date:20080927


Hi

Yeah, http://www.audiogames.net.

Also, I recommend googling it first. That usually helps- I just did to 
varify and it was one of the first results.





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Re: [Audyssey] Mk4 for pc

LP = low punch. I recommend taking a ride over to www.gamefaqs.com and going 
to all systems. THen I recommend hitting enter on pc, going to m, and mortal 
kombat 4. Go to the faq page on that.


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  Hello all!
  I got the Mortal Combat 4, and I have a few questions for you who know, 
and I am sure there are a lot of those:
  I have the text file with moves of the characters and asigned keys, but 
I don't understand the key combinations quite well. For instance, there is 
written lp - low punch, so does it mean pressing l and p togeather or 
pressing them separately, or what means when it is written b-b?
  And, if someone can, please, tell me how to set the game. I worked out 
that the letters s, a, q and w are for selecting the options, but I am 
still not sure about that.
  I hope that you will answer my questions, whishing you all happy gaming, 
whatever you played! :)

  Thank you in advance, and best regards!
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Re: [Audyssey] Klango Software Catalog - would you like to submit yoursoftware?

Hmm, I could see a lot of posibilities for this player. Can't wait for its 
release.





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Hi,

I'm the one of the people who are responsible for the Klango Player, a
new accessible multimedia and community center. We would like to
invite all developers to submit their software to a new Software Catalog
we will be launching in a few days.

Some time ago we tried to create a few audio games and other small
programs for the listening people, but after a year we already knew
that reachability of the VI audience is the main problem of such activity.
Because we didn't want to give up, we stopped making games and started
designing a new software platform which could be used as an efficient
medium for delivering (acessible) software and other interactive
multimedia content to broader, worldwide VI audience. It took us almost
two years to finish the first stage of the adventure.

We are happy to announce that the final version of the Klango Player 2.0
will be released on 6th October.

With a single download, and thanks to Player's simple user interface,
even non-experienced blind users (not only geeks like you;) get easy
access to the Player's functions and some additional Klango Programs
(through a built-in install/update mechanism). Now, we are finishing the
puzzle by adding the Software Catalog dedicated to all developers
interested in publishing their software to the community.

If it comes to the community, it grows everyday with new users from all
over the world ...without any advertisement from our side. Even now,
when the Player is online just for two months (as a beta), we have over
1000 users and each day hundreds of people log into Klango and have a
good time with it (take a look at the forums). New language versions are
being developped by users themselves ...and so on.

So... getting back to the point of this email: if you're a developer and
the Klango Community matches somehow your target audience, simply submit
your software to the Catalog. :) It's a simple operation and you can be
sure you'll gain a lot of new users for your applications. If you submit
your app, it will be listed in the Player's menu and users will be able
to download, install and run it directly from the Player with just a few
keypresses.

Of course, submitting aplications to the Software Catalogue is
completely free.

More detailed information about the Software Catalog and details of the
submition process can be found in our Partner Panel,
http://partner.klango.net.
You have to own a Klango Account to enter the Panel, but we hope it's
not a big problem for you :) Simply download the Player and create one.
We suggest you to get the For Testers version, because it's almost
up-to-date if it comes to various features. It's URL is
http://setuptest.klango.net. You can also read more about the player at
http://en.klango.net/readme/.

Please note that the possibility of downloading your applications is not
available in the current versions of the Player. If we recieve your
submission(s) to the catalog (through the panel), we'll release a
final-beta version next week to test how the machinery works in real
conditions before we enter full 2.0.

In a case of any questions, don't hesitate to contact us. Please use our
support form at http://support.klango.net, it's the best way of
contacting us.

Best regards,
 Maciej Muszytowski
 Klango Player/klango.net Team



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Re: [Audyssey] Mainstream games

Well, I don't really remember the endings to anything before tekken 4. Its 
been so long since I had a play station- it had a mod chip but I never used 
it. I always have wondered why in the world people mod there system when you 
can buy like 10 games for as much as you paid for it if you know where to 
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Those too! I love Tekken! Anyone remember Brian fury's ending from tekken 
3?

There was an awesome one.
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Hi,

I recommend the tekken games. That's what I learned on, and stil love to
this day.




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Hi Lindsay,
I guess it really depends on what you view as accessible, and how much
work you are willing to put into practicing the game to make it playable
by you.
For example the fighting games like Mortal Kombat are all fairly
accessible once you memorize the menus, and have another blind or
sighted gamer walk you through it a couple of times.
The WWE wrestling games like WWE Smackdown vs Raw are accessible once
you learn the different moves, sounds, and memorize a few things.
Brandon Coal has a podcast around somewhere on WWE Smackdown VS Raw, and
it is a great introduction into the wrestling games for the PS2 and PSP.
The Tomb Raider series of games I really like aren't accessible as such,
but can be played with some sighted asistance. I have however discovered
some tips and tricks that helps me get around in the games. For example,
as long as I keep Lara Croft in walk mode I won't fall off of ledges,
buildings, etc. I can walk her right up to an edge, she will stop, and
then I can use the reverse safety drop command to safely turn her around
and have her drop to the ground below. It took me lots and lots of
practice. As far as jumping over stuff I try to time the jump by
counting the time I have Lara in the air. Still some guess work
involved, but I can usually do it if I am consistent about counting the
time. I wouldn't recommend something as complex as TR for your first PS2
game.
Like I said if you really want something somewhat easy to learn and play
try a fighting game like Mortal Kombat or similar as a start.  Those you
can get the hang of fairly quickly. As for other games I suggest renting
them and trying them out before you actually buy it to see if it is
somewhat playable or not.


Lindsay Cowell wrote:

What mainstream games are accessible for blind people?

lindsay Cowell



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[Audyssey] an accessible board game

2008-09-27 Thread Michael Feir

Hello everyone. I believe I've stumbled across something very interesting here. 
It's an unofficial free version of a popular fantasy adventure board game 
called Talisman. There's no single player mode so you'd need to have two or 
more people present at the same computer to derrive the full benefit from this. 
I've just begun to try this out playing two characters myself and the results 
have been good so far. I found the link at the bottom of a Wikipedia article on 
the original board game. It's a zip file and you have to download directly from 
the link as the site itself says it's under construction. Use the save target 
as command if you can in order to save the zip file rather than open it. The 
game doesn't install anything. You just extract the files into their own folder 
and run talisman.exe. There's also a file talisman rulebook.exe which provides 
a basic manual for the game. I find this easier to use once you go into the 
view menu and get rid of the tree view. The game is quite simple to play and 
you use the cursor keys or numbers to select your options. When you are 
selecting a space to move to on the board, the cursor keys navigate you around. 
Hit the space bar or enter key and you will be told what location you've 
selected and asked whether you're certain you want to go there. It's a bit 
clumsy and slower but it works. The game doesn't rely on you hiding anything 
from your opponents so there are no worries on that score.

I've had best results when I've had my Jaws set to echo all. You could also use 
the review cursor. When you run talisman.exe, you have to hit the space bar or 
enter key at least once before the first readable screen appears. I presume 
there are graphics first.

While a single player option would have been nifty, I look forward to trying 
this game out with family and friends. Even playing one or more characters on 
one's own and seeing whether any of them can make it to the centre and claim 
the crown of command can be entertaining. I'd be interested to hear about how 
others do with this game particularly if you can get one or more other people 
to play with you. The link to this game is:

www.asbouniverse.com/talisman.zip

Michael Feir
Author of Personal Power:
How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People
2006-2008
www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power

A Life of Word and Sound
2003-2007
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Re: [Audyssey] Mainstream games was sl accessibility contact details

2008-09-27 Thread Mike Reiser

I posted a request to test the game in the intumbed topic on the 
blind-games site, was that the right place?  THanks,


Mike

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Re: [Audyssey] Mudsplat


Hi lisa.

just in case the linke on audiogames.net isn't working, you can find 
mudsplat on 
http://inova.snv.jussieu.fr/timgames/www.timgames.org/mudsplat/index.php?PHPSESSID=73ea3a1b4178a9a317c6f2389282b020


Have fun with it,  though personally I found it much too easy, a shame 
sinse the sounds and music are very nice.


I know it's supposed to be a game for kids, but stil, i think the difficulty 
could've been cranked up a bit, or that the game could've have a difficulty 
setting.


Beware the grue!

dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Mudsplat

2008-09-27 Thread Jennifer Karns

What type of game is this?
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Hi lisa.

just in case the linke on audiogames.net isn't working, you can find 
mudsplat on 
http://inova.snv.jussieu.fr/timgames/www.timgames.org/mudsplat/index.php?PHPSESSID=73ea3a1b4178a9a317c6f2389282b020

Have fun with it,  though personally I found it much too easy, a shame 
sinse the sounds and music are very nice.

I know it's supposed to be a game for kids, but stil, i think the 
difficulty could've been cranked up a bit, or that the game could've have 
a difficulty setting.

Beware the grue!

dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Mainstream games was sl accessibility contact details


Hi Kellie,
Thanks. Hopefully I can begin releasing 3D games sometime early next 
year. So far porting my Genesis 3D FPS engine to Java is going quite 
well all things considered. I have a lot of the basic player commands 
programmed into the engine such as walking, running, sidestepping, 
jumping, climbing, etc. I think the next step will be porting the 3D 
level editor over to Java so I can build some test levels to test out 
the engine and test actually moving around in a full 3D environment. I 
am pretty psyched about the whole thing because when Genesis 3D is ready 
to create 3D games it will be the first taiste of accessible mainstream 
style games most on this list have ever experienced. A true 3D 
environment adds a completely new dinamic to playing games as enemies 
can be above, below, left, right, ahead, or behind you, and you also 
have to look up and if the enemy is above or below your line of sight 
you have to look up or down to shoot at it as well as line it up. So It 
is going to be a lot trickier to master than a point and shoot game. It 
will take some practice for most gamers I think. Especially, since a 
player's pov, (point of view,) is often ignored in accessible games, but 
it is quite common in the mainstream market in FPS games.
I suppose some concepts like point of view are ignored, because many of 
the blind accessible game developers probably don't fully understand it 
not having had sight before. While it is pretty much a totally sighted 
concept it still can be done in audio quite well by using 3D audio as 
well as targeting beeps to indicate if the triangulation is correct and 
the enemy is precisely lined up for a shot. I plan to add some look 
ahead command which will tell you exactly what is in front of you such 
as doors, walls, enemys, special items, etc so that you can get an idea 
of what is directly in your character's line of sight.
So all in all I guess we will get to find out together what it is like 
to play something similar to mainstream games only made in a totally 
audio format. I expect there will be lots of testing involved before it 
is all ready to go. Smile.



Kellie and my lovable Lady J. wrote:
 Tom,
 I can not wait til your games are out. I feel the same way about the 
accessible game market. I love a lot of the games that are currently 
out. But, I so wish for a game of a different sort. I really would love 
to see a rpg but being that they can be so intensive I am not sure if I 
will ever see that come to pass. But I appreciate all the work you put 
in and can't wait to play the games you create. *smile*

 Kellie and my lovable Lady J.
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Re: [Audyssey] Mudsplat

It's a space invaders varient, with enemies who chuck mud at you, various 
sorts of bonuses and bosses.


as I said, nicely put together, lovely sfx and music, but imho much to 
easy,  stil worth a go though.


Beware the Gru!

Dark.
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What type of game is this?
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Hi lisa.

just in case the linke on audiogames.net isn't working, you can find 
mudsplat on 
http://inova.snv.jussieu.fr/timgames/www.timgames.org/mudsplat/index.php?PHPSESSID=73ea3a1b4178a9a317c6f2389282b020


Have fun with it,  though personally I found it much too easy, a 
shame sinse the sounds and music are very nice.


I know it's supposed to be a game for kids, but stil, i think the 
difficulty could've been cranked up a bit, or that the game could've have 
a difficulty setting.


Beware the grue!

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Subject: [Audyssey] Mudsplat



Hi all,  does anyone know where I can get mudsplat from? thanks.
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Re: [Audyssey] Mk4 for pc

2008-09-27 Thread ANN


Where can this game be obtained?

Thanks.

~Ann


Milos Przic wrote:

   Hello all!
   I got the Mortal Combat 4, and I have a few questions for you who know, and 
I am sure there are a lot of those:
   I have the text file with moves of the characters and asigned keys, but I don't understand the 
key combinations quite well. For instance, there is written lp - low punch, so does it 
mean pressing l and p togeather or pressing them separately, or what means when it is written 
b-b?
   And, if someone can, please, tell me how to set the game. I worked out that 
the letters s, a, q and w are for selecting the options, but I am still not 
sure about that.
   I hope that you will answer my questions, whishing you all happy gaming, 
whatever you played! :)
   Thank you in advance, and best regards!
 Milos Przic
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Re: [Audyssey] owner is back!

2008-09-27 Thread kev lyon


hi tom, yeah it's a lonely job at times! :)
just got to scour all the main developers sites now to find out what i've 
been missing.

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Hi Kevin,
Woo who. Glad to have you back mate. Its been lonely being the lone 
moderator on the list for the passed two or three months. Nice to see a 
friendly helper again. Grin.


kev lyon wrote:
hi all, after a much longer than anticipated absence from the list, i'm 
back!
and i will also be helping out again on the moderation front! so behave 
yourselves! lol


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Re: [Audyssey] Mainstream games


Hi,
Sounds pretty neat. Unfortunately, I don't have the cash for a PS3, and 
probably won't be able to try MK

VS DC until I get on better financial footing.

Yohandy wrote:
Here's some interesting news on the mk DC game. From what I've heard 
and some speculation as well, the MK story mode will be totally 
accessible. you'll basically pick a character to start it off with, 
then you just fight different characters and the stoy mode will 
progress with cutscenes etc. pretty neat if you ask me.



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Re: [Audyssey] Mainstream games was sl accessibility contact details


Hi Jennifer,
Jason Alan is creating an accessible RPG game called Entombed. I'm very 
interested in this project. It sounds pretty awesome.


Jennifer Karns wrote:
 what rpg game?


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Re: [Audyssey] topspeed question


Hi Michael,
Best answer anyone can give right now is it is released when it is 
released. Playing in the Dark had planned for an early September 
release, but technical issues popped up before they could do so and we 
will have to wait until those issues get resolved.

Cheers.

Michal Badin wrote:
hi! my name is michael badin from Slovakia. i would to ask you. when 
will topspeed release thanks write me on: if you want: of course: 
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Re: [Audyssey] Mainstream games


Hi,
And also
http://www.usagames.us
is an authorised reseller for the 7-128 Game Book in case anyone is 
interested.

Smile.


John Bannick wrote:

Lindsay,

We ship a dozen mainstream detective, puzzle, and word games that are
accessible for blind people. Check out www.7128.com.

John Bannick
7-128 Software


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Re: [Audyssey] Mk4 for pc

2008-09-27 Thread Matheus

download it on emule.
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De: ANN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Data: Sabado, 27 de Setembro de 2008 10:24
Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Mk4 for pc

Where can this game be obtained?

Thanks.

~Ann


Milos Przic wrote:
Hello all!
I got the Mortal Combat 4, and I have a few questions for you who know, 
 and I am sure there are a lot of those:
I have the text file with moves of the characters and asigned keys, but I 
 don't understand the key combinations quite well. For instance, there is 
 written lp 
- low punch, so does it mean pressing l and p togeather or pressing them 
separately, or what means when it is written b-b?
And, if someone can, please, tell me how to set the game. I worked out 
 that the letters s, a, q and w are for selecting the options, but I am still 
 not sure 
about that.
I hope that you will answer my questions, whishing you all happy gaming, 
 whatever you played! :)
Thank you in advance, and best regards!
  Milos Przic
 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 skipe: milosh-hs
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Re: [Audyssey] Mainstream games was sl accessibility contact details


Hi Darren,
For me it is an issue of how challenging the game is, and being able to 
try several different things. Many of the current accessible games don't 
provide a lot of serious challenges for me. I don't consider myself 
super inteligent, but I do think the A.I. systems in a lot of accessible 
games falls short of putting up a serious challenge for me.
For example, I initially wrote STFC, because I found GMA's Trek 2000 way 
too simple to play. Yeah, I know others have told me the game was super 
hard, it is a difficult game, so I baught it and beat it on all five 
difficulty levels in a month. Most of the time when I play on the 
highest difficulty I walk away from the game with 3 ships and two bases, 
and there have been a number of times I didn't lose any ships and 
stations on difficulty 5. That means it is just too easy if I can walk 
away from the game with everything in tact, and totally whiped out all 
the enemies.
Besides better A.I. in mainstream games I find there is a lot more 
strategical opertunities that just aren't available in audio games. In a 
mainstream game you might be able to take up a snipers position behind 
packing crates, pillars, from catwalks, bridges, whatever. If you are 
firing down at a bunch of enemies from high up it instantly gives you 
better strategical attacks. If you are hiding behind a crate and fire at 
an enemy over the top and duck down behind it you have a shield of sort 
to block incoming fire while you can blast the enemies out in the open. 
I like being able to pick my battles and do the logical thing like 
sniper my enemies from various vantage points when it is available.


Darren Harris wrote:

Yup this is the trouble. There's very few games out there that I'd
definitely go out and buy, because of that reason.
  



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Re: [Audyssey] Mudsplat

2008-09-27 Thread Jennifer Karns

Ah ok, thank you
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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mudsplat

It's a space invaders varient, with enemies who chuck mud at you, various 
sorts of bonuses and bosses.

as I said, nicely put together, lovely sfx and music, but imho much to 
easy,  stil worth a go though.

Beware the Gru!

Dark.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mudsplat

What type of game is this?
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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mudsplat

Hi lisa.

just in case the linke on audiogames.net isn't working, you can find 
mudsplat on 
http://inova.snv.jussieu.fr/timgames/www.timgames.org/mudsplat/index.php?PHPSESSID=73ea3a1b4178a9a317c6f2389282b020

Have fun with it,  though personally I found it much too easy, a 
shame sinse the sounds and music are very nice.

I know it's supposed to be a game for kids, but stil, i think the 
difficulty could've been cranked up a bit, or that the game could've 
have a difficulty setting.

Beware the grue!

dark.
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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:07 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Mudsplat

Hi all,  does anyone know where I can get mudsplat from? thanks.
Lisa Hayes
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Re: [Audyssey] Mainstream games was sl accessibility contact details

2008-09-27 Thread Jennifer Karns

oh cool Thank you
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Hi Jennifer,
Jason Alan is creating an accessible RPG game called Entombed. I'm very 
interested in this project. It sounds pretty awesome.

Jennifer Karns wrote:
 what rpg game?

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Re: [Audyssey] Mainstream games was sl accessibility contact details


Hi Shaun,
Sure. That is true. However, even with copyrights there are ways of 
stepping around them. Even though I can't technically write a game named 
Tomb Raider or Indiana Jones that doesn't mean I can't write a game 
along the same lines with different characters, sound effects, etc. As 
long as it is different enough from the original copyrighted work a 
person can get away with it.
Take a game like Resident Evil 1. Well, from what I seen other than a 
few main characters the majority of the game is public domain stuff. 
Zombies are public domain, a city mall, a clown with a chainsaw, a 
butcher with a big knife, a Homeland Security agent, etc really isn't 
all that unique to get full copyright status. Names, places, etc might 
have to be changed, but big deal. something like Resident Evil could be 
made with enough small changes here and there to qualify as a new work.
Most of the time copyrights are a pain, but not impossible to deal with. 
The only cases where they are real trouble is with big mainstream 
copyrighted works such as Star Wars where you can't just put a generic 
spin on it. Stuff like Jedis, light sabers, Sith, and the supporting 
characters are so important to the plot that you can't remove them and 
make it work.


shaun everiss wrote:

well its not an easy business.
copywrites, the issue that this is not a full time job, you don't get much from 
it, etc.
And you don't have a team of devs doing things.
  



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Re: [Audyssey] owner is back!

2008-09-27 Thread Charles Rivard

Why should we?  I'd rather be myself.  I will behave as usual.  Badly. 
(grin)  Welcome back.

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Subject: [Audyssey] owner is back!

hi all, after a much longer than anticipated absence from the list, i'm 
back!
and i will also be helping out again on the moderation front! so behave 
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Re: [Audyssey] an accessible board game


Hi michael.

I'm afraid i can't find the link to this downloadable version of talisman 
anywhere! i've tried the wikipedia artical on talisman, have looked at and 
tried the links there, but no luck.


the good news however is that i have tracked down a site with play by e-mail 
rules, so if the program is workable, there are some interesting playing 
possibilities.


beware the Grue!

dark.
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Subject: [Audyssey] an accessible board game


Hello everyone. I believe I've stumbled across something very interesting 
here. It's an unofficial free version of a popular fantasy adventure board 
game called Talisman. There's no single player mode so you'd need to have 
two or more people present at the same computer to derrive the full 
benefit from this. I've just begun to try this out playing two characters 
myself and the results have been good so far. I found the link at the 
bottom of a Wikipedia article on the original board game. It's a zip file 
and you have to download directly from the link as the site itself says 
it's under construction. Use the save target as command if you can in 
order to save the zip file rather than open it. The game doesn't install 
anything. You just extract the files into their own folder and run 
talisman.exe. There's also a file talisman rulebook.exe which provides a 
basic manual for the game. I find this easier to use once you go into the 
view menu and get rid of the tree view. The game is quite simple to play 
and you use the cursor keys or numbers to select your options. When you 
are selecting a space to move to on the board, the cursor keys navigate 
you around. Hit the space bar or enter key and you will be told what 
location you've selected and asked whether you're certain you want to go 
there. It's a bit clumsy and slower but it works. The game doesn't rely on 
you hiding anything from your opponents so there are no worries on that 
score.


I've had best results when I've had my Jaws set to echo all. You could 
also use the review cursor. When you run talisman.exe, you have to hit the 
space bar or enter key at least once before the first readable screen 
appears. I presume there are graphics first.


While a single player option would have been nifty, I look forward to 
trying this game out with family and friends. Even playing one or more 
characters on one's own and seeing whether any of them can make it to the 
centre and claim the crown of command can be entertaining. I'd be 
interested to hear about how others do with this game particularly if you 
can get one or more other people to play with you. The link to this game 
is:


www.asbouniverse.com/talisman.zip

Michael Feir
Author of Personal Power:
How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People
2006-2008
www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power

A Life of Word and Sound
2003-2007
http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound

Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine
1996-2004
Check out my blog at:
www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com

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Re: [Audyssey] trying to contact John Banic

Hi Dark,
Not a problem. By the way Jon Bannick's address is
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if you still need it.

dark wrote:
Hi.

i'm really sorry to clutter up the mailing list with this type of stuff, but I was wondering if john would mind please e-mailing me, sinse I lost his address. i attempted to use the mailto link on 7-128, but my mail bounced for some reason.

it would be best to use my dark at xgam.org address if that's alright.

I'm afraid my only excuse is that it is partially about a game accessibility question, related to something i'm investigating at the second.

appologies to tom and all the other mods.

all the best,

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Re: [Audyssey] an accessible board game

2008-09-27 Thread Michael Feir

I've put the link right in my initial message just above my signature. You 
should try right-clicking on it and saving target as. Hope that helps.

Michael Feir
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A Life of Word and Sound
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- Original Message - 
From: dark [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] an accessible board game



Hi michael.

I'm afraid i can't find the link to this downloadable version of talisman 
anywhere! i've tried the wikipedia artical on talisman, have looked at and 
tried the links there, but no luck.


the good news however is that i have tracked down a site with play by 
e-mail rules, so if the program is workable, there are some interesting 
playing possibilities.


beware the Grue!

dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Feir [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 2:19 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] an accessible board game


Hello everyone. I believe I've stumbled across something very interesting 
here. It's an unofficial free version of a popular fantasy adventure 
board game called Talisman. There's no single player mode so you'd need 
to have two or more people present at the same computer to derrive the 
full benefit from this. I've just begun to try this out playing two 
characters myself and the results have been good so far. I found the link 
at the bottom of a Wikipedia article on the original board game. It's a 
zip file and you have to download directly from the link as the site 
itself says it's under construction. Use the save target as command if 
you can in order to save the zip file rather than open it. The game 
doesn't install anything. You just extract the files into their own 
folder and run talisman.exe. There's also a file talisman rulebook.exe 
which provides a basic manual for the game. I find this easier to use 
once you go into the view menu and get rid of the tree view. The game 
is quite simple to play and you use the cursor keys or numbers to select 
your options. When you are selecting a space to move to on the board, the 
cursor keys navigate you around. Hit the space bar or enter key and you 
will be told what location you've selected and asked whether you're 
certain you want to go there. It's a bit clumsy and slower but it works. 
The game doesn't rely on you hiding anything from your opponents so there 
are no worries on that score.


I've had best results when I've had my Jaws set to echo all. You could 
also use the review cursor. When you run talisman.exe, you have to hit 
the space bar or enter key at least once before the first readable screen 
appears. I presume there are graphics first.


While a single player option would have been nifty, I look forward to 
trying this game out with family and friends. Even playing one or more 
characters on one's own and seeing whether any of them can make it to the 
centre and claim the crown of command can be entertaining. I'd be 
interested to hear about how others do with this game particularly if you 
can get one or more other people to play with you. The link to this game 
is:


www.asbouniverse.com/talisman.zip

Michael Feir
Author of Personal Power:
How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People
2006-2008
www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power

A Life of Word and Sound
2003-2007
http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound

Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine
1996-2004
Check out my blog at:
www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com

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[Audyssey] Chicken Killer

2008-09-27 Thread David Standen

Hi list,
  Lisa's mention of Mudsplat made me think about Chicken Killer. Does anyone 
know where I can find this game? The link on audiogames.net does not work. I've 
always wanted to try this game out.
  Thanks in advance for any assistance.
David
 
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