Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
Doug I was using Flurry. But the problem started as soon as I hooked up the monitor. I will try using a different screen saver or not one at all. Anything is worth a try. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 9 2008, Doug Burton wrote: I'm getting in on this rather late, but were you by chance using Flurry as your screen saver? The reason I ask is because I had a similar problem using a cheap LCD. I left it on with Flurry as the screen saver and started noticing the fuzzy looking image on the screen that you describe. More noticeable in the screen text, but generally a fuzzy image. I stopped using Flurry on that monitor and it cleared up. Just a thought. Just a message from Doug... On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > >> >> Bruce >> >> The monitor is a cheap TFT given to me by a friend who used it on a >> G4 Cube >> and a PC and he didn't notice bad picturing. >> > > Might he have lower standards or (more likely) simply been used to > it? I remember when I finally replaced my old 17" monitor with a new > one how incredibly fuzzy and dim it was, though I'd have said it was > just fine the day before... > >> I haven't tried it on another Mac myself, but I do have an iMac G3 >> which I >> am going to hook it up to just to check if the picture is better on >> there. >> >> If it is, then the video card in my PowerMac is the problem. One >> thing I >> did notice is, my PowerMac G4 is a Sawtooth with AGP graphics but it >> has a >> PCI ATI Rage 128 installed (which looks like it is from a B&W G3 or >> Yikes >> G4). > > That shouldn't make it fuzzy, merely less than optimal video > performance. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
I'm getting in on this rather late, but were you by chance using Flurry as your screen saver? The reason I ask is because I had a similar problem using a cheap LCD. I left it on with Flurry as the screen saver and started noticing the fuzzy looking image on the screen that you describe. More noticeable in the screen text, but generally a fuzzy image. I stopped using Flurry on that monitor and it cleared up. Just a thought. Just a message from Doug... On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > >> >> Bruce >> >> The monitor is a cheap TFT given to me by a friend who used it on a >> G4 Cube >> and a PC and he didn't notice bad picturing. >> > > Might he have lower standards or (more likely) simply been used to > it? I remember when I finally replaced my old 17" monitor with a new > one how incredibly fuzzy and dim it was, though I'd have said it was > just fine the day before... > >> I haven't tried it on another Mac myself, but I do have an iMac G3 >> which I >> am going to hook it up to just to check if the picture is better on >> there. >> >> If it is, then the video card in my PowerMac is the problem. One >> thing I >> did notice is, my PowerMac G4 is a Sawtooth with AGP graphics but it >> has a >> PCI ATI Rage 128 installed (which looks like it is from a B&W G3 or >> Yikes >> G4). > > That shouldn't make it fuzzy, merely less than optimal video > performance. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Bruce > > The monitor is a cheap TFT given to me by a friend who used it on a > G4 Cube > and a PC and he didn't notice bad picturing. > Might he have lower standards or (more likely) simply been used to it? I remember when I finally replaced my old 17" monitor with a new one how incredibly fuzzy and dim it was, though I'd have said it was just fine the day before... > I haven't tried it on another Mac myself, but I do have an iMac G3 > which I > am going to hook it up to just to check if the picture is better on > there. > > If it is, then the video card in my PowerMac is the problem. One > thing I > did notice is, my PowerMac G4 is a Sawtooth with AGP graphics but it > has a > PCI ATI Rage 128 installed (which looks like it is from a B&W G3 or > Yikes > G4). That shouldn't make it fuzzy, merely less than optimal video performance. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
Bruce The monitor is a cheap TFT given to me by a friend who used it on a G4 Cube and a PC and he didn't notice bad picturing. I haven't tried it on another Mac myself, but I do have an iMac G3 which I am going to hook it up to just to check if the picture is better on there. If it is, then the video card in my PowerMac is the problem. One thing I did notice is, my PowerMac G4 is a Sawtooth with AGP graphics but it has a PCI ATI Rage 128 installed (which looks like it is from a B&W G3 or Yikes G4). Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 9 2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 9, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Bruce. > > I'm no Mac newbie, I had thought of that. It also makes no difference. > > The whole picture is fuzzy but it is most noticeable on text. Crap, another wonderful theory killed by those damn facts. :-) Have you tried different refresh frequencies? Messed with any monitor settings on the monitor itself? Have you tested another monitor on that computer? (I'm sort of lost on the whole sequence so far, I remember the monitor is fine on another computer...it's remotely possible there's an issue with your video card) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
On Oct 9, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Bruce. > > I'm no Mac newbie, I had thought of that. It also makes no difference. > > The whole picture is fuzzy but it is most noticeable on text. Crap, another wonderful theory killed by those damn facts. :-) Have you tried different refresh frequencies? Messed with any monitor settings on the monitor itself? Have you tested another monitor on that computer? (I'm sort of lost on the whole sequence so far, I remember the monitor is fine on another computer...it's remotely possible there's an issue with your video card) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
Bruce. I'm no Mac newbie, I had thought of that. It also makes no difference. The whole picture is fuzzy but it is most noticeable on text. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT From: Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 09/10/2008 16:27 On Oct 9, 2008, at 6:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac > G4 Sawtooth. > > I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read > that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it. > > The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small > text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of my > iMac G3 screen. "The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated" DING DING DING. We have a winnah! Go into the monitors control pane and check the text smoothing setting. It's probably set for something other than what you want. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
On Oct 9, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Oct 9, 2008, at 6:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > >> >> Hi. >> >> I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac >> G4 Sawtooth. >> >> I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read >> that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it. >> >> The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small >> text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of my >> iMac G3 screen. > > "The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated" > > DING DING DING. We have a winnah! > > Go into the monitors control pane and check the text smoothing > setting. It's probably set for something other than what you want. Ugh! not enough coffee yet...it's not the Displays, but Appearance pref pane. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
On Oct 9, 2008, at 6:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac > G4 Sawtooth. > > I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read > that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it. > > The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small > text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of my > iMac G3 screen. "The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated" DING DING DING. We have a winnah! Go into the monitors control pane and check the text smoothing setting. It's probably set for something other than what you want. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
Len It was given to me, but had been working on a Cube and PC with no probs before I got it. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT From: Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 09/10/2008 14:42 On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > >> >> >> -original message- >> Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT >> From: Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 09/10/2008 14:15 >> >> >> >> On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac >>> G4 Sawtooth. >>> >>> I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read >>> that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it. >>> >>> The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small >>> text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of >>> my iMac G3 screen. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> Simon >> >> A couple of questions on the specs of your monitor: >> >> What is the native resolution of the monitor? >> >> What resolution do you have set in display preferences? >> >> What is the pixel pitch (or dpi) of the monitor? > > Native res is 1024x768 and it is set to that. > > I do not know what the DPI is, how would I find this? > > Simon DPI would be in the spec sheet for the monitor, you may need to hit the manufacturers site for the info. What is the make and model? If this is a entry level and/or off brand monitor, it may be the best it is going to get. Did you test it out with text and graphics before you bought it? With the vga connection and not digital? Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > >> >> >> -original message- >> Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT >> From: Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 09/10/2008 14:15 >> >> >> >> On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac >>> G4 Sawtooth. >>> >>> I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read >>> that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it. >>> >>> The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small >>> text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of >>> my iMac G3 screen. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> Simon >> >> A couple of questions on the specs of your monitor: >> >> What is the native resolution of the monitor? >> >> What resolution do you have set in display preferences? >> >> What is the pixel pitch (or dpi) of the monitor? > > Native res is 1024x768 and it is set to that. > > I do not know what the DPI is, how would I find this? > > Simon DPI would be in the spec sheet for the monitor, you may need to hit the manufacturers site for the info. What is the make and model? If this is a entry level and/or off brand monitor, it may be the best it is going to get. Did you test it out with text and graphics before you bought it? With the vga connection and not digital? Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
Len Native res is 1024x768 and it is set to that. I do not know what the DPI is, how would I find this? Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT From: Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 09/10/2008 14:15 On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac > G4 Sawtooth. > > I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read > that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it. > > The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small > text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of > my iMac G3 screen. > > Any ideas? > > Simon A couple of questions on the specs of your monitor: What is the native resolution of the monitor? What resolution do you have set in display preferences? What is the pixel pitch (or dpi) of the monitor? Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac > G4 Sawtooth. > > I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read > that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it. > > The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small > text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of > my iMac G3 screen. > > Any ideas? > > Simon A couple of questions on the specs of your monitor: What is the native resolution of the monitor? What resolution do you have set in display preferences? What is the pixel pitch (or dpi) of the monitor? Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Still Fuzzy TFT
Hi. I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac G4 Sawtooth. I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it. The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of my iMac G3 screen. Any ideas? Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
