Re: [Audyssey] enabling output window in mush z
Nice discovery there richard, it's likely one I'll use myself since that is a quick work around and with my windows shortcut ctrl alt o to open outlook express the usual hotkey doesn't work for me either. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] captcha
That's actually not a bad idea dennis. there used to be a universal forum registration system, whereby you could effectively create a username and account on a general server, and then use this to validate other methods (we had it on audigoames.net for a while), the problem was, other services didn't use it, making it a little pointless. Still, if google setup a similar universal account system requiring mail address, username and password which could be used on other sites rather the way googlecurrently farm their captcha service out to other sites, that would go a good way to creating a nicely accessible system, since if google! used it odds are other people would to. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Dennis Towne" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] captcha In addition to AA, I also run the AA wiki and forums, and I've completely given up on capchas. They're really just ineffective, and even really hard ones still let through more spam accounts than I prefer. We use something a lot stronger. For forum registration, we currently only require a valid player name from Alter Aeon. This makes sense, as really only AA players should be using it. Simply requiring a valid player name, with no capitals, cuts out more spam than any capcha I've ever seen. That said, we still get maybe half a dozen spam registrations per year, when they happen to pick a valid player name out of the blue. For the wiki, we require both a valid player name and the email associated with that player account. For something so simple, it's vastly more effective: the only spam account we've ever seen on the wiki was caused by a bug in the email check. Unfortunately, this really doesn't help other services. AA effectively provides a 'whitelist' of allowed accounts, based on who has created a character - no spammer is going to bother creating an AA account just so they can spam the wiki (at least not yet.) But forums don't really have any way to do that, because you can't verify where new users came from. Facebook and other big sites have tried to set up authentication and login services for other people to use for this purpose, but unless everyone uses the same one, you're still missing out on people. In the future, I'll probably still use the same model, just because I can. I'll have easy, capcha free registration in a place that spammers simply won't bother to hit, then use that registration to allow access to other services. I don't know how that model could be effective for other blind services, but perhaps it's worth thinking about. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: I've challenged such claims. If the builder says that it is accessible, show me by using it as if you needed to have that accessibility. The management staff where I worked insisted that their software was accessible to people using screen readers. They wanted the blind people to speed up their voice rates to gather the info more quickly. So a tech put JAWS at the highest speech rate, turned off the monitor, and played a credit card number. He then asked managers to repeat what they heard. Not even the blind screen reader users could do it. Repeating it several times only wasted time. The speed was then brought down to a reasonable level, and we could hear and get it the first time it was announced. Managers still insisted that we crank JAWS up to increase productivity. This is corporate logic, which is an oxymoron. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] captcha
Hi charlese. I fully agree, indeed my phd has a very similar discussion as part of my deffinition of accessibility, however frequently it's not possible to challenge such measures since, like google's captures they are simply handed down from on high by our mighty corporate or governmental masters, who have as much idea of practical access as a duck does of trade routes across the sahara. It's fine if you can A, challenge such judgements, and B, get the big whig's to listen, as indeed you did in your example with the management idiots, but more often than not that is simply not possible, look at the problems contacting capcom, nintendo or any other company about access measures, or Microsoft's very friendly post xp winows interface as a perfect example. This is another point I've put in my phd, that accessibility's affectivness is only rightly something that can be judged by the deisres of it's recipient, not by anyone else, however that's unfortunately not the way the world works. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Corporate VS IndependentDeveloperswasModeratorMessage
Hi Tom. that's fair enough, and as I said, I have nothing against an accessible 2D game, it's just that when I see people thinking that Q9 is a comparable game to megaman or even double dragon I do feel a little sad. On the T2002 turrican windows remake forums, one chap mentioned that T2002 was the game he loaded most in windows, and I have to agree. If I have a spare half an hour and want to play a game but don't want the complexity of an rpg, complex stratogy game or similar, I fire up T2002 and go through one of the larger levels, trying to discover more. Indeed, I first ran across the turrican remake in 2006, round about the same time I found shades of doom, and while I spent lots of time playing shades I'd imagine I probably spent more on Turrican, not to mention that was the point I acquired the Megaman aniversery collection so got to try all the nes megaman games I'd missed in the 80s. I think that is actually part of the question. A game like shades or even papasangre (something I've been playing recently), which is an fps movement system, requires considderably more concentration, mental mapping etc to play, an d a 3D game would likely require more still. Does this mean such games shouldn't be made? heck no, I've had a lot of fun from such games over the years, however, thinking about pure exploration which is one of the major things I enjoy in a game like Turrican, it considderably helps if your first concern is not whether your facing the right way or can remember all the keys, or use the object navigator to wander around, but simply what is around the next corner, in the next chamber etc. That is it for me with Turrican, my central thought is the exploration, not navigating the game. I think this would be one advantage of 2D games, if properly designed even in audio. Since the navigation system is! simpler, there is an immediacy that makes the exploration the formost thing, rather the same way there is in a text adventure game (which likely also explains why I've been having so much fun with Eamon deluxe recently), where as even in the best designed first person game, there is a level of concentration and engagement required from the player that gets in the way if you like. it's rather like instruments. I've always said myself I enjoy singing more than playing any instrument, since in singing you are! the instrument, and all the physical feedback of what your doing, the consciousness of your body's position, your muscles etc is immediately and obviously to hand. There is nothing betwene! you and your technique. With other instruments though, say a flute, you need to physically master the insturment, you don't get that physical feedback or sensation, and your technique needs to be in balance with your pressing of the flute keys (this was in fact why i switched from being a wind player to being a singer). With a violin, things are even harder, since you are at second remove from the instrument and aren't even pressing keys, your using a bow to interact, meaning that connectivity is even harder to achieve. For a sighted person of course, none of this applies, since a sighted person has immediate and uncomplicated access to all in game information thanks to top down perception. They do not see! something and think "is that an enemy? a power up, or what?" they simply see it and instantly identify it, same with the space around them, and this applies equally to any game. This isn't to say of course that games which require more complex work or engagement aren't a good idea, afterall, racing and vehicle sim games have a very similar catagory and learning curve, (even for sighted players given the inequity in controls), and can be lots of fun, and I've certainly had fun with the more complex audio games myself, only to note one distinct advantage that 2d games in audio, even ones with sufficiently explorable maps might have over 3d, an obvious and instant engagement to the player, letting the player focus more completely on the game and the exploration of it's world, than in interpreting the environment to which they have limited audio access. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online
well done thomas and thanks. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:47 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online Hello gamers, I would like to announce as of April 12, at 1:38 PM U.S. Eastern Time, the Audyssey Magazine has officially gone online. While there are plenty of other online venues such as Audiogames.net where back issues of the magazine may be downloaded and read the official magazine page is http://www.audyssey.org/magazine.php and will be the magazine's new home on the web. As soon as new issues become available they will appear there as soon as they are posted for download. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
well maybe something is hosed and you will need to reformat/ reinstall. win7 is really robust though. At 12:26 PM 4/13/2013, you wrote: i tried the online installer maybe i went to the wrong i hate that site a little On 4/12/13, shaun everiss wrote: > isn't all dotnets compatible with all lower versions? > dotnet 5 4 and 3 are compatible with 2 and 1? > I thought that was the idea. > you can't update 1.1 on anything over vista or 2.0 3.0. > if you have outdated frameworks then they are not secure. > Technically you could hack them to be as secure as they should be but hmmm. > and if you have iis then 1.1 may or may not work anyway. > > At 01:00 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: >>Hi Dallas, >> >>Thank you for that information. I wasn't aware .NET 1.1 will not run >>on Win 8. I hadn't had any need to try it myself since all of my .NET >>development uses 3.5 and 4.0 which is compatible with .NET 4.0 which >>comes with Windows 8. I'll keep this information in mind, and I'm glad >>to know Che is now working with newer libs and tools. >> >>Cheers! >> >>On 4/11/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: >> > hi, this is the problem. 1.1 is not designed to run on 8. in fact, if >> > you try installing it, it comes up with errors. >> > however, che is in fact upgrading it to work in windows 8 and 7. so >> > i'd imagine he has moved up to newer version, or perhaps even gone a >> > different way around it. not to sure. but i am looking forwards to >> > finding out, cause i miss RR. >> > regards >> > dallas >> > >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham.
yeah sometimes sfx and music from some audiogames that were obviously other things come on and I can remember the game. its weird to hear some stuff out of context. Sometimes I may hear a sound from superliam or other games and think hold on why is this not starting then realise its the radio. At 06:06 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: One thing I like is whenever that menu music for Chillingham comes on the radio on Classic FM, it always reminds meof the game, the same for if you're playing the Sarah game and are in Dumbledore's office you get the 4 Season's music playing. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:00 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham. Hi Tom. I know what you mean, but I'm loathed to remove them entirely, since they obviously still come up in conversation and it's helpful for people to know what is being talked about when we say for instance "a menue based adventure system like chillingham" even if the games aren't available from the company. Personally, I really wish they'd just declare them abandonware so that people could! freely distribute copies of the cd files, since obviously they're not interested in the games anymore, indeed if their website gave a 4004 and was completely gone I'd suggest possibly a community decision on to that effect be made, but since they are still officially going even though for all practical purposes they seem to have fallen off the face of the globe, we can't really do that. #Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online
thats good news tom At 05:47 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: Hello gamers, I would like to announce as of April 12, at 1:38 PM U.S. Eastern Time, the Audyssey Magazine has officially gone online. While there are plenty of other online venues such as Audiogames.net where back issues of the magazine may be downloaded and read the official magazine page is http://www.audyssey.org/magazine.php and will be the magazine's new home on the web. As soon as new issues become available they will appear there as soon as they are posted for download. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
hmmm you should still be able to get it to run. I used it on 7. download and run the latest websetup and see. At 02:49 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: i couldnt get derict x 9 to run not sure where to go from here I am using win 8 so i think i will wait until the game is updated On 4/12/13, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Trouble, > > Yes, exactly. Its not a lot of work porting a game from .NET 1.1 to > say .NET 2.0, 3.0, or 4.0. However, given the fact that we now have > Windows 8 and .NET 5 out already a developer really needs to continue > to upgrade his or her code to keep in line with the technology of > today and not continue to be using > APIs and libraries from 10 years ago. I don't know if people realize > this fact, but .NET 1.0 was released in 2002 and the 1.1 update was > released in 2003. Generally speaking Microsoft has a limit of 10 years > support on a specific technology, and we are now at that point so I'm > not surprised .NET 1.x will not operate on Windows 8. We've already > reached the 10 year support limit and .NET 2.0 will be 10 years in > 2015. Its important to stay up to date when you are a developer as > these technologies are updated and replaced fairly regularly and after > 10 years they get taken out of circulation. Any products still based > on the older technology will begin to run into compatibility issues > with newer and better operating systems and technologies. > > Cheers! > > On 4/12/13, Trouble wrote: >> Its just a good example why software needs to keep up with the latest >> ops. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
well any ideas for other games i should try i would love more games to play i have played entombed swamp and rtr even some of the kitchen sink games. I would play all most any kind of games On 4/12/13, shaun everiss wrote: > don't hold your breath. > I own a coppy but am unsure if I should write che off as bad or not. > it was 1 key for each system which made a licence file. > that server was not always up and people coppied them, che then made > basically everyone have to buy the game again to get another key. > I never got the game by paying as I tested it so I am not going to go > and get a crack for it. > But to say I am dissapointed that I have a game that I can't play > really is an understatement. > The only reason I don't even bother is that there are loads of games > better than rr in its current thing is. > Now if che does in fact end up releasing his game again, with a new > system, one that will allow you to move your licence round or at > least replace them without having to rebuy maybe something bsc uses > with 4 keys per year or something then fine I will go back. > To be honest the fact I never payed was one of the reasons I didn't > try to continue. > > At 01:02 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: >>All tis talk of Rail Racer has made me want to get back into it. Now >>I just gotta find out if Ce offers replacement keys. >> >> >> >>But thou must! >>-Original Message- From: Thomas Ward >>Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:00 AM >>To: Gamers Discussion list >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8 >> >>Hi Dallas, >> >>Thank you for that information. I wasn't aware .NET 1.1 will not run >>on Win 8. I hadn't had any need to try it myself since all of my .NET >>development uses 3.5 and 4.0 which is compatible with .NET 4.0 which >>comes with Windows 8. I'll keep this information in mind, and I'm glad >>to know Che is now working with newer libs and tools. >> >>Cheers! >> >>On 4/11/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: >>>hi, this is the problem. 1.1 is not designed to run on 8. in fact, if >>>you try installing it, it comes up with errors. >>>however, che is in fact upgrading it to work in windows 8 and 7. so >>>i'd imagine he has moved up to newer version, or perhaps even gone a >>>different way around it. not to sure. but i am looking forwards to >>>finding out, cause i miss RR. >>>regards >>>dallas >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
well 5.0/4.5 really I guess. At 01:40 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: Hi Trouble, Yes, exactly. Its not a lot of work porting a game from .NET 1.1 to say .NET 2.0, 3.0, or 4.0. However, given the fact that we now have Windows 8 and .NET 5 out already a developer really needs to continue to upgrade his or her code to keep in line with the technology of today and not continue to be using APIs and libraries from 10 years ago. I don't know if people realize this fact, but .NET 1.0 was released in 2002 and the 1.1 update was released in 2003. Generally speaking Microsoft has a limit of 10 years support on a specific technology, and we are now at that point so I'm not surprised .NET 1.x will not operate on Windows 8. We've already reached the 10 year support limit and .NET 2.0 will be 10 years in 2015. Its important to stay up to date when you are a developer as these technologies are updated and replaced fairly regularly and after 10 years they get taken out of circulation. Any products still based on the older technology will begin to run into compatibility issues with newer and better operating systems and technologies. Cheers! On 4/12/13, Trouble wrote: > Its just a good example why software needs to keep up with the latest ops. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
I don't think that matters tom the licence server has been down for ages now. it has never been that stable and as it was now che is rewriting it well. You can actually play if you have a key and don't register but you can't run any online anything though. At 01:09 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Yes and no. In theory any .NET 2.0 application will run on .NET 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, or 5.0 because the .NET Framework is .NET 2.0 backward compatible. The problem is that .NET 1.1 and 1.0 are deprecated, and there was a major change from 1.x to 2.0 which introduces some backward compatibility issues when a 1.x app tries to use a newer version of the .NET Framework. So in some cases it will work and in others it won't. So while .NET is usually backward compatible you can't always count on that for .NET 1.x stuff. Although, with Rail Racer I have gotten it to run on Windows 7 without running the .NET 1.1 installer. Its just the licensing tool won't work. Cheers! On 4/12/13, shaun everiss wrote: > I thought dotnet 5 and below were compatible with railracer. > you may have to load directx9 again, dotnet 1.1 may install but its > not needed and you won't be able to update it at all. > as a stupid bordum thing I found a way to hack the dotnet installer > so it would load. > but you don't need to load it really. > On that note I wouldn't even bother about railracer. > 1.1 is a total pile, the activation system has been changed and that > system is down. > worse only 1 file per unit licence and 1 machine you get another or > lost it you had to buy another code another 40 bucks I think at the > time because people hacked the code. > Its supposed to be changed now. > but still. > dotnet any dotnet should be compatible with perevious versions at > least I thought it would be. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
i tried the online installer maybe i went to the wrong i hate that site a little On 4/12/13, shaun everiss wrote: > isn't all dotnets compatible with all lower versions? > dotnet 5 4 and 3 are compatible with 2 and 1? > I thought that was the idea. > you can't update 1.1 on anything over vista or 2.0 3.0. > if you have outdated frameworks then they are not secure. > Technically you could hack them to be as secure as they should be but hmmm. > and if you have iis then 1.1 may or may not work anyway. > > At 01:00 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: >>Hi Dallas, >> >>Thank you for that information. I wasn't aware .NET 1.1 will not run >>on Win 8. I hadn't had any need to try it myself since all of my .NET >>development uses 3.5 and 4.0 which is compatible with .NET 4.0 which >>comes with Windows 8. I'll keep this information in mind, and I'm glad >>to know Che is now working with newer libs and tools. >> >>Cheers! >> >>On 4/11/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: >> > hi, this is the problem. 1.1 is not designed to run on 8. in fact, if >> > you try installing it, it comes up with errors. >> > however, che is in fact upgrading it to work in windows 8 and 7. so >> > i'd imagine he has moved up to newer version, or perhaps even gone a >> > different way around it. not to sure. but i am looking forwards to >> > finding out, cause i miss RR. >> > regards >> > dallas >> > >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
don't hold your breath. I own a coppy but am unsure if I should write che off as bad or not. it was 1 key for each system which made a licence file. that server was not always up and people coppied them, che then made basically everyone have to buy the game again to get another key. I never got the game by paying as I tested it so I am not going to go and get a crack for it. But to say I am dissapointed that I have a game that I can't play really is an understatement. The only reason I don't even bother is that there are loads of games better than rr in its current thing is. Now if che does in fact end up releasing his game again, with a new system, one that will allow you to move your licence round or at least replace them without having to rebuy maybe something bsc uses with 4 keys per year or something then fine I will go back. To be honest the fact I never payed was one of the reasons I didn't try to continue. At 01:02 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: All tis talk of Rail Racer has made me want to get back into it. Now I just gotta find out if Ce offers replacement keys. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:00 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8 Hi Dallas, Thank you for that information. I wasn't aware .NET 1.1 will not run on Win 8. I hadn't had any need to try it myself since all of my .NET development uses 3.5 and 4.0 which is compatible with .NET 4.0 which comes with Windows 8. I'll keep this information in mind, and I'm glad to know Che is now working with newer libs and tools. Cheers! On 4/11/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: hi, this is the problem. 1.1 is not designed to run on 8. in fact, if you try installing it, it comes up with errors. however, che is in fact upgrading it to work in windows 8 and 7. so i'd imagine he has moved up to newer version, or perhaps even gone a different way around it. not to sure. but i am looking forwards to finding out, cause i miss RR. regards dallas --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
isn't all dotnets compatible with all lower versions? dotnet 5 4 and 3 are compatible with 2 and 1? I thought that was the idea. you can't update 1.1 on anything over vista or 2.0 3.0. if you have outdated frameworks then they are not secure. Technically you could hack them to be as secure as they should be but hmmm. and if you have iis then 1.1 may or may not work anyway. At 01:00 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: Hi Dallas, Thank you for that information. I wasn't aware .NET 1.1 will not run on Win 8. I hadn't had any need to try it myself since all of my .NET development uses 3.5 and 4.0 which is compatible with .NET 4.0 which comes with Windows 8. I'll keep this information in mind, and I'm glad to know Che is now working with newer libs and tools. Cheers! On 4/11/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: > hi, this is the problem. 1.1 is not designed to run on 8. in fact, if > you try installing it, it comes up with errors. > however, che is in fact upgrading it to work in windows 8 and 7. so > i'd imagine he has moved up to newer version, or perhaps even gone a > different way around it. not to sure. but i am looking forwards to > finding out, cause i miss RR. > regards > dallas > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham.
I aggree tom. as they stand the games grizley gulch and chillingham are not that bad exactly. my issue with chillingham was mainly the combat system. you never run out of ammo and although in gg and chillingham you have the 5 position combat system which is quite hard you could get used to that. the puzzles in both games can be tedius you quickly get bored with them though some can be a challenge. There are a few things that could improve both games. 1. full fps style combat you can run out of amo. ofcause there would need to be places to get more. 2. if you get shot or bitten you actually die you don't currently you just loose all your cash. 3. 3d environment or at least one where you wander round. you should be able to run past enemies or jump over them. There are no traps for eather game. At 12:55 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: Hi Darren, Well, its nice to know they can be made to run on Win 7 so I stand corrected about that then. However, the point still remains that Bavisoft has not stayed up to date with changes in software, have not made an upgrade in like eight years, and are nearly impossible to contact. They are happy to take peoples' money, but have to be hounded to send the media which is a bad business all around. Cheers! On 4/11/13, Darren Duff wrote: > They run under 7 just fine... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham.
well maybe making them not exist would be a good thing. xp is due to die in the next 1 year from this month, in april next year xp support is due to die. the games work on vista and 7 aparently but need a bit to get them working and on 8 they don't even work at all aparently. so they were state of the art but now they are so simple and well outdated to put it politely that its not worth it. I have them from somewhere but on the update which I plan to do this or next year its likely that these will be among the software I delete. At 12:49 AM 4/13/2013, you wrote: Hi Dark, That's more than I plan to do.. I will not include them in the Audyssey games list as that would seem like an endorsement of some kind. Even if I put warnings on their pages not to buy or deal with Bavisoft I feel if I have to do that might as well remove them completely from the list, and treat them as though they do not exist at all. Cheers! On 4/12/13, dark wrote: > Just to offer a correction, what actually happened was that since I noticed > > bavisoft only ever responded to people who threatened to pirate their games, > > I posted a topic on audiogames.net with the subject "hacked copies of > chillingham and grizly gulch available free for download" and then the > message actually contained a very serious enquiry as to their status, but > they didn't even respond to that, and that was in 2010. > > For the record audiogames.net does not support posting of cracks and never > will. > > As to bavisoft, well they're a waste of space as far as I'm concerned, I've > > even relabled their entries in the db as unknown license type and included > notes to the effect that trying to order the games is basically throwing > your money away. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Hand-held devices.
You might be able to find one on Ebay. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Nicole white Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:32 PM To: Games list\ Subject: [Audyssey] Hand-held devices. If they're not selling the Franklin speller any longer, are there any talking hend-hell devices that i can play with? I am interested to know. It's a shame that Quenton C's play room didn't last as long as i thought it would. oh, are their any other clients like RS that have games that i could play that you recommend? no, i am not going on for the people. i feel that i am to impulsive to be there. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Hand-held devices.
If they're not selling the Franklin speller any longer, are there any talking hend-hell devices that i can play with? I am interested to know. It's a shame that Quenton C's play room didn't last as long as i thought it would. oh, are their any other clients like RS that have games that i could play that you recommend? no, i am not going on for the people. i feel that i am to impulsive to be there. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] enabling output window in mush z
HI, Great suggestion. So I did look in the output_functions.xml file. It does appear that in there you can change the keys to enable, or toggle, the output window. Also looked around at some of the other xml files in there. One of the files in the plug in folder was CaptureMudOutput.xml. This was written by Shawn Randall. It says that if you type in 'cmo', in lower case and no quotes or anything it will also enable a output window. So I tested it and it works just fine. One thing I did notice is that when you exit and come back you have to re-enable the output window. So another great work around. thanks. Shermanator - Original Message - From: "john" Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:55 AM You switch windows with control and tab. This works for all windows you have open, including muds and outputs. I would imagine it's possible to change the key to enable and disable the output window, though I can't tell you how at the moment. You'd have to look in the output_functions.xml file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online
Heyt Tom, you've been busy. GRIN. continue the great job that you've been doing on behalf of blind gamers everywhere. Now if we only could get Dragonus entertainment to make the silver dollar saloon windows format. Can't wait. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week." -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online Hello gamers, I would like to announce as of April 12, at 1:38 PM U.S. Eastern Time, the Audyssey Magazine has officially gone online. While there are plenty of other online venues such as Audiogames.net where back issues of the magazine may be downloaded and read the official magazine page is http://www.audyssey.org/magazine.php and will be the magazine's new home on the web. As soon as new issues become available they will appear there as soon as they are posted for download. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online
Thomas, A few years ago, I was concerned that the back issues would be lost, so I also mirrored them at: http://alteraeon.com/audyssey-archive/archive-new/ It's currently just a raw text/zip archive, but if you'd like me to set up a fully automated mirror, I could do so. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hello gamers, > > I would like to announce as of April 12, at 1:38 PM U.S. Eastern Time, > the Audyssey Magazine has officially gone online. While there are > plenty of other online venues such as Audiogames.net where back issues > of the magazine may be downloaded and read the official magazine page > is > http://www.audyssey.org/magazine.php > and will be the magazine's new home on the web. As soon as new issues > become available they will appear there as soon as they are posted for > download. > > Sincerely, > Thomas Ward > Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List > gamers-ow...@audyssey.org > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham.
One thing I like is whenever that menu music for Chillingham comes on the radio on Classic FM, it always reminds meof the game, the same for if you're playing the Sarah game and are in Dumbledore's office you get the 4 Season's music playing. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:00 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham. Hi Tom. I know what you mean, but I'm loathed to remove them entirely, since they obviously still come up in conversation and it's helpful for people to know what is being talked about when we say for instance "a menue based adventure system like chillingham" even if the games aren't available from the company. Personally, I really wish they'd just declare them abandonware so that people could! freely distribute copies of the cd files, since obviously they're not interested in the games anymore, indeed if their website gave a 4004 and was completely gone I'd suggest possibly a community decision on to that effect be made, but since they are still officially going even though for all practical purposes they seem to have fallen off the face of the globe, we can't really do that. #Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham.
Hi Tom. I know what you mean, but I'm loathed to remove them entirely, since they obviously still come up in conversation and it's helpful for people to know what is being talked about when we say for instance "a menue based adventure system like chillingham" even if the games aren't available from the company. Personally, I really wish they'd just declare them abandonware so that people could! freely distribute copies of the cd files, since obviously they're not interested in the games anymore, indeed if their website gave a 4004 and was completely gone I'd suggest possibly a community decision on to that effect be made, but since they are still officially going even though for all practical purposes they seem to have fallen off the face of the globe, we can't really do that. #Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Revisiting dragon pass
Hi James. It's a little shame you don't have an iphone, since while dragon pass isn't exactly like civilization, especially with it's rp elements it does rather belong to the same family. I would however recommend castaways particularly if your looking for that type of game on windows, it's not obviously quite as major as cilivzation but it's certainly got the building blocks and got enough gameplay to keep you busy for a while. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Now Online
Hello gamers, I would like to announce as of April 12, at 1:38 PM U.S. Eastern Time, the Audyssey Magazine has officially gone online. While there are plenty of other online venues such as Audiogames.net where back issues of the magazine may be downloaded and read the official magazine page is http://www.audyssey.org/magazine.php and will be the magazine's new home on the web. As soon as new issues become available they will appear there as soon as they are posted for download. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] captcha
that's rediculous. Your managers had a cheek there. Amanda -- From: "Charles Rivard" Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 5:35 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] captcha I've challenged such claims. If the builder says that it is accessible, show me by using it as if you needed to have that accessibility. The management staff where I worked insisted that their software was accessible to people using screen readers. They wanted the blind people to speed up their voice rates to gather the info more quickly. So a tech put JAWS at the highest speech rate, turned off the monitor, and played a credit card number. He then asked managers to repeat what they heard. Not even the blind screen reader users could do it. Repeating it several times only wasted time. The speed was then brought down to a reasonable level, and we could hear and get it the first time it was announced. Managers still insisted that we crank JAWS up to increase productivity. This is corporate logic, which is an oxymoron. Just because there is a ramp, if it is too steep or narrow, and the entrance is not wide enough, it is not accessible. Same for computers and systems. If it is unusable, it is not accessible. With proper modification and use, it can be made accessible, increasing your number of customers. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] captcha This is exactly why it's such an issue charles. It's fairly clear that this is a lip service to access and wasn't ever tested as you describe, sort of like someone claiming their building is wheel chair accessible because it has a ramp that goes straight into the broom cupboard which is two foot wide and would never actually fit! a wheel chair, but hay, it's got a ramp! :D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] captcha
In addition to AA, I also run the AA wiki and forums, and I've completely given up on capchas. They're really just ineffective, and even really hard ones still let through more spam accounts than I prefer. We use something a lot stronger. For forum registration, we currently only require a valid player name from Alter Aeon. This makes sense, as really only AA players should be using it. Simply requiring a valid player name, with no capitals, cuts out more spam than any capcha I've ever seen. That said, we still get maybe half a dozen spam registrations per year, when they happen to pick a valid player name out of the blue. For the wiki, we require both a valid player name and the email associated with that player account. For something so simple, it's vastly more effective: the only spam account we've ever seen on the wiki was caused by a bug in the email check. Unfortunately, this really doesn't help other services. AA effectively provides a 'whitelist' of allowed accounts, based on who has created a character - no spammer is going to bother creating an AA account just so they can spam the wiki (at least not yet.) But forums don't really have any way to do that, because you can't verify where new users came from. Facebook and other big sites have tried to set up authentication and login services for other people to use for this purpose, but unless everyone uses the same one, you're still missing out on people. In the future, I'll probably still use the same model, just because I can. I'll have easy, capcha free registration in a place that spammers simply won't bother to hit, then use that registration to allow access to other services. I don't know how that model could be effective for other blind services, but perhaps it's worth thinking about. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: > I've challenged such claims. If the builder says that it is accessible, > show me by using it as if you needed to have that accessibility. The > management staff where I worked insisted that their software was accessible > to people using screen readers. They wanted the blind people to speed up > their voice rates to gather the info more quickly. So a tech put JAWS at > the highest speech rate, turned off the monitor, and played a credit card > number. He then asked managers to repeat what they heard. Not even the > blind screen reader users could do it. Repeating it several times only > wasted time. The speed was then brought down to a reasonable level, and we > could hear and get it the first time it was announced. Managers still > insisted that we crank JAWS up to increase productivity. This is corporate > logic, which is an oxymoron. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] captcha
I've challenged such claims. If the builder says that it is accessible, show me by using it as if you needed to have that accessibility. The management staff where I worked insisted that their software was accessible to people using screen readers. They wanted the blind people to speed up their voice rates to gather the info more quickly. So a tech put JAWS at the highest speech rate, turned off the monitor, and played a credit card number. He then asked managers to repeat what they heard. Not even the blind screen reader users could do it. Repeating it several times only wasted time. The speed was then brought down to a reasonable level, and we could hear and get it the first time it was announced. Managers still insisted that we crank JAWS up to increase productivity. This is corporate logic, which is an oxymoron. Just because there is a ramp, if it is too steep or narrow, and the entrance is not wide enough, it is not accessible. Same for computers and systems. If it is unusable, it is not accessible. With proper modification and use, it can be made accessible, increasing your number of customers. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] captcha This is exactly why it's such an issue charles. It's fairly clear that this is a lip service to access and wasn't ever tested as you describe, sort of like someone claiming their building is wheel chair accessible because it has a ramp that goes straight into the broom cupboard which is two foot wide and would never actually fit! a wheel chair, but hay, it's got a ramp! :D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Quenton C's play Room
Please send me the file if you can do that. If i use internet explorer, it'll give me a missing string band twenty when i actually try to use the file after installation. i can not seem to get Firefox to cooporate when i am trying to get this file. i absolutely want this file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Corporate VS IndependentDeveloperswasModeratorMessage
Hi Dark, Oh, don't tempt me. I already am eager to get working on a 3d FPS game that you and other blind gamers can play more than I want to complete a 2d side-scroller. If I hadn't already taken orders to that effect I'd have scrapped the side-scroller project ages ago and went full 3d FPS all the way. :D All the same I do understand where you are coming from. From an access point of view the 3d graphics and additional complexity of a full 3d environment is difficult to see when your vision is less than perfect. I noticed this problem myself when the third-person games like Tomb Raider came on to the market in 96/97 when my usable vision was pretty much limited to lights and colors. It was much easier to play an old 2d game on a large screen than it was to make out all the confusing 3d graphics and more detailed 3d environments. So I do understand how the advent of 3d games could kill access for you personally. Still, I played them, difficult as they were, and always dreamed that those games could be made accessible to me somehow. I guess for me I had grown up with 2d games in the 80's with original Montezuma's Revenge, Pitfall, Megaman, whatever and I was eager to get into the new stuff but it wasn't as accessible for me. Therefore when I want to write games I want to start out with the stuff I had limited access to rather than revisit games I must have played a million times over. In short, 2d games are in their own way old hat to me even though I realize that this community has had little to know opportunity to play a good quality sample of a side-scroller any more than they have had a full 3d FPS shooter. Its just that I have been there done that, and am ready to move on personally speaking. Cheers! On 4/11/13, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > Well present me with a 3D game I can play and I'll judge for myself. As I've > > said before, 3D pretty much killed game access and my participation in > mainstream games dead, indeed I remember trying to play mario 64, a game > with bright, high contrast graphics and big sprites that I should! by rights > > have been fine with but for the 3D space and visual complexity as a really > dysmal moment. Yes, there were beatemups like tekken and soulblade, but for > > someone used to exploring games like metroid and turrican to be limited > just! to that genre really wasn't fun. > > Give me something in audio 3D I can play and I'll gladly try it out though, > > but as it stands if I personally ever thought of creating a game, or content > > for a game, if it wasn't some sort of rpg syste, it'd likely be something in > > 2D and that is why i'd personally love a 2D editer to play with, especially > > because the 2D games we've seen in audio have been so lacking up to yet as > compared to what I'm used to graphically. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
Hi Lenron, That is probably the best option. I know Che is beta testing a new 2.0 version of Rail Racer so perhaps waiting until it comes out is the best decision rather than messing with the older 1.x versions. Now, as to installing DirectX did you try the web setup or the full installer. It might make a big difference which you tried downloading and installing. Cheers! On 4/12/13, lenron brown wrote: > i couldnt get derict x 9 to run not sure where to go from here I am > using win 8 so i think i will wait until the game is updated > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
i couldnt get derict x 9 to run not sure where to go from here I am using win 8 so i think i will wait until the game is updated On 4/12/13, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Trouble, > > Yes, exactly. Its not a lot of work porting a game from .NET 1.1 to > say .NET 2.0, 3.0, or 4.0. However, given the fact that we now have > Windows 8 and .NET 5 out already a developer really needs to continue > to upgrade his or her code to keep in line with the technology of > today and not continue to be using > APIs and libraries from 10 years ago. I don't know if people realize > this fact, but .NET 1.0 was released in 2002 and the 1.1 update was > released in 2003. Generally speaking Microsoft has a limit of 10 years > support on a specific technology, and we are now at that point so I'm > not surprised .NET 1.x will not operate on Windows 8. We've already > reached the 10 year support limit and .NET 2.0 will be 10 years in > 2015. Its important to stay up to date when you are a developer as > these technologies are updated and replaced fairly regularly and after > 10 years they get taken out of circulation. Any products still based > on the older technology will begin to run into compatibility issues > with newer and better operating systems and technologies. > > Cheers! > > On 4/12/13, Trouble wrote: >> Its just a good example why software needs to keep up with the latest >> ops. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] enabling output window in mush z
You switch windows with control and tab. This works for all windows you have open, including muds and outputs. I would imagine it's possible to change the key to enable and disable the output window, though I can't tell you how at the moment. You'd have to look in the output_functions.xml file. - Original Message - From: "Richard Sherman" In my case, I can turn the output window on and off using control alt O. So I went into mush z and poked around even more than before asking my question. Here is what I have under the window menu without the output window enabled: New Window Cascade Tile Horizontally Tile Vertically Arrange Icons Minimize Shift+Ctrl+M Close All Notepad Windows Maximize Restore 1 alter When I enable the output window it has a 2 output listed. But under no menu option that I can find is to enable the output window. If i select new window it just makes another copy of the alter window. Anyone else got any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Shermanator - Original Message - From: "dark" I indeed have the same issue since I have ctrl alt o as a shortcut to open outlook express. i've found that going into the windows menue you can find an option for output which will open the output window in whatever text editer you want instead of using the shortcut, I just then need to remember not to close it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
Hi Trouble, Yes, exactly. Its not a lot of work porting a game from .NET 1.1 to say .NET 2.0, 3.0, or 4.0. However, given the fact that we now have Windows 8 and .NET 5 out already a developer really needs to continue to upgrade his or her code to keep in line with the technology of today and not continue to be using APIs and libraries from 10 years ago. I don't know if people realize this fact, but .NET 1.0 was released in 2002 and the 1.1 update was released in 2003. Generally speaking Microsoft has a limit of 10 years support on a specific technology, and we are now at that point so I'm not surprised .NET 1.x will not operate on Windows 8. We've already reached the 10 year support limit and .NET 2.0 will be 10 years in 2015. Its important to stay up to date when you are a developer as these technologies are updated and replaced fairly regularly and after 10 years they get taken out of circulation. Any products still based on the older technology will begin to run into compatibility issues with newer and better operating systems and technologies. Cheers! On 4/12/13, Trouble wrote: > Its just a good example why software needs to keep up with the latest ops. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
Its just a good example why software needs to keep up with the latest ops. At 09:00 AM 4/12/2013, you wrote: Hi Dallas, Thank you for that information. I wasn't aware .NET 1.1 will not run on Win 8. I hadn't had any need to try it myself since all of my .NET development uses 3.5 and 4.0 which is compatible with .NET 4.0 which comes with Windows 8. I'll keep this information in mind, and I'm glad to know Che is now working with newer libs and tools. Cheers! On 4/11/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: > hi, this is the problem. 1.1 is not designed to run on 8. in fact, if > you try installing it, it comes up with errors. > however, che is in fact upgrading it to work in windows 8 and 7. so > i'd imagine he has moved up to newer version, or perhaps even gone a > different way around it. not to sure. but i am looking forwards to > finding out, cause i miss RR. > regards > dallas > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
Hi Shaun, Yes and no. In theory any .NET 2.0 application will run on .NET 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, or 5.0 because the .NET Framework is .NET 2.0 backward compatible. The problem is that .NET 1.1 and 1.0 are deprecated, and there was a major change from 1.x to 2.0 which introduces some backward compatibility issues when a 1.x app tries to use a newer version of the .NET Framework. So in some cases it will work and in others it won't. So while .NET is usually backward compatible you can't always count on that for .NET 1.x stuff. Although, with Rail Racer I have gotten it to run on Windows 7 without running the .NET 1.1 installer. Its just the licensing tool won't work. Cheers! On 4/12/13, shaun everiss wrote: > I thought dotnet 5 and below were compatible with railracer. > you may have to load directx9 again, dotnet 1.1 may install but its > not needed and you won't be able to update it at all. > as a stupid bordum thing I found a way to hack the dotnet installer > so it would load. > but you don't need to load it really. > On that note I wouldn't even bother about railracer. > 1.1 is a total pile, the activation system has been changed and that > system is down. > worse only 1 file per unit licence and 1 machine you get another or > lost it you had to buy another code another 40 bucks I think at the > time because people hacked the code. > Its supposed to be changed now. > but still. > dotnet any dotnet should be compatible with perevious versions at > least I thought it would be. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
All tis talk of Rail Racer has made me want to get back into it. Now I just gotta find out if Ce offers replacement keys. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:00 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8 Hi Dallas, Thank you for that information. I wasn't aware .NET 1.1 will not run on Win 8. I hadn't had any need to try it myself since all of my .NET development uses 3.5 and 4.0 which is compatible with .NET 4.0 which comes with Windows 8. I'll keep this information in mind, and I'm glad to know Che is now working with newer libs and tools. Cheers! On 4/11/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: hi, this is the problem. 1.1 is not designed to run on 8. in fact, if you try installing it, it comes up with errors. however, che is in fact upgrading it to work in windows 8 and 7. so i'd imagine he has moved up to newer version, or perhaps even gone a different way around it. not to sure. but i am looking forwards to finding out, cause i miss RR. regards dallas --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
Hi Dallas, Thank you for that information. I wasn't aware .NET 1.1 will not run on Win 8. I hadn't had any need to try it myself since all of my .NET development uses 3.5 and 4.0 which is compatible with .NET 4.0 which comes with Windows 8. I'll keep this information in mind, and I'm glad to know Che is now working with newer libs and tools. Cheers! On 4/11/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: > hi, this is the problem. 1.1 is not designed to run on 8. in fact, if > you try installing it, it comes up with errors. > however, che is in fact upgrading it to work in windows 8 and 7. so > i'd imagine he has moved up to newer version, or perhaps even gone a > different way around it. not to sure. but i am looking forwards to > finding out, cause i miss RR. > regards > dallas > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham.
Hi Darren, Well, its nice to know they can be made to run on Win 7 so I stand corrected about that then. However, the point still remains that Bavisoft has not stayed up to date with changes in software, have not made an upgrade in like eight years, and are nearly impossible to contact. They are happy to take peoples' money, but have to be hounded to send the media which is a bad business all around. Cheers! On 4/11/13, Darren Duff wrote: > They run under 7 just fine... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham.
Hi Dark, That's more than I plan to do.. I will not include them in the Audyssey games list as that would seem like an endorsement of some kind. Even if I put warnings on their pages not to buy or deal with Bavisoft I feel if I have to do that might as well remove them completely from the list, and treat them as though they do not exist at all. Cheers! On 4/12/13, dark wrote: > Just to offer a correction, what actually happened was that since I noticed > > bavisoft only ever responded to people who threatened to pirate their games, > > I posted a topic on audiogames.net with the subject "hacked copies of > chillingham and grizly gulch available free for download" and then the > message actually contained a very serious enquiry as to their status, but > they didn't even respond to that, and that was in 2010. > > For the record audiogames.net does not support posting of cracks and never > will. > > As to bavisoft, well they're a waste of space as far as I'm concerned, I've > > even relabled their entries in the db as unknown license type and included > notes to the effect that trying to order the games is basically throwing > your money away. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Revisiting dragon pass
Hello Dark Thank u so much 4 the links. I'll b shore 2 check them out. I used 2 play the heck out of civilization 1 all the way through the 4th 1. So it would b cool if I could find something like that. Thank u again James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] my track is not showing up in top speed 3
hi all i created my track to play with top speed 3 and also created the wave file to describe it i placed boath the files in the tracks folder but when i go for custom tracks the track doesnt show up i am sending the track please find if any errors are there and please improve it or help me to improve it and if the attachment doesnt come true please reply ill upload it someware thanks -- surch for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham.
Just to offer a correction, what actually happened was that since I noticed bavisoft only ever responded to people who threatened to pirate their games, I posted a topic on audiogames.net with the subject "hacked copies of chillingham and grizly gulch available free for download" and then the message actually contained a very serious enquiry as to their status, but they didn't even respond to that, and that was in 2010. For the record audiogames.net does not support posting of cracks and never will. As to bavisoft, well they're a waste of space as far as I'm concerned, I've even relabled their entries in the db as unknown license type and included notes to the effect that trying to order the games is basically throwing your money away. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] unable to run Rail Racer Demo on windows8
I thought dotnet 5 and below were compatible with railracer. you may have to load directx9 again, dotnet 1.1 may install but its not needed and you won't be able to update it at all. as a stupid bordum thing I found a way to hack the dotnet installer so it would load. but you don't need to load it really. On that note I wouldn't even bother about railracer. 1.1 is a total pile, the activation system has been changed and that system is down. worse only 1 file per unit licence and 1 machine you get another or lost it you had to buy another code another 40 bucks I think at the time because people hacked the code. Its supposed to be changed now. but still. dotnet any dotnet should be compatible with perevious versions at least I thought it would be. At 05:42 PM 4/12/2013, you wrote: Hi I managed to install dot net framework 1.1 on windows8 it didn't give any errors but after installing when I run rr I get the following error game engin.exe common language runtime debugging service application has generated a exception that cannot be handled process id 0x12904752 tread id 0xa0160 and when i press cancel to debug the application i get this error. no debugger was found the registered gid debugger is not available i will still install directx and try On 4/12/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: > hi, this is the problem. 1.1 is not designed to run on 8. in fact, if > you try installing it, it comes up with errors. > however, che is in fact upgrading it to work in windows 8 and 7. so > i'd imagine he has moved up to newer version, or perhaps even gone a > different way around it. not to sure. but i am looking forwards to > finding out, cause i miss RR. > regards > dallas > > > On 11/04/2013, Thomas Ward wrote: >> Hi Austin, >> >> Yes, you still need to install .NET 1.1 for Rail Racer, because it >> requires that specific version of the framework to run certain >> components. The reason is that .NET 2.x, 3.x, and 4.0 are not version >> 1.0 and 1.1 backwards compatible with some components. Hopefully when >> Che is done upgrading Rail Racer he will be updating to a newer .NET >> Framework. >> >> Cheers! >> >> On 4/10/13, austin pinto wrote: >>> hi i already have net frame work 3.5 includes 3.0 and 2.0 and also net >>> frame work 4.0 advansed services do i still need to install >>> netframework1.0? thanks for the links >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > -- surch for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] captcha
they wouldn't! I got in before their horrible capcha system became bad. yes its possible to complete a capcha crappy that it is. you just have to listen vary hard with headphones, the volume at max and concentrate hard. what I end up usually doing is record the capcha and then play the file back several times in winamp, filling it in that way. At 11:55 AM 4/12/2013, you wrote: I challenge any or all of them to turn their monitors off completely and see just how accessible their system is. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Trouble" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] captcha Don't count on google changing, because as far as they are concerned they already have a accessible capcha. The only way they will change is by the community coming together and proving them wrong. And you won't get help from any org on this either. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham.
what you do to make them run. At 02:34 AM 4/12/2013, you wrote: They do run on win7, with a small amount of effort. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward wrote: Thomas they don't have customer service that company is joke it really is. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] captcha
hmph I don't think much about that allan. I have latest flash and the audio never played I even uninstalled flash and cleared out all data. nasa, youtube and several other flash based sites works so its not flash. I am on areyouahuman.com and they use something based on recapture. I helped test areyouahuman.com and its easy to setup. I don't brag about it but I am part of that company in a minor role. At 04:04 AM 4/12/2013, you wrote: Hi Folks, Captchas, in a word, suck. We all know that, but I get an email newsletter called flying blind, and in it is this one link concerning blind testers for audio captchas being developed. I thought it might be nice to be proactive and help out in this capacity. The link and brief description is below, which I copied and pasted from above mentioned newsletter. 2) Researchers are looking for blind users to test some audio CAPTCHA's they think will be both effective and accessible: https://secure-hamlet-3770.herokuapp.com/experiment/ "The truth will set you free" Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] franklin Language Master.
true and to be honest the keyboards were ultra tiny but your fingers were squashed together. At 04:11 AM 4/12/2013, you wrote: If it did not meet sales expectations, I know why. I also have one that needs repair. When I called about getting it repaired several years ago, they said that the repairs, whatever they may be, would cost a flat fee of $100. The unit cost, new, was almost $500. A friend at work had one that was identical to mine. Same games, same dictionary features, almost the whole 9 yards. There were differences, though. His machine did not speak. His machine would accept cartridges to expand the dictionary features and include different games. And his machine cost $80! Wonder why they didn't sell very well? --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Eric Heil" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Cc: "Games list\" Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] franklin Language Master. Hi Nicole, You may want to try eBay for the Franklin language master. Not sure if it's available. I just have one of these many of years ago. However, mine does not work anymore. That was a nasal device. I love the games it's a shame that Franklin publishing did not continue to develop such products. Perhaps it was a novelty device developed for the visually impaired, maybe it didn't meet sales expectations. I really don't know. Sent from my iPad On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:21 PM, "Nicole white" wrote: Does anyone know where you could get the Language Mastter BEB for free? It's a talking dictionary with games and lots of other things. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] franklin Language Master.
Oh wow I have a language master se. Used to use it for school and got it for free. It was quite good in its day. even when I decided it was a junk pile since I had no more use of it my brother did use it for a time. its lost somewhere though and well. The games were not that good really. simple word games and single tone beeps. You couldn't modify them either. Those thing are like the rare sharp clocks and calculators which are lost for ever long may they live. At 12:21 PM 4/11/2013, you wrote: Does anyone know where you could get the Language Mastter BEB for free? It's a talking dictionary with games and lots of other things. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham.
aggreed with you lisa. I did play these games still have them from somewhere but they won't work on 7 and replay value is essentually 0. they have never answered mail forum posts and they were asked nicely several times. In the end ag.net even allowed cracked coppies to go over forum, and even then they didn't even respond. Why and how they can keep going when they are clearly misbehaving in the community is beyond me. Boy I'd sure like to rip em a new one but they would probably not respond. At 09:46 PM 4/11/2013, you wrote: Thomas they don't have customer service that company is joke it really is. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm sad: Chillingham. Hi Lindsay., Sad to say if we are talking Bavisoft sometime between a week and never. Their customer service is the worst of any audio game developer because they never answer their e-mail, and have to practically be threatened with a lawsuit to send the ordered materials. I would say get a refund. On 4/10/13, lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi All, My Sister-in-law bought me Chillingham from Bavisoft on CD on my birthday. She ordered it two weeks before 22 March, and it still hasn't arrived. She's entered a dispute with paypal, as it still hasn't arrived yet. Does anyone know how long it takes for stuff to come to the UK from America? I'm so excited. Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Revisiting dragon pass
Hi james. there are lots of stratogy games available, but it depends upon what you want. king of dragon pass is a bit unique since it combines aspects of strategical civilization building games with a full on rpg, there are even gamebook like events to. Unfortunately there is nothing like that available for windows or online, however there are many other stratogy games, either military ones like time of conflict, a varity of online battle ones where you fight against other players, and some specific rpg stratogy games where you engage in turn based battles, examples of this would be the smugglers series. There is even the game lunimals by aprone, an eco system stratogy game, and castaways, a pure civilization building game in which you take control of a small group of shipwrecked survivers. for more info, see the various pages on www.audiogames.net, and www.pcsgames.net. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Revisiting dragon pass
Hello Dark Thank u but I don't have a iphone yet. I want 2 buy 1 just so I can play all the games that r talked about on here l o l, but till then do u know of any turn based stradigy games. I use2 love 2 play them b4 I lost my eyesight. O if this helps any I have windows xp, 7, 8, and linnex. Thank u 4 all your input and help. James -Original Message- From: dark [mailto:d...@xgam.org] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Revisiting dragon pass Hi james. the game is for iphone. You can find it by searching for king of dragon pass in the ap store, but I'd also recommend reading the page for it on audiogames.net since there is a lot in the game, it's truly complex though everything is! accessible. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] enabling output window in mush z
hI there No the output window was not turned on by difalt 4 me etherI had 2 open it by pressing the ctrl alt o also. This may b something that a aleus will have 2 b made 4. Bfn James -Original Message- From: Richard Sherman [mailto:squir...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] enabling output window in mush z Hi John carnemolla wrote: Output functionns is enabled by default. end quote. But the output window is not. and it seems the only way to turn it on is thru pressing control alt O. Since that option might not be available, any other way to enable the output window? Shermanator --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
