[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #858: serial port implementation constants are bad and uncompleted!/miscdocumented!

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http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.858=L21haW4-

Comment #10 by gbWilly GAMBOS:

So, is everything as expected now for you?
Does the code do what the documentation says?

In short, can the bug be closed?



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Re: [Gambas-user] new web page at gambas.sourgeforce.net has "fake" links

[PICCORO McKAY Lenz]

i always have typos inclusivelly in my native languaje, i hate the
keyboards!.. th keys are too weaks and i cannot type fast!

hey Benoit, i made important notes round the new gb.web.form in
development component, please read carefully!

2015-12-05 22:58 GMT-04:30, Dimitris Anogiatis :
> Just as an FYI there's a couple of typos on the title of the email.
>
> It was reported that gambas.sourgeforce.net had fake links
> when it should have been gambas.sourceforge.net
>
> The first URL only has a generic landing page (thus the "fake" links)
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Benoît Minisini <
> gam...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> Le 04/12/2015 20:53, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a écrit :
>> > umm the compiled program itself its a cgi ?
>> >
>> > the gb.web.form its a great  feature!!
>> > Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
>> > http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>> >
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> And when you check the 'gb.httpd' component, it becomes an autonomous
>> web server with your project embedded as a CGI script inside. I.e. one
>> Gambas program that you just have to run as a global service on your
>> server.
>>
>> This is what is used by the IDE by default when you debug it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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[Gambas-user] [Gambas Bug Tracker] Bug #859: Report preview, caption label use English

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http://gambaswiki.org/bugtracker/edit?object=BUG.859=L21haW4-

Comment #2 by gbWilly GAMBOS:

In Dutch we also use 'recto verso', it comes from Latin I presume.

I guess in English it would be: 'both sides'.
But English is not my mother tongue, so maybe someone native to English can 
confirm if this is the proper English translation.



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Re: [Gambas-user] New gb.web.form component

[Benoît Minisini]

Le 06/12/2015 14:45, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a écrit :
> Hi Benoit and others.. there's many things here that must be take carefully
>
> 1) take in consideration stabilitiy in words of changes of the web
> sites/apps, everyday are changing and the browsers force that! the
> app, javascript, ajax, and those stupids that forces developers to
> change and change anc change on all the new day always change also..
>
> This can broke the forwad compatibility o gambas, remenber any older
> gambas app in series will compile in nwe version, example my APP-3.4.0
> can be build in gambas 3.8.3 and runs without change, THAT ITS NOT IN
> THE WEB DEVELOPEMNT wordl!
>
> A thing that gambas have its the consistency in development word,
> aditions and aditions but nothing break the things made in the past!
> In the web development word that's its not!
>
> 2) due the firts fact, the development of that will take more thant
> xpected, so a idea can be separate the project!, BUT this will means
> more workload for manpowers and for Benoit!

Please don't take things too much emotionally. I suggest that you look 
deeply in the gb.web.form component and understand how it works concretely.

As I have already said, the browser is used a bit like a graphical 
terminal. So if it decides not to be backward-compatible, Gambas cannot 
do much against that. Exactly like with QT or GTK+.

>
>
> AND NOW SOME NOTES:
>> create an application entirely in javascript that will be run inside the
>> browser (like Google docs for example).
> i dont like, due today the web apps take tooo much cpu process, due
> that! also on every day changes and the browsers change and the users
> never have peace, always pending "update" the browser!
> SO THIS WIL IMPACT IN THE GUI? and in gambas gui of web  component?
> so obviously this will impact in the development and benoit time dedication!
>
> CGI IMPORTANT NOTE
>> Do understand that the web application is a CGI script that must build
> 
>> application. It has performance impact.
>
> I improved that, runnig multiple gci apps and interacting between
> cgi's, the performan problem gone! of course u must programing better
> logic beetween projects/apps

Please make an effort to make your english more readable. It takes some 
brain power to put the letters back in order. And then I even don't 
understand what you are talking about exactly...

Anyway, thanks for your interest on gb.web.form!

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Re: [Gambas-user] running IDE with Qt5

[PICCORO McKAY Lenz]

on that cases then the distribution mut handle with the problem..

must be a system wide qt main executable like in debian that points to
the main qt env by exmple in debian qmake points to qmake-qt4 until
squeeze and in wheeze points to qmake-qt5

swo then using a system like that the mantainer must setup a code in
the ide and detects the qt main enviroment and lauch the proper
component

its suppost that linux users are not "M$" users and must know what are
doing, like configure & make & make install that's the true!

so its suppost that in the "automatic case" of distribution the
"wrapper" must be handle by the mantainer, on the other cases, like u
done, users will ask to upstream developers and ask how to lauch with
"X" environment!


2015-12-06 4:00 GMT-04:30, Benoît Minisini :
> Le 06/12/2015 04:24, Ian Haywood a écrit :
>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 11:03 AM, PICCORO McKAY Lenz
>>  wrote:
>>> set a env variable to QT5 and that's all, of course, all the
>>> components in qt5 framework must be set, packages made for some
>>> disributions may have some misc but works in general lines
>> when packaging for a distro the interpreter should work "out of the
>> box", users should be
>> able to type "gambas3" or launch form the menus, not "GB_GUI=QT5 gambas3"
>>
>> One solution is to have a wrapper shell script that sets the variable
>> Easier IMHO is to patch main/lib/gui.qt/main.c to prefer qt5 over qt4
>> which is probably what Debian will end up doing.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>
> gambas3 is not the interpreter, it's the IDE.
>
> Maybe the solution is making the gb.gui.qt component clever.
>
> I mean, if a project needs both gb.gui.qt and gb.gui.qt.webkit, it must
> check both to choose between QT4 ot QT5, not just gb.gui.qt.
>
> Regards,
>
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>
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Re: [Gambas-user] running IDE with Qt5

[Benoît Minisini]

Le 06/12/2015 04:24, Ian Haywood a écrit :
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 11:03 AM, PICCORO McKAY Lenz
>  wrote:
>> set a env variable to QT5 and that's all, of course, all the
>> components in qt5 framework must be set, packages made for some
>> disributions may have some misc but works in general lines
> when packaging for a distro the interpreter should work "out of the
> box", users should be
> able to type "gambas3" or launch form the menus, not "GB_GUI=QT5 gambas3"
>
> One solution is to have a wrapper shell script that sets the variable
> Easier IMHO is to patch main/lib/gui.qt/main.c to prefer qt5 over qt4
> which is probably what Debian will end up doing.
>
> Ian
>

gambas3 is not the interpreter, it's the IDE.

Maybe the solution is making the gb.gui.qt component clever.

I mean, if a project needs both gb.gui.qt and gb.gui.qt.webkit, it must 
check both to choose between QT4 ot QT5, not just gb.gui.qt.

Regards,

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Re: [Gambas-user] New gb.web.form component

[PICCORO McKAY Lenz]

Hi Benoit and others.. there's many things here that must be take carefully

1) take in consideration stabilitiy in words of changes of the web
sites/apps, everyday are changing and the browsers force that! the
app, javascript, ajax, and those stupids that forces developers to
change and change anc change on all the new day always change also..

This can broke the forwad compatibility o gambas, remenber any older
gambas app in series will compile in nwe version, example my APP-3.4.0
can be build in gambas 3.8.3 and runs without change, THAT ITS NOT IN
THE WEB DEVELOPEMNT wordl!

A thing that gambas have its the consistency in development word,
aditions and aditions but nothing break the things made in the past!
In the web development word that's its not!

2) due the firts fact, the development of that will take more thant
xpected, so a idea can be separate the project!, BUT this will means
more workload for manpowers and for Benoit!


AND NOW SOME NOTES:
> create an application entirely in javascript that will be run inside the
> browser (like Google docs for example).
i dont like, due today the web apps take tooo much cpu process, due
that! also on every day changes and the browsers change and the users
never have peace, always pending "update" the browser!
SO THIS WIL IMPACT IN THE GUI? and in gambas gui of web  component?
so obviously this will impact in the development and benoit time dedication!

CGI IMPORTANT NOTE
> Do understand that the web application is a CGI script that must build

> application. It has performance impact.

I improved that, runnig multiple gci apps and interacting between
cgi's, the performan problem gone! of course u must programing better
logic beetween projects/apps

2015-11-29 17:12 GMT-04:30, Moviga Technologies :
>
>
> It was just starting to resemble the Gambas IDE, so I got curious of how
> ambitious you had become ;) Glad to hear that your feet is still on the
> ground, haha :)
>
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