T SUPPORT ADC? Given that I want a G5 with ADC, which would be the best one to get? Reliability would be the top priority, then lower power consumption. A list of all Power Mac G5s: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/index-powermac-g5.html Power Mac G5 with ADC: 1) the original G5 (2003, one is also referred to as Late 2003) 2) Mid 2004 3) Late 2004 Power Mac G5 WITHOUT ADC, but PCI/PCI-X: 1) Early 2005 AFAIK the system board of these models doesn't have an ADC connector, so you cannot even use a card from a previous model with ADC in an Early 2005. Power Mac G5 without ADC, PCI-Express: 1) Late 2005 The Late 2005 uses a completely different internal bus, PCI-Express (PCIe) instead of PCI (and PCI-X, which is fully compatible to PCI). The Early 2005 and the Late 2005 models feature Dual-DVI. Pre-2005 models have ADC and DVI. This list may help you: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/faq/powermac-g5-adc-ports-dvi-ports-resolutions-supported.html While I am posting, let me also ask if the G4 MDD all support ADC. Did any MDD come with USB 2? AFAIK all G4 MDDs and FW800s had ADC. No G4 had USB 2.0, the first to have USB 2.0 is the Power Mac G5. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
While I am posting, let me also ask if the G4 MDD all support ADC. Did any MDD come with USB 2? AFAIK all G4 MDDs and FW800s had ADC. No G4 had USB 2.0, the first to have USB 2.0 is the Power Mac G5. No *MDD* had USB 2.0. However, the later iMac G4s did. These iMac G4s cannot boot OS 9 (I have one of them). -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Jesus loves you, and I'm trying to. -- Jack Thompson --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
You could pick up an Apple ADC to DVI adapter, then you could use the display with almost any Mac. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
Guys, the DVI and ADC connectors are almost the same. There are cheap (~$20) adapters. I see no reason to buy another video card just to plug some other monitor into it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
On May 2, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Douglas Mencken wrote: Guys, the DVI and ADC connectors are almost the same. There are cheap (~$20) adapters. I see no reason to buy another video card just to plug some other monitor into it. Those cheap adapters go from ADC output to DVI monitor, enabling the use of a DVI monitor on an ADC port. DVI output to ADC monitor, is a whole 'nother kettle of horses of a different color. There you're getting into $$$ DVIators and such. This is why ADC monitors are dirt cheap, they're well-nigh useless. (Thank Jobs Apple FINALLY decided to get out of the nonsensical 'making up our own connectors' stuff. They're still on the 'lets use standard connectors that nobody else in the world uses', but that's at least something that can change in time.) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G5 and ADC Date:Wednesday, 02. May 2012 From:Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com While I am posting, let me also ask if the G4 MDD all support ADC. Did any MDD come with USB 2? AFAIK all G4 MDDs and FW800s had ADC. No G4 had USB 2.0, the first to have USB 2.0 is the Power Mac G5. No *MDD* had USB 2.0. However, the later iMac G4s did. These iMac G4s cannot boot OS 9 (I have one of them). You're right of course. I was thinking about Power Mac G4. The PowerBook G4 starting with the September 2003 (PowerBook5,3) as well as the iBook G4 (starting October 2003, PowerBook6,3) also feature USB 2.0. The eMac from April 2004 (PowerMac6,4) and its successor from May 2005 (same model ID) also have USB 2.0. And, as you correctly state, the iMac G4 from September 2003 (PowerMac6,1) and from November 2003 (PowerMac6,3) also have USB 2.0, as well as all iMac G5 models. I should have phrased this more clearly. Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
Sent from an iPhone, but is it mine? On May 2, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Douglas Mencken dougmenc...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, the DVI and ADC connectors are almost the same. There are cheap (~$20) adapters. I see no reason to buy another video card just to plug some other monitor into it. To plug an ADC monitor into a DVI port you need more than a simple adapter, you need a 28V, 4 A power supply too. And perhaps some more stuff too. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
On May 2, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: This is why ADC monitors are dirt cheap, they're well-nigh useless. Amen. I see 4x3 aspect ratio LCD monitors for dirt cheap, say $20 for a 17 that's 1280x1024, a little more for a 19 or larger. Small 16x9 LCD are cheap used also, people often upgrade a computer and use it with their HDTV or something, so I can't see any reason to not recycle an ADC monitor. The OP was asking about energy efficiency of G5's, when an LCD monitor at retail will pay for itself in energy savings in 3 years, and a used one in a few short months. From an energy efficiency standpoint LCD monitors are a no-brainer. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
Well then I'll take all of them you guys want to recycle ;) The greater the animal, the greater the man On May 2, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On May 2, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: This is why ADC monitors are dirt cheap, they're well-nigh useless. Amen. I see 4x3 aspect ratio LCD monitors for dirt cheap, say $20 for a 17 that's 1280x1024, a little more for a 19 or larger. Small 16x9 LCD are cheap used also, people often upgrade a computer and use it with their HDTV or something, so I can't see any reason to not recycle an ADC monitor. The OP was asking about energy efficiency of G5's, when an LCD monitor at retail will pay for itself in energy savings in 3 years, and a used one in a few short months. From an energy efficiency standpoint LCD monitors are a no-brainer. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
-- Original message -- Subject: G5 and ADC Date:Wednesday, 02. May 2012 From:arichic...@gmail.com arichic...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I am finding some confusing, conflicting information online so I just want a clear definitive answer: I thought all G5's supported and had an ADC port. Mac User #330250 wrote: Power Mac G5 with ADC: 1) the original G5 (2003, one is also referred to as Late 2003) 2) Mid 2004 3) Late 2004 Power Mac G5 WITHOUT ADC, but PCI/PCI-X: 1) Early 2005 AFAIK the system board of these models doesn't have an ADC connector, so you cannot even use a card from a previous model with ADC in an Early 2005. Thanks to everyone who responded. The Apple Studio monitor I am using is the LCD type, and it is the brightest nicest monitor I have used on a desktop. It is better than the monitor in my imac G4, which I thought was extraordinary. I am picky about the visual presentation because I have had some visual issues. I am looking to upgrade on the very cheap and hence do not want to replace the monitor--especially if it would involve a generic downgrade. In my area of Chicago, a G5 can be had for around $100 if the seller understands what he has, and a MDD can be had for about $60. I had been leaning towards a G5 because my ipod touch seems to require not only USB 2 but 10.5. But now, it seems I am more likely to find a MDD to go with my ADC monitor. I also use the Apple Pro speakers and do not think they work with a G5. So it would seem that the most powerful G5 I could get and keep using ADC with no adapter is this one: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_2.5_dp.html Anyone have an opinion on it? Any reason to drop down in my search for a lesser model? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
