Re: weird USB - Firewire bridge
Thank you all for your replies! I'll give the adapter a shot when I find time to do so :). Regards, MM On Jun 14, 12:09 am, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote: No. It will run at the slower USB 2.0 speed. Whenever you are working with devices that work at different speeds your bottleneck will always be the slower device. Peace, Dennis Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Here's a good question. If i have a USB 2.0 external HDD and plug in the FW adapter, will it run at full firewire speed? -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: weird USB - Firewire bridge
It might stop working after a while, but it won't blow up. This is what usually happens to really cheap computer stuff. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: weird USB - Firewire bridge
At 9:06 AM -0700 6/13/2010, Manuel Marques wrote: cheap set of USB adapters, and was surprised to find one that has a USB female plug in one end and a standard FireWire 400 port in the other. These are a PITA necessity now that Apple has dropped FW from some machines. The adapter is so small that I really can't imagine what kind of electronics is hidden there! I always thought Firewire required a special controller, and that's why Firewire devices were more expensive than their USB counterparts. A real firewire controller does the i/o work for the CPU. The protocol's low overhead, plus the work done in the controller, are the reason for FW's blazing throughput. USB is designed to be a cheap dumb interface - making the main CPU do most of the work. The adapter converts the signals but does no processing. That's up to your USB driver and the machine's main CPU to do. I can post links to some images of the adapter, but I wanted to know your opinion prior to plugging something to it. Will it blow up? :) It should be fine. Just don't expect full firewire performance from it. And I believe the Adapter counts as a device, so it pulls a unit of power. This can be problematic with some peripherals that want to leech power from the bus -- USB has much less power available than FW. If this is a problem, you'll get a dialog complaining. If it's a serious / electrical problem, OS X will shut off the interface (reboot to restore it). A powered hub will usually fix things. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: weird USB - Firewire bridge
I one got something similar in a set of USB adapters. In my case, the kit came with a retractable USB A male-to-A female adapter (extension cable) and a set of various adapters to convert the extension cable into a dedicated purpose cable; this included a pair of RJ-45 ends to turn the cable into an Ethernet cable. I think there was supposed to be a complementary adapter to the one your father has in order to allow a USB extension cable to be used as a 4-pin FW400 cable. (Ironically, I think you have the mate to the one I used to have- USB female-to-mini FW400. John -Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Manuel Marques Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:07 PM To: G-Group Subject: weird USB - Firewire bridge Hello all, I know this is not the right place for this question, but no other LEM list is, as well, so here it goes: my father bought a cheap set of USB adapters, and was surprised to find one that has a USB female plug in one end and a standard FireWire 400 port in the other. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: weird USB - Firewire bridge
Here's a good question. If i have a USB 2.0 external HDD and plug in the FW adapter, will it run at full firewire speed? -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: weird USB - Firewire bridge
No. It will run at the slower USB 2.0 speed. Whenever you are working with devices that work at different speeds your bottleneck will always be the slower device. Peace, Dennis Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Here's a good question. If i have a USB 2.0 external HDD and plug in the FW adapter, will it run at full firewire speed? -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
