Re: TenFourFox Won't Boot on G4 Gigabit...
On Feb 3, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: > > On 3 Feb 2018, at 10:53:28 AM PST, James E. Therrault wrote: > >> Up to recently, no problems but when updating to the latest version, it goes >> through the motions but no joy. > --- > Perhaps you have wrong version? It is easy to get a G5 or G3 version by > mistake. > > Ken > > -- > -- Not so in this case, 7450 "e" processor, etc has worked fine for former versions but the latest, no go.. JT -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: TenFourFox Won't Boot on G4 Gigabit...
On 3 Feb 2018, at 10:53:28 AM PST, James E. Therrault wrote: Up to recently, no problems but when updating to the latest version, it goes through the motions but no joy. --- Perhaps you have wrong version? It is easy to get a G5 or G3 version by mistake. Ken -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
TenFourFox Won't Boot on G4 Gigabit...
Up to recently, no problems but when updating to the latest version, it goes through the motions but no joy. TIA -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
TenFourFox: Firefox for PPC Macs
Nobody has done more to keep PowerPC Macs relevant than the TenFourFox team, which continues to port Firefox for OS X 10.4 and 10.5 users. Adam Albrec has gone the next step and created a launcher that will let you choose between the last version to support plugins and the newest version. http://goo.gl/ZEGn7Z -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TenFourFox: Firefox for PPC Macs
Nobody has done more to keep PowerPC Macs relevant than the TenFourFox team, which continues to port Firefox for OS X 10.4 and 10.5 users. Adam Albrec has gone the next step and created a launcher that will let you choose between the last version to support plugins and the newest version. http://goo.gl/ZEGn7Z Just so things are clear, and because I've already received a number of questions about it, let me make a clear official statement: http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2013/08/lets-go-out-to-launch-gentle-position.html -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Sometimes Dilbert is so true, it's scary. -- Mike Jacobs --- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TenFourFox: Firefox for PPC Macs
On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com wrote: Nobody has done more to keep PowerPC Macs relevant than the TenFourFox team, which continues to port Firefox for OS X 10.4 and 10.5 users. Adam Albrec has gone the next step and created a launcher that will let you choose between the last version to support plugins and the newest version. http://goo.gl/ZEGn7Z Dan: It is most regrettable that you failed to mention Cameron Kaiser who, way above everyone else, deserves the accolade for TenFourFox. Fabian -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Importing Bookmarks/Passwords to TenFourFox
Thanks, Michael. On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Michael McMurtrey skyking...@verizon.netwrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 5:46 AM, William Tomcanin wrote: I just installed TenFourFox on my 2002 Quicksilver, and I have the same question regarding importing bookmarks, etc., from Safari. I can't seem to get them imported. How did you do it? Open TenFourFox. In the Bookmarks menu, click on Show All Bookmarks. A new window will open with five buttons. Click the one at the far right (the star cycle icon) and select Import Data From Another Browser, then select Safari. This apparently only work for Bookmarks. i have had to re-enter passwords manually, but fortunately had a master list kept elsewhere. You can find your user names for the sites you visit by opening Safari and going to PreferencesAutofill and clicking on the Edit button next to User names and passwords. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Importing Bookmarks/Passwords to TenFourFox
Michael, I just installed TenFourFox on my 2002 Quicksilver, and I have the same question regarding importing bookmarks, etc., from Safari. I can't seem to get them imported. How did you do it? Thanks in advance, Bill On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Michael McMurtrey skyking...@verizon.netwrote: Is there an easy way to import bookmarks and passwords from Safari into TenFourFox? Neither browser's Help offers much advice about this topic. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX OS X 10.5.8 on G4 MDD dual 1.25 GHz -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Importing Bookmarks/Passwords to TenFourFox
Is there an easy way to import bookmarks and passwords from Safari into TenFourFox? Neither browser's Help offers much advice about this topic. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX OS X 10.5.8 on G4 MDD dual 1.25 GHz -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Importing Bookmarks/Passwords to TenFourFox
Disregard previous message. Solution found. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX OS X 10.5.8 on G4 MDD dual 1.25 GHz -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
TenFourFox bookmarks
Hi Bruce, I had tried everything you told me already but nothing worked. My original Firefox (ver. 3.6.13) looks exactly the same like TenFourFox. I just opened it and it displayed the same tabs/windows that I had open when I quit TenFourFox. So I tried again to import the Safari bookmarks via the menu Import... and clicked Safari. Firefox told my it's done it but when I look in its Bookmarks menu I see a folder named Safari which is empty. No cigar. Also the site XE.com doesnt display its currency chart, in the chart field is the message that I need to enable JavaScript and need Flash. But all other sites display Flash videos OK and JavaScript is on. I cannot use most Extensions though. What is the difference between Firefox and TenFourFox? It doesn't seem faster than Firefox and videos play a lot worse than in Camino. Best regards, Jörg. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TenFourFox bookmarks
I had tried everything you told me already but nothing worked. My original Firefox (ver. 3.6.13) looks exactly the same like TenFourFox. I just opened it and it displayed the same tabs/windows that I had open when I quit TenFourFox. So I tried again to import the Safari bookmarks via the menu Import... and clicked Safari. Firefox told my it's done it but when I look in its Bookmarks menu I see a folder named Safari which is empty. No cigar. Also the site XE.com doesnt display its currency chart, in the chart field is the message that I need to enable JavaScript and need Flash. But all other sites display Flash videos OK and JavaScript is on. I cannot use most Extensions though. What is the difference between Firefox and TenFourFox? It doesn't seem faster than Firefox and videos play a lot worse than in Camino. Politely, I think you need to read the documentation. Almost all of the questions you asked are answered there. http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/ReleaseNotes1707 http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/AAATheFAQ You also need to make sure you are using the most current version; a Safari import bug was corrected some time ago. See http://tenfourfox.tenderapp.com/discussions/problems/298-safair-bookmarks-wont-migrate There is a workaround on that page you can try. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- The whippings shall continue until morale improves. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TenFourFox 19
At 2:23 PM -0800 01/14/2013, Cameron Kaiser wrote: YUM. http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2013/01/tenfourfox-19-beta-judgment-day.html How well does it work for you (I assume 7400)? (been one of those months; slowly catching up with LEM stuff). Just updated to 19.0 now. QuickSilver (7450), OS X 10.5.8. When I feed TenFourFox urls by pasting it works quite well. Seems a bit faster than Safari (w/ Leopard-WebKit). So far no crashes. Um... I don't use Firefox very often, so this is perhaps just a FF usage issue... With the bookmarks window open, I told it to import data from another browser. It listed Safari and all the items were checked. It finished in about 1 second. But then where did the bookmarks go? They're not showing up on that window or menu. Thx, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TenFourFox 19
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 2:23 PM -0800 01/14/2013, Cameron Kaiser wrote: YUM. http://tenfourfox.blogspot.**com/2013/01/tenfourfox-19-** beta-judgment-day.htmlhttp://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2013/01/tenfourfox-19-beta-judgment-day.html How well does it work for you (I assume 7400)? (been one of those months; slowly catching up with LEM stuff). Just updated to 19.0 now. QuickSilver (7450), OS X 10.5.8. When I feed TenFourFox urls by pasting it works quite well. Seems a bit faster than Safari (w/ Leopard-WebKit). So far no crashes. Um... I don't use Firefox very often, so this is perhaps just a FF usage issue... With the bookmarks window open, I told it to import data from another browser. It listed Safari and all the items were checked. It finished in about 1 second. But then where did the bookmarks go? They're not showing up on that window or menu. Try clicking in the Bookmarks menu, the first option: Show All Bookmarks (I don't know if is really this option, mine is in portuguese). For default, the Firefox don't put the bookmarks into menu, you need to move it to there. -- Rafael Henrique da Silva Faria -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TenFourFox 19
At 3:21 PM -0300 02/19/2013, Rafael Henrique Faria wrote: [HTML removed] Um... I don't use Firefox very often, so this is perhaps just a FF usage issue... With the bookmarks window open, I told it to import data from another browser. It listed Safari and all the items were checked. It finished in about 1 second. But then where did the bookmarks go? They're not showing up on that window or menu. Try clicking in the Bookmarks menu, the first option: Show All Bookmarks (I don't know if is really this option, mine is in portuguese). For default, the Firefox don't put the bookmarks into menu, you need to move it to there. I've got that window open. All I see are the default bookmarks, none of the thousands I imported. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TenFourFox 19
Um... I don't use Firefox very often, so this is perhaps just a FF usage issue... With the bookmarks window open, I told it to import data from another browser. It listed Safari and all the items were checked. It finished in about 1 second. But then where did the bookmarks go? They're not showing up on that window or menu. It's a bug. I fixed this bug on 17.0.2 but forgot to backport it to 19. It will be fixed in 20. The workaround is do the import in 17.0.x, and then 19 will pick them up. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- When you're in love, the whole world is German! -- Hogan's Heroes -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TenFourFox 19
At 12:06 PM -0800 02/19/2013, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Um... I don't use Firefox very often, so this is perhaps just a FF usage issue... With the bookmarks window open, I told it to import data from another browser. It listed Safari and all the items were checked. It finished in about 1 second. But then where did the bookmarks go? They're not showing up on that window or menu. It's a bug. I fixed this bug on 17.0.2 but forgot to backport it to 19. It will be fixed in 20. The workaround is do the import in 17.0.x, and then 19 will pick them up. aahh. Ok. Thx! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
TenFourFox 19
YUM. http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2013/01/tenfourfox-19-beta-judgment-day.html Thanks, Cameron! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox 19
YUM. http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2013/01/tenfourfox-19-beta-judgment-day.html How well does it work for you (I assume 7400)? -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Do you think I could buy back my introduction to you? -- Groucho Marx -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
TenFourFox missing bookmarks
Hi I now have the latest TenFourFox and still do not have bookmarks - I try to import from safari but nothing appears after hitting 'done'. Also, nothing happens when I ask for a new bookmarks folder and saving a bookmark (command+D) generates nothing. I have tried restoring permissions (one font in error) and verified hdd. Does anyone have any suggestions, please. Ged On 28 /02/ 2012, at 18:13, geraldcornish wrote: Hi Just upgraded to TenFourFox 10.0.2 and I have no bookmarks! The bookmarks bar is visible but empty, the showallbookmarks shows an empty screen. Import Data From Another Browser (Safari) appears to work but shows nothing. Import Bookmarks from HTML also fails to work - the file can be opened directly in TenFourFox and clearly shows the bookmarks with appropriate Safari bookmark folder name. Restore from backup didn't work but that may be because I haven't made a bookmarks backup. I have tried these options one at a time with a quit and reopen of TenFourFox and all together with no difference. I have also performed Repair Disc Permissions with DiscUtility to no avail. Any ideas out there - they will be much appreciated. Ged Pismo 400/1GB OS 10.4.11 all up to date. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox missing bookmarks
Hi I now have the latest TenFourFox and still do not have bookmarks - I try to import from safari but nothing appears after hitting 'done'. Also, nothing happens when I ask for a new bookmarks folder and saving a bookmark (command+D) generates nothing. I have tried restoring permissions (one font in error) and verified hdd. I can't replicate any of these issues in either 10.0.3 or 11. It does indeed sound like a permissions problem, and repairing permissions does not fix everything, only the ones that Disk Utility specifically knows about. I'd look at the specific permissions on your profile, which is usually in your home directory, Library, Application Support, Mozilla Firefox. Short of that, you could try deleting that folder altogether, since you have no bookmarks anyway, and see if it is recreated correctly. Otherwise, I'm sorry, but since I can't cause the problem myself I don't have any other suggestions for you. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Birth, n.: The first and direst of all disasters. -- Ambrose Bierce -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox missing bookmarks
On 16 /03/ 2012, at 00:13, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Hi I now have the latest TenFourFox and still do not have bookmarks - I try to import from safari but nothing appears after hitting 'done'. Also, nothing happens when I ask for a new bookmarks folder and saving a bookmark (command+D) generates nothing. I have tried restoring permissions (one font in error) and verified hdd. I can't replicate any of these issues in either 10.0.3 or 11. It does indeed sound like a permissions problem, and repairing permissions does not fix everything, only the ones that Disk Utility specifically knows about. I'd look at the specific permissions on your profile, which is usually in your home directory, Library, Application Support, Mozilla Firefox. Short of that, you could try deleting that folder altogether, since you have no bookmarks anyway, and see if it is recreated correctly. Otherwise, I'm sorry, but since I can't cause the problem myself I don't have any other suggestions for you. Cameron, thanks for the tip - it worked as you thought. I started t4f and imported safari data at the initial request and all is well. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox missing bookmarks
Cameron, thanks for the tip - it worked as you thought. I started t4f and imported safari data at the initial request and all is well. Excellent! -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Business is war. -- Jack Tramiel --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox/TenFourFox
Previously, at 1:00 AM -0600 1/8/12, as Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: On older PPC Macs I believe the final PPC version of Safari 5.0.6(5533.22.3) currently offers the most HTML5 video compatibility. Firefox TenFourFox only support Ogg Theora WebM and don't support mpeg4 or H.264. That said, I believe YouTube uses WebM for HTML5 so both browsers should work? What's best with OSX 10.4.11 ( I have BW with a 600 MHz PowerPC G4 and 1 GB RAM) -- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Arthur C. Clarke -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
The address bar is where you type in the url of the website you want to visit OK. But where is the address bar? Mel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Because of some daft programmers who decided that we don't need Flash anymore on the Internet, Flash as well as every other plugin are disabled by default in TFF6 and higher. You have three options for dealing with Flash content: 1) Install both TFF5 and TFF7 and use one/other for flash/noflash (although you cant run more than one at a time) 2) Use other software to handle Flash videos (MacTubes for Youtube, etc) 3) Follow these steps to enable plugins in TFF6+: 1) Type into addressbar about:config 2) Accept disclaimer 3) Search plugins 4) Switch the option enable plugins (or something like that) to true 5) Restart TFF I like 3 the best. Don't you? Fair disclaimer: Flash 10.1 doesn't work on some sites and has security holes in it; proceed at own risk. With endless love, Illirik Smirnov (3nk1) Chaotic Neutral since 1997 PGP doesn't work as well as you think it does. If you would use it, just meet me face to face. Nonetheless, if this message is signed, my public key is in the MIT database under my name. On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:35 PM, QuoVadis eelcovanv...@home.nl wrote: Does that mean that the latest release will not work with Flash Player 10.1? Would be a bit daft, since they're calling it TenFour. Or do you have to manually enable plugins? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
OK. But where is the address bar? Mel --- On Sat, 10/1/11, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: From: Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net Subject: Re: TenFourFox To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, October 1, 2011, 10:49 AM Yes, you have to enable plugins. I just learned how: Open TenFourFox and in the address bar type about config Scroll down to TenFourFox PlugIns and double click. This changes the default behavior of TenFourFox, which, (as a fellow Lister, Peter, just pointed out) is set to DISABLE. After making this simple adjustment, TenFourFox is behaving itself and displaying Flash media. Larry Does that mean that the latest release will not work with Flash Player 10.1? Would be a bit daft, since they're calling it TenFour. Or do you have to manually enable plugins? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Not really. TenFour refers to the OS, which is 10.4, or 10.4.11 when fully updated. Flash has got nothing to do with it. And yes, plugins are supposed to be enabled manually, in the newest TenFourFox version at least. Felix On Oct 1, 1:35 pm, QuoVadis eelcovanv...@home.nl wrote: Does that mean that the latest release will not work with Flash Player 10.1? Would be a bit daft, since they're calling it TenFour. Or do you have to manually enable plugins? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Also, everyone, be sure to remember that Flash 10.1 has severe security problems. If we all lobby Adobe to release an updated version (I emailed them way back when they dropped support telling them I wouldn't buy new software till they compiled new Flash for PPC), they might actually do it. Also, MacTubes is ridiculously slow. For instance, my PBG4 1.5GHz w/ 2GB RAM plays 240p video fine in TFF even with other things running (although 360p barely runs) whereas mactubes stutters. Illirik Smirnov Chaotic Neutral since 1997 PGP doesn't work as well as you think it does. If you would use it, just meet me face to face. Nonetheless, if this message is signed, my public key is in the MIT database under my name. On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:18 PM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: Den Lørdag, 1/10 2011, 07:49, Lawrence David Eden skrev: Yes, you have to enable plugins. I just learned how: Open TenFourFox and in the address bar type about config Scroll down to TenFourFox PlugIns and double click. This changes the default behavior of TenFourFox, which, (as a fellow Lister, Peter, just pointed out) is set to DISABLE. After making this simple adjustment, TenFourFox is behaving itself and displaying Flash media. Larry just so great, thank you so much - have been avoiding the upgrade from 5 for that exact reason now it works - love it and also a huge thanks to cameron for the time and effort put into this and classilla oh, btw about config didn't do it, just send me on to google - it had to be about:config - and it's the last line on the page /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Small correction: you must type about:config I left out the : in my previous message. Larry Thank you foe the tip, Larry. I didn't know it was possible to enable them. On Oct 1, 2011 4:03 PM, Lawrence David Eden mailto:lde...@comcast.netlde...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, you have to enable plugins. I just learned how: Open TenFourFox and in the address bar type about config Scroll down to TenFourFox PlugIns and double click. This changes the default behavior of TenFourFox, which, (as a fellow Lister, Peter, just pointed out) is set to DISABLE. After making this simple adjustment, TenFourFox is behaving itself and displaying Flash media. Larry Does that mean that the latest release will not work with Flash Player 10.1? Would be a bit daft, since they're calling it TenFour. Or do you have to manually enable plugins? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.comg3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-listhttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.comg3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-listhttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-listhttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Problem!! System MDD Dual 11.25 G4, 2GB DDR SDRAM Entry of about config in address bar results in Google search for 'about config'. What have I missed?? Chuck D. On Oct 1, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Peter wrote: Thank you foe the tip, Larry. I didn't know it was possible to enable them. On Oct 1, 2011 4:03 PM, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, you have to enable plugins. I just learned how: Open TenFourFox and in the address bar type about config Scroll down to TenFourFox PlugIns and double click. This changes the default behavior of TenFourFox, which, (as a fellow Lister, Peter, just pointed out) is set to DISABLE. After making this simple adjustment, TenFourFox is behaving itself and displaying Flash media. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Den Mandag, 3/10 2011, 06:37, Charles Davis skrev: Problem!! System MDD Dual 11.25 G4, 2GB DDR SDRAM Entry of about config in address bar results in Google search for 'about config'. What have I missed?? Chuck D. it should be about:config - and without the qoutes /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: Fair disclaimer: Flash 10.1 doesn't work on some sites and has security holes in it; proceed at own risk. Gee, I wonder why those 'daft programmers' don't want to support it in their browser anymore. 8-/ Not that it's very likely that someone still running 10.4 is going to be worth hacking directly, the issue is that there are numerous exploits out in the wild for Flash like this, and while your system may not lead to anything of value it can be used as a platform to launch other attacks outward. All very remote, yes, but more than enough reason to not support known vulnerabilities in your software. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
TenFourFox
Listers, I recently installed the upgrade of TenFourFox (7.0) on my Mac G4 running Tiger (10.4.11). TenFourFox is telling me that I need to install the Flash Player Plugin and here is where the trouble begins. I am unable to find the PlugIn on the Internet. The only versions that I can find are for Intel Macs. Interestingly, I also use Camino and it handles Flash just fine so I know that the plugin is somewhere in my System. Safari can also display Flash material. Can I copy the plugin that Camino uses and make TenFourFox see it as well? I need step by step instructions. Thanks, Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Plugins are disabled by the newest release On Oct 1, 2011 10:50 AM, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: Listers, I recently installed the upgrade of TenFourFox (7.0) on my Mac G4 running Tiger (10.4.11). TenFourFox is telling me that I need to install the Flash Player Plugin and here is where the trouble begins. I am unable to find the PlugIn on the Internet. The only versions that I can find are for Intel Macs. Interestingly, I also use Camino and it handles Flash just fine so I know that the plugin is somewhere in my System. Safari can also display Flash material. Can I copy the plugin that Camino uses and make TenFourFox see it as well? I need step by step instructions. Thanks, Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Does that mean that the latest release will not work with Flash Player 10.1? Would be a bit daft, since they're calling it TenFour. Or do you have to manually enable plugins? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
According to the Blog from TenFour, plugins are disabled and can not be enabled. Means Flashplayer won't work. On Oct 1, 2011 1:36 PM, QuoVadis eelcovanv...@home.nl wrote: Does that mean that the latest release will not work with Flash Player 10.1? Would be a bit daft, since they're calling it TenFour. Or do you have to manually enable plugins? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Yes, you have to enable plugins. I just learned how: Open TenFourFox and in the address bar type about config Scroll down to TenFourFox PlugIns and double click. This changes the default behavior of TenFourFox, which, (as a fellow Lister, Peter, just pointed out) is set to DISABLE. After making this simple adjustment, TenFourFox is behaving itself and displaying Flash media. Larry Does that mean that the latest release will not work with Flash Player 10.1? Would be a bit daft, since they're calling it TenFour. Or do you have to manually enable plugins? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
On Oct 1, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I recently installed the upgrade of TenFourFox (7.0) on my Mac G4 running Tiger (10.4.11). TenFourFox is telling me that I need to install the Flash Player Plugin TenFourFox no longer supports plugins. If you need Flash, you'll need to use Camino or some other browser that supports plugins. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Thank you foe the tip, Larry. I didn't know it was possible to enable them. On Oct 1, 2011 4:03 PM, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, you have to enable plugins. I just learned how: Open TenFourFox and in the address bar type about config Scroll down to TenFourFox PlugIns and double click. This changes the default behavior of TenFourFox, which, (as a fellow Lister, Peter, just pointed out) is set to DISABLE. After making this simple adjustment, TenFourFox is behaving itself and displaying Flash media. Larry Does that mean that the latest release will not work with Flash Player 10.1? Would be a bit daft, since they're calling it TenFour. Or do you have to manually enable plugins? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Peter wrote: Thank you foe the tip, Larry. I didn't know it was possible to enable them. Ditto on that, thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Den Lørdag, 1/10 2011, 07:49, Lawrence David Eden skrev: Yes, you have to enable plugins. I just learned how: Open TenFourFox and in the address bar type about config Scroll down to TenFourFox PlugIns and double click. This changes the default behavior of TenFourFox, which, (as a fellow Lister, Peter, just pointed out) is set to DISABLE. After making this simple adjustment, TenFourFox is behaving itself and displaying Flash media. Larry just so great, thank you so much - have been avoiding the upgrade from 5 for that exact reason now it works - love it and also a huge thanks to cameron for the time and effort put into this and classilla oh, btw about config didn't do it, just send me on to google - it had to be about:config - and it's the last line on the page /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
- Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: Hello PowerPC users! TenFourFox is FireFox 4 for PowerPC Macs running Tiger AND Leopard. (I've found the TenFourFox related topics in this group and the Tiger group…) There's even a short article from a popular German computer magazine: http://heise.de/-1233979 Translation (by Google): http://translate.google.com/translate?js=nprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1sl=detl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fheise.de%2F-1233979act=url This is all very promising. Now, at least the very fast G5 Power Macs running Mac OS 10.5 are not left out of future development (video like Flash and WebM). (Until no more security updates are coming for 10.5…) I doubt that video streaming will ever work on my G3 BW anyhow. But, as I've read, JavaScript should be speed-boosted too. http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ Go for it! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 FWIW: On my Tiger G4 dual 1GHz MDD, TenFourFox (7450) is graphically glitchy. For instance, YouTube has unresolved overlaps of the player on the background. It seems a little faster than Firefox 3.6, but not currently an option for me. It's nice that when you download and run TFF it uses all your Firefox resources but will let you go back to Firefox without any problems detected by me. I'd be interested in any others' experiences with TFF. I support the effort. - Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 09:32 +0200, Mac User #330250 wrote: Hello PowerPC users! TenFourFox is FireFox 4 for PowerPC Macs running Tiger AND Leopard. (I've found the TenFourFox related topics in this group and the Tiger group…) Howdy, I may actually have a Leopard system soon. I have a friend who is getting rid of a 1.2 GHz G4 iBook. The page at Firefox says an Intel architecture machine is recommended for Firefox 4. They don't say it is required. Is there some reason it won't work on the G4 iBook? http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/system-requirements.html I certainly don't care about Flash. I would not even consider installing it anyway. Have a good day, Ralph -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
- Ralph Green sfrea...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 09:32 +0200, Mac User #330250 wrote: Hello PowerPC users! TenFourFox is FireFox 4 for PowerPC Macs running Tiger AND Leopard. (I've found the TenFourFox related topics in this group and the Tiger group…) Howdy, I may actually have a Leopard system soon. I have a friend who is getting rid of a 1.2 GHz G4 iBook. The page at Firefox says an Intel architecture machine is recommended for Firefox 4. They don't say it is required. Is there some reason it won't work on the G4 iBook? http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/system-requirements.html I certainly don't care about Flash. I would not even consider installing it anyway. Have a good day, Ralph Flash is a virus, but necessary to take full use of the internet, at least for now. Firefox 3 is the best solution for me so far. - Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 07:56 +, schaf...@comcast.net wrote: Flash is a virus, but necessary to take full use of the internet, at least for now. Firefox 3 is the best solution for me so far. I have never installed Flash and there has been nothing on the web I missed. Sure, I don't see the dancing baloney, but I don't really miss it, either. It has been possible to view YouTube for years without Flash. It was a little difficult in the past, but pretty easy now. Ralph -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
At 2:47 AM -0500 4/30/2011, Ralph Green wrote: 1.2 GHz G4 iBook. The page at Firefox says an Intel architecture machine is recommended for Firefox 4. They don't say it is required. Is there some reason it won't work on the G4 iBook? Firefox 4, as built by Mozilla, DOES NOT contain PowerPC code. It is x86 ONLY. The *point* of TenFourFox is that it is a *PowerPC* build of Firefox 4. Cameron has put in an amazing amount of work to keep FF running on our older PowerPC-based Macs. Check it out! And if you have any problems with it, please let him know so he can fix! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
On Apr 30, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Dan wrote: Firefox 4, as built by Mozilla, DOES NOT contain PowerPC code. It is x86 ONLY. The *point* of TenFourFox is that it is a *PowerPC* build of Firefox 4. Cameron has put in an amazing amount of work to keep FF running on our older PowerPC-based Macs. Check it out! And if you have any problems with it, please let him know so he can fix! Cameron Kaiser, outstanding developer of TenFourFox and Classila, does not subscribe to the G-Group. Inquiries about such programs should be posted to the LEM Tiger Group and MacOS9 Group, respectively. Fabian Fang Manager of Tiger and MacOS9 Groups -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Will this affect TenFourFox too?
*WebKit best option for Camino as Mozilla drops Gecko embedding* http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/04/webkit-best-option-for-camino-as-mozilla-drops-gecko-embedding.ars OR http://bit.ly/i785z9 Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will this affect TenFourFox too?
Probably not... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will this affect TenFourFox too?
On Apr 1, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Tina K. wrote: *WebKit best option for Camino as Mozilla drops Gecko embedding* http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/04/webkit-best-option-for-camino-as-mozilla-drops-gecko-embedding.ars OR http://bit.ly/i785z9 No, TenFourFox is largely an optimized compile of Firefox; this change only affects apps that embed the Gecko rendering engine in a different UI framework. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
TenFourFox: A fork of Mozilla Firefox 4 for the Power Macintosh and Mac OS X Tiger PowerPC
Remember how you tried to update Firefox in Tiger and it didn't work? http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ This is from the Clasilla guys; it's optimized for each of the G processors. The devs promise "dramatically faster _javascript_, WebM video, compatibility with most Firefox add-ons, and HTML 5 and CSS 3 support." Preliminary testing indicates "pretty snappy" on Pismo 500 with gig-o-ram. V Mabus -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox: A fork of Mozilla Firefox 4 for the Power Macintosh and Mac OS X Tiger PowerPC
On 25/03/11 9:54 PM, Vic Mabus wrote: Remember how you tried to update Firefox in Tiger and it didn't work? http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ This is from the Clasilla guys; it's optimized for each of the G processors. The devs promise dramatically faster JavaScript, WebM video, compatibility with most Firefox add-ons, and HTML 5 and CSS 3 support http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/technology/. Preliminary testing indicates pretty snappy on Pismo 500 with gig-o-ram. V Mabus Alas, help for us poor, or shall, I say, cheap folks. Thanks, Vic. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox: A fork of Mozilla Firefox 4 for the Power Macintosh and Mac OS X Tiger PowerPC
On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Nestamicky wrote: On 25/03/11 9:54 PM, Vic Mabus wrote: Remember how you tried to update Firefox in Tiger and it didn't work? http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ This is from the Clasilla guys; it's optimized for each of the G processors. The devs promise dramatically faster JavaScript, WebM video, compatibility with most Firefox add-ons, and HTML 5 and CSS 3 support http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/technology/. Preliminary testing indicates pretty snappy on Pismo 500 with gig- o-ram. V Mabus Alas, help for us poor, or shall, I say, cheap folks. Thanks, Vic. The development of TenFourFox was announced and discussed on the LEM Tiger Group, the logical forum, months ago. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox: A fork of Mozilla Firefox 4 for the Power Macintosh and Mac OS X Tiger PowerPC
Thank you for reminding me about TenFourFox! I just did some browser benchmarking, and here are my results (Disclaimer: I am by no means a professional benchmarker!): I decided to give it a try on these machines and see what happens. I found a browser benchmark called Peacekeeper from Futuremark to really see which one is better. PowerMac G4 Graphite (1GHz Sonnet Encore/ST Upgrade Processor, 1.5GB PC100 SDRAM, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, 40GB IDE): (Higher is better) TenFourFox 4.0: 597 Camino 2.0.7: 256 Camino errored on an unresponsive Javascript, but was able to continue. These aren't the best comparisons since Camino is based off of Firefox 3 while TenFourFox is based off of Firefox 4, however Camino was updated 2 days ago, so it will be a while to wait until both distributions can be compared to each other with the same Firefox rendering engine. The difference is significant though, TenFourFox scores much better. PowerBook G4 (667MHz PowerPC G4, 1GB PC133 SDRAM, ATI Rage M6, 45GB Laptop IDE): (Higher is better) TenFourFox 4.0: 372 Camino: 165 TenFourFox repeated the same unresponsive Javascript error while Camino didn't this time, but also was able to continue. Interestingly enough, the scores were much lower overall than the Graphite. While the bus speed is 33mhz faster, the slower hard drive and lesser video card seemed to have a pretty big impact in performance. Overall, TenFourFox is now my perferred browser on my Ten Four machines! Mike On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote: On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Nestamicky wrote: On 25/03/11 9:54 PM, Vic Mabus wrote: Remember how you tried to update Firefox in Tiger and it didn't work? http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ This is from the Clasilla guys; it's optimized for each of the G processors. The devs promise dramatically faster JavaScript, WebM video, compatibility with most Firefox add-ons, and HTML 5 and CSS 3 support http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/technology/. Preliminary testing indicates pretty snappy on Pismo 500 with gig-o-ram. V Mabus Alas, help for us poor, or shall, I say, cheap folks. Thanks, Vic. The development of TenFourFox was announced and discussed on the LEM Tiger Group, the logical forum, months ago. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox: A fork of Mozilla Firefox 4 for the Power Macintosh and Mac OS X Tiger PowerPC
Sorry for the double-email, but I completely forgot about Safari. PowerMac G4 Graphite AGP (1GHz Sonnet Encore/ST Upgrade Processor, 1.5GB PC100 SDRAM, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, 40GB IDE): (Higher is better) Safari 4.1.3: *763* TenFourFox 4.0: *597* Camino 2.0.7: *256* Camino errored on an unresponsive Java script, but was able to continue. These aren't the best comparisons since Camino is based off of Firefox 3 while TenFourFox is based off of Firefox 4, however Camino was updated 2 days ago, so it will be a while to wait until both distributions can be compared to each other with the same Firefox rendering engine. The difference is significant though, TenFourFox scores much better, although not as well as Safari surprisingly. PowerBook G4 (667MHz PowerPC G4, 1GB PC133 SDRAM, ATI Rage M6, 45GB Laptop IDE): (Higher is better) Safari 4.1.3: *409* TenFourFox 4.0: *372* Camino: *165* TenFourFox repeated the same unresponsive Java script error while Camino didn't this time, but also was able to continue. Interestingly enough, the scores were much lower overall than the Graphite. While the bus speed is 33mhz faster, the slower hard drive and lesser video card seemed to have a pretty big impact in performance. Safari still scored the best out of the three, which was unexpected in both cases. Originally, I stated that TenFourFox is my new default, and it still is, but now I'm torn. Speed versus plug-in convenience... Mike On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Mike mik...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for reminding me about TenFourFox! I just did some browser benchmarking, and here are my results (Disclaimer: I am by no means a professional benchmarker!): I decided to give it a try on these machines and see what happens. I found a browser benchmark called Peacekeeper from Futuremark to really see which one is better. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
