Re: [Audyssey] nethack useful command
Yikes. Where can I get empire? that's a game I haven't heard of before. Is it for dos or windows console? At 02:27 AM 11/10/2016, you wrote: Wow, I've been playing nethack for years and years, and didn't know about the underscore key. Heh. I've never won a game either, but I had much better luck playing nethack on dos than any other operating system, because of the way cursor tracking and movement is done. I can still play it on linux/bsd/osx, but it's much more of a pain, since (as far as I know) it's not possible to move up/down in those screen readers and stay at the same columnof the screen. Empire is another game similar to nethack in it's movement, that uses symbols to show various game pieces and terrain features, and although I have managed to win that one here and there, it's made harder by the need to determine capital vs. lower case characters, which in itself isn't difficult, but after a while, you assume you know the screen layout, and then the computer sneaks in under your nose, because you didn't check that troop transport, and later discover it belonged to the computer instead of to you. :) I've actually considered making an audio game out of empire, it might be difficult to manage, but I think if it were done, it would make tracking enemy pieces much easier. On 11/4/2016 7:34 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: rogue; hack, and nethack are a family of top view video games written for computers during the 1980's and 1990's and updated since then. In nethack, the underscore key command is useful since on any level where you have identified a location like an altar stairs or fountain you can use the underscore or underline key command to return to those locations by keying in the symbol to move to once the underscore key is hit. If monsters are blocking you, you'll have to fight those then repeat the underscore command from your new position to get to the original desired location. I've been playing nethack since the 1990's and haven't won any of those games yet so it is not a trivial game. What usually kills me off is mass attacks anymore. I can usually get to experience level 7 before that happens these days though and the experience level is improving at least. Experience levels in nethack run from 0 to 30. Level 1 requires 16 monsters to be killed and each level after that doubles the amount of monsters to be killed. I found nethack accessible on dos computers and on unix/linux boxes playing within terminals since I learned how to interpret the symbols andI have the ascii symbols enabled when I play since the tiles don't do a thing for the screen readers I use. Since I retired, I abandoned windows since I found I couldn't do a bare metal install of it and I found it to be too unstable for my uses when I was working. -- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] xbox one
Hi, So I’ve been on this list a while. I usually just lurk, but I have a few questions about the xbox one. So it’s going to be black Friday soon. My goal is to go to the states (I’m in Canada) and buy one of the originals for cheap. And here we go with the questions. Since I can’t simply return this once I get it – it won’t be as easy as simply driving to the store and dropping it off, anyway – I’m curious if narrator only works in the US region or if I can change it to Canada, since it will still be English? If not, how will the store work? Will I still be able to add my Canadian credit card and buy games and things that way? My next question is simple – does narrator work on the setup screen? If I connect a keyboard to one of the USB ports and hit windows enter with simply a 3.5 mm pair of headphones plugged into the controller, am I going to be able to get anywhere? Hopefully I won’t need HDMI – at the moment we don’t own a tv with one. I’m also hopefully going to find a tv on sale there, too, but right now I’m going with the worst. I’m guessing if I just leave the system set to US this should work – though I’m going to assume since I’m buying it from the US the region should already be set to it. How does the first pairing of the controller work? Is it hard? Sorry if some of these questions seem silly. I’m from the pre ps3 era of video gaming, so a lot of this is completely brand new to me. Any help is so beyond appreciated at this point. Thanks! Tyler Sent from Mail for Windows 10 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] cyberassault mud remembrance day event has begun
To celebrate this Canadian holiday, we have started a week long event with flag races, bonus prizes and much, much more! Come celebrate with us! cyberassault.org port 1 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] nethack useful command
I wasn't talking about moving around in nethack, I have been playing nethack since roughly 1988, I was talking about the screen readers and their vicious habbit of going back to the start of the line when you go to the next line. In dos, I could just go into review mode, press the down arrow, and the cursor would stay where it was, so I'd know what was to the south of my player, or the north. the screen readers these days go to the start of the line, instead of staying where you are, so checking to see what's around you is problematic. Unless you want to count spaces, or something similar, it's not easy to find out what is all around you on all eight compass points. I haven't had this problem with my raspberry pi, and it's pispeak, but mac and windows screen readers both like to move to the start of the line when I move up/down, making games like nethack and empire difficult to play in a reasonable amount of time. On 11/9/2016 2:41 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: To move vertically in nethack k moves one row up and j moves one row down. Nethack usually has one accessibility configuration file in its distributions and that can start a good .nethackrc file. So long as two human or near human characters aren't on a level a search for the @ character will find where you are at. I usually get screen coordinates from the screen reader for special places on any level and store those coordinates and location description in an orgmode database as I play the game. I think once nethack is installed on a machine searching for nhaccess will find you the accessibility defaults file and that can be done with the locate command in linux easily enough. On Wed, 9 Nov 2016, Travis Siegel wrote: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 10:27:57 From: Travis Siegel Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] nethack useful command Wow, I've been playing nethack for years and years, and didn't know about the underscore key. Heh. I've never won a game either, but I had much better luck playing nethack on dos than any other operating system, because of the way cursor tracking and movement is done. I can still play it on linux/bsd/osx, but it's much more of a pain, since (as far as I know) it's not possible to move up/down in those screen readers and stay at the same columnof the screen. Empire is another game similar to nethack in it's movement, that uses symbols to show various game pieces and terrain features, and although I have managed to win that one here and there, it's made harder by the need to determine capital vs. lower case characters, which in itself isn't difficult, but after a while, you assume you know the screen layout, and then the computer sneaks in under your nose, because you didn't check that troop transport, and later discover it belonged to the computer instead of to you. :) I've actually considered making an audio game out of empire, it might be difficult to manage, but I think if it were done, it would make tracking enemy pieces much easier. On 11/4/2016 7:34 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: rogue; hack, and nethack are a family of top view video games written for computers during the 1980's and 1990's and updated since then. In nethack, the underscore key command is useful since on any level where you have identified a location like an altar stairs or fountain you can use the underscore or underline key command to return to those locations by keying in the symbol to move to once the underscore key is hit. If monsters are blocking you, you'll have to fight those then repeat the underscore command from your new position to get to the original desired location. I've been playing nethack since the 1990's and haven't won any of those games yet so it is not a trivial game. What usually kills me off is mass attacks anymore. I can usually get to experience level 7 before that happens these days though and the experience level is improving at least. Experience levels in nethack run from 0 to 30. Level 1 requires 16 monsters to be killed and each level after that doubles the amount of monsters to be killed. I found nethack accessible on dos computers and on unix/linux boxes playing within terminals since I learned how to interpret the symbols andI have the ascii symbols enabled when I play since the tiles don't do a thing for the screen readers I use. Since I retired, I abandoned windows since I found I couldn't do a bare metal install of it and I found it to be too unstable for my uses when I was working. -- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding
Re: [Audyssey] nethack useful command
To move vertically in nethack k moves one row up and j moves one row down. Nethack usually has one accessibility configuration file in its distributions and that can start a good .nethackrc file. So long as two human or near human characters aren't on a level a search for the @ character will find where you are at. I usually get screen coordinates from the screen reader for special places on any level and store those coordinates and location description in an orgmode database as I play the game. I think once nethack is installed on a machine searching for nhaccess will find you the accessibility defaults file and that can be done with the locate command in linux easily enough. On Wed, 9 Nov 2016, Travis Siegel wrote: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 10:27:57 From: Travis Siegel Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] nethack useful command Wow, I've been playing nethack for years and years, and didn't know about the underscore key. Heh. I've never won a game either, but I had much better luck playing nethack on dos than any other operating system, because of the way cursor tracking and movement is done. I can still play it on linux/bsd/osx, but it's much more of a pain, since (as far as I know) it's not possible to move up/down in those screen readers and stay at the same columnof the screen. Empire is another game similar to nethack in it's movement, that uses symbols to show various game pieces and terrain features, and although I have managed to win that one here and there, it's made harder by the need to determine capital vs. lower case characters, which in itself isn't difficult, but after a while, you assume you know the screen layout, and then the computer sneaks in under your nose, because you didn't check that troop transport, and later discover it belonged to the computer instead of to you. :) I've actually considered making an audio game out of empire, it might be difficult to manage, but I think if it were done, it would make tracking enemy pieces much easier. On 11/4/2016 7:34 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: rogue; hack, and nethack are a family of top view video games written for computers during the 1980's and 1990's and updated since then. In nethack, the underscore key command is useful since on any level where you have identified a location like an altar stairs or fountain you can use the underscore or underline key command to return to those locations by keying in the symbol to move to once the underscore key is hit. If monsters are blocking you, you'll have to fight those then repeat the underscore command from your new position to get to the original desired location. I've been playing nethack since the 1990's and haven't won any of those games yet so it is not a trivial game. What usually kills me off is mass attacks anymore. I can usually get to experience level 7 before that happens these days though and the experience level is improving at least. Experience levels in nethack run from 0 to 30. Level 1 requires 16 monsters to be killed and each level after that doubles the amount of monsters to be killed. I found nethack accessible on dos computers and on unix/linux boxes playing within terminals since I learned how to interpret the symbols andI have the ascii symbols enabled when I play since the tiles don't do a thing for the screen readers I use. Since I retired, I abandoned windows since I found I couldn't do a bare metal install of it and I found it to be too unstable for my uses when I was working. -- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://ww
Re: [Audyssey] android audio games hub update
The version for iDevices has been updated as well. If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!! -Original Message- From: Jacob Kruger Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:45 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] android audio games hub update Audio games hub is a collection of 8 different experimental arcade-style games offering both just audio, and also offering graphics alongside the audio, but, focusing on audio being what's necessary to play the games on the android platform. See they mention that they've launched a kickstarter campaign, but, either way, after the update this morning, gave it a quick run again, with two of the included games - archery, and hunting - and, either way, it seems like maybe they've cleaned up interface, or something - both games worked nicely/fine/easily, and, only thing did before anything else was go into settings, and turn down music volume, and ambient sound volume to 5 out of 10, leaving the sound effects, and voice volume set to 10, but, will, if I remember, play around with the other games included in this some more now: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.AUT.AudioGameHub&hl=en And, yes, it will tell you to turn off accessibility - as in, suspend talkback - when you launch it, and, that is necessary. Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] nethack useful command
Wow, I've been playing nethack for years and years, and didn't know about the underscore key. Heh. I've never won a game either, but I had much better luck playing nethack on dos than any other operating system, because of the way cursor tracking and movement is done. I can still play it on linux/bsd/osx, but it's much more of a pain, since (as far as I know) it's not possible to move up/down in those screen readers and stay at the same columnof the screen. Empire is another game similar to nethack in it's movement, that uses symbols to show various game pieces and terrain features, and although I have managed to win that one here and there, it's made harder by the need to determine capital vs. lower case characters, which in itself isn't difficult, but after a while, you assume you know the screen layout, and then the computer sneaks in under your nose, because you didn't check that troop transport, and later discover it belonged to the computer instead of to you. :) I've actually considered making an audio game out of empire, it might be difficult to manage, but I think if it were done, it would make tracking enemy pieces much easier. On 11/4/2016 7:34 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: rogue; hack, and nethack are a family of top view video games written for computers during the 1980's and 1990's and updated since then. In nethack, the underscore key command is useful since on any level where you have identified a location like an altar stairs or fountain you can use the underscore or underline key command to return to those locations by keying in the symbol to move to once the underscore key is hit. If monsters are blocking you, you'll have to fight those then repeat the underscore command from your new position to get to the original desired location. I've been playing nethack since the 1990's and haven't won any of those games yet so it is not a trivial game. What usually kills me off is mass attacks anymore. I can usually get to experience level 7 before that happens these days though and the experience level is improving at least. Experience levels in nethack run from 0 to 30. Level 1 requires 16 monsters to be killed and each level after that doubles the amount of monsters to be killed. I found nethack accessible on dos computers and on unix/linux boxes playing within terminals since I learned how to interpret the symbols andI have the ascii symbols enabled when I play since the tiles don't do a thing for the screen readers I use. Since I retired, I abandoned windows since I found I couldn't do a bare metal install of it and I found it to be too unstable for my uses when I was working. -- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] android audio games hub update
Coolness. And, Shaun, FWIW, I already posted the same message to what I think is the primary VI android users mailing list - eyes-free on google groups, as well as on a couple of other local VI mailing lists this side. STay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." On 2016-11-09 11:04 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote: Hi. Wow, this is good news guys keep spreading this round. If someone wants to post this at applevis then thats fine. This means the users are doing this for us and thats really cool as. I was just writing an announcement, but as users are allready posting this round, I'll just go to bed and leave it up to you. I will just leave and say that this is what we as a company expect from our users. This shows that you guys care and are interested and want us to continue. Please spread the word that we need more than 6000 dollars. Which is the minimal. On 9/11/2016 9:45 p.m., Jacob Kruger wrote: Audio games hub is a collection of 8 different experimental arcade-style games offering both just audio, and also offering graphics alongside the audio, but, focusing on audio being what's necessary to play the games on the android platform. See they mention that they've launched a kickstarter campaign, but, either way, after the update this morning, gave it a quick run again, with two of the included games - archery, and hunting - and, either way, it seems like maybe they've cleaned up interface, or something - both games worked nicely/fine/easily, and, only thing did before anything else was go into settings, and turn down music volume, and ambient sound volume to 5 out of 10, leaving the sound effects, and voice volume set to 10, but, will, if I remember, play around with the other games included in this some more now: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.AUT.AudioGameHub&hl=en And, yes, it will tell you to turn off accessibility - as in, suspend talkback - when you launch it, and, that is necessary. Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] android audio games hub update
Hi. Wow, this is good news guys keep spreading this round. If someone wants to post this at applevis then thats fine. This means the users are doing this for us and thats really cool as. I was just writing an announcement, but as users are allready posting this round, I'll just go to bed and leave it up to you. I will just leave and say that this is what we as a company expect from our users. This shows that you guys care and are interested and want us to continue. Please spread the word that we need more than 6000 dollars. Which is the minimal. On 9/11/2016 9:45 p.m., Jacob Kruger wrote: Audio games hub is a collection of 8 different experimental arcade-style games offering both just audio, and also offering graphics alongside the audio, but, focusing on audio being what's necessary to play the games on the android platform. See they mention that they've launched a kickstarter campaign, but, either way, after the update this morning, gave it a quick run again, with two of the included games - archery, and hunting - and, either way, it seems like maybe they've cleaned up interface, or something - both games worked nicely/fine/easily, and, only thing did before anything else was go into settings, and turn down music volume, and ambient sound volume to 5 out of 10, leaving the sound effects, and voice volume set to 10, but, will, if I remember, play around with the other games included in this some more now: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.AUT.AudioGameHub&hl=en And, yes, it will tell you to turn off accessibility - as in, suspend talkback - when you launch it, and, that is necessary. Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] android audio games hub update
Audio games hub is a collection of 8 different experimental arcade-style games offering both just audio, and also offering graphics alongside the audio, but, focusing on audio being what's necessary to play the games on the android platform. See they mention that they've launched a kickstarter campaign, but, either way, after the update this morning, gave it a quick run again, with two of the included games - archery, and hunting - and, either way, it seems like maybe they've cleaned up interface, or something - both games worked nicely/fine/easily, and, only thing did before anything else was go into settings, and turn down music volume, and ambient sound volume to 5 out of 10, leaving the sound effects, and voice volume set to 10, but, will, if I remember, play around with the other games included in this some more now: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.AUT.AudioGameHub&hl=en And, yes, it will tell you to turn off accessibility - as in, suspend talkback - when you launch it, and, that is necessary. Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.