Re: MySpace.
Nestamicky wrote: On 22/04/10 1:59 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: We manage all computer surplusing for the College. The newest Mac that's *ever* come through here was a 400 MHz Sawtooth with no drive, memory or power supply. If a prof decides to get a newer Mac it goes to a student or instrument in their lab. Don't you guys have a policy that prevents people from stripping machines. I've seen a laptop where the prof/Phd student., perhaps in wanting a newer machine, disconnected the video cable going from the mainboard to the display and turned the unit in for repairs. A new machine as given. The memory, along with the HD were gone. And that was against the rules. It really sucks when you buy a pallet of computers at a auction and the HDs, trays/brackets and ram are gone. We had one local school drilling thru the bottom of the iMac thru the cd/dvd and then the HD. They finally bought a big magnet, but I haven't got my hands on one of those drives to try them. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On Apr 25, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: It really sucks when you buy a pallet of computers at a auction and the HDs, trays/brackets and ram are gone. I don't know about other places, but our surplus forms are always accurately marked as to condition., and they almost always say gutted. We use damn near everything until there's nothing left to lose (one of the BW's we surplused went out sans the top handles because another G4 we were working had broken ones.) -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On 4/22/10 10:30 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:15 AM, John Niven wrote: I think my companies @#$%^ IT guys are spoiling my fun! Yep, it's what we IT folks live for. :-) I used to be able to listen to mine and others musical efforts on myspace at work. Now the music just never plays (it's Flash based). Is it possible that they have put a block on it? I checked, and got the same, on my company supplied WinXP DULL machine, so it's not the usual flash problem. Anything is possible, modern network traffic shaping tools will let you apply highly intricate usage rules, like 'No streaming music from MySpace' Is there another way to access the music, or do HAVE to do some work? :-) A lot of companies are blocking access to various sites that employees hit a lot but don't have any business purpose. Funny how companies want their employees to work for them. :) But another reason stuff gets blocked is due to bandwidth load. One streamed video times how many employees turns in to some major MBps. And while audio isn't nearly as heavy they (IT they) might lump it in with the video and block all of it. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Re: MySpace.
--- On Fri, 4/23/10, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: A lot of companies are blocking access to various sites that employees hit a lot but don't have any business purpose. Funny how companies want their employees to work for them. :) Even cows get some music when they are being milked :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On Apr 23, 2010, at 6:49 AM, John Niven wrote: --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: A lot of companies are blocking access to various sites that employees hit a lot but don't have any business purpose. Funny how companies want their employees to work for them. :) Even cows get some music when they are being milked :-) But they don't get to choose the music. Be careful what you wish for, you might get someone who decides that Bangladeshi folk music is Just The Thing. (Happened one time in a lab I worked in, one PhD was from there and was playing some traditional Bangladeshi music. To the untrained ear, this sounds like a cat being strangled, slowly, over a fire, fed through a feedback loop. With sitars accompanying. As opposed, of course to the melodious, soothing sounds of Death Metal, Country Western, Slim Whitman, AOR or bagpipes that the rest of us liked, of course We would occasionally have interesting Radio Wars in that lab. :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Apr 23, 2010, at 6:49 AM, John Niven wrote: --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: A lot of companies are blocking access to various sites that employees hit a lot but don't have any business purpose. Funny how companies want their employees to work for them. :) Even cows get some music when they are being milked :-) But they don't get to choose the music. Be careful what you wish for, you might get someone who decides that Bangladeshi folk music is Just The Thing. (Happened one time in a lab I worked in, one PhD was from there and was playing some traditional Bangladeshi music. To the untrained ear, this sounds like a cat being strangled, slowly, over a fire, fed through a feedback loop. With sitars accompanying. As opposed, of course to the melodious, soothing sounds of Death Metal, Country Western, Slim Whitman, AOR or bagpipes that the rest of us liked, of course We would occasionally have interesting Radio Wars in that lab. :-) Our Starbucks on the corner by the university often has all of that music in one night ! The barista use it to control the customers ~ That's my theory. I'm sticking with it. They easily control all of the music and sometimes if they aren't as busy get very creative with the mix. It is all music provided by the corporation. Starbucks owns the rights of distribution to a huge variety of genres. Some combinations can form really strange juxtapositions. Recently I heard a Bollywood theme ( cats in heat ) backed with Stand By Your Man ( country chicks in heat ? ). When it gets after 10 and the crew has had a hard and steamy night at the espresso machine they put on music gauged to move out the crowd so they can get their cleaning done easily and get home. Urging all Mac and PC surfers and cyber-ludites alike out of the store. And late night ITs fill their huge travel mugs one more time. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On 4/23/10 12:05 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 23, 2010, at 6:49 AM, John Niven wrote: --- On Fri, 4/23/10, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: A lot of companies are blocking access to various sites that employees hit a lot but don't have any business purpose. Funny how companies want their employees to work for them. :) Even cows get some music when they are being milked :-) But they don't get to choose the music. Be careful what you wish for, you might get someone who decides that Bangladeshi folk music is Just The Thing. (Happened one time in a lab I worked in, one PhD was from there and was playing some traditional Bangladeshi music. To the untrained ear, this sounds like a cat being strangled, slowly, over a fire, fed through a feedback loop. With sitars accompanying. As opposed, of course to the melodious, soothing sounds of Death Metal, Country Western, Slim Whitman, AOR or bagpipes that the rest of us liked, of course We would occasionally have interesting Radio Wars in that lab. :-) When the company I used to work for put in a new phone system there was reportedly a major war going on at high levels over the choice of hold music. Can you imagine what would have happened if we had elevator music (if we had elevators). It goes along with my theory about the freedom of technology. When engineering says there are two ways to build something, use-able but not even close to ideal or... worse it's real simple to figure out what gets built. But then technology comes along and lets you make it in many ways, all much better than it's predecessor. At that point management starts pouring out of the walls with ideas and suggestions. It makes one long for the good old use-able version. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On 22/04/10 12:17 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Folks dragging new toys are shocked when they come to us and say help us get X going. And we look at them, take the device from their hands, and say Okay, I've now held on of these things in my hands for a total of five seconds in my life. How do you expect me to know everything about it? Believe it or not I've gotten the serious answer Oh you don't have one of these already?? I thought you IT guys ALWAYS had the latest and greatest toys! This is oh, so true. I wonder how people come to think that IT folks play with the latest toys. They probably associate the IT guy with the neighborhood geek. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On 22/04/10 1:59 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: We manage all computer surplusing for the College. The newest Mac that's *ever* come through here was a 400 MHz Sawtooth with no drive, memory or power supply. If a prof decides to get a newer Mac it goes to a student or instrument in their lab. Don't you guys have a policy that prevents people from stripping machines. I've seen a laptop where the prof/Phd student., perhaps in wanting a newer machine, disconnected the video cable going from the mainboard to the display and turned the unit in for repairs. A new machine as given. The memory, along with the HD were gone. And that was against the rules. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On 23/04/10 1:05 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: We would occasionally have interesting Radio Wars in that lab. The best working policy that I've seen is to not have music at all. Or, ring it directly into your ear, from your iPod, walkman or discman. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On 4/23/10 12:05 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Be careful what you wish for, you might get someone who decides that Bangladeshi folk music is Just The Thing. (Happened one time in a lab I worked in, one PhD was from there and was playing some traditional Bangladeshi music. To the untrained ear, this sounds like a cat being strangled, slowly, over a fire, fed through a feedback loop. With sitars accompanying. Thanks a lot Bruce. Now I have to clean my monitor because of the cranberry juice that shot out of my nose in laughter at your post. Basting. --- The first time Microsoft produces something that doesn't suck will be when they start making vacuum cleaners --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On 4/23/10 6:30 PM, Dan wrote: At 9:15 AM -0700 4/22/2010, John Niven wrote: I think my companies @#$%^ IT guys are spoiling my fun! I used to be able to listen to mine and others musical efforts on myspace at work. Now the music just never plays (it's Flash based). Is it possible that they have put a block on it? I checked, and got the same, on my company supplied WinXP DULL machine, so it's not the usual flash problem. Yes, it's quite possible that they've blocked it. Frankly, you should be working while at work, not surfing social networking web sites. Now be a good little worker: thank your boss for the elevator muzak and get back to work! You know, IT people typically don't get ordered to ban stuff until there's a problem. In your spare time, you might want to hunt down the putz that ruined it for all of you, and thank him/her/it in some creative way. Superglue is inexpensive. C4 is more expensive but, oh, so much more satisfying. It depends on the IT people and management. Some IT people will pretty much do as they please if they know management won't say not to it (usually due to them being clueless). -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On Apr 23, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Nestamicky wrote: Don't you guys have a policy that prevents people from stripping machines. I've seen a laptop where the prof/Phd student., perhaps in wanting a newer machine, disconnected the video cable going from the mainboard to the display and turned the unit in for repairs. A new machine as given. The memory, along with the HD were gone. And that was against the rules. Nope, it's their grant money, they get to spend it as they wish. Besides, the Mac in question was an organ donor. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:15 AM, John Niven wrote: I think my companies @#$%^ IT guys are spoiling my fun! Yep, it's what we IT folks live for. :-) I used to be able to listen to mine and others musical efforts on myspace at work. Now the music just never plays (it's Flash based). Is it possible that they have put a block on it? I checked, and got the same, on my company supplied WinXP DULL machine, so it's not the usual flash problem. Anything is possible, modern network traffic shaping tools will let you apply highly intricate usage rules, like 'No streaming music from MySpace' Is there another way to access the music, or do HAVE to do some work? :-) This is what iPods are for... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On Apr 22, 2010, at 10:51 AM, John Niven wrote: To be fair, in one of my previous companies, the IT guy gave me a fixed ip address so I could put my Classic II on the lan (no dchp) via an scsi-to-ethernet converter :-) I used it as a terminal. Cool. But the current bunch won't (officially) let Macs on at all! I'll have to buy a 3G version of the iPad to use it at work ?? This makes no sense... This is the kind of damage hackers have done to the world. This has absolutely nothing to do with hackers and EVERYTHING to do with the crippling personal insecurities that many IT bosses and other PHB's have for learning anything other than their Windows career security blanket. Back in the day, it was said No one ever got fired for specifying IBM when those upstart, dangerous personal computers first came on the scene. Now it's No one ever got fired for specifying Microsoft. However, in the main, there are two main reasons IT folks will issue blanket prohibitions on things: 1) The department is run and staffed by Microsoft Jihadists who hate anything different. -or- 2) It's new/different, we're short-staffed, and we don't have time to learn and support these things on top of all the other things we currently do, and make sure it doesn't break what we already can barely keep running with the spit, bubble gum and used duct tape that is all our budget allows us. Folks dragging new toys are shocked when they come to us and say help us get X going. And we look at them, take the device from their hands, and say Okay, I've now held on of these things in my hands for a total of five seconds in my life. How do you expect me to know everything about it? Believe it or not I've gotten the serious answer Oh you don't have one of these already?? I thought you IT guys ALWAYS had the latest and greatest toys! I have a 4-year-old first-gen Intel iMac that I ONLY got because the faculty member for whom it was purchased had no need or interest in using a Mac, otherwise I'd probably still be using the 800 Mhz upgraded Sawtooth we still use as our Mac test machine as my main desktop. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: 2) It's new/different, we're short-staffed, and we don't have time to learn and support these things on top of all the other things we currently do, and make sure it doesn't break what we already can barely keep running with the spit, bubble gum and used duct tape that is all our budget allows us. That sounds fair. That and the fact that they get no more money to provide for everyone and the headaches involved. I have a 4-year-old first-gen Intel iMac that I ONLY got because the faculty member for whom it was purchased had no need or interest in using a Mac, otherwise I'd probably still be using the 800 Mhz upgraded Sawtooth we still use as our Mac test machine as my main desktop. The local U has budget concerns but I know a dept with Mac/PC . The IT head that replaced his Quicksilver with an old cast off Mac Pro. He also wears a rakish straw cowboy hat every day. Perks of the job. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: We manage all computer surplusing for the College. The newest Mac that's *ever* come through here was a 400 MHz Sawtooth with no drive, memory or power supply. If a prof decides to get a newer Mac it goes to a student or instrument in their lab. __ Here there has long been an Apple Store in the Art department. There are some iMacs mixed with PCs in building labs around campus. the library has a few scattered macs. Mostly for media work. The college of mass media is about 99% mac. With lots of Mac Pros in classrooms and huge RAIDs on fiberchannel. The NLE edit suite machines are awesome. But the audio prof has stuck with a couple of Quicksilvers (?). -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Apr 22, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Here there has long been an Apple Store in the Art department. There are some iMacs mixed with PCs in building labs around campus. the library has a few scattered macs. Mostly for media work. Lots of Macs on campus, and our bookstore is also an Apple store, too, but we're about a half-mile away by the hospital on the Health Sciences Campus. We're getting to be more and more mac all the time, in the last three days two more professors have told us or inquired about switching. More and more of our students have nice MacBooks and MacBook pros and iPhones have become damn near ubiquitous. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MySpace.
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: We're getting to be more and more mac all the time, in the last three days two more professors have told us or inquired about switching. More and more of our students have nice MacBooks and MacBook pros and iPhones have become damn near ubiquitous. Ah, had I only the clean and backed up credit of the students ! -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list