Re: Safari memory leak fixed ?
I learned many moons ago from reading Dan's responses that he is usually right 99.9 percent of the time. I have not checked it out myself to validate, but if Dan says that there is a Debug menu as well, I personally believe him. :) I may test it out on my system at home to satisfy my curiosity though. :P Sent from my iPad On May 4, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com wrote: O.K. but you lost me regarding 'debug menu' (I'm running 10.5.8). Where is debug menu? Maybe he means what in my Safari 4.1.3 is called the Developer menu? You can make that appear in Safari’s Preferences/Advanced. Still, no Caches window there, but maybe the Web inspector can help? Or, to fix the problem, you could try switching Caches off there. Just guessing, waiting for the final word... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari memory leak fixed ?
On May 4, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Jason Brown wrote: if Dan says that there is a Debug menu as well, I personally believe him. There is, the confusion arises because the developer menu (which had to be enabled via the command-line preferences tool) included the debug stuff before Apple made the Developer menu a selectable item in the prefs. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari memory leak fixed ?
At 5:31 AM -0700 5/4/2011, JGetchel wrote: On May 3, 10:54 pm, Jim McGee orb...@dslextreme.com wrote: O.K. but you lost me regarding 'debug menu' (I'm running 10.5.8). Where is debug menu? It is actually called the Develop menu, and it is enabled via Preferences-Advanced, and tick the box Show Develop menu in menu bar No, I meant what I said: the Debug menu. You enable it with a hidden preference. Tools such of OnyX will do it for you, or you can issue a defaults command in Terminal. defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1 - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari memory leak fixed ?
On May 4, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:31 AM -0700 5/4/2011, JGetchel wrote: On May 3, 10:54 pm, Jim McGee orb...@dslextreme.com wrote: O.K. but you lost me regarding 'debug menu' (I'm running 10.5.8). Where is debug menu? It is actually called the Develop menu, and it is enabled via Preferences-Advanced, and tick the box Show Develop menu in menu bar No, I meant what I said: the Debug menu. You enable it with a hidden preference. Tools such of OnyX will do it for you, or you can issue a defaults command in Terminal. defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1 - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Thanks Dan, Jim McGee (aka: mudbro) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari memory leak fixed ?
O.K. but you lost me regarding 'debug menu' (I'm running 10.5.8). Where is debug menu? Maybe he means what in my Safari 4.1.3 is called the Developer menu? You can make that appear in Safari’s Preferences/Advanced. Still, no Caches window there, but maybe the Web inspector can help? Or, to fix the problem, you could try switching Caches off there. Just guessing, waiting for the final word... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Safari memory leak fixed ?
Well, after some weeks of tracking Safari's relentless grab of memory allocation, I discovered that it seems to have been fixed. Was this fixed in 5.0.5 ? If so, it wasn't immediately apparent upon installing the 5.0.5 software update two+ weeks ago. Yesterday I fired up my dual MDD (2 GB ram) as usual and checked Safari's bloat with the result showing that the memory usage was low and on quitting Safari the allocation was released back to the free memory. Any comments ? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari memory leak fixed ?
At 6:35 PM -0700 5/3/2011, Jim McGee wrote: Well, after some weeks of tracking Safari's relentless grab of memory allocation, I discovered that it seems to have been fixed. Was this fixed in 5.0.5 ? If so, it wasn't immediately apparent upon installing the 5.0.5 software update two+ weeks ago. Yesterday I fired up my dual MDD (2 GB ram) as usual and checked Safari's bloat with the result showing that the memory usage was low and on quitting Safari the allocation was released back to the free memory. Some of the leak in Safari is fixed. Ditto WebKit. But Flash still has problems. Realize also that much of the bloat of Safari is not leak - it's intentional. Safari is busy caching things in memory, creating page previews, etc. If you enable the Debug menu, then you can select Show Caches Window ... some interesting insight there as to what's going on. FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari memory leak fixed ?
O.K. but you lost me regarding 'debug menu' (I'm running 10.5.8). Where is debug menu? Thanks, Jim McGee (aka:mudbro) On May 3, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Dan wrote: At 6:35 PM -0700 5/3/2011, Jim McGee wrote: Well, after some weeks of tracking Safari's relentless grab of memory allocation, I discovered that it seems to have been fixed. Was this fixed in 5.0.5 ? If so, it wasn't immediately apparent upon installing the 5.0.5 software update two+ weeks ago. Yesterday I fired up my dual MDD (2 GB ram) as usual and checked Safari's bloat with the result showing that the memory usage was low and on quitting Safari the allocation was released back to the free memory. Some of the leak in Safari is fixed. Ditto WebKit. But Flash still has problems. Realize also that much of the bloat of Safari is not leak - it's intentional. Safari is busy caching things in memory, creating page previews, etc. If you enable the Debug menu, then you can select Show Caches Window ... some interesting insight there as to what's going on. FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
