Re: Another RAM Question

[PeterH]

On Sep 25, 2008, at 5:18 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

>>   The -8 is on PC100 memory modules and that makes sense for two
>> reasons.

-75 is PC133.



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Re: Another RAM Question

[Stephen Conrad]

Thanks!
I'll just leave them in the PII.
At least now I know (roughly) how much RAM it has in it.

On 9/25/08, Ralph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>   I went through some SDRAM DIMMs I had as spares and found some similar
> chips.  They are not exactly the same, but I can almost certainly give
> you part of the information about your memory.
>   The -8 is on PC100 memory modules and that makes sense for two
> reasons.  80 nanoseconds plus a little overhead would be right for a 100
> MHz bus.  And P2 chips only supported 2 bus speeds.  Well, other bus
> speeds were supported, but depending on the specific chips, there were
> two maximum speeds.  They were either 66 MHz or 100 MHz.  My similar
> modules were made by Infineon in Germany.  My similar modules are 64 meg
> DIMMs and have 8 chips.  So, I would guess yours are 32 meg modules.
> The largest DIMMs I have seen P2 chipsets support were 128 MEG.
>   So, I agree with the other assessment.  Throw this away and get 256
> meg PC133 modules for your G4.
> Good luck,
> Ralph
>
> On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 21:06 -0500, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>> Ooops, up the end of the chip it says
>> E04936
>> Board says this: 16-00640A  Rev.A
>> It is out of a Gateway Pentium II
>> > Siemens
>> > HYB39S63160AT-8
>> > Germany  A  E814936
>> >
>
>
> >
>


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Re: Another RAM Question

[Ralph]

Howdy,
  I went through some SDRAM DIMMs I had as spares and found some similar
chips.  They are not exactly the same, but I can almost certainly give
you part of the information about your memory.
  The -8 is on PC100 memory modules and that makes sense for two
reasons.  80 nanoseconds plus a little overhead would be right for a 100
MHz bus.  And P2 chips only supported 2 bus speeds.  Well, other bus
speeds were supported, but depending on the specific chips, there were
two maximum speeds.  They were either 66 MHz or 100 MHz.  My similar
modules were made by Infineon in Germany.  My similar modules are 64 meg
DIMMs and have 8 chips.  So, I would guess yours are 32 meg modules.
The largest DIMMs I have seen P2 chipsets support were 128 MEG.
  So, I agree with the other assessment.  Throw this away and get 256
meg PC133 modules for your G4.
Good luck,
Ralph

On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 21:06 -0500, Stephen Conrad wrote:
> Ooops, up the end of the chip it says
> E04936
> Board says this: 16-00640A  Rev.A
> It is out of a Gateway Pentium II
> > Siemens
> > HYB39S63160AT-8
> > Germany  A  E814936
> >


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Re: Another RAM Question

[Stephen Conrad]

I believe the other RAM stick in the PII was a 64M PC100 DIMM
Either way, was just wondering what size this other one is since it is
in the same machine.

On 9/24/08, Kris Tilford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>
>> I don't remember offhand.
>> I have not set up this machine.
>> I was given this machine and I forgot to ask what amount of RAM it has
>> (or what size HD)
>> I was just going through other computers I have sitting around seeing
>> if I have some RAM I can put into the G4 I am getting (so I don't have
>> to yank what is in the Smurf as I want to keep it in the network).
>
> 99% chance that PII RAM is too old and slow for a G4. It's also likely
> a small DIMM since there are only 4 chips total on it. You're wasting
> time, the DIMM is likely worth less than 50¢. If you're going to use
> the G4 "for real" buy the largest size modules it will take. Ask on
> LEM-Swap, buy on eBay used, or use RamSeeker.com for cheapest prices
> on new (compare with eBay "Buy It Now" new).
>
>
> >
>


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Re: Another RAM Question

[Kris Tilford]

On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

> I don't remember offhand.
> I have not set up this machine.
> I was given this machine and I forgot to ask what amount of RAM it has
> (or what size HD)
> I was just going through other computers I have sitting around seeing
> if I have some RAM I can put into the G4 I am getting (so I don't have
> to yank what is in the Smurf as I want to keep it in the network).

99% chance that PII RAM is too old and slow for a G4. It's also likely  
a small DIMM since there are only 4 chips total on it. You're wasting  
time, the DIMM is likely worth less than 50¢. If you're going to use  
the G4 "for real" buy the largest size modules it will take. Ask on  
LEM-Swap, buy on eBay used, or use RamSeeker.com for cheapest prices  
on new (compare with eBay "Buy It Now" new).


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Re: Another RAM Question

[Stephen Conrad]

I don't remember offhand.
I have not set up this machine.
I was given this machine and I forgot to ask what amount of RAM it has
(or what size HD)
I was just going through other computers I have sitting around seeing
if I have some RAM I can put into the G4 I am getting (so I don't have
to yank what is in the Smurf as I want to keep it in the network).

On 9/24/08, Kris Tilford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>
>> OK, I looked and its not listed
>>
>> Siemens
>> HYB39S63160AT-8
>> Germany  A  E814936
>>
>> Up the side it says: 9904
>>
>> 4 Chips on one side of the module
>
> What was the "other" module?(meaning the 2nd one that you could
> identify?) You just subtract the size of the "other" module from the
> total RAM and get the size, and then assume the speed is the same (or
> look at the last digits on one of the four chips, they designate the
> speed in nanoseconds, which you should be able to convert to a
> standard module speed).
>
>
> >
>


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Re: Another RAM Question

[Kris Tilford]

On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

> OK, I looked and its not listed
>
> Siemens
> HYB39S63160AT-8
> Germany  A  E814936
>
> Up the side it says: 9904
>
> 4 Chips on one side of the module

What was the "other" module?(meaning the 2nd one that you could  
identify?) You just subtract the size of the "other" module from the  
total RAM and get the size, and then assume the speed is the same (or  
look at the last digits on one of the four chips, they designate the  
speed in nanoseconds, which you should be able to convert to a  
standard module speed).


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Re: Another RAM Question

[Stephen Conrad]

Ooops, up the end of the chip it says

E04936
Board says this: 16-00640A  Rev.A

It is out of a Gateway Pentium II

On 9/24/08, Stephen Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, I looked and its not listed
>
> Siemens
> HYB39S63160AT-8
> Germany  A  E814936
>
> Up the side it says: 9904
>
> 4 Chips on one side of the module
>
> On 9/24/08, Stephen Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> *Sighs*
>> The similar (slightly different number) one I did find stated the
>> seller and size.
>> *Goes to once again basically pry out that RAM stick since it fits
>> tightly whereas the one next to it comes out easily*
>>
>> On 9/24/08, J.M.P.Hissel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 24-09-2008 06:27, Stephen Conrad, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
>>>
 I have tried several Google searches with the info I posted and no luck
 so
 far.
 The reason I asked here was that it was tough to get this RAM out (the
 other stick came out easily enough).
>>>
>>> Yeah, but that info on that sticker is for the seller's use only!!
>>> Ignore that sticker, it's worthless to determine your RAM.
>>> As said before, goto:
>>> 
>>> and check what you see on any of the chips on your stick.
>>> Follow that page and you will find out what RAM-stick you have!
>>> I already use this URL for years and cannot remember a case determining a
>>> RAM/DRAM/VRAM/etc-stick has failed.
>>>
>>> Again HTH,
>>>
>>> Jo Hissel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Steve Conrad
>> Henrietta, MO 64036
>>
>> "The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
>> to go forth and claim our place in outer space."
>>- Capt. Henry Gloval
>>
>>
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Re: Another RAM Question

[Stephen Conrad]

OK, I looked and its not listed

Siemens
HYB39S63160AT-8
Germany  A  E814936

Up the side it says: 9904

4 Chips on one side of the module

On 9/24/08, Stephen Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> *Sighs*
> The similar (slightly different number) one I did find stated the
> seller and size.
> *Goes to once again basically pry out that RAM stick since it fits
> tightly whereas the one next to it comes out easily*
>
> On 9/24/08, J.M.P.Hissel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On 24-09-2008 06:27, Stephen Conrad, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
>>
>>> I have tried several Google searches with the info I posted and no luck
>>> so
>>> far.
>>> The reason I asked here was that it was tough to get this RAM out (the
>>> other stick came out easily enough).
>>
>> Yeah, but that info on that sticker is for the seller's use only!!
>> Ignore that sticker, it's worthless to determine your RAM.
>> As said before, goto:
>> 
>> and check what you see on any of the chips on your stick.
>> Follow that page and you will find out what RAM-stick you have!
>> I already use this URL for years and cannot remember a case determining a
>> RAM/DRAM/VRAM/etc-stick has failed.
>>
>> Again HTH,
>>
>> Jo Hissel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>
>>
>
>
> --
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> Henrietta, MO 64036
>
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> to go forth and claim our place in outer space."
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>
>
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Re: Another RAM Question

[Stephen Conrad]

*Sighs*
The similar (slightly different number) one I did find stated the
seller and size.
*Goes to once again basically pry out that RAM stick since it fits
tightly whereas the one next to it comes out easily*

On 9/24/08, J.M.P.Hissel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 24-09-2008 06:27, Stephen Conrad, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
>
>> I have tried several Google searches with the info I posted and no luck so
>> far.
>> The reason I asked here was that it was tough to get this RAM out (the
>> other stick came out easily enough).
>
> Yeah, but that info on that sticker is for the seller's use only!!
> Ignore that sticker, it's worthless to determine your RAM.
> As said before, goto:
> 
> and check what you see on any of the chips on your stick.
> Follow that page and you will find out what RAM-stick you have!
> I already use this URL for years and cannot remember a case determining a
> RAM/DRAM/VRAM/etc-stick has failed.
>
> Again HTH,
>
> Jo Hissel
>
>
>
>
> >
>


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Re: Another RAM Question

[J.M.P.Hissel]

On 24-09-2008 06:27, Stephen Conrad, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:

> I have tried several Google searches with the info I posted and no luck so
> far.
> The reason I asked here was that it was tough to get this RAM out (the
> other stick came out easily enough).

Yeah, but that info on that sticker is for the seller's use only!!
Ignore that sticker, it's worthless to determine your RAM.
As said before, goto:

and check what you see on any of the chips on your stick.
Follow that page and you will find out what RAM-stick you have!
I already use this URL for years and cannot remember a case determining a
RAM/DRAM/VRAM/etc-stick has failed.

Again HTH,

Jo Hissel




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Re: Another RAM Question

[Stephen Conrad]

On 9/23/08, Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 9/23/08, J.M.P.Hissel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 23-09-2008 03:15, Stephen Conrad, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
>>>
 I found another stick of RAM in a PC
 This is on the sticker

 G0162.1 5000236
 VT QC 53251

 A Google search turns up a similar number on some RAM but not
 this exact
 one.
 What do I have here?
>>>
>>> To determine your RAM in an exact way, goto:
>>> 
>>>

 I asked here because I don't have the RAM out of that machine. It
 was
 a pain to take out and I don't want to remove it again.
>
> What machine is it? Between the Mac model you have, the total amount
> of ram installed and what System Profiler identifies it as, we should
> be able to determine what type of ram it is and the size without
> opening the case.
>
> It is in a Mac, isn't it?
>
>
> Len Gerstel

I took the RAM out of a PC and was wondering what it is and if it will
work in a G4 I am getting.
I have tried several Google searches with the info I posted and no luck so far.
The reason I asked here was that it was tough to get this RAM out (the
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Re: Another RAM Question

[Len Gerstel]

On Sep 23, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>
>
> On 9/23/08, J.M.P.Hissel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On 23-09-2008 03:15, Stephen Conrad, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
>>
>>> I found another stick of RAM in a PC
>>> This is on the sticker
>>>
>>> G0162.1 5000236
>>> VT QC 53251
>>>
>>> A Google search turns up a similar number on some RAM but not  
>>> this exact
>>> one.
>>> What do I have here?
>>
>> To determine your RAM in an exact way, goto:
>> 
>>
>>>
>>> I asked here because I don't have the RAM out of that machine. It  
>>> was
>>> a pain to take out and I don't want to remove it again.

What machine is it? Between the Mac model you have, the total amount  
of ram installed and what System Profiler identifies it as, we should  
be able to determine what type of ram it is and the size without  
opening the case.

It is in a Mac, isn't it?


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Re: Another RAM Question

[Stephen Conrad]

I asked here because I don't have the RAM out of that machine. It was
a pain to take out and I don't want to remove it again.

On 9/23/08, J.M.P.Hissel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 23-09-2008 03:15, Stephen Conrad, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
>
>> I found another stick of RAM in a PC
>> This is on the sticker
>>
>> G0162.1 5000236
>> VT QC 53251
>>
>> A Google search turns up a similar number on some RAM but not this exact
>> one.
>> What do I have here?
>
> To determine your RAM in an exact way, goto:
> 
>
> HTH,
>
> Jo Hissel
>
>
>
> >
>


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Re: Another RAM Question

[J.M.P.Hissel]

On 23-09-2008 03:15, Stephen Conrad, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:

> I found another stick of RAM in a PC
> This is on the sticker
> 
> G0162.1 5000236
> VT QC 53251
> 
> A Google search turns up a similar number on some RAM but not this exact one.
> What do I have here?

To determine your RAM in an exact way, goto:


HTH,

Jo Hissel



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