Re: [Gambas-user] keep forms into a form
Rob wrote: On Tuesday 24 November 2009 05:23 am, nospam.nospam.nos...@gmail.com wrote: Look, I cut my teeth on DOS before Windows was even dreamt of. The win3 MDI interface was the best anyone could come up with two full decades ago. And the vomiting little windows all over the desktop approach was the best anyone could come up with two and a half decades ago on the Mac. Yes, but the mac was different. The fatal finder crash icon with the squinty eyes and sad face had a certain je ne sais quois about it. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] keep forms into a form
Perhaps you can create your forms an store then in a array of variant[] in the Tag property of the main form. I can't see why it doesn't work... by I've do not try it. Regards 2009/11/24 nospam.nospam.nos...@gmail.com Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: Hi, Is there a manner to keep my forms into my main form? other than using a workspace that apparently force children to appear as tabs. And to have them as icons (or anything else) into this main form when minimized? Rob wrote one for Gambas 1x some years ago as an add-on. I have no idea if it's been maintained so you'll have to wait for him to comment on that bit. Gambas, and rightly so IMO, chose to stay away from the traditional MDI interface, probably because they feel the same way about MDI as I do. My opinion is [CENSORED]. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] keep forms into a form
2009/11/24 nospam.nospam.nos...@gmail.com: Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: Hi, Is there a manner to keep my forms into my main form? other than using a workspace that apparently force children to appear as tabs. And to have them as icons (or anything else) into this main form when minimized? Rob wrote one for Gambas 1x some years ago as an add-on. I have no idea if it's been maintained so you'll have to wait for him to comment on that bit. Gambas, and rightly so IMO, chose to stay away from the traditional MDI interface, probably because they feel the same way about MDI as I do. My opinion is [CENSORED]. Right ! in the gb1 version, the workspace component was like the windows one ... with child windows.. in a working area... But it was too hardly linked to qt ... and not really used in Linux common interfaces... So Benoit and many of us, after a long long exchange of mail, have take the decision to use a tabbed MDI interface... Like you can see in the gambas ide, gedit, kate, quanta, web broswers, etc So, i think you can try to construct your interface around this idea -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] keep forms into a form
Jorge Carrión wrote: Perhaps you can create your forms an store then in a array of variant[] in the Tag property of the main form. Perhaps he can, but is that going to give him what he wants? I can't see why it doesn't work... by I've do not try it. [CENSORED] -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] keep forms into a form
Fabien Bodard wrote: 2009/11/24 nospam.nospam.nos...@gmail.com: Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: Hi, Is there a manner to keep my forms into my main form? other than using a workspace that apparently force children to appear as tabs. And to have them as icons (or anything else) into this main form when minimized? Rob wrote one for Gambas 1x some years ago as an add-on. I have no idea if it's been maintained so you'll have to wait for him to comment on that bit. Gambas, and rightly so IMO, chose to stay away from the traditional MDI interface, probably because they feel the same way about MDI as I do. My opinion is [CENSORED]. Right ! :) in the gb1 version, the workspace component was like the windows one ... with child windows.. in a working area... But it was too hardly linked to qt ... and not really used in Linux common interfaces... So Benoit and many of us, after a long long exchange of mail, have take the decision to use a tabbed MDI interface... Like you can see in the gambas ide, gedit, kate, quanta, web broswers, etc Look, I cut my teeth on DOS before Windows was even dreamt of. The win3 MDI interface was the best anyone could come up with two full decades ago. Even Microsoft dropped it in SP2 (IIRC) of XP. If you knew the right call in SP1, your whole XP looked like win3, but its use was so rare that even MS had to kill it, several years ago. PS: I am a reformed windows developer of many decades experience. I had a hold of win3 when it was at 1.1. Back then, it was an advancement. Not now, it's just a few strides back. So, i think you can try to construct your interface around this idea Oh, good grief! I would never do such a thing! :) About this: and not really used in Linux common interfaces IMO, there far too many attempts to make linux UIs look like Windows, KDE being one of them. After 30+ years in IT, and 25 years or so experience with Windows before it became well-known, Gnome is a Godsend. And it was a smart, pre-emptive move. Oh. I used to work for Ashton-Tate, now Borland. That's how I got my hands on Windows before anyone else. LONG LIVE LINUX! LONG LIVE GAMBAS! Even if Rob Kudla does think I'm an angry so and so. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] keep forms into a form
nospam.nospam.nos...@gmail.com ha scritto: Fabien Bodard wrote: 2009/11/24 nospam.nospam.nos...@gmail.com: Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: Hi, Is there a manner to keep my forms into my main form? other than using a workspace that apparently force children to appear as tabs. And to have them as icons (or anything else) into this main form when minimized? So, i think you can try to construct your interface around this idea Oh, good grief! I would never do such a thing! I think he would mean construct your interface around this new idea, i.e. tabs, not old MDI. It seems to me that this MDI interface is too much criticized. The classic workspace has its limits too; perhaps something in the middle should be the best. Think at your desktop: isn't it an MDI interface? Win32, gnome, kde, all are MDI interfaces. How would you feel with a desktop made up as a gambas workspace? If an app has something in common with a desktop (ie, many windows, of many types, and drag and drop between them), then an MDI interface is not so bad. Just trying to see the other face of the coin - if all the people say MDI is bad, why one should join without thinking a little more? Regards, Doriano -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] keep forms into a form
Doriano Blengino wrote: nospam.nospam.nos...@gmail.com ha scritto: Fabien Bodard wrote: 2009/11/24 nospam.nospam.nos...@gmail.com: Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: Hi, Is there a manner to keep my forms into my main form? other than using a workspace that apparently force children to appear as tabs. And to have them as icons (or anything else) into this main form when minimized? So, i think you can try to construct your interface around this idea Oh, good grief! I would never do such a thing! I think he would mean construct your interface around this new idea, i.e. tabs, not old MDI. Yes, but the problem is I was being funny, but since I have to explain it, it's no longer funny. It seems to me that this MDI interface is too much criticized. I would say that Microsoft dropping it in XP SP2 would be more than sufficient for everyone else to bury it. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] keep forms into a form
On Tuesday 24 November 2009 05:23 am, nospam.nospam.nos...@gmail.com wrote: Look, I cut my teeth on DOS before Windows was even dreamt of. The win3 MDI interface was the best anyone could come up with two full decades ago. And the vomiting little windows all over the desktop approach was the best anyone could come up with two and a half decades ago on the Mac. Rob -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
[Gambas-user] keep forms into a form
Hi, Is there a manner to keep my forms into my main form? other than using a workspace that apparently force children to appear as tabs. And to have them as icons (or anything else) into this main form when minimized? JY -- Every time you manage to close the door on Reality, it comes in through the window. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] keep forms into a form
Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: Hi, Is there a manner to keep my forms into my main form? other than using a workspace that apparently force children to appear as tabs. And to have them as icons (or anything else) into this main form when minimized? Rob wrote one for Gambas 1x some years ago as an add-on. I have no idea if it's been maintained so you'll have to wait for him to comment on that bit. Gambas, and rightly so IMO, chose to stay away from the traditional MDI interface, probably because they feel the same way about MDI as I do. My opinion is [CENSORED]. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
