Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran
 OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing
 this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your
 computer. hold down the power button.

This is a kernel panic. It indicates the operating system has encountered an
unrecoverable error. It can be caused by software or hardware, or both.

I have seen this exact issue when a G5 that previously ran 10.4 well was
upgraded to 10.5, became flaky, and eventually suffered a crippling hardware
fault. I would check your motherboard, RAM, and cooling system as soon as
possible.

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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread James Morgan

Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and 
reinstall OS 10.4?
James Morgan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote:


I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran
OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing
this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your
computer. hold down the power button.


This is a kernel panic. It indicates the operating system has encountered an
unrecoverable error. It can be caused by software or hardware, or both.

I have seen this exact issue when a G5 that previously ran 10.4 well was
upgraded to 10.5, became flaky, and eventually suffered a crippling hardware
fault. I would check your motherboard, RAM, and cooling system as soon as
possible.

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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and
 reinstall OS 10.4?

You could try, but more likely as not the problem will manifest there too.
It would allow the computer to at least be useable until you find out
what the glitch is.

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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive  
and

reinstall OS 10.4?



FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades.

John Carmonne
Placentia CA 92870
From iMac Core Duo 2.0





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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread James Morgan

I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a try. 
Thanks for the suggestion.  I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago when I 
was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is 
Diskwarrior sufficient?
James Morgan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:04 AM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote:


On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive 
and

reinstall OS 10.4?



FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades.

John Carmonne
Placentia CA 92870

From iMac Core Duo 2.0






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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread Dan

At 5:39 PM + 7/16/2012, James Morgan wrote:
I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long 
time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 
10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages 
saying you need to restart your computer.

[snip]
Who is sending this really frustrating message that I must now hold 
down the power button and restart?


As pointed out - you're experiencing a kernel panic.

Your next step is to take a look at the system and panic logs. 
Therein you will find all sorts of nice error messages ... and in the 
panic log especially, hopefully something that will point to the 
exact problem.


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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread John Carmonne

On Jul 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, James Morgan wrote:

 I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a 
 try. Thanks for the suggestion.  I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago 
 when I was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is 
 Diskwarrior sufficient?
 James Morgan

DiskWarrior can be magic some times Tech Tool never helped me any more than 
disk utility. DiskWarrior is my number one goto. Also re install the system can 
be the fix or a combination of the two.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem






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Re: OS 10.5 Problem

2012-07-16 Thread Kris Tilford

On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:39 PM, James Morgan wrote:

I get a nice window offering to send a crash report to Apple (as if  
they care about an older operating system).


If you look at this report, you'll see what the reason for the panic  
is, and might possibly be able to suss out the cause.


All of these panics are kept in the system log files, and you can look  
at them using Console under Log files/Library/LogsPanicReporter. In  
PanicReporter you'll want to find the line that says: Kernel loadable  
modules in backtrace and then the next line will show you what the  
likely cause for the panic was.


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