Re: OS 10.5 Problem
I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. hold down the power button. This is a kernel panic. It indicates the operating system has encountered an unrecoverable error. It can be caused by software or hardware, or both. I have seen this exact issue when a G5 that previously ran 10.4 well was upgraded to 10.5, became flaky, and eventually suffered a crippling hardware fault. I would check your motherboard, RAM, and cooling system as soon as possible. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- You'd PAY to know what you REALLY think. -- J. R. Bob Dobbs, 1961 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? James Morgan On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. hold down the power button. This is a kernel panic. It indicates the operating system has encountered an unrecoverable error. It can be caused by software or hardware, or both. I have seen this exact issue when a G5 that previously ran 10.4 well was upgraded to 10.5, became flaky, and eventually suffered a crippling hardware fault. I would check your motherboard, RAM, and cooling system as soon as possible. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- You'd PAY to know what you REALLY think. -- J. R. Bob Dobbs, 1961 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? You could try, but more likely as not the problem will manifest there too. It would allow the computer to at least be useable until you find out what the glitch is. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. -- Socrates --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion. I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago when I was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is Diskwarrior sufficient? James Morgan On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:04 AM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
At 5:39 PM + 7/16/2012, James Morgan wrote: I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. [snip] Who is sending this really frustrating message that I must now hold down the power button and restart? As pointed out - you're experiencing a kernel panic. Your next step is to take a look at the system and panic logs. Therein you will find all sorts of nice error messages ... and in the panic log especially, hopefully something that will point to the exact problem. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
On Jul 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, James Morgan wrote: I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion. I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago when I was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is Diskwarrior sufficient? James Morgan DiskWarrior can be magic some times Tech Tool never helped me any more than disk utility. DiskWarrior is my number one goto. Also re install the system can be the fix or a combination of the two. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:39 PM, James Morgan wrote: I get a nice window offering to send a crash report to Apple (as if they care about an older operating system). If you look at this report, you'll see what the reason for the panic is, and might possibly be able to suss out the cause. All of these panics are kept in the system log files, and you can look at them using Console under Log files/Library/LogsPanicReporter. In PanicReporter you'll want to find the line that says: Kernel loadable modules in backtrace and then the next line will show you what the likely cause for the panic was. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list