Re: Need help installing and booting OS9 on G4 Quicksilver 2002

2016-01-18 Thread Bruce Johnson

> On Jan 17, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Brad Wait  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I just bought a used G4 quicksilver 2002 power mac (this one:  
> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powermac_g4_1ghz_dp_qs.html).
>   
> 
> I want it to boot from OS9, and I don't really need to run OSX.  I thought 
> this would be simple to set up, but apparently not. 
> 
> Unfortunately, I bought this used without any install CDs. For the seller's 
> privacy, I wiped the hard disk by connecting the G4 via firewire to my OSX 
> laptop, and using the latest disk utility.  This wiped any OS9 drivers from 
> the disk. The newer OSX disk utility would not let me install the OS9 drivers 
> on the reformatted drives. There is no 'install OS9 drivers' checkbox. 
> 
> Two questions:
> 
>   • IF I can find a bootable OS9 installer CD, will it install the OS9 
> drivers automatically to the reformatted hard drive?  Or, will it not be able 
> to see the drive at all when it boots up?  

OS X and OS 9 used the same disk format, so there is no issue there. The 
installer CD will set the proper boot sector stuff to boot into OS 9 as part if 
the installation.

>   • I need help getting a bootable OS9 CD.  I found several ISOs online 
> that I burned to a CD using my OSX laptop. But none of ISOs appear to be 
> bootable on the G4.  I am stumped as to why this doesn't work. Here are the 
> ones I have tried:  
>   • 
> http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/power-mac-g4-quicksilver-2002-restore-discs 
>   • http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2109.0
> Anyone have suggestions?

I think you may need to use the Restore disks, not the 9.2 disk. The QS2002 
requires 9.2.2, as it was the last Mac to boot into OS 9.

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Re: Need help installing and booting OS9 on G4 Quicksilver 2002

2016-01-18 Thread Tim Martin
This is do-able - I've got a QS & a QS 2002 - 800 (upgraded to dual 1.8)
that I rebuilt and upgraded with no original software disks ... it's just I
cannot recall now quite how I did it - and I did have bootable external
HD's and removeable drives (2G Jaz) backups

1) read up and check on the partition scheme appropriate for booting OS 9

2) If you have access to  second classic booting machine put the QS into
target disk mode and connect by firewire - do the installs from the second
machine ?

keep us posted - it's a great machine - my hickey has been failing power
supplies ... with maxed out machines - replacements can prove prohibitive.




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On 18 January 2016 at 03:36, Brad Wait  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I just bought a used G4 quicksilver 2002 power mac (this one:
> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powermac_g4_1ghz_dp_qs.html).
>
>
> I want it to boot from OS9, and I don't really need to run OSX.  I thought
> this would be simple to set up, but apparently not.
>
> Unfortunately, I bought this used without any install CDs. For the
> seller's privacy, I wiped the hard disk by connecting the G4 via firewire
> to my OSX laptop, and using the latest disk utility.  This wiped any OS9
> drivers from the disk. The newer OSX disk utility would not let me install
> the OS9 drivers on the reformatted drives. There is no 'install OS9
> drivers' checkbox.
>
> Two questions:
>
>
>1. IF I can find a bootable OS9 installer CD, will it install the OS9
>drivers automatically to the reformatted hard drive?  Or, will it not be
>able to see the drive at all when it boots up?
>2. I need help getting a bootable OS9 CD.  I found several ISOs online
>that I burned to a CD using my OSX laptop. But none of ISOs appear to be
>bootable on the G4.  I am stumped as to why this doesn't work. Here are the
>ones I have tried:
>
>
>-
>   
> http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/power-mac-g4-quicksilver-2002-restore-discs
>
>   - http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2109.0
>
> Anyone have suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> -Brad
>
>
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Re: Need help installing and booting OS9 on G4 Quicksilver 2002

2016-01-18 Thread Frank Dutra
If memory serves, and it often doesn't, the install disks are machine
specific. Might want to try a generic OSX disk that supports classic,
ie Panther, Tiger, and use the OS9 folder and drivers included.

On 1/17/16, Brad Wait  wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just bought a used G4 quicksilver 2002 power mac (this one:
> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powermac_g4_1ghz_dp_qs.html).
>
>
>
> I want it to boot from OS9, and I don't really need to run OSX.  I thought
> this would be simple to set up, but apparently not.
>
> Unfortunately, I bought this used without any install CDs. For the seller's
>
> privacy, I wiped the hard disk by connecting the G4 via firewire to my OSX
> laptop, and using the latest disk utility.  This wiped any OS9 drivers from
>
> the disk. The newer OSX disk utility would not let me install the OS9
> drivers on the reformatted drives. There is no 'install OS9 drivers'
> checkbox.
>
> Two questions:
>
>
>1. IF I can find a bootable OS9 installer CD, will it install the OS9
>drivers automatically to the reformatted hard drive?  Or, will it not be
>
>able to see the drive at all when it boots up?
>2. I need help getting a bootable OS9 CD.  I found several ISOs online
>that I burned to a CD using my OSX laptop. But none of ISOs appear to be
>
>bootable on the G4.  I am stumped as to why this doesn't work. Here are
> the
>ones I have tried:
>
>
>-
>
> http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/power-mac-g4-quicksilver-2002-restore-discs
>
>   - http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2109.0
>
> Anyone have suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> -Brad
>
>
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Need help installing and booting OS9 on G4 Quicksilver 2002

2016-01-17 Thread Brad Wait
Hi

I just bought a used G4 quicksilver 2002 power mac (this one: 
 
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powermac_g4_1ghz_dp_qs.html).
 
 

I want it to boot from OS9, and I don't really need to run OSX.  I thought 
this would be simple to set up, but apparently not. 

Unfortunately, I bought this used without any install CDs. For the seller's 
privacy, I wiped the hard disk by connecting the G4 via firewire to my OSX 
laptop, and using the latest disk utility.  This wiped any OS9 drivers from 
the disk. The newer OSX disk utility would not let me install the OS9 
drivers on the reformatted drives. There is no 'install OS9 drivers' 
checkbox. 

Two questions:


   1. IF I can find a bootable OS9 installer CD, will it install the OS9 
   drivers automatically to the reformatted hard drive?  Or, will it not be 
   able to see the drive at all when it boots up?  
   2. I need help getting a bootable OS9 CD.  I found several ISOs online 
   that I burned to a CD using my OSX laptop. But none of ISOs appear to be 
   bootable on the G4.  I am stumped as to why this doesn't work. Here are the 
   ones I have tried:  
   

   - 
  
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/power-mac-g4-quicksilver-2002-restore-discs 
  - http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2109.0
   
Anyone have suggestions?

Thanks
-Brad


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