Re: Artwork missing in iTunes 8.0

2008-09-13 Thread Doug Burton


On Sep 13, 2008, at 2:52 PM, insightinmind wrote:



 On Sep 13, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Doug Burton wrote:


 Does someone at Apple get their jollies from screwing around with
 iTunes?  I worked long and hard to get all of the album artwork for
 my collection and now that I've upgraded to 8.0, half of it's
 missing!  All of this for genius?  Yeah, real genius losing my
 artwork, way to go Apple.

 I haven't been privileged to the genius of iTunes 8 (I've ordered  
 Tiger
 for my PowerMac 8500/9500, and I haven't touched my Leopardized
 Quicksilver 2002 yet) ... but is all your artwork coming from the
 iTunes Store?

 When it searches to Get Album Artwork ... would it replace that which
 is already there?

 Just curious ...

Part of it came from wherever iTunes gets the artwork from when it  
searches, but a lot of it was missing, so I took the time, a lot of  
time, to make sure each song had the proper artwork.  I have about  
4500 tunes in my personal library and needless to say was a bit  
ticked when a lot of it was missing.  I am happy to report that some  
of it has come back as the songs play (I use party shuffle when I  
listen), but some hasn't returned.  I have been watching for missing  
artwork as the songs appear in the display and for the missing ones I  
have been going into the library and pulling up that album.  Usually  
by clicking on info for the first song in the album, the artwork will  
then reappear, but that hasn't worked for every one that is missing  
and I suppose I will just have to find a good image on the web yet  
again to fix them.

 In 7.7.1, some aiff files would accept iTunes Artwork, some not. And I
 had to allow copying of those aiffs to the iTunes Library folder,
 before it would accept artwork from any source.

 Guess going from 7.7.1 to 8 offers more surprises ...

 Bill Connelly

Now I'm curious as to why your collection is in the form of aiff?   
Being a musician is your ear that good to hear the difference between  
aiff and 192 bit MP3?  I would think a decent sized collection would  
take some serious HD space using that format.

Just a message from Doug...


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Re: Artwork missing in iTunes 8.0

2008-09-13 Thread insightinmind


On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Doug Burton wrote:

 Now I'm curious as to why your collection is in the form of aiff?
 Being a musician is your ear that good to hear the difference between
 aiff and 192 bit MP3?  I would think a decent sized collection would
 take some serious HD space using that format.

I'm working on making my collection decent ... mostly Jazz ... that's 
why I don't want to copy it into the iTunes Library area ... just leave 
it where I initially put it ... some accept Album Artwork ... and some 
do not (7.7.1 ???)

Yes ... I'm able to hear the difference ... I usually encode at 256 bit 
mp3, too ... mainly because I just don't want to miss anything ... and 
I walk my dog using over the ear headphones ... yes, a bit geeky 
looking ... I'm going for sound, not sight ...

I also believe there are sounds that we humanoids cannot hear ... 
that may possibly push around those we can hear ... so affect what we 
do hear ...

Well ... something like that ...

Bill Connelly
Musician and Painter
artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio/
myspace.com:  http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio


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Re: Artwork missing in iTunes 8.0

2008-09-13 Thread Doug Burton


On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:38 PM, insightinmind wrote:



 On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Doug Burton wrote:

 Now I'm curious as to why your collection is in the form of aiff?
 Being a musician is your ear that good to hear the difference between
 aiff and 192 bit MP3?  I would think a decent sized collection would
 take some serious HD space using that format.

 I'm working on making my collection decent ... mostly Jazz ... that's
 why I don't want to copy it into the iTunes Library area ... just  
 leave
 it where I initially put it ... some accept Album Artwork ... and some
 do not (7.7.1 ???)

This puzzles me a bit.  What exactly do you mean by the iTunes  
Library area?  Just putting it in your library doesn't mean you have  
to move the actual files.  Under preferencesadvanced just uncheck  
the box which directs iTunes to copy files added to the library to  
the music folder.  This is always the first thing I do on any new OS  
install.  My files reside on my file server back in another room so  
naturally I don't want them moved either.

 Yes ... I'm able to hear the difference ... I usually encode at 256  
 bit
 mp3, too ... mainly because I just don't want to miss anything ... and
 I walk my dog using over the ear headphones ... yes, a bit geeky
 looking ... I'm going for sound, not sight ...

Not geeky to me, I hate those earbuds!  They won't stay in and the  
sound is not that good either.  I only use the over the ears type also.

 I also believe there are sounds that we humanoids cannot hear ...
 that may possibly push around those we can hear ... so affect what we
 do hear ...

 Well ... something like that ...

 Bill Connelly

Also agree on this, but so far my ears have not been able to tell the  
difference between an MP3 encoded at 192 bits and the real thing.   
Now I can definitely hear a difference at 128 and 160 sometimes, but  
never been able to at 192.

I use a Sansa e280 mp3 player at work, upgraded to 16 gb, and in  
order to accommodate my entire collection, I found it necessary to re- 
encode to music into 96 bit wma files.  The sound is good enough to  
drown out the constant chattering of the women to work near me.   
Sorry ladies, nothing personal, even the other women who work there  
complain about these two!

Just a message from Doug...


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Re: Artwork missing in iTunes 8.0

2008-09-13 Thread Len Gerstel


On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:38 PM, insightinmind wrote:



 On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Doug Burton wrote:

 Now I'm curious as to why your collection is in the form of aiff?
 Being a musician is your ear that good to hear the difference between
 aiff and 192 bit MP3?  I would think a decent sized collection would
 take some serious HD space using that format.

 I'm working on making my collection decent ... mostly Jazz ... that's
 why I don't want to copy it into the iTunes Library area ... just  
 leave
 it where I initially put it ... some accept Album Artwork ... and some
 do not (7.7.1 ???)

 Yes ... I'm able to hear the difference ... I usually encode at 256  
 bit
 mp3, too ... mainly because I just don't want to miss anything ... and
 I walk my dog using over the ear headphones ... yes, a bit geeky
 looking ... I'm going for sound, not sight ...

 I also believe there are sounds that we humanoids cannot hear ...
 that may possibly push around those we can hear ... so affect what we
 do hear ...

 Well ... something like that ...

Did you know that iTunes and import music and leave it in aiff  
format? I have been slowly (very slowly) ripping my LPs using a  
decent Denon turntable and Hafler preamp and an iMic. I save them in  
aiff format and import them into iTunes in that format. Now I will  
admit that I do not have an MP3 player so the space issue is not as  
critical, but I can hear the difference between a ripped file at 192  
and the original aiff burned to a CD and played in my car (at least  
when stopped).

And yes, I also believe the sounds and harmonics above and below the  
range of human hearing do affect what you actually hear.

Len

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Re: Artwork missing in iTunes 8.0

2008-09-13 Thread Doug Burton


On Sep 13, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:



 On Sep 13, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Doug Burton wrote:

 Oops, forgot to RTFM!  Perhaps it will work better when I do what the
 instructions say to do.

 Yes. Another thing. It only does the specific playlist and selection,
 so to do your entire music collection you need to be in your Music
 and then select all and only THEN run the iTunes Art-less script.

I'm happy to report that all my iTunes artwork is now back in place.   
Ended up only having to download a couple of images.  Just had to  
click the next button about a million times and click on get info  
when an image was missing.  This got most of them back, but sometimes  
I had to play around with show in finder and then click on play in  
iTunes.

Now the random song switch has returned.  Song will be playing fine  
and then all of a sudden in the middle of the song it will switch to  
the next song.  I give up,

Just a message from Doug...




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