Re: [Audyssey] robert bets game query

2012-09-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

Agreed. If he charges for his games,  which he does, he should at
least support them via e-mail, phone, and so on but it seems he has
gone the way of Bavisoft. Just closed down, doesn't respond to mail,
and ignores any and all requests to update etc. Definitely a bad way
to run a business.

On 9/22/12, MamaPeach  wrote:
> They are definitly not supported. I have email him or "his company" several
>
> times and never get a response which in my opinion is a bad way to handle
> paying customers.
>

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Re: [Audyssey] robert bets game query

2012-09-22 Thread MamaPeach
He sold an 8 pack that included the following games. He included one extra 
game in the 8 pack which is also listed below. I know there is one more 
called something Squares or Squares something, I can't remember. The games 
are:

Battleship
Blackjack
Free Cell
Memory
Simon
Suit Yourself
Word Play
Word Scramble
Yahtzee

-Original Message- 
From: michael barnes

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:39 PM
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Hey, can I please get a list of the ten games he made?

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Re: [Audyssey] robert bets game query

2012-09-22 Thread michael barnes

Hey, can I please get a list of the ten games he made?

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Re: [Audyssey] robert bets game query

2012-09-22 Thread MamaPeach
I loved Suit Yourself, that is the game of his that I miss playing the most. 
I also loved his version of Yahtzee.


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Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:12 PM
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His new site is down too? I know the old domain, gamesfortheblind.com,
has been gone for a long time. Well, those games may have been
overpriced for what they were, but they were some of the first
accessible Windows games, so they have a special place in my heart if
nothing else but for nostalgia's sake. And, Suit Yourself was a really
unique concept which was the only way I didn't get frustrated with
solitaire, lol.

On 9/22/12, Ryan Conroy  wrote:

Hi,

His new site seems to be down. He's had the same 10 games out for awhile,
but it doesn't look like he'll be making anymore, unless he comes back.

Take care,
Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] robert bets game query

2012-09-22 Thread MamaPeach
They are definitly not supported. I have email him or "his company" several 
times and never get a response which in my opinion is a bad way to handle 
paying customers.


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From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:42 PM
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Hi,

If memory serves me the site is
http://www.gamesforblind.com
or something like that. In my personal opinion they aren't worth the
time or the price as I can download many of the same games for free
from Jim Kitchen and Spoonbill Games. Plus none of Robert's games seem
to be maintained or supported to boot.

Cheers!


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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

Good to know. Windows 7 has the same system specs as Vista so no
problem there. The only question left to solve is weather you need a
32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows 7 for that P/C.

Cheers!

On 9/22/12, Desiree Oudinot  wrote:
> Hi,
> This computer had Vista on it before, so I'm thinking it's going to be
> fine for running Windows 7. But I'll have her check the processor
> before she goes ahead with the installation.
> As for my issues with user account control, I don't know. I haven't
> tried it under Windows 7, which is what I have on my laptop, but I do
> know that I was using jaws 13 with Vista, and it didn't speak at all
> until I got out of the Uac dialog. Yes, I'm using a legal copy of
> Jaws. But if it works under Windows 7, I shouldn't have any problem
> disabling it, which I'm glad to hear.
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Re: [Audyssey] robert bets game query

2012-09-22 Thread Ryan Conroy
Hi,

His new site seems to be down. He's had the same 10 games out for awhile, but 
it doesn't look like he'll be making anymore, unless he comes back.

Take care,
Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread john
You can't run any of the accessable games pack under windows 
seven. I'm not sure why, but they don't function. Those were the 
one I was forgetting in my earlier message.


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bit systems?


I will re-atemt a reinstall and see what the message is. Might 
not get to it
today as I am dealing with a frustrating IOS 6 issue with my 
iphone right

now.

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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread Desiree Oudinot
Hi,
This computer had Vista on it before, so I'm thinking it's going to be
fine for running Windows 7. But I'll have her check the processor
before she goes ahead with the installation.
As for my issues with user account control, I don't know. I haven't
tried it under Windows 7, which is what I have on my laptop, but I do
know that I was using jaws 13 with Vista, and it didn't speak at all
until I got out of the Uac dialog. Yes, I'm using a legal copy of
Jaws. But if it works under Windows 7, I shouldn't have any problem
disabling it, which I'm glad to hear.

On 9/22/12, Thomas Ward  wrote:
> Hi Desiree,
>
> Yes, your sister should be able to figure out your processor type,
> speed, cache etc simply by looking at the bios. She's going to have to
> check your system requirements anyway because you can't just slap
> Windows 7 on just any old machine. Windows 7 needs a faster processor,
> more memory, and a better video card than XP just to start off.
>
> As for User Account Control  I've used Jaws 13 just fine with UAC so
> I'm not really sure where you are coming from when you talk about not
> having speech etc. I've not had that problem with Jaws 11, 12, or 13
> on any Windows 7 computer I've used. Jaws is fully UAC compatible so
> it doesn't have to be turned off for Jaws sake. Are you running an out
> of date version of Jaws?
>
> As far as differences between 32-bit and 64-bit it isn't an issue of
> better graphics. There are a lot of differences under the hood such as
> how much ram it supports, what size hard drives it supports, how big
> the files are it supports, and things like that. Its not necessarily
> something you as an end user will notice, but there are technical
> differences to be aware of.
>
> For example, the 32-bit version of Windows 7 will only recognize up to
> 4 GB of ram. That is pretty decent for the average user, but let's say
> you want to handle a number of virtual machines or something and put
> in 8 GB or 12 GB of ram. You'll need a 64-bit version of Windows 7
> which supports up to 128 GB of ram for that. As I said something like
> that isn't likely to effect the average user, but could be important
> to some people.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
> On 9/22/12, Desiree Oudinot  wrote:
>> Hi Thomas,
>> You know what, to be honest, I dont know about the processor. Is there
>> any way my sister can check that, maybe in the bios, before she
>> reformats? Because as of right now, the computer completely refuses to
>> start. I think it has a virus.
>> That's good to know that most of the games I would want to play do in
>> fact work. I'm guessing that there really isn't much of a difference
>> between 32 and 64 bit systems, then, besides improved graphics and
>> performance. But I definitely did plan to turn off Uac. As you
>> probably know, Jaws won't work with that at all, and its very
>> annoying. So you have to play the guessing game even when you try to
>> disable it since that dialog comes up and Jaws doesn't speak, so you
>> kind of have to tab and hit buttons until you turn it off, which you
>> won't know until you're returned to Windows anyway since you have no
>> speech during the process.
>>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread MamaPeach
I will re-atemt a reinstall and see what the message is. Might not get to it 
today as I am dealing with a frustrating IOS 6 issue with my iphone right 
now.


-Original Message- 
From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:48 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

Hi,

What's the error you get? It sounds to me like a missing dependency of
some sort. Most  compatibility errors are solvable by figuring out why
you are getting the error in the first place.



On 9/22/12, MamaPeach  wrote:
I have tried running them after setting compatibility wizard and I 
continue


to receive errors each time. Can't figure out why. I played these games on 
a


WindowsXP machine running service pack 2 but setting the compatibility
wizard to that will not let me play them.


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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread MamaPeach
I have all of Jim Kitchen's games and they work perfectly. So yep, I have 
it.


-Original Message- 
From: Phil Vlasak

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

Hi Peach,
Did you install and run Jim Kitchen's win kit?
http://www.kitchensinc.net/

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From: "MamaPeach" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?


I have tried running them after setting compatibility wizard and I continue 
to receive errors each time. Can't figure out why. I played these games on 
a WindowsXP machine running service pack 2 but setting the compatibility 
wizard to that will not let me play them.


-Original Message- 
From: Dallas O'Brien

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:13 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit 
systems?


they should in fact run, but you will probably have to play around
with compatibility settings and so on.
also, any program that is a 32 bit program should run under 64 bit
windows 7, if you give it the right settings, and as said before,
download and install things like vb6 runtime libraries and all that.

and yes, if your processor isn't 64 bit, you won't be able to install
windows 7 64 bit to it at all. it will not let you.

however, in saying that, all mainstream CPUs for about the last 4 to 6
years have been 64 bit.
and this is a good time to change over to 64 bit, as from all the info
we have, the next version of windows, that is now under development,
will be 64 bit only. not 32 bit in any form.
so a lot of programmers are going to have to start coding programs in
64 bit, and stop this 32 bit stuff. and of course, 64 bit programs
can't run on a 32 bit machine. so the sooner you can get on to 64 bit,
the better, as it offers the most widest range of programs, including
games!
Dallas


On 23/09/2012, Desiree Oudinot  wrote:

That's a shame. I have a few of his games as well. Thanks for letting
me know that.

On 9/22/12, MamaPeach  wrote:

I can't get any of the Robert Bets games to work on my Windows 7, 64 bit
machine, which I am totally upset over since I purchased those games. 
And

he

never responds to any emails regarding whether there is a fix for this
issue.

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Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit
systems?

As far as I can tell, almost every single game works on win
seven, though you may or may not need some dependancies. I can't
think of anything that won't run if you've got the visual basic
libraries installed. There may be one out there, and a couple of
the games probably load faster or run differently on their
prefered operating systems, but if you get the dependancies you
need and possibly set compatibility mode, you should be just
fine.

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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Peach,
Did you install and run Jim Kitchen's win kit?
http://www.kitchensinc.net/

- Original Message - 
From: "MamaPeach" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?


I have tried running them after setting compatibility wizard and I continue 
to receive errors each time. Can't figure out why. I played these games on 
a WindowsXP machine running service pack 2 but setting the compatibility 
wizard to that will not let me play them.


-Original Message- 
From: Dallas O'Brien

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:13 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit 
systems?


they should in fact run, but you will probably have to play around
with compatibility settings and so on.
also, any program that is a 32 bit program should run under 64 bit
windows 7, if you give it the right settings, and as said before,
download and install things like vb6 runtime libraries and all that.

and yes, if your processor isn't 64 bit, you won't be able to install
windows 7 64 bit to it at all. it will not let you.

however, in saying that, all mainstream CPUs for about the last 4 to 6
years have been 64 bit.
and this is a good time to change over to 64 bit, as from all the info
we have, the next version of windows, that is now under development,
will be 64 bit only. not 32 bit in any form.
so a lot of programmers are going to have to start coding programs in
64 bit, and stop this 32 bit stuff. and of course, 64 bit programs
can't run on a 32 bit machine. so the sooner you can get on to 64 bit,
the better, as it offers the most widest range of programs, including
games!
Dallas


On 23/09/2012, Desiree Oudinot  wrote:

That's a shame. I have a few of his games as well. Thanks for letting
me know that.

On 9/22/12, MamaPeach  wrote:

I can't get any of the Robert Bets games to work on my Windows 7, 64 bit
machine, which I am totally upset over since I purchased those games. 
And

he

never responds to any emails regarding whether there is a fix for this
issue.

-Original Message-
From: john
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit
systems?

As far as I can tell, almost every single game works on win
seven, though you may or may not need some dependancies. I can't
think of anything that won't run if you've got the visual basic
libraries installed. There may be one out there, and a couple of
the games probably load faster or run differently on their
prefered operating systems, but if you get the dependancies you
need and possibly set compatibility mode, you should be just
fine.

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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

What's the error you get? It sounds to me like a missing dependency of
some sort. Most  compatibility errors are solvable by figuring out why
you are getting the error in the first place.



On 9/22/12, MamaPeach  wrote:
> I have tried running them after setting compatibility wizard and I continue
>
> to receive errors each time. Can't figure out why. I played these games on a
>
> WindowsXP machine running service pack 2 but setting the compatibility
> wizard to that will not let me play them.

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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Desiree,

Yes, your sister should be able to figure out your processor type,
speed, cache etc simply by looking at the bios. She's going to have to
check your system requirements anyway because you can't just slap
Windows 7 on just any old machine. Windows 7 needs a faster processor,
more memory, and a better video card than XP just to start off.

As for User Account Control  I've used Jaws 13 just fine with UAC so
I'm not really sure where you are coming from when you talk about not
having speech etc. I've not had that problem with Jaws 11, 12, or 13
on any Windows 7 computer I've used. Jaws is fully UAC compatible so
it doesn't have to be turned off for Jaws sake. Are you running an out
of date version of Jaws?

As far as differences between 32-bit and 64-bit it isn't an issue of
better graphics. There are a lot of differences under the hood such as
how much ram it supports, what size hard drives it supports, how big
the files are it supports, and things like that. Its not necessarily
something you as an end user will notice, but there are technical
differences to be aware of.

For example, the 32-bit version of Windows 7 will only recognize up to
4 GB of ram. That is pretty decent for the average user, but let's say
you want to handle a number of virtual machines or something and put
in 8 GB or 12 GB of ram. You'll need a 64-bit version of Windows 7
which supports up to 128 GB of ram for that. As I said something like
that isn't likely to effect the average user, but could be important
to some people.

Cheers!



On 9/22/12, Desiree Oudinot  wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> You know what, to be honest, I dont know about the processor. Is there
> any way my sister can check that, maybe in the bios, before she
> reformats? Because as of right now, the computer completely refuses to
> start. I think it has a virus.
> That's good to know that most of the games I would want to play do in
> fact work. I'm guessing that there really isn't much of a difference
> between 32 and 64 bit systems, then, besides improved graphics and
> performance. But I definitely did plan to turn off Uac. As you
> probably know, Jaws won't work with that at all, and its very
> annoying. So you have to play the guessing game even when you try to
> disable it since that dialog comes up and Jaws doesn't speak, so you
> kind of have to tab and hit buttons until you turn it off, which you
> won't know until you're returned to Windows anyway since you have no
> speech during the process.
>

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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread MamaPeach
I have tried running them after setting compatibility wizard and I continue 
to receive errors each time. Can't figure out why. I played these games on a 
WindowsXP machine running service pack 2 but setting the compatibility 
wizard to that will not let me play them.


-Original Message- 
From: Dallas O'Brien

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:13 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

they should in fact run, but you will probably have to play around
with compatibility settings and so on.
also, any program that is a 32 bit program should run under 64 bit
windows 7, if you give it the right settings, and as said before,
download and install things like vb6 runtime libraries and all that.

and yes, if your processor isn't 64 bit, you won't be able to install
windows 7 64 bit to it at all. it will not let you.

however, in saying that, all mainstream CPUs for about the last 4 to 6
years have been 64 bit.
and this is a good time to change over to 64 bit, as from all the info
we have, the next version of windows, that is now under development,
will be 64 bit only. not 32 bit in any form.
so a lot of programmers are going to have to start coding programs in
64 bit, and stop this 32 bit stuff. and of course, 64 bit programs
can't run on a 32 bit machine. so the sooner you can get on to 64 bit,
the better, as it offers the most widest range of programs, including
games!
Dallas


On 23/09/2012, Desiree Oudinot  wrote:

That's a shame. I have a few of his games as well. Thanks for letting
me know that.

On 9/22/12, MamaPeach  wrote:

I can't get any of the Robert Bets games to work on my Windows 7, 64 bit
machine, which I am totally upset over since I purchased those games. And
he

never responds to any emails regarding whether there is a fix for this
issue.

-Original Message-
From: john
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit
systems?

As far as I can tell, almost every single game works on win
seven, though you may or may not need some dependancies. I can't
think of anything that won't run if you've got the visual basic
libraries installed. There may be one out there, and a couple of
the games probably load faster or run differently on their
prefered operating systems, but if you get the dependancies you
need and possibly set compatibility mode, you should be just
fine.

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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread Dallas O'Brien
they should in fact run, but you will probably have to play around
with compatibility settings and so on.
also, any program that is a 32 bit program should run under 64 bit
windows 7, if you give it the right settings, and as said before,
download and install things like vb6 runtime libraries and all that.

and yes, if your processor isn't 64 bit, you won't be able to install
windows 7 64 bit to it at all. it will not let you.

however, in saying that, all mainstream CPUs for about the last 4 to 6
 years have been 64 bit.
and this is a good time to change over to 64 bit, as from all the info
we have, the next version of windows, that is now under development,
will be 64 bit only. not 32 bit in any form.
so a lot of programmers are going to have to start coding programs in
64 bit, and stop this 32 bit stuff. and of course, 64 bit programs
can't run on a 32 bit machine. so the sooner you can get on to 64 bit,
the better, as it offers the most widest range of programs, including
games!
Dallas


On 23/09/2012, Desiree Oudinot  wrote:
> That's a shame. I have a few of his games as well. Thanks for letting
> me know that.
>
> On 9/22/12, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> I can't get any of the Robert Bets games to work on my Windows 7, 64 bit
>> machine, which I am totally upset over since I purchased those games. And
>> he
>>
>> never responds to any emails regarding whether there is a fix for this
>> issue.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: john
>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:56 PM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit
>> systems?
>>
>> As far as I can tell, almost every single game works on win
>> seven, though you may or may not need some dependancies. I can't
>> think of anything that won't run if you've got the visual basic
>> libraries installed. There may be one out there, and a couple of
>> the games probably load faster or run differently on their
>> prefered operating systems, but if you get the dependancies you
>> need and possibly set compatibility mode, you should be just
>> fine.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Desiree Oudinot > To: gamers@audyssey.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:03:47 -0400
>> Subject: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit
>> systems?
>>
>> Hi,
>> yesterday was my birthday, and my sister said she would fix my
>> desktop, which has been down for several months, and that in
>> order to
>> do that she would have to reformat. So, she bought a copy of
>> Windows
>> 7, and unfortunately, all they had was 64 bit. So I need to know
>> what
>> the deal with running audio games and 64 bit Windows is, since I
>> really didn't think I would have to do this, but I'm not really
>> complaining since it was a nice thing for her to do. Anyway, I
>> know
>> that games like Grizly Gulch and Chillingham won't work, and I
>> hear
>> conflicting things about whether Kitchensinc games will work. But
>> what
>> about older titles that maybe were around in the Bavisoft era,
>> such as
>> Draconus games, or or the games like Crazy Darts and Win Fight
>> that
>> were around then? And, if these games aren't compatible by
>> default, is
>> there some way that I can get them to be? Any help would be
>> appreciated.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread Desiree Oudinot
Hi Thomas,
You know what, to be honest, I dont know about the processor. Is there
any way my sister can check that, maybe in the bios, before she
reformats? Because as of right now, the computer completely refuses to
start. I think it has a virus.
That's good to know that most of the games I would want to play do in
fact work. I'm guessing that there really isn't much of a difference
between 32 and 64 bit systems, then, besides improved graphics and
performance. But I definitely did plan to turn off Uac. As you
probably know, Jaws won't work with that at all, and its very
annoying. So you have to play the guessing game even when you try to
disable it since that dialog comes up and Jaws doesn't speak, so you
kind of have to tab and hit buttons until you turn it off, which you
won't know until you're returned to Windows anyway since you have no
speech during the process.

On 9/22/12, Thomas Ward  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wouldn't worry about it too much. The majority of audio games will
> work fine on a 64-bit version of Windows 7 provided you install
> dependencies. As you might know by now Windows 7 does not come with
> Visual Basic 6 so that has to be installed before you play any games,
> but you can get that by simply installing Jim Kitchen's Winkit setup.
> The other thing is you should disable User Account Control as that
> will likely cause older games and software to crash which hasn't been
> updated to be UAC compliant.
>
> That said, I have played all of Jim Kitchen's games under Windows 7
> such as Life, Monopoly, Baseball, Football, etc and haven't
> experienced any issues provided I made sure to install all the files
> to c:\Program Files (x86)\Kitchensinc rather than c:\Program
> Files\Kitchensinc.
>
> I have also had no problems with the Draconis games. I've successfully
> played Alien Outback, Dynaman, Monkey Business, and ESP Pinball
> Classic. So those games will work as well.
>
> Basically, most games will work. If you find one that doesn't ask here
> on list and one of us Windows 7 64-bit users will help you figure out
> the problem and hopefully get it working. Its not really a big deal
> unless it is a really old game which was compiled for Dos such as
> Aemon Delux which is simply not compatible with 64-bit Windows because
> it was compiled for a 16-bit OS.
>
> Now, one last note. Does your desktop have a 64-bit processor?
>
> The reason I ask is if you have a 32-bit processor you must upgrade to
> a 32-bit copy of Windows 7. If you have a 32-bit processor and try and
> stick a 64-bit copy of Windows 7 on their you are boundf to run into
> issues. So just make sure you get the correct version of Windows 7 for
> your hardware.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 9/22/12, Desiree Oudinot  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> yesterday was my birthday, and my sister said she would fix my
>> desktop, which has been down for several months, and that in order to
>> do that she would have to reformat. So, she bought a copy of Windows
>> 7, and unfortunately, all they had was 64 bit. So I need to know what
>> the deal with running audio games and 64 bit Windows is, since I
>> really didn't think I would have to do this, but I'm not really
>> complaining since it was a nice thing for her to do. Anyway, I know
>> that games like Grizly Gulch and Chillingham won't work, and I hear
>> conflicting things about whether Kitchensinc games will work. But what
>> about older titles that maybe were around in the Bavisoft era, such as
>> Draconus games, or or the games like Crazy Darts and Win Fight that
>> were around then? And, if these games aren't compatible by default, is
>> there some way that I can get them to be? Any help would be
>> appreciated.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread Desiree Oudinot
That's a shame. I have a few of his games as well. Thanks for letting
me know that.

On 9/22/12, MamaPeach  wrote:
> I can't get any of the Robert Bets games to work on my Windows 7, 64 bit
> machine, which I am totally upset over since I purchased those games. And he
>
> never responds to any emails regarding whether there is a fix for this
> issue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: john
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:56 PM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit
> systems?
>
> As far as I can tell, almost every single game works on win
> seven, though you may or may not need some dependancies. I can't
> think of anything that won't run if you've got the visual basic
> libraries installed. There may be one out there, and a couple of
> the games probably load faster or run differently on their
> prefered operating systems, but if you get the dependancies you
> need and possibly set compatibility mode, you should be just
> fine.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Desiree Oudinot  To: gamers@audyssey.org
> Date sent: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:03:47 -0400
> Subject: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit
> systems?
>
> Hi,
> yesterday was my birthday, and my sister said she would fix my
> desktop, which has been down for several months, and that in
> order to
> do that she would have to reformat. So, she bought a copy of
> Windows
> 7, and unfortunately, all they had was 64 bit. So I need to know
> what
> the deal with running audio games and 64 bit Windows is, since I
> really didn't think I would have to do this, but I'm not really
> complaining since it was a nice thing for her to do. Anyway, I
> know
> that games like Grizly Gulch and Chillingham won't work, and I
> hear
> conflicting things about whether Kitchensinc games will work. But
> what
> about older titles that maybe were around in the Bavisoft era,
> such as
> Draconus games, or or the games like Crazy Darts and Win Fight
> that
> were around then? And, if these games aren't compatible by
> default, is
> there some way that I can get them to be? Any help would be
> appreciated.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread MamaPeach
I can't get any of the Robert Bets games to work on my Windows 7, 64 bit 
machine, which I am totally upset over since I purchased those games. And he 
never responds to any emails regarding whether there is a fix for this 
issue.


-Original Message- 
From: john

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

As far as I can tell, almost every single game works on win
seven, though you may or may not need some dependancies. I can't
think of anything that won't run if you've got the visual basic
libraries installed. There may be one out there, and a couple of
the games probably load faster or run differently on their
prefered operating systems, but if you get the dependancies you
need and possibly set compatibility mode, you should be just
fine.

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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

I wouldn't worry about it too much. The majority of audio games will
work fine on a 64-bit version of Windows 7 provided you install
dependencies. As you might know by now Windows 7 does not come with
Visual Basic 6 so that has to be installed before you play any games,
but you can get that by simply installing Jim Kitchen's Winkit setup.
The other thing is you should disable User Account Control as that
will likely cause older games and software to crash which hasn't been
updated to be UAC compliant.

That said, I have played all of Jim Kitchen's games under Windows 7
such as Life, Monopoly, Baseball, Football, etc and haven't
experienced any issues provided I made sure to install all the files
to c:\Program Files (x86)\Kitchensinc rather than c:\Program
Files\Kitchensinc.

I have also had no problems with the Draconis games. I've successfully
played Alien Outback, Dynaman, Monkey Business, and ESP Pinball
Classic. So those games will work as well.

Basically, most games will work. If you find one that doesn't ask here
on list and one of us Windows 7 64-bit users will help you figure out
the problem and hopefully get it working. Its not really a big deal
unless it is a really old game which was compiled for Dos such as
Aemon Delux which is simply not compatible with 64-bit Windows because
it was compiled for a 16-bit OS.

Now, one last note. Does your desktop have a 64-bit processor?

The reason I ask is if you have a 32-bit processor you must upgrade to
a 32-bit copy of Windows 7. If you have a 32-bit processor and try and
stick a 64-bit copy of Windows 7 on their you are boundf to run into
issues. So just make sure you get the correct version of Windows 7 for
your hardware.

Cheers!


On 9/22/12, Desiree Oudinot  wrote:
> Hi,
> yesterday was my birthday, and my sister said she would fix my
> desktop, which has been down for several months, and that in order to
> do that she would have to reformat. So, she bought a copy of Windows
> 7, and unfortunately, all they had was 64 bit. So I need to know what
> the deal with running audio games and 64 bit Windows is, since I
> really didn't think I would have to do this, but I'm not really
> complaining since it was a nice thing for her to do. Anyway, I know
> that games like Grizly Gulch and Chillingham won't work, and I hear
> conflicting things about whether Kitchensinc games will work. But what
> about older titles that maybe were around in the Bavisoft era, such as
> Draconus games, or or the games like Crazy Darts and Win Fight that
> were around then? And, if these games aren't compatible by default, is
> there some way that I can get them to be? Any help would be
> appreciated.
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Re: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit systems?

2012-09-22 Thread john
As far as I can tell, almost every single game works on win 
seven, though you may or may not need some dependancies. I can't 
think of anything that won't run if you've got the visual basic 
libraries installed. There may be one out there, and a couple of 
the games probably load faster or run differently on their 
prefered operating systems, but if you get the dependancies you 
need and possibly set compatibility mode, you should be just 
fine.


- Original Message -
From: Desiree Oudinot Subject: [Audyssey] So which audio games don't work with 64 bit 
systems?


Hi,
yesterday was my birthday, and my sister said she would fix my
desktop, which has been down for several months, and that in 
order to
do that she would have to reformat. So, she bought a copy of 
Windows
7, and unfortunately, all they had was 64 bit. So I need to know 
what

the deal with running audio games and 64 bit Windows is, since I
really didn't think I would have to do this, but I'm not really
complaining since it was a nice thing for her to do. Anyway, I 
know
that games like Grizly Gulch and Chillingham won't work, and I 
hear
conflicting things about whether Kitchensinc games will work. But 
what
about older titles that maybe were around in the Bavisoft era, 
such as
Draconus games, or or the games like Crazy Darts and Win Fight 
that
were around then? And, if these games aren't compatible by 
default, is

there some way that I can get them to be? Any help would be
appreciated.

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim Kitchen's football error help

2012-09-22 Thread Dean Masters
I had tried that before and I didn't hear the percent sign but still got the 
error.


Dean


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From: Sharon

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:27 AM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim Kitchen's football error help

Hi Dean,
That is all I had to do was to hit the backspace.

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Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 4:23 AM
To: Dean Masters; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim Kitchen's football error help

Hi Dean,

Interesting. I just hit the backspace key and it removes that annoying
percent sign.

On 9/21/12, Dean Masters  wrote:

How did you remove the percent sign? If I hit either delete it types
in a period. If I hit an arrow key it types in a percent sign. So I
stil have no

idea if there is something in the box for the quarterback's name but
if I hit enter it asks if a certain name is OK I don't hear any
symbols so assume

it will be OK. but I still can't play the game for getting the error
at kickoff.

Dean


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Re: [Audyssey] Jim Kitchen's football error help

2012-09-22 Thread Sharon
Hi Dean,
That is all I had to do was to hit the backspace.

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 4:23 AM
To: Dean Masters; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim Kitchen's football error help

Hi Dean,

Interesting. I just hit the backspace key and it removes that annoying
percent sign.

On 9/21/12, Dean Masters  wrote:
> How did you remove the percent sign? If I hit either delete it types 
> in a period. If I hit an arrow key it types in a percent sign. So I 
> stil have no
>
> idea if there is something in the box for the quarterback's name but 
> if I hit enter it asks if a certain name is OK I don't hear any 
> symbols so assume
>
> it will be OK. but I still can't play the game for getting the error 
> at kickoff.
>
> Dean

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Re: [Audyssey] Games for kids

2012-09-22 Thread shaun everiss

hmmm tom, never really played with sighted in mind.
I am not a mainstreamer or a consoler.
sonic zoom and last crusade and teraformas are the only ones that 
come to mind and the blind eye.

Some of the experimental games to.
Though there is a thought.
eamon and its deluxe game would be playable though they are old dos games.
jims dos games would also be playable as they are text.
I have silent steal.
The only game I have had some success with are the lego starwars and 
lego games and not to many.

abes odyssey on ps1 is also playable to some point.
I know there are hardcore sport and fighting game fans on the forum.
There is swamp though not sure about graphics to much.
there may be others I just don't know them.
Its possible that the kinect xbox 360 games would be playable.
I have also played buzz which does have some audio and a lot of 
visual text on the screen.
I am not a rockband guitar hero, dance jam music jam dance central or 
other fan but all those including the guitar hero and the singstar 
series can be played.
I had some success playing xmen vs streetfighter and as well as that 
some other junk.

Unfortunately I lost a lot of audiotapes in a major throw away move ages ago.
The only game I played with any success was dragon ball z and sango 
both on emulators and ages ago in the dos and win95 days.

I basically bashed my keyboard till it broke not knowing what things were.
I occationally got it right but I was never a fighter.

At 06:33 a.m. 21/09/2012 -0400, you wrote:

Hi Shaun,

UmWhile that post was informative I think you missed her question
completely. Her question was if there were any games her son could
play that were A, accessible, and B, could be played with his sighted
friends. I'm assuming by her post she is asking about mainstream PC
and console games rather than strictly audio games which have no
graphics and are totally designed for a blind gamer's use. The list
you gave her was totally geared for a blind gamer only. So I'm not
sure how helpful it would be since it didn't really answer her
question.


On 9/21/12, shaun everiss  wrote:
> Hmmm.
> well jim kitchen has games on www.kitchensinc.net
> the majority are playble there are ofcause some adult games which he
> probably won't find suitable.
> but there is a few card games, board games like monopoly and life,
> golf, trucker, and a casino game which I do enjoy.
> www.vipzone.com has several stratogy and sports games.
> www.blindsoftware.com has a few games to.
> so does www.usagames.com
> www.gmagames.com has tank commander and shades of doom but maybe
> those are  a bit violent for his age.
> there is a sub game called lonewolf which is a stratogy sub simulator.
> tank commander has a lot of stratogy so does shades of doom.
> www.pcsgames.net has the sara game which is a harry potter stratogy sim.
> www.allinplay is a poker and other games.
> www.blindadrenaline.com I think thats the right address has cards to.
> then there is www.rsgames.co.nr which has a few games on it, its
> client has a few online games.
> then there is the quentinc playroom which I always forget the address
> of it has 1000 miles uno, and chess among others.
> Outside of audiogames
> www.choiceofgames.com has a load of good html games.
> above that www.ifarchive.org has loads of adventure interactive
> fiction games on it.
> though I don't play all of those that much.
> now over that there are gamebooks on www.ffproject.com and there are others
> a comercial list is somewhere on www.pcsgames.net of all the games we have.
> www.audiogames.net
> is a site that has just about every game developed for the blind.
> the forum which you and your kid  should join is quite good, there
> are various fighting and other games, japanese styles and other
> arcaders and other things to.
> its the main hub.
> this includes the experimental games which could themselves be interesting.
> Finally there is www.audyssey.org which has this list and all issues
> of the magazine though a lot of articles in the earlier issues don't
> exist well may not be acurate.
> www.l-works.net has arcade games on it.
> I think thats it.
> guys is that it did I miss something?
>

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