Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Ron Onstenk
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Henri Girard wrote:
 I don't know if you know it but openoffice 3 has an import of acrobat which 
 is not bad though in beta version
  
 

Yeah right and when the pdf is protected against print and copy/past and the 
developers of OO are
honest they import that too and handle following those restrictions.
So you can read it and that's it. :)

Ron_1st


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Re: [Gambas-user] new user

2008-09-02 Thread Doriano Blengino
Szenográdi Norbert Péter ha scritto:
 Hi all.

 Im a new member on gambas-user-list.

 I have some quession:
 - How can I send a datas to other form..
   
There are two ways.
1 - In the project properties, you can set Controls of forms are 
public. Once this is done, you can address/refer to controls on other 
forms by their name, i.e. Form2.label1.text = . This option is 
global to the project: all the form have public controls or none.

2 - As each form is a class, it can have public variables and methods. 
You can declare PUBLIC variables and access them from outside the form. 
If you want the form react in some way, this is not enough; after 
setting a variable you must call a public method declared in the form, 
which can manipulate its controls. This can be done in a single step: 
write a public method having some parameter, then call that method 
passing the data you want. That method can use the data you passed and 
do what is needed.

For example, suppose you have a main form which, at some point, opens 
another form as a status form. This StatusForm has a Label1 on it, 
showing some message. If controls are public (first solution), then you 
simply write in the main:

StatusForm.Label1.Text = Opening data file...
WAIT   ' this is required to update instantly the screen

Using the second way runs like this. In the StatusForm code (.class 
file), declare a public method like this:

PUBLIC SUB UpdateMessage(st AS String)
  Label1.Text = st
  WAIT
END

At this point, in the main program, you can call: 
StatusForm.UpdateMessage(Opening data file...)

 - How can I see any -manual inserted- data in Tableview and/or
 Gridview..
   
Look at the manual page about GridView - it contains an example on how 
to set grid dimensions (number of row and columns), and fill them by 
code. About to see them... I don't understand the problem; provided that 
the event loop is called, then you will see any data a Gridview is 
filled with.

Email again if you have still problems.



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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread gambas
To get back to the topic. :-)
I think it's a very very good idea to take the book as a basis for 
documentation in a wiki.  But what is needed is the permission of J.R. and/or 
the publisher. 
With respect to J.R.s situation, we could try to contact the publisher of the 
book. When they say no it is no...but it's an answer. Perhaps they can tell 
us, who's responsible for granting rights and permissions.

Here is my situation...and I know, I'm not allone with this.
I never coded in any OO-language. ...and I never designed a 
GUI-program. ...but I like Gambas so much. ...and there is either old or no 
documentation. For a rookie like me, at the moment coding in Gambas means: 
Hacking one hour and gathering the needed information eight hours. Looking 
into the PDF-book, searching the wiki, scanning the mailinglist archives, 
analyzing other people code sniplets in the internet and so on. ...it's a 
little bit frustrating. 
It would be so pity, when Gambas doesn't get the acception, it is owing.

Sorry for my poor English ...it's not my native language.

Greetz
Stevie


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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Stefano Palmeri
Fabien, bad idea to spread the world with J.R. health conditions.
It's against privacy law on many countries, unless J.R. gave you
permission to do that. I think it's a good idea removing
that message from Gambas online archives. 
Benoit, can you do it?

Best regards,

Stefano Palmeri

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Re: [Gambas-user] new user

2008-09-02 Thread Kari Laine
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Doriano Blengino 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Look at the manual page about GridView - it contains an example on how
 to set grid dimensions (number of row and columns), and fill them by
 code. About to see them... I don't understand the problem; provided that
 the event loop is called, then you will see any data a Gridview is
 filled with.


Thanks for good info. Could you please tell me what you are referring with
manual page about GridView? I could not find it.

Best Regards
Kari
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[Gambas-user] ByRef

2008-09-02 Thread gambas
Hello List!

I've switched to development version 3.0 and I'm trying to get rid of this 
ByRef thing. I wonder, if someone could explane the syntax to me!

Thanks in advance!!

Greetz
Stevie



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Re: [Gambas-user] ByRef

2008-09-02 Thread Emil Tchekov
Hello Stevie,

If this is similar to the ByRef from VB, there is following to be said:

In Subroutine or Function that expects parameters passed from other part of
your program there are two possibilities to pass them

By Value (ByVal) or by Reference (ByRef).

First one means that your Sub gets only the Value and does NOT change the
variable that was passed in.

Passing by Reference is almoust the same as the pointer concept from C
language, INTERN the address of the var is passed so the Value CAN be
changed inside the Subroutine.

Hereby you must be carefull, sometime passing ByRef can spare time and
ressources, but it can also be (used without deeper mean) a source of hardly
to track bugs...


kind regards

Emil

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Hello List!

I've switched to development version 3.0 and I'm trying to get rid of this
ByRef thing. I wonder, if someone could explane the syntax to me!

Thanks in advance!!

Greetz
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Re: [Gambas-user] ByRef

2008-09-02 Thread Emil Tchekov
Forgot to gave you example (VB)


sub main()

dim a as integer

a=1

debug.print a, pr1(a)
debug.print a, pr2(a)
debug.print a

end sub


private sub pr1(byval a)

a=2

return a

end sub


private sub pr2(byref a)

a=2

return a

end sub


result will be as follows

1   2

1* 2

2 (!)


*As you can see on the first sub the var a is local to your sub, it was
changed (returns 2), but the passed a has stil value 1

(!) in the second procedure the passed var a was changed! (the a that was
defined in the sub main!)



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I've switched to development version 3.0 and I'm trying to get rid of this
ByRef thing. I wonder, if someone could explane the syntax to me!

Thanks in advance!!

Greetz
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[Gambas-user] shell

2008-09-02 Thread Mike
Hi all

 

I am trying to run the terminal with input from the gambas shell command.
Looks like I have it wrong, any help please.

 

SHELL /home/mike/Desktop/Terminal espeak Hello 

 

Regards all

Mike

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Re: [Gambas-user] Q:how to save a file.png into Postgresql

2008-09-02 Thread Rolf Schmidt
Hello Richard

 Dies at the line containing 'Coct' with message: unknown identifier

 but I'm sure this way is good, as I can remember reading something about
 this in the postgres doc's but couldn't figure out how to do the
 substitution.

OK, I thougt it is a Gambas converting function, but it isn't.
It should convert a given number into an octal number, return the number as a 
string.
So here it is:

PRIVAT FUNCTION COct(num as Integer) as String
  DIM octnumber AS NEW Interger[]
  DIM octstring as String

  octnumber.Add(int(num / 64))
  octnumber.Add(int((num MOD 64) / 8 ))
  octnumber.Add((num Mod 64) MOD 8)
  octstring = octnumber[0]  octnumber[1]  octnumber[2]
  RETURN octstring
END

 Next step?

Test it.

Fine regards
Rolf


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Re: [Gambas-user] ByRef

2008-09-02 Thread gambas
Am Dienstag, 2. September 2008 12:06:09 schrieb Emil Tchekov:
 Forgot to gave you example (VB)


 sub main()

   dim a as integer

   a=1

   debug.print a, pr1(a)
   debug.print a, pr2(a)
   debug.print a

 end sub


 private sub pr1(byval a)

   a=2

   return a

 end sub


 private sub pr2(byref a)

   a=2

   return a

 end sub


 result will be as follows

 1   2

 1* 2

 2 (!)


 *As you can see on the first sub the var a is local to your sub, it was
 changed (returns 2), but the passed a has stil value 1

 (!) in the second procedure the passed var a was changed! (the a that was
 defined in the sub main!)

Hi Emil,

thanks for your reply! ...it helped to understand the concepts and the syntax. 
Meanwhile I got it running. Gambas wants the Byref twice! Once by calling 
the procedure and a second time in the header of the function.

Sub Main

DIM sResult as String
sResult = 
GetData(Byref sResult)
Print sResult  \n
End


Public Sub GetData(ByRef sResult As String)
  
 sResult = Hello
 
End

Greetz
Stevie


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Re: [Gambas-user] Nice book of Gambas

2008-09-02 Thread Kari Laine
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Dienstag, 2. September 2008 17:16:10 schrieb Ron_1st:
   If I would knew that this going to start this heated discussion I would
   not have posted it in the first place...
 
  No problem of a heated discussion for me.
 Full Ack!

  I think it just only good to try to get the real permision.
 After reading the licence, any other strategy would be a crime!

  
   http://www.buybooksontheweb.com/
  
   There is a contact on the page. Someone with good english should write
   proposition to them.
   Possibly discuss it here.
   But I am quite sure the answer from the publisher is NO.
 I would do itbut English is not my native language. :-(

 Perhaps (at a first step) we should create a list of arguments, why the
 publisher should grant us permission to modify the books content.
 ...and to be honest: I don't think, that they say: NO ...because:
 - Meanwhile the book is overaged ...something about 50%
 - With every new release of Gambas it becomes older and olderand our
 Benoit is a hard-working guy! ;-)
 - J.R. never updated the book...it's (too???) much work to update it in an
 one-man-show.
 - The book is free for downloading. ...reading it, to become an overview
 regarding Gambas is okay...but, because of its age, it's no reliable
 reference. ...only a few people would pay for the print. ...so making money
 with the book is a fading process.

 ...pps! ...I created a list of arguments! ;-)

I think you made a good summary. Another thing might be that publisher might
get updated book to publish. I mean some people want the real thing. I have
bought - I think three at least - Rubini's device driver book, samba-book, a
Linux kernel book, and a linux programming book. It is nice to have the real
thing - harddisks tend to crash :-)

And as I wrote earlier add-space for the publisher is valuable thing these
days.

Now we need a volunteer to write a first draft.

Best Regards
Kari Laine
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Re: [Gambas-user] Q:how to save a file.png into Postgresql

2008-09-02 Thread richard terry
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:48:55 pm you wrote:
Ok, that got me a bit further: This is the resultant (failed) insert query .
First try using $$ as the delimiters as per my code gives this and fails:

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clin_consult.temp_image(piccie)values($$\\211PNG\\015\\012\\032\\012\\000\\000\\000\\015IHDR\\000\\000\\000\\232\\000\\000\\000\\311\\010\\002\\000\\000\\000T\\207\\274\\031\\000\\000\\005\\266IDATx\\234\\355\\235\\331\\266\\2330\\020\\004\\345\\234\\374\\377/\\223\\007\\345\\020\\007\\373\\012!f\\351i\\272\\236\\262\\330
 
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Re: [Gambas-user] new user

2008-09-02 Thread Stephen Bungay
   Yeah there are man pages for things... but the conventional man pages 
don't apply to GAMBAS and the components. :)

Kari Laine wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Stephen Bungay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Kari means go to the online help.

   Select the little question mark '?' to the right of the 'tools' menu
 at the top of the GAMBAS IDE. Then select 'Help Browswer' and when it
 appears you will see on the left side of the window a list of items
 entitled 'Gambas components'.

 
 I really know this :-))) But that man gridview confused me because I
 thought there are man pages for things
 
 
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Re: [Gambas-user] Books about compilers and interpreters

2008-09-02 Thread Kari Laine
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Kari Laine [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 Could we collect to this thread list of books which are good about
 compiler and interpreter design.

 Forget first wrong list second amazon.co.uk search compilers and there is
ton to select.

Kari
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