Re: The need, the need for (browser) speed
At 11:54 PM -0500 2/17/2009, Dan Auerbach wrote: On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:25 PM, Dan wrote: I used to use Webkit and now I can't, unless I can figure out what specific plug-in(s) is bothering it. When I try to open it, I get a warning about Safari 3.2.1 having plug-ins installed. I have about 11 plug-ins. Does anyone know if there's a particular one or more that could be the culprit? Start with the InputManagers - move 'em out of ~/Library/InputManagers, to your desktop, then try Safari. Then do the same with your Internet-Plugins/. I had two input managers, magic menu and Ecamm which I removed and then started WebKit... no problem! I then updated it with the latest nightly build and now I fly. Magic Menu? This is the one that's part of StuffIt What an embarrassingly bad Mac product StuffIt has become! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The need, the need for (browser) speed
On Feb 18, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Dan wrote: Magic Menu? This is the one that's part of StuffIt What an embarrassingly bad Mac product StuffIt has become! Yes, I was surprised to find it in the Input Managers folder. I haven't used the full package of Stuffit Deluxe since v9 which is several years old. I thought that I had done a thorough search and destroy. But that item couldn't have been the culprit since its been there for a long time and never prevented my earlier use of Webkit. It had to be the other guy, Ecamm. dan_A = http://web.mac.com/danauerbach = --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The need, the need for (browser) speed
On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:25 PM, Dan wrote: I used to use Webkit and now I can't, unless I can figure out what specific plug-in(s) is bothering it. When I try to open it, I get a warning about Safari 3.2.1 having plug-ins installed. I have about 11 plug-ins. Does anyone know if there's a particular one or more that could be the culprit? Start with the InputManagers - move 'em out of ~/Library/InputManagers, to your desktop, then try Safari. Then do the same with your Internet-Plugins/. As usual, you were right on. I had two input managers, magic menu and Ecamm which I removed and then started WebKit... no problem! I then updated it with the latest nightly build and now I fly. Dan, thank you again for sharing your knowledge. dan_A = http://web.mac.com/danauerbach = --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The need, the need for (browser) speed
What a wonderful post. Maybe, just maybe, I will grow to love Firefox on my G3s again. I'd simply moved onto Safari. So, here we go again, completely deleting everything that mentions Firefox and installing the version from rpm. Thanks so much! What's webkit about? Dan wrote: RPM has posted powerpc optimized Firefox 3.0.6 builds - quite nice. http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/index.html And the current WebKit Nightly, on top of Safari 3.2.1 -- wow. I donno what they did, but it zooms thru acid3 much faster on my Smurf then previous builds! http://nightly.webkit.org/ ...Don't forget to turn off the check for fraudulent sites in Safari/WebKit. That lame feature really slows things down a lot! FWIW, - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The need, the need for (browser) speed
On Feb 13, 2009, at 8:37 PM, Dan wrote: The problem is that Apple is so far behind updates,,, the version they've given you in OS X is old old old. The latest WebKit is MUCH faster and more web-standards compliant. Hi, I used to use Webkit and now I can't, unless I can figure out what specific plug-in(s) is bothering it. When I try to open it, I get a warning about Safari 3.2.1 having plug-ins installed. If I continue opening WebKit, it quits. I've had plug-ins installed while I was using Webkit in the past but must have added something negative... I have about 11 plug-ins. Does anyone know if there's a particular one or more that could be the culprit? I created a pdf file of the plug-ins, 10 pages worth. I'm running Safari on a 800 MHz 15 Ti-book with 1 GB of RAM and using a 3 MB broadband network. dan_A = http://web.mac.com/danauerbach = --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The need, the need for (browser) speed
At 9:37 PM -0500 2/13/2009, Dan Auerbach wrote: 800 MHz 15 Ti-book with 1 GB of RAM OS? I used to use Webkit and now I can't, unless I can figure out what specific plug-in(s) is bothering it. When I try to open it, I get a warning about Safari 3.2.1 having plug-ins installed. The warning is standard. Most plug-ins / inputManagers are written against the released browsers. WebKit is simply making you aware that there is *something* non-standard there - so if you have problems, you'll remember to look there. If I continue opening WebKit, it quits. Look in your console log - there will be error messages there. Looks also for a crash log. have about 11 plug-ins. Does anyone know if there's a particular one or more that could be the culprit? Start with the InputManagers - move 'em out of ~/Library/InputManagers, to your desktop, then try Safari. Then do the same with your Internet-Plugins/. What'all do you have installed? In the playing I've done, I find so many have problems I keep dumping them all and just going back to using one - SafariBlock. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
The need, the need for (browser) speed
RPM has posted powerpc optimized Firefox 3.0.6 builds - quite nice. http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/index.html And the current WebKit Nightly, on top of Safari 3.2.1 -- wow. I donno what they did, but it zooms thru acid3 much faster on my Smurf then previous builds! http://nightly.webkit.org/ ...Don't forget to turn off the check for fraudulent sites in Safari/WebKit. That lame feature really slows things down a lot! FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
