Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer.
that's another reason I look forward to jason including larger party size in the game, sinse then he can balance things accordingly, scoring and hopefully enemy party size included. Personally, I'd rather play more characters facing more enemies than just more characters facing the same amount and making the game easier. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, There is a few problems with having an unlimited party. The most significant is that you can only have up to 99 items in your inventory. So if you have too many characters, you cannot put enough armor on them, or give them enough weapons to wield. And yet still have potions,scrolls, and other necessary items with you. Plus, if you play in morlal mode, you will never make it on the top 50 scoreboard. In order to make most of these cheats work, you would probably be playing in normal mode. Lasstly, these cheats just add a different dimention to the game. But this only lessens the difficulty. so to play the game in which it was created offers the best game play. Rich - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 10:04 PM Hi, While I must agree that going with the flow, so to speak, is an ok strategy, there are limit. For instance I do not think there should be a way to get an unlimited party cheat. Can you imagine how many people will just use that all the time? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, While I must agree that going with the flow, so to speak, is an ok strategy, there are limit. For instance I do not think there should be a way to get an unlimited party cheat. Can you imagine how many people will just use that all the time? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Richard Sherman Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 7:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. Hi, One of the cheats found was found by Allan Thompson. One other by someone named Bryant. Then there were two found by a Jason Smith. No relation to Jason Allan. HTH. Rich - Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 6:27 AM all them were signed jason. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:25 PM I don't believe that's accurate, I believe it was enterprising players who figured out how to game the system. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer.
Hi, One of the cheats found was found by Allan Thompson. One other by someone named Bryant. Then there were two found by a Jason Smith. No relation to Jason Allan. HTH. Rich - Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 6:27 AM all them were signed jason. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:25 PM I don't believe that's accurate, I believe it was enterprising players who figured out how to game the system. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer.
all them were signed jason. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. I don't believe that's accurate, I believe it was enterprising players who figured out how to game the system. Chris -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. by my understanding, he posted them in the first place. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer.
Actually shane, it was various members of the entombed list who worked out the cheats, Jason is just pretty good sinse he actually approves of them and wants to expand the game to include options previously found by cheating such as a larger party size, rather than getting angry about it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shane Lowe" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. by my understanding, he posted them in the first place. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. Dark wrote: Myself, I feel that monkeying about with save files and the like is sort of more cheating than actually using a cheat. There's no real reason why, just personal thought really, which is why I'd like to see Jason add these as some propper options to the game. I agree completely, but the point of my message was to point out what Jason Allen's reaction to the discussions shows about his dedication to creating something that meets his customers' needs, rather than discussing the cheats themselves. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Absolutely. I'm sure there are developers who, when they found people were using an in game glitch would rather modify the game not to have it because it goes against their intention than try to actually make it official, but Jason has always been fantastic about listening to user feedback regarding Entombed. Though he clearly has always had his own ideas for the game, if someone comes up with an idea he hasn't had he's willing to include it. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. Dark wrote: Myself, I feel that monkeying about with save files and the like is sort of more cheating than actually using a cheat. There's no real reason why, just personal thought really, which is why I'd like to see Jason add these as some propper options to the game. I agree completely, but the point of my message was to point out what Jason Allen's reaction to the discussions shows about his dedication to creating something that meets his customers' needs, rather than discussing the cheats themselves. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer.
I don't believe that's accurate, I believe it was enterprising players who figured out how to game the system. Chris -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. by my understanding, he posted them in the first place. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer.
by my understanding, he posted them in the first place. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. Dark wrote: Myself, I feel that monkeying about with save files and the like is sort of more cheating than actually using a cheat. There's no real reason why, just personal thought really, which is why I'd like to see Jason add these as some propper options to the game. I agree completely, but the point of my message was to point out what Jason Allen's reaction to the discussions shows about his dedication to creating something that meets his customers' needs, rather than discussing the cheats themselves. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer.
Dark wrote: Myself, I feel that monkeying about with save files and the like is sort of more cheating than actually using a cheat. There's no real reason why, just personal thought really, which is why I'd like to see Jason add these as some propper options to the game. I agree completely, but the point of my message was to point out what Jason Allen's reaction to the discussions shows about his dedication to creating something that meets his customers' needs, rather than discussing the cheats themselves. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, To subscribe to the entombed discussion group, send a blank email to entombedgame+subscr...@googlegroups.com or you can check out the group at https://groups.google.com/group/entombedgame?hl=en&lnk and subscribe there. HTH. Rich --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Can you direct me to that list? - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. These aren't cheats that are purchasable. For exhaustive details, I would subscribe to the Entombed-specific mailing list. I'm not sure if the archives are searchable, but if not, someone there will gladly assist you. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Duff Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:41 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. I too would like them. I bought the game and paid for the cheats some time back but have forgotten what they are... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 4:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. May I ask for these cheats? I need some replayability! email me at shanel...@insightbb.com If you don't want to post them on-list. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. Over on the Entombed list, there has been a wave of discussions concerning different ways to "cheat" in playing Entombed to increase your party size, bring items from game into another, etc. Now mind you, there's a paid-for cheat that does some of these things, but clever players have figured out different ways to spoof the game. Now, I have used these cheats to increase the replay value of the game, to experiment with character combinations I might not choose in the game as intended. I have enjoyed the results and they have added significantly to the replay value of Entombed while we wait for upgrades. This morning, I read a message from the game developer Jason Allen. I expected it to be at best luke-warm on the subject. Instead he says basically that it's awesome people have been finding ways around the limits imposed on the game and that he's considering adding capabilities into the actual game to mimic some of the cheats. Here's a developer who is taking a player-driven phenomenon, recognizing the underlying message of directions of development we'd like to see, and embracing it. To me, this is a mark of excellence and flexibility. I tell this story not to chastise any developers, but to provide positive feedback in the larger blind gaming community for this kind of creative thinking and relationship developed between game creators and their fans. This earns loyalty, trust and respect, even when the rest of life means that a developer has no time to devote to the game we're playing and breathlessly awaiting new developments in. Anyone considering becoming a game developer (which I am) would do well to look at this example of engagement and take its lessons to heart. Thank you and I'm off the soap box now. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6064 (20110422) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6064 (20110422) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or con
Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer.
Yes, the archives are searchable, see https://groups.google.com/group/entombedgame?hl=en&lnk for details (not sure if you need to be a member of the list to check those). Myself, I feel that monkeying about with save files and the like is sort of more cheating than actually using a cheat. There's no real reason why, just personal thought really, which is why I'd like to see Jason add these as some propper options to the game. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. These aren't cheats that are purchasable. For exhaustive details, I would subscribe to the Entombed-specific mailing list. I'm not sure if the archives are searchable, but if not, someone there will gladly assist you. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Duff Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:41 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. I too would like them. I bought the game and paid for the cheats some time back but have forgotten what they are... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 4:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. May I ask for these cheats? I need some replayability! email me at shanel...@insightbb.com If you don't want to post them on-list. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. Over on the Entombed list, there has been a wave of discussions concerning different ways to "cheat" in playing Entombed to increase your party size, bring items from game into another, etc. Now mind you, there's a paid-for cheat that does some of these things, but clever players have figured out different ways to spoof the game. Now, I have used these cheats to increase the replay value of the game, to experiment with character combinations I might not choose in the game as intended. I have enjoyed the results and they have added significantly to the replay value of Entombed while we wait for upgrades. This morning, I read a message from the game developer Jason Allen. I expected it to be at best luke-warm on the subject. Instead he says basically that it's awesome people have been finding ways around the limits imposed on the game and that he's considering adding capabilities into the actual game to mimic some of the cheats. Here's a developer who is taking a player-driven phenomenon, recognizing the underlying message of directions of development we'd like to see, and embracing it. To me, this is a mark of excellence and flexibility. I tell this story not to chastise any developers, but to provide positive feedback in the larger blind gaming community for this kind of creative thinking and relationship developed between game creators and their fans. This earns loyalty, trust and respect, even when the rest of life means that a developer has no time to devote to the game we're playing and breathlessly awaiting new developments in. Anyone considering becoming a game developer (which I am) would do well to look at this example of engagement and take its lessons to heart. Thank you and I'm off the soap box now. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6064 (20110422) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6064 (20110422) information _ This message was checke
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These aren't cheats that are purchasable. For exhaustive details, I would subscribe to the Entombed-specific mailing list. I'm not sure if the archives are searchable, but if not, someone there will gladly assist you. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Duff Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:41 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. I too would like them. I bought the game and paid for the cheats some time back but have forgotten what they are... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 4:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. May I ask for these cheats? I need some replayability! email me at shanel...@insightbb.com If you don't want to post them on-list. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. > Over on the Entombed list, there has been a wave of discussions concerning > different ways to "cheat" in playing Entombed to increase your party size, > bring items from game into another, etc. Now mind you, there's a paid-for > cheat that does some of these things, but clever players have figured out > different ways to spoof the game. > > > > Now, I have used these cheats to increase the replay value of the game, to > experiment with character combinations I might not choose in the game as > intended. I have enjoyed the results and they have added significantly to > the replay value of Entombed while we wait for upgrades. > > > > This morning, I read a message from the game developer Jason Allen. I > expected it to be at best luke-warm on the subject. Instead he says > basically that it's awesome people have been finding ways around the > limits > imposed on the game and that he's considering adding capabilities into the > actual game to mimic some of the cheats. Here's a developer who is taking > a > player-driven phenomenon, recognizing the underlying message of directions > of development we'd like to see, and embracing it. To me, this is a mark > of > excellence and flexibility. > > > > I tell this story not to chastise any developers, but to provide positive > feedback in the larger blind gaming community for this kind of creative > thinking and relationship developed between game creators and their fans. > This earns loyalty, trust and respect, even when the rest of life means > that > a developer has no time to devote to the game we're playing and > breathlessly > awaiting new developments in. Anyone considering becoming a game > developer > (which I am) would do well to look at this example of engagement and take > its lessons to heart. > > > > Thank you and I'm off the soap box now. > > > >Chris Bartlett > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6064 (20110422) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6064 (20110422) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer.
I too would like them. I bought the game and paid for the cheats some time back but have forgotten what they are... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 4:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. May I ask for these cheats? I need some replayability! email me at shanel...@insightbb.com If you don't want to post them on-list. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. > Over on the Entombed list, there has been a wave of discussions concerning > different ways to "cheat" in playing Entombed to increase your party size, > bring items from game into another, etc. Now mind you, there's a paid-for > cheat that does some of these things, but clever players have figured out > different ways to spoof the game. > > > > Now, I have used these cheats to increase the replay value of the game, to > experiment with character combinations I might not choose in the game as > intended. I have enjoyed the results and they have added significantly to > the replay value of Entombed while we wait for upgrades. > > > > This morning, I read a message from the game developer Jason Allen. I > expected it to be at best luke-warm on the subject. Instead he says > basically that it's awesome people have been finding ways around the > limits > imposed on the game and that he's considering adding capabilities into the > actual game to mimic some of the cheats. Here's a developer who is taking > a > player-driven phenomenon, recognizing the underlying message of directions > of development we'd like to see, and embracing it. To me, this is a mark > of > excellence and flexibility. > > > > I tell this story not to chastise any developers, but to provide positive > feedback in the larger blind gaming community for this kind of creative > thinking and relationship developed between game creators and their fans. > This earns loyalty, trust and respect, even when the rest of life means > that > a developer has no time to devote to the game we're playing and > breathlessly > awaiting new developments in. Anyone considering becoming a game > developer > (which I am) would do well to look at this example of engagement and take > its lessons to heart. > > > > Thank you and I'm off the soap box now. > > > >Chris Bartlett > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6064 (20110422) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6064 (20110422) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer.
May I ask for these cheats? I need some replayability! email me at shanel...@insightbb.com If you don't want to post them on-list. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Bartlett" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer. Over on the Entombed list, there has been a wave of discussions concerning different ways to "cheat" in playing Entombed to increase your party size, bring items from game into another, etc. Now mind you, there's a paid-for cheat that does some of these things, but clever players have figured out different ways to spoof the game. Now, I have used these cheats to increase the replay value of the game, to experiment with character combinations I might not choose in the game as intended. I have enjoyed the results and they have added significantly to the replay value of Entombed while we wait for upgrades. This morning, I read a message from the game developer Jason Allen. I expected it to be at best luke-warm on the subject. Instead he says basically that it's awesome people have been finding ways around the limits imposed on the game and that he's considering adding capabilities into the actual game to mimic some of the cheats. Here's a developer who is taking a player-driven phenomenon, recognizing the underlying message of directions of development we'd like to see, and embracing it. To me, this is a mark of excellence and flexibility. I tell this story not to chastise any developers, but to provide positive feedback in the larger blind gaming community for this kind of creative thinking and relationship developed between game creators and their fans. This earns loyalty, trust and respect, even when the rest of life means that a developer has no time to devote to the game we're playing and breathlessly awaiting new developments in. Anyone considering becoming a game developer (which I am) would do well to look at this example of engagement and take its lessons to heart. Thank you and I'm off the soap box now. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] A mark of excellence in a developer.
Over on the Entombed list, there has been a wave of discussions concerning different ways to "cheat" in playing Entombed to increase your party size, bring items from game into another, etc. Now mind you, there's a paid-for cheat that does some of these things, but clever players have figured out different ways to spoof the game. Now, I have used these cheats to increase the replay value of the game, to experiment with character combinations I might not choose in the game as intended. I have enjoyed the results and they have added significantly to the replay value of Entombed while we wait for upgrades. This morning, I read a message from the game developer Jason Allen. I expected it to be at best luke-warm on the subject. Instead he says basically that it's awesome people have been finding ways around the limits imposed on the game and that he's considering adding capabilities into the actual game to mimic some of the cheats. Here's a developer who is taking a player-driven phenomenon, recognizing the underlying message of directions of development we'd like to see, and embracing it. To me, this is a mark of excellence and flexibility. I tell this story not to chastise any developers, but to provide positive feedback in the larger blind gaming community for this kind of creative thinking and relationship developed between game creators and their fans. This earns loyalty, trust and respect, even when the rest of life means that a developer has no time to devote to the game we're playing and breathlessly awaiting new developments in. Anyone considering becoming a game developer (which I am) would do well to look at this example of engagement and take its lessons to heart. Thank you and I'm off the soap box now. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
