Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
yersi...@cybernex.net wrote: > Stephen writes, > > your Inbox get too big. I'm an email pack rat too, I still have some > here from back in the 80's. And a pile that were converted from Rmail in > Emacs on Solaris. Anyways, I just helped a user at work because her > Tbird crashed - her Inbox just reached 4GB(!!!) so you probably have a > ways to go! My Inbox right now is at 1419 messages...> > > Oh cool, another Tbird user who is also an email pack rat! No, I don't > keep ABSOLUTELY EVERY SINGLE EMAIL I get, though. What I keep is: > anything with valuable pertinent info I either need or think I'll need, > as well as personal correspondence. Take my Macintosh folder as an > example, which has subfolders for every LEM list I've ever been on plus > a few folders for offlist LEM-Lister correspondences I've had: in > addition to saving my own posts/people's replies, if someone ELSE posts > a question to a list pertinent to a Mac I own or the OS I'm using > whether it applies right now or not or I think I might need the info > later on, I save it. I also save not only my own Swap List > correspondence/transactions, but also all good/bad seller Swap List > Feedback. Whenever I want to buy something on the Swap List and off the > top of my head I don't "know" the seller, I look him/her up in my list! > > Now I know I COULD get rid of the subfolders for lists I'm not on > anymore, but that's the "pack rat" in me: I don't want to! As for > correspondence: I keep both ends -- if I answer an email, I keep both > the one I received plus my reply. About 75% of my personal > correspondence is of the "brainstorming" and "troubleshooting" variety > (yes, even my non-Mac interests, which include microbiology, rat medical > care, detailed writers' worldbuilding/critique group memberships/story > exchanges, and, for the past three years, Sims gaming/modding/hacking). > As to the 25% of my non-Mac-related email which is purely social type > personal correspondence, I keep that because it's FUN, several years > later, to go back and read some of that stuff (even from people I'm no > longer in contact with) -- and some is sentimental (emails from/to my > boyfriend: the modern equivalent of "love letters" I guess). > > None of this goes all the way back to the 80s though, but that's only > because I didn't get my first computer (Mac Performa 475, OS 7.5.3) > until 1995! > > Thank you for the tips about keeping my Tbird inbox clean, but I'm not > just an email pack rat, I'm OCD about it (and the way I keep my Macs) in > terms of being Supremely Organized -- if only I would trouble to keep my > APARTMENT like I keep the contents of my Macs! Talk about a study in > contrasts, though! I would have to go out of town for several days to a > week (WITHOUT my iBook, that is, which ain't happenin'!) for 1419 emails > to even have a chance to pile up on my ISP's mailserver. As it is, email > gets checked several times a day. > > Of everything that comes in necessitating a reply, 80% gets same day > attention -- the rest within 2-4 days. In Claris Emailer I set it up so > that once I read an email from the inbox, it would automatically shunt > over to a box called Read Mail. I dunno if Tbird does that yet (I > couldn't find anything, but then again I'm still new to it), so for the > time being I made my own Read Mail folder, so after I read my email from > the Tbird inbox, I kick it over to Read Mail manually. That's one of the > pains in the neck, but that does get it out of the inbox...and maybe > I'll be able to make Tbird do it instead of me having to do it. Well > anyway, in CE, once a week I'd go through the Read Mail and Sent Mail > folders, switch the view to Date to From/To (which is Sender in Tbird, > which does have a Sent folder at least), and file all the email to > appropriate personal folders (I love the way my imported mail was > handled by Tbird: not only can I do the filing in Tbird just like I did > in CE, but I have it all in a main "Personal Logs" folder which I can > flippy triangle up so it looks nice and neat!). So far on Tbird I've > been filing daily, only because I still have yet to develop a "system" > for OCD Email Handling. Then again I did say I'm still in the > "adjustment phase' with it. Probably I should just break down and go to > the Tbird web site or click the Help, and see if I can find some kind of > user manual pdf of sorts, rather than keep on poking through > mysteriously on my own like I've been doing. > > I'm still on the G4 -- I guess I should finish up my Morning Coffee > email, flash drive Tbird update over to the iBook (to include this and > last night's emails), and make sure Tbird actually does send/receive > email from my ISP on Tbird as well as it's doing on the G4 so far. > > ~Yersinia. > > > > Now that you have it going, and your excitement is so genuine, I can lead you onto some great stuff out there. Like Firefox, Thu
Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
Stephen writes, Oh cool, another Tbird user who is also an email pack rat! No, I don't keep ABSOLUTELY EVERY SINGLE EMAIL I get, though. What I keep is: anything with valuable pertinent info I either need or think I'll need, as well as personal correspondence. Take my Macintosh folder as an example, which has subfolders for every LEM list I've ever been on plus a few folders for offlist LEM-Lister correspondences I've had: in addition to saving my own posts/people's replies, if someone ELSE posts a question to a list pertinent to a Mac I own or the OS I'm using whether it applies right now or not or I think I might need the info later on, I save it. I also save not only my own Swap List correspondence/transactions, but also all good/bad seller Swap List Feedback. Whenever I want to buy something on the Swap List and off the top of my head I don't "know" the seller, I look him/her up in my list! Now I know I COULD get rid of the subfolders for lists I'm not on anymore, but that's the "pack rat" in me: I don't want to! As for correspondence: I keep both ends -- if I answer an email, I keep both the one I received plus my reply. About 75% of my personal correspondence is of the "brainstorming" and "troubleshooting" variety (yes, even my non-Mac interests, which include microbiology, rat medical care, detailed writers' worldbuilding/critique group memberships/story exchanges, and, for the past three years, Sims gaming/modding/hacking). As to the 25% of my non-Mac-related email which is purely social type personal correspondence, I keep that because it's FUN, several years later, to go back and read some of that stuff (even from people I'm no longer in contact with) -- and some is sentimental (emails from/to my boyfriend: the modern equivalent of "love letters" I guess). None of this goes all the way back to the 80s though, but that's only because I didn't get my first computer (Mac Performa 475, OS 7.5.3) until 1995! Thank you for the tips about keeping my Tbird inbox clean, but I'm not just an email pack rat, I'm OCD about it (and the way I keep my Macs) in terms of being Supremely Organized -- if only I would trouble to keep my APARTMENT like I keep the contents of my Macs! Talk about a study in contrasts, though! I would have to go out of town for several days to a week (WITHOUT my iBook, that is, which ain't happenin'!) for 1419 emails to even have a chance to pile up on my ISP's mailserver. As it is, email gets checked several times a day. Of everything that comes in necessitating a reply, 80% gets same day attention -- the rest within 2-4 days. In Claris Emailer I set it up so that once I read an email from the inbox, it would automatically shunt over to a box called Read Mail. I dunno if Tbird does that yet (I couldn't find anything, but then again I'm still new to it), so for the time being I made my own Read Mail folder, so after I read my email from the Tbird inbox, I kick it over to Read Mail manually. That's one of the pains in the neck, but that does get it out of the inbox...and maybe I'll be able to make Tbird do it instead of me having to do it. Well anyway, in CE, once a week I'd go through the Read Mail and Sent Mail folders, switch the view to Date to From/To (which is Sender in Tbird, which does have a Sent folder at least), and file all the email to appropriate personal folders (I love the way my imported mail was handled by Tbird: not only can I do the filing in Tbird just like I did in CE, but I have it all in a main "Personal Logs" folder which I can flippy triangle up so it looks nice and neat!). So far on Tbird I've been filing daily, only because I still have yet to develop a "system" for OCD Email Handling. Then again I did say I'm still in the "adjustment phase' with it. Probably I should just break down and go to the Tbird web site or click the Help, and see if I can find some kind of user manual pdf of sorts, rather than keep on poking through mysteriously on my own like I've been doing. I'm still on the G4 -- I guess I should finish up my Morning Coffee email, flash drive Tbird update over to the iBook (to include this and last night's emails), and make sure Tbird actually does send/receive email from my ISP on Tbird as well as it's doing on the G4 so far. ~Yersinia. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
yersi...@cybernex.net wrote: > Stephen writes, > > Alaska and I just got off work! > > The best way to do this is to do a clean install of Thunderbird on the > new machine, start it up, let it create a default profile, then quit and > copy everything inside of the profile from the old machine to inside of > the profile on the new machine, replacing everything inside of the profile. > > Once in a great while the Tbird app gets mucked up on the old machine > and you may not know it, so it's always better to start off fresh. > > There. Let the flame war begin (donning flame proof clothes and heading > out to the barbecue!)> > > Ehhh, I won't start any flame wars with you. As it happens -- even > though I hadn't seen your email yet -- what you suggested is exactly > what I did. I didn't have Tbird ON the iBook yet, so, after "cleaning > up" my new Tbird mail database on the G4 with the full version of > Emailchemy, I copied Tbird's installation disk image, as well as the > ~users/Library/Thunderbird like Bruce suggested onto the flash drive, > and moved the whole thing into the iBook -- where I installed Tbird, > booted it, shut it down and copied in that folder to ~users/Library in > the iBook. Then I rebooted Tbird, checked my folders and... > > BEEYOUTEEFUL! Er, at least if I have to reference any emails while on > the iBook -- all of it made the transition. I haven't had opportunity to > test it online for send/receive email yet. I will probably do that > tomorrow. But I don't expect problems, I mean, Tbird is picking up and > sending my emails on the G4, as you can see! > > I'm still in the 'adjustment' phase with TBird -- I don't regret the > decision but after 13 solid years of using Claris Emailer, change is > definitely noticeable. I'm sure it'll only take me a week or two for my > brain, which you all know is shielded by a solid neutronium skull, to > fully kick into it. And in some respects, I'm actually enjoying the > newness! I liken my new Tbird experience to when I first got OS X, only > on a smaller scale since it's just an emailer, not a new operating > system -- I'm finding things some things I like better, finding other > things a pain in the neck, but the overall result is that I like it. > > Oh, a barbecue? Please pass me the spare ribs! :-) > > ~Yersinia. Glad you like it. One thing you do have to be careful about is letting your Inbox get too big. I'm an email pack rat too, I still have some here from back in the 80's. And a pile that were converted from Rmail in Emacs on Solaris. Anyways, I just helped a user at work because her Tbird crashed - her Inbox just reached 4GB(!!!) so you probably have a ways to go! My Inbox right now is at 1419 messages... Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
Stephen writes, Ehhh, I won't start any flame wars with you. As it happens -- even though I hadn't seen your email yet -- what you suggested is exactly what I did. I didn't have Tbird ON the iBook yet, so, after "cleaning up" my new Tbird mail database on the G4 with the full version of Emailchemy, I copied Tbird's installation disk image, as well as the ~users/Library/Thunderbird like Bruce suggested onto the flash drive, and moved the whole thing into the iBook -- where I installed Tbird, booted it, shut it down and copied in that folder to ~users/Library in the iBook. Then I rebooted Tbird, checked my folders and... BEEYOUTEEFUL! Er, at least if I have to reference any emails while on the iBook -- all of it made the transition. I haven't had opportunity to test it online for send/receive email yet. I will probably do that tomorrow. But I don't expect problems, I mean, Tbird is picking up and sending my emails on the G4, as you can see! I'm still in the 'adjustment' phase with TBird -- I don't regret the decision but after 13 solid years of using Claris Emailer, change is definitely noticeable. I'm sure it'll only take me a week or two for my brain, which you all know is shielded by a solid neutronium skull, to fully kick into it. And in some respects, I'm actually enjoying the newness! I liken my new Tbird experience to when I first got OS X, only on a smaller scale since it's just an emailer, not a new operating system -- I'm finding things some things I like better, finding other things a pain in the neck, but the overall result is that I like it. Oh, a barbecue? Please pass me the spare ribs! :-) ~Yersinia. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
yersi...@cybernex.net wrote: > Bruce writes, > > <~users/Library/Thunderbird which is where everything is stored.> > > THANKS! :-D I got it ALL done now: paid my Emailchemy shareware, cleaned > up the 'demo mess' with the real one and moved Thunderbird and My > Collection over to the iBook! > > Woo-hoo! :-) > > ~Yersinia. Shoot, got here a bit late. Strange, we live in Alaska time here in Alaska and I just got off work! The best way to do this is to do a clean install of Thunderbird on the new machine, start it up, let it create a default profile, then quit and copy everything inside of the profile from the old machine to inside of the profile on the new machine, replacing everything inside of the profile. Once in a great while the Tbird app gets mucked up on the old machine and you may not know it, so it's always better to start off fresh. There. Let the flame war begin (donning flame proof clothes and heading out to the barbecue!) Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
Bruce writes, <~users/Library/Thunderbird which is where everything is stored.> THANKS! :-D I got it ALL done now: paid my Emailchemy shareware, cleaned up the 'demo mess' with the real one and moved Thunderbird and My Collection over to the iBook! Woo-hoo! :-) ~Yersinia. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
On May 8, 2009, at 8:51 AM, yersi...@cybernex.net wrote: > > Hiya again Listers, > > I'm happy enough with the Thunderbird setup on my G4 to want to flash > drive it over to the iBook (also running 10.4.9). I'd like to confirm > what has to be copied so it'll function correctly on the > iBook...here's > what "common sense" tells me I need: > > Thunderbird.app (from Applications). > > Any .plist stuff for Thunderbird (in ~users/Library/Preferences). > > Am I missing anything? ~users/Library/Thunderbird which is where everything is stored. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
Hiya again Listers, I'm happy enough with the Thunderbird setup on my G4 to want to flash drive it over to the iBook (also running 10.4.9). I'd like to confirm what has to be copied so it'll function correctly on the iBook...here's what "common sense" tells me I need: Thunderbird.app (from Applications). Any .plist stuff for Thunderbird (in ~users/Library/Preferences). Am I missing anything? Thank you, ~Yersinia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
Hiya again Listers, I'm happy enough with the Thunderbird setup on my G4 to want to flash drive it over to the iBook (also running 10.4.9). I'd like to confirm what has to be copied so it'll function correctly on the iBook...here's what "common sense" tells me I need: Thunderbird.app (from Applications). Any .plist stuff for Thunderbird (in ~users/Library/Preferences). Am I missing anything? Thank you, ~Yersinia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
