Re: [Audyssey] $400 audio Brain Fitness game

2007-11-20 Thread ian and riggs
this sounds really interesting has any one accually done it on this list. if 
so and some one does get a copy it would be interesting if they could upload 
it so we can all have a go at it
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Subject: [Audyssey] $400 audio Brain Fitness game


Study: Aging Brains Can Benefit from 'Training'

By Jon Hamilton

Morning Edition, November 19, 2007·



A new study suggests that one hour a day of intensive brain exercise can
improve thinking and memory. The study  involving more than 400 adults age
65 and older  found that those who underwent training scored higher on
general memory tests.

The Posit Science Brain Fitness Program takes time and effort, and it
doesn't promise miracles.

Dr. Elizabeth Zelinski from the University of Southern California led a
study of more than 400 people 65 or older who participated in the program.

Those who completed 40 hours of Brain Fitness training performed
significantly better on memory tests than a comparison group who spent 40
hours watching educational lectures.

After training, Zelinski says, a typical 75-year-old did as well on the
tests as an untrained person 10 years younger. And the people who got
training said it improved their daily lives.

It might mean a small difference in being able to remember your grocery
list when you left your list home, Zelinski said. So, they may remember
several more items.

Scientists already know about techniques to improve specific aspects of
memory, like recalling a string of numbers. But the program appears to
bolster a much wider range of memory tasks.

The Brain Fitness program comes from Posit Science, a company whose founders
include a prominent brain researcher in California. Zelinski works as a
consultant for the company, which funded the new study.

Dr. Henry Mahncke is the vice president for research and outcomes. He says
the program takes an unusual approach -- it uses sounds to improve memory.

What it's doing is it's improving the speed and accuracy of processing in
your auditory system, Mahncke said.

Over time, people learn to identify shorter and shorter bursts of sound.
Mahnke says that helps the brain do a better job processing information from
the outside world.

But Dr. Matthew Shapiro, a neuroscientist at Mt. Sinai School of Medicine in
New York, says potential buyers of this program -- which costs nearly $400
retail -- need to be realistic.

To get any improvement, they'll have to really mobilize their effort and
their attention, Shapiro said. If they do that, they're likely to see an
improvement in their abilities, but they shouldn't expect large changes.

The new study was presented at the Gerontological Society of America Meeting
in San Francisco.



You can clikc on the Listen link to hear the sound of the game at,

http://thin.npr.org/s.php?sId=16411605rId=3x=1




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Re: [Audyssey] $400 audio Brain Fitness game

2007-11-20 Thread william lomas
hi where do we hear the sample i only find the article on the website

On 20 Nov 2007, at 07:12, ian and riggs wrote:

 this sounds really interesting has any one accually done it on this  
 list. if
 so and some one does get a copy it would be interesting if they  
 could upload
 it so we can all have a go at it
 - Original Message -
 From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:52 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] $400 audio Brain Fitness game


 Study: Aging Brains Can Benefit from 'Training'

 By Jon Hamilton

 Morning Edition, November 19, 2007·



 A new study suggests that one hour a day of intensive brain exercise  
 can
 improve thinking and memory. The study  involving more than 400  
 adults age
 65 and older  found that those who underwent training scored higher on
 general memory tests.

 The Posit Science Brain Fitness Program takes time and effort, and it
 doesn't promise miracles.

 Dr. Elizabeth Zelinski from the University of Southern California  
 led a
 study of more than 400 people 65 or older who participated in the  
 program.

 Those who completed 40 hours of Brain Fitness training performed
 significantly better on memory tests than a comparison group who  
 spent 40
 hours watching educational lectures.

 After training, Zelinski says, a typical 75-year-old did as well on  
 the
 tests as an untrained person 10 years younger. And the people who got
 training said it improved their daily lives.

 It might mean a small difference in being able to remember your  
 grocery
 list when you left your list home, Zelinski said. So, they may  
 remember
 several more items.

 Scientists already know about techniques to improve specific aspects  
 of
 memory, like recalling a string of numbers. But the program appears to
 bolster a much wider range of memory tasks.

 The Brain Fitness program comes from Posit Science, a company whose  
 founders
 include a prominent brain researcher in California. Zelinski works  
 as a
 consultant for the company, which funded the new study.

 Dr. Henry Mahncke is the vice president for research and outcomes.  
 He says
 the program takes an unusual approach -- it uses sounds to improve  
 memory.

 What it's doing is it's improving the speed and accuracy of  
 processing in
 your auditory system, Mahncke said.

 Over time, people learn to identify shorter and shorter bursts of  
 sound.
 Mahnke says that helps the brain do a better job processing  
 information from
 the outside world.

 But Dr. Matthew Shapiro, a neuroscientist at Mt. Sinai School of  
 Medicine in
 New York, says potential buyers of this program -- which costs  
 nearly $400
 retail -- need to be realistic.

 To get any improvement, they'll have to really mobilize their  
 effort and
 their attention, Shapiro said. If they do that, they're likely to  
 see an
 improvement in their abilities, but they shouldn't expect large  
 changes.

 The new study was presented at the Gerontological Society of America  
 Meeting
 in San Francisco.



 You can clikc on the Listen link to hear the sound of the game at,

 http://thin.npr.org/s.php?sId=16411605rId=3x=1




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Re: [Audyssey] $400 audio Brain Fitness game

2007-11-20 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Will,
the link to the article is at the bottom of my message and on that page is a 
listen link so you can hear the article.
While they are reading the text they also demonstrate the game or device.
 You can clikc on the Listen link to hear the sound of the game at,


http://thin.npr.org/s.php?sId=16411605rId=3x=1



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From: william lomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] $400 audio Brain Fitness game


hi where do we hear the sample i only find the article on the website

On 20 Nov 2007, at 07:12, ian and riggs wrote:

 this sounds really interesting has any one accually done it on this
 list. if
 so and some one does get a copy it would be interesting if they
 could upload
 it so we can all have a go at it
 - Original Message -
 From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:52 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] $400 audio Brain Fitness game


 Study: Aging Brains Can Benefit from 'Training'

 By Jon Hamilton

 Morning Edition, November 19, 2007·



 A new study suggests that one hour a day of intensive brain exercise
 can
 improve thinking and memory. The study  involving more than 400
 adults age
 65 and older  found that those who underwent training scored higher on
 general memory tests.

 The Posit Science Brain Fitness Program takes time and effort, and it
 doesn't promise miracles.

 Dr. Elizabeth Zelinski from the University of Southern California
 led a
 study of more than 400 people 65 or older who participated in the
 program.

 Those who completed 40 hours of Brain Fitness training performed
 significantly better on memory tests than a comparison group who
 spent 40
 hours watching educational lectures.

 After training, Zelinski says, a typical 75-year-old did as well on
 the
 tests as an untrained person 10 years younger. And the people who got
 training said it improved their daily lives.

 It might mean a small difference in being able to remember your
 grocery
 list when you left your list home, Zelinski said. So, they may
 remember
 several more items.

 Scientists already know about techniques to improve specific aspects
 of
 memory, like recalling a string of numbers. But the program appears to
 bolster a much wider range of memory tasks.

 The Brain Fitness program comes from Posit Science, a company whose
 founders
 include a prominent brain researcher in California. Zelinski works
 as a
 consultant for the company, which funded the new study.

 Dr. Henry Mahncke is the vice president for research and outcomes.
 He says
 the program takes an unusual approach -- it uses sounds to improve
 memory.

 What it's doing is it's improving the speed and accuracy of
 processing in
 your auditory system, Mahncke said.

 Over time, people learn to identify shorter and shorter bursts of
 sound.
 Mahnke says that helps the brain do a better job processing
 information from
 the outside world.

 But Dr. Matthew Shapiro, a neuroscientist at Mt. Sinai School of
 Medicine in
 New York, says potential buyers of this program -- which costs
 nearly $400
 retail -- need to be realistic.

 To get any improvement, they'll have to really mobilize their
 effort and
 their attention, Shapiro said. If they do that, they're likely to
 see an
 improvement in their abilities, but they shouldn't expect large
 changes.

 The new study was presented at the Gerontological Society of America
 Meeting
 in San Francisco.



 You can clikc on the Listen link to hear the sound of the game at,

 http://thin.npr.org/s.php?sId=16411605rId=3x=1




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Re: [Audyssey] $400 audio Brain Fitness game

2007-11-20 Thread Kuvvosh Suggs
It's odd, for one this is some ways true in research and practical
situation for blind people.

I've noticed a lot of changes when I went totally blind 2 and half years
ago.  That I remember a lot more things then when I was able to see.

But, for sighted people to be able to use such program, would not see any
kind of improvement.  For one let just say the 75 year old was just simply
more experance in what ever test they gave, then the 65 year old person.
That means the test is  inaccuracte.


Kuvvosh.


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[Audyssey] $400 audio Brain Fitness game

2007-11-19 Thread Phil Vlasak
Study: Aging Brains Can Benefit from 'Training'

By Jon Hamilton

Morning Edition, November 19, 2007·



A new study suggests that one hour a day of intensive brain exercise can 
improve thinking and memory. The study  involving more than 400 adults age 
65 and older  found that those who underwent training scored higher on 
general memory tests.

The Posit Science Brain Fitness Program takes time and effort, and it 
doesn't promise miracles.

Dr. Elizabeth Zelinski from the University of Southern California led a 
study of more than 400 people 65 or older who participated in the program.

Those who completed 40 hours of Brain Fitness training performed 
significantly better on memory tests than a comparison group who spent 40 
hours watching educational lectures.

After training, Zelinski says, a typical 75-year-old did as well on the 
tests as an untrained person 10 years younger. And the people who got 
training said it improved their daily lives.

It might mean a small difference in being able to remember your grocery 
list when you left your list home, Zelinski said. So, they may remember 
several more items.

Scientists already know about techniques to improve specific aspects of 
memory, like recalling a string of numbers. But the program appears to 
bolster a much wider range of memory tasks.

The Brain Fitness program comes from Posit Science, a company whose founders 
include a prominent brain researcher in California. Zelinski works as a 
consultant for the company, which funded the new study.

Dr. Henry Mahncke is the vice president for research and outcomes. He says 
the program takes an unusual approach -- it uses sounds to improve memory.

What it's doing is it's improving the speed and accuracy of processing in 
your auditory system, Mahncke said.

Over time, people learn to identify shorter and shorter bursts of sound. 
Mahnke says that helps the brain do a better job processing information from 
the outside world.

But Dr. Matthew Shapiro, a neuroscientist at Mt. Sinai School of Medicine in 
New York, says potential buyers of this program -- which costs nearly $400 
retail -- need to be realistic.

To get any improvement, they'll have to really mobilize their effort and 
their attention, Shapiro said. If they do that, they're likely to see an 
improvement in their abilities, but they shouldn't expect large changes.

The new study was presented at the Gerontological Society of America Meeting 
in San Francisco.



You can clikc on the Listen link to hear the sound of the game at,

http://thin.npr.org/s.php?sId=16411605rId=3x=1




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