what's esata good for? WAS: eSata / Optical drive possible?

2010-06-22 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

Is there anybody out there who has successfully gotten a sata blue- 
ray drive in an external esata enclosure to work?


Not on a Mac, there is no software support for Blu-ray playback in  
OS X. Remember, Steve Jobs said Apple was skipping Blu-ray because  
of the excessive licensing fees involved.



what about 3rd party software?


Yes, you must boot Windows directly if you want Blu-ray playback on  
your Mac.


In the reverse scenario, there is the x264 project http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=328 
 to place Blu-ray quality/compatible content onto normal DVD5   
DVD9 discs (which can be played in a standard Blu-ray player). VLC  
is supporting this on Mac, so while you can't play a real Blu-ray  
disc on a Mac, you can play a DVD5 or DVD9 standard DVD with Blu-ray  
quality/compatible content on a Mac if it's been created with x264  
codec.





Ok, throw blu-ray out the door... question: can I use an esata optical  
drive enclosure with a sata optical drive (non blu-ray) inside? or is  
esata only good for external storage. Jeff


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Re: what's esata good for? WAS: eSata / Optical drive possible?

2010-06-22 Thread Peter Haas


On Jun 22, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

Ok, throw blu-ray out the door... question: can I use an esata  
optical drive enclosure with a sata optical drive (non blu-ray)  
inside? or is esata only good for external storage.


You're better off using Firewire, if available, or USB 2.0, if  
available, for an external optical drive.



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eSata / Optical drive possible?

2010-06-16 Thread Jeffrey Engle
what kind of eSata pci card do I need to have external optical drive  
function? Is there anybody out there who has successfully gotten a  
sata blue-ray drive in an external esata enclosure to work? what about  
3rd party software?


Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

My Mac Information:
Power Mac G5 (Early 2005 Model)
Dual 2.3ghz
4 gb DDR SDRAM
Leopard 10.5.8 (Build 9L31a)
Firmtek/Seritek 1V4 (Rom v. 5.1.3)
G5-Jive w/3 500gb WD HD's
Samsung SyncMaster 245bw 24









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Re: eSata / Optical drive possible?

2010-06-16 Thread john CARMONNE


On Jun 16, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

what kind of eSata pci card do I need to have external optical  
drive function? Is there anybody out there who has successfully  
gotten a sata blue-ray drive in an external esata enclosure to  
work? what about 3rd party software?


Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

My Mac Information:
Power Mac G5 (Early 2005 Model)
Dual 2.3ghz
4 gb DDR SDRAM
Leopard 10.5.8 (Build 9L31a)
Firmtek/Seritek 1V4 (Rom v. 5.1.3)
G5-Jive w/3 500gb WD HD's
Samsung SyncMaster 245bw 24



I have the same machine as you except mine's a Dual 2.7 6GB 10TB  I  
have the same Firmtek card and Jive FIVE also.
I did in the beginning haave a problem with the external port on the  
SATA card but it turned out to be the WD MyBook drive. After I got  
new drive enclosures I'm OK. I haven't tried an optical but I see no  
reason not to work.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my TiBook 500




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Re: eSata / Optical drive possible?

2010-06-16 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Jun 16, 2010, at 8:16 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:



On Jun 16, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

what kind of eSata pci card do I need to have external optical  
drive function? Is there anybody out there who has successfully  
gotten a sata blue-ray drive in an external esata enclosure to  
work? what about 3rd party software?


Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

My Mac Information:
Power Mac G5 (Early 2005 Model)
Dual 2.3ghz
4 gb DDR SDRAM
Leopard 10.5.8 (Build 9L31a)
Firmtek/Seritek 1V4 (Rom v. 5.1.3)
G5-Jive w/3 500gb WD HD's
Samsung SyncMaster 245bw 24



I have the same machine as you except mine's a Dual 2.7 6GB 10TB  I  
have the same Firmtek card and Jive FIVE also.
I did in the beginning haave a problem with the external port on the  
SATA card but it turned out to be the WD MyBook drive. After I got  
new drive enclosures I'm OK. I haven't tried an optical but I see no  
reason not to work.




John,
	I haven't bought the optical drive yet, hoping to find someone that's  
been there already... Jeff  ps. what in the world do you need 10TB for?


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Re: eSata / Optical drive possible?

2010-06-16 Thread john CARMONNE


On Jun 16, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:



On Jun 16, 2010, at 8:16 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:



On Jun 16, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

what kind of eSata pci card do I need to have external optical  
drive function? Is there anybody out there who has successfully  
gotten a sata blue-ray drive in an external esata enclosure to  
work? what about 3rd party software?


Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

My Mac Information:
Power Mac G5 (Early 2005 Model)
Dual 2.3ghz
4 gb DDR SDRAM
Leopard 10.5.8 (Build 9L31a)
Firmtek/Seritek 1V4 (Rom v. 5.1.3)
G5-Jive w/3 500gb WD HD's
Samsung SyncMaster 245bw 24



I have the same machine as you except mine's a Dual 2.7 6GB 10TB   
I have the same Firmtek card and Jive FIVE also.
I did in the beginning haave a problem with the external port on  
the SATA card but it turned out to be the WD MyBook drive. After I  
got new drive enclosures I'm OK. I haven't tried an optical but I  
see no reason not to work.




John,
   I haven't bought the optical drive yet, hoping to find someone  
that's been there already... Jeff  ps. what in the world do you  
need 10TB for?



I have all my software images, iTunes and DVD images, That's just the  
internal stuff for fast network access, I find external drives to be  
a PITA sometimes. My Stanley Steamer  (PM G5 liquid cooled) is a  
real work horse with everyting SATA internal ealily rip and burn two  
at a time. A word to to wise, I would lean twoard Pioneer optical  
drives on the Macs I've had trouble with all the others.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my TiBook 500




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Re: eSata / Optical drive possible?

2010-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford

On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

Is there anybody out there who has successfully gotten a sata blue- 
ray drive in an external esata enclosure to work?


Not on a Mac, there is no software support for Blu-ray playback in OS  
X. Remember, Steve Jobs said Apple was skipping Blu-ray because of the  
excessive licensing fees involved.



what about 3rd party software?


Yes, you must boot Windows directly if you want Blu-ray playback on  
your Mac.


In the reverse scenario, there is the x264 project http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=328 
 to place Blu-ray quality/compatible content onto normal DVD5  DVD9  
discs (which can be played in a standard Blu-ray player). VLC is  
supporting this on Mac, so while you can't play a real Blu-ray disc on  
a Mac, you can play a DVD5 or DVD9 standard DVD with Blu-ray quality/ 
compatible content on a Mac if it's been created with x264 codec.


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Re: eSata / Optical drive possible?

2010-06-16 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

Is there anybody out there who has successfully gotten a sata blue- 
ray drive in an external esata enclosure to work?


Not on a Mac, there is no software support for Blu-ray playback in  
OS X. Remember, Steve Jobs said Apple was skipping Blu-ray because  
of the excessive licensing fees involved.



what about 3rd party software?


Yes, you must boot Windows directly if you want Blu-ray playback on  
your Mac.


In the reverse scenario, there is the x264 project http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=328 
 to place Blu-ray quality/compatible content onto normal DVD5   
DVD9 discs (which can be played in a standard Blu-ray player). VLC  
is supporting this on Mac, so while you can't play a real Blu-ray  
disc on a Mac, you can play a DVD5 or DVD9 standard DVD with Blu-ray  
quality/compatible content on a Mac if it's been created with x264  
codec.




Ok, so much for blue-ray. another question, what about esata with  
DVD-DL in an external inclosure?  two magic words: esata  5.25  
enclosure with any compatible superdrive in it? any experience? Jeff


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