Re: [Gambas-user] About Gambas Farm
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Re: [Gambas-user] About Gambas Farm
Hi, Benoît et all El 26/6/16 a las 12:40, Benoît Minisini escribió: > Le 25/06/2016 20:59, Jesus Guardon a écrit : [...] >> the Farm interface >> should be enhanced in terms of usability, such as implementing a score >> system and a comments system. > > I agree for the comment system. But I disagree for the notation system > which I found actually useless and removed. > Good to know you like a comment system. >> [...]supervision of the published material, looking for a >> minimum of quality. [...] > > As this cannot be done automatically, maybe a special "quality" tag > could be added? Or a quality score? Or quality flags? It will tell > people that the program follows the quality rules. > Yes, please. Perhaps a combination of some of them, explained further down. >> [...]only a selected >> set of them should be published after a proper quality filter. If bad >> code is published massively, it will affect the gambas reputation in the >> near future. > > I'm against filtering, except malwares. I think quality tag (or notes) + > number of downloads should be enough for people to detect bad code. I'm with you, except that if nothing is done in a timely manner, the Farm will become a nightmare. We need to prevent abusing, i.e. converting the public Farm in a private repository for someone and maintain the quality level to a minimum, as said before. I think the following aspects should be evaluated and shown somewhat next to the program name: * Naming conventions has been used * Object names and comments are in English * Good style of writing and organization of project * Usefulness of code or application * Usability and graphic design ...to name a few, but still waiting for the feedback from list members. Perhaps a combination of tags that adds in for a number representing a scale or level of quality... > > The farm server and farm clients need enhancements for sure. It's a > matter of time, mainly for the farm client. If somebody can help for > enhancing it, he is welcome : the source code is in the IDE! That's the main reason we use free software, of course, we will try to help the best we can. Regards, Jesus (on behalf of gambas-es.org) -- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] CDocumentation.ImplementAndNeed.1138
On 06/26/2016 07:24 AM, Jesus Guardon wrote: > Hi, Lewis > > As this is a threaded list, please, don't hijack the previous thread by > hitting 'Reply' while still reading a thread. That's the case with my > thread 'About Gambas Farm' because your post appear as a reply to it, > but having changed the title. > > If you want to create a new thread, please, use the 'New post' or > whatever says your mail client. If using Thunderbird, it's: right-click on mailing list address in header and select "Compose Message To". -- Lee __ "Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity." -- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] CDocumentation.ImplementAndNeed.1138
Hi, Lewis As this is a threaded list, please, don't hijack the previous thread by hitting 'Reply' while still reading a thread. That's the case with my thread 'About Gambas Farm' because your post appear as a reply to it, but having changed the title. If you want to create a new thread, please, use the 'New post' or whatever says your mail client. Hope your understanding, and for sure, no aggro intended. Best regards, Jesús El 26/6/16 a las 7:01, Lewis Balentine escribió: > I am testing Linux Mint 18 Beta. > It comes with Gambas version of 3.8.4 > I tried to run my KWPVR program project (which I admit is somewhat dated). > I got a strange error in the IDE: "CDocumentation.ImplementAndNeed.1138" > At this point I am only trying to determine if this is a Mint 18 or > Gambas error. -- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] About Gambas Farm
Le 25/06/2016 20:59, Jesus Guardon a écrit : > Hi all > > Recently at the Spanish Forum gambas-es.org, we have had a vibrant > debate about the gambas Farm and its features. On behalf of our > Community, I'd like to forward some of the questions that deserve some > discussion, in our opinion. > > Questions like "What's the actual purpose of the farm?", "Should we > expect future changes on the farm?", "Are we making a proper use of the > farm?", etc. are arising out of different points of view. > > In addition to these questions, some of us think that the Farm interface > should be enhanced in terms of usability, such as implementing a score > system and a comments system. I know it already has a > download/installation counter, but it may or may not be relevant enough > for the author. Also, a short comment from the users or other > developers, may help to the main dev to debug his application. I agree for the comment system. But I disagree for the notation system which I found actually useless and removed. > > One of the most strongly discussed aspects is the convenience of a > management or supervision of the published material, looking for a > minimum of quality. It should serve as an example of some feature, it > should be written using the recommended rules, variable names in > english, have relevant english comments and good style, not to mention > correct indentation. As this cannot be done automatically, maybe a special "quality" tag could be added? Or a quality score? Or quality flags? It will tell people that the program follows the quality rules. > > While some of us think that the Farm should be open to whatever type of > script, snippet or whole applications, others think that only a selected > set of them should be published after a proper quality filter. If bad > code is published massively, it will affect the gambas reputation in the > near future. I'm against filtering, except malwares. I think quality tag (or notes) + number of downloads should be enough for people to detect bad code. > We think about Gambas Farm as a showcase of good > programming practices and as a teaching tool, therefore it should be > enforced a minimum quality level. > > What do you guys think about all these questions? We would like to open > a friendly debate about it. > The farm server and farm clients need enhancements for sure. It's a matter of time, mainly for the farm client. If somebody can help for enhancing it, he is welcome : the source code is in the IDE! Regards, -- Benoît Minisini -- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] CDocumentation.ImplementAndNeed.1138 (solved)
Got round the problem by going into preferences and turning offline help on. On 06/26/2016 12:57 AM, Lewis Balentine wrote: > http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3038#comment-130897 > Several errors with Gambas3 version 3.8.4 as installed by Linux Mint 18 > Beta Synaptics Package Manager. > Note that I am running Gambas3 version 3.8.4 on Linux Mint 17 without > these errors. > > It does load and run but specific projects will not, which means this is > going to be a bear to trace down the problems. I just happen to have a > program that I use to record OTA (Over The Air) TV programs (I am too > cheap to pay for cable). When I try to load this project I get lots of > errors. The first of these are the missing modules: gb.qt4 and gb.qt4.ext > > Well gambas3 has some new modules gb.qt5 and gb.qt5.ext > Problem is I can not get to the point of changing the required modules > because I get another error in the IDE: > “CDocumentation.ImplementAndNeed.1138” > > This seems to be tied to a Gababas3 problem with the Offline Help system > that was reported back in April: > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.gambas.user/36870 > > On 06/26/2016 12:01 AM, Lewis Balentine wrote: >> I am testing Linux Mint 18 Beta. >> It comes with Gambas version of 3.8.4 >> I tried to run my KWPVR program project (which I admit is somewhat >> dated). >> I got a strange error in the IDE: "CDocumentation.ImplementAndNeed.1138" >> At this point I am only trying to determine if this is a Mint 18 or >> Gambas error. > > -- > Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San > Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries > present their vision of the future. This family event has something for > everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. > http://sdm.link/attshape > ___ > Gambas-user mailing list > Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
