Re: [Audyssey] Building gaming pcs
Hi Thomas, The thing is, if I were to try to build a computer, for one thing it would never ever get all put together. And if somehow it did, I'm sure that it would go up in smoke the first time that I plugged it in. And if the smoke thing didn't happen I am sure that it would never run properly. Not to mention that I do not know enough about parts to order ones that would be compatible and function well together. So I must be resigned to buying commercially built machines such as from Dell. But hey as I said, I have been nothing but happy with the two that I have bought from them so far. BFN Jim Computers run on smoke. Yep, that's why that if you see all of the smoke coming out of your computer it ain't gonna run no more. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Building gaming pcs
Hi Shaun, Yes, there is a bunch of software on both of my Dell computers that I will never use. Don't know about removing it without having to reformatting the drive though. I just have left it all alone. I do not however find either of my Dell computers to be noisy and neither of them has ever had anything break or go bad on them at all. So I also would not know about calling Dell tech support or anything like that. BFN - Original Message - I have heard bad things about del. Ie support software and other baggage added to the system, call centre support and not good support, the fact you can't remove software without reformatting, that they are noisy and break and are not the system you would want on a network and that they have issues, maybe they have improved. Jim On the chest of a barmaid at Yail Were tattooed the prices of ail. And on her behind For the sake of the blind. Was the same information in Braille! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Building gaming pcs
looks like del have improved then. Dels are cheaper than normal computers. On a side note I talked with my dad last night. We have the ways, software and such to keep reconstructing our pcs at least desktops when the need arrises. So unless my laptop dies like dies and its to hard to replace the component or same with the desktop, or something major happens upgrading at least for now is not what I will be doing. There are various supports to load for various things, ie things like ms office 2007 compatibility pack, which means all the converters and support files for 2007. This means that stuff like odf converters I have work, but means that I don't need to upgrade from office 03. Ofcause at some point in the future something external to this place may change forcing an upgrade. However until it does I suspect I will be having xp for a while yet. There is no reason to upgrade as far as I can see. Sure, there is more security, and more features like speech recognition, however except that I see no real gain in upgrading just now if at all. I have just got the realspeak solo voices from nextup and well thats about the end of upgrades for the month. At 12:25 a.m. 28/02/2007, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Yes, there is a bunch of software on both of my Dell computers that I will never use. Don't know about removing it without having to reformatting the drive though. I just have left it all alone. I do not however find either of my Dell computers to be noisy and neither of them has ever had anything break or go bad on them at all. So I also would not know about calling Dell tech support or anything like that. BFN - Original Message - I have heard bad things about del. Ie support software and other baggage added to the system, call centre support and not good support, the fact you can't remove software without reformatting, that they are noisy and break and are not the system you would want on a network and that they have issues, maybe they have improved. Jim On the chest of a barmaid at Yail Were tattooed the prices of ail. And on her behind For the sake of the blind. Was the same information in Braille! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Jim and Che, I know that Del offers a build or pick your own PC option, but when you get a really good look under the hood you still find areas that Del will go really cheap on even though you are picking out your own system specs. just the nature of a major manufacturer doing it rather than yourself. Even the build your own option is there if you specify say a 120 GB hard drive unless you give them name make and mottle they will put in whatever they have in stock. They are for the person wants a computer built for them, but isn't to technical to give them a 5 page tech sheet of every chip, make, and mottle to go into the box. I think Del would come to hate me as I would be telling them what to put in it and how to make it. Grin One personal example with dealing with the Del build your own optional computers I had to work on a computer. When I got there I found Del had put the wrong fan in the system for the processor. As a result the processor was over heating was burning itself up. Ordering and replacing the processor fan with a bigger and better known name brand one fixed the problem. This was the fault of Del, and I charged allot less then Del were likely to just to fix their own screw up. As for Del's tech support since being outsourced to India I have heard nothing but complaints about them. I haven't delt with them directly myself, but from what I have heard they usually don't know their rear from a hole in the ground. That is if you and they can communicate without language issues coming up. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Well, like I said before, I am on my fifth Dell over the course of the last 12 years, and that is basically 12 years of at least one Dell computer running continuously for over a decade with no problems. Additionally, most of my family members buy Dell based on my suggestion and none of them have had any problems either. I have the technical know how and product knowledge to give them specs on all my major components, but even the family members that don't do this have no trouble. Jim and I have testified to the quality of the Dell systems, but unless I am mistaken, no one on list has told of any serious issue with a Dell computer. I hear of power supply and hard drive failures a good bit on various lists, and although I am sure at least a few of these are probably Dell, I do not remember anyone mentioning a Dell in these failure reports, and in fact most of the time it is either a home built computer or a discount cheapie afflicted with these problems. I think the bottom line here is if you are looking for a very solid and reliable system for just a bit more money than you might pay elsewhere, you will have a hard time beating Dells product. At any rate, this has only a tenuous grip on gaming, and I think both sides of the issue have been aired, so why don't we end this topic, eh? Later, Che ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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How do I go about learning to build computers? My machine is 5 years old and the hard drive is starting to fail. I've been thinking about rebuilding it from the case up. Thanks in advance. - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Building gaming pcs Well, like I said before, I am on my fifth Dell over the course of the last 12 years, and that is basically 12 years of at least one Dell computer running continuously for over a decade with no problems. Additionally, most of my family members buy Dell based on my suggestion and none of them have had any problems either. I have the technical know how and product knowledge to give them specs on all my major components, but even the family members that don't do this have no trouble. Jim and I have testified to the quality of the Dell systems, but unless I am mistaken, no one on list has told of any serious issue with a Dell computer. I hear of power supply and hard drive failures a good bit on various lists, and although I am sure at least a few of these are probably Dell, I do not remember anyone mentioning a Dell in these failure reports, and in fact most of the time it is either a home built computer or a discount cheapie afflicted with these problems. I think the bottom line here is if you are looking for a very solid and reliable system for just a bit more money than you might pay elsewhere, you will have a hard time beating Dells product. At any rate, this has only a tenuous grip on gaming, and I think both sides of the issue have been aired, so why don't we end this topic, eh? Later, Che ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. __ NOD32 2083 (20070227) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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I'd be interested in this to. At 10:30 a.m. 28/02/2007, you wrote: How do I go about learning to build computers? My machine is 5 years old and the hard drive is starting to fail. I've been thinking about rebuilding it from the case up. Thanks in advance. - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Building gaming pcs Well, like I said before, I am on my fifth Dell over the course of the last 12 years, and that is basically 12 years of at least one Dell computer running continuously for over a decade with no problems. Additionally, most of my family members buy Dell based on my suggestion and none of them have had any problems either. I have the technical know how and product knowledge to give them specs on all my major components, but even the family members that don't do this have no trouble. Jim and I have testified to the quality of the Dell systems, but unless I am mistaken, no one on list has told of any serious issue with a Dell computer. I hear of power supply and hard drive failures a good bit on various lists, and although I am sure at least a few of these are probably Dell, I do not remember anyone mentioning a Dell in these failure reports, and in fact most of the time it is either a home built computer or a discount cheapie afflicted with these problems. I think the bottom line here is if you are looking for a very solid and reliable system for just a bit more money than you might pay elsewhere, you will have a hard time beating Dells product. At any rate, this has only a tenuous grip on gaming, and I think both sides of the issue have been aired, so why don't we end this topic, eh? Later, Che ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. __ NOD32 2083 (20070227) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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thats what I have heard about del also. Its the reason why I avoid them. At 07:13 a.m. 28/02/2007, you wrote: Hi Jim and Che, I know that Del offers a build or pick your own PC option, but when you get a really good look under the hood you still find areas that Del will go really cheap on even though you are picking out your own system specs. just the nature of a major manufacturer doing it rather than yourself. Even the build your own option is there if you specify say a 120 GB hard drive unless you give them name make and mottle they will put in whatever they have in stock. They are for the person wants a computer built for them, but isn't to technical to give them a 5 page tech sheet of every chip, make, and mottle to go into the box. I think Del would come to hate me as I would be telling them what to put in it and how to make it. Grin One personal example with dealing with the Del build your own optional computers I had to work on a computer. When I got there I found Del had put the wrong fan in the system for the processor. As a result the processor was over heating was burning itself up. Ordering and replacing the processor fan with a bigger and better known name brand one fixed the problem. This was the fault of Del, and I charged allot less then Del were likely to just to fix their own screw up. As for Del's tech support since being outsourced to India I have heard nothing but complaints about them. I haven't delt with them directly myself, but from what I have heard they usually don't know their rear from a hole in the ground. That is if you and they can communicate without language issues coming up. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi, I have a dell and had it for 4 years now and no problems. My wife has one too and has no problems but I want to get her more ram eventually. Josh ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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I have heard bad things about del. Ie support software and other baggage added to the system, call centre support and not good support, the fact you can't remove software without reformatting, that they are noisy and break and are not the system you would want on a network and that they have issues, maybe they have improved. At 06:54 p.m. 26/02/2007, you wrote: My last 5 systems have ben Dells including desktops and laptops. I have had not one single problem with any of these systems, and I am able to spec them out with a Dell representative to get the components I want, for instance I got a gig of ram, an Audygy 2 audio card with a Raid hard drive system on my last desktop at a very good price. Before going to Dell, I used to build my own systems as well, and while you do save a few bucks, I find the Dell systems have performed better and with less incident with very high quality components, and I would reccomend them to anyone looking to buy a system with the minimum of fuss. I would at the same time highly reccomend not buying a system at Wal Mart or CostCo or wherever as their prices are low for a reason they use cheap components and cut corners at every opportunity, as friends of mine can attest to who have had nothing but trouble with their Wal Mart junk. The other two big players out there are Hewlett packard and Gateway, I think HP has a good product, but Gateway has been notorious for having power supply problems, but I haven't checked into that in the past few years. Any way you go these days though, you are going to get a screaming fast computer for a very reasonable price, it is hard to go wrong no matter what route you choose, even the Wal Mart crap is fairly reliable. Rock. Che - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Building gaming pcs was Important notice. Hi Jim, I've generally found custom building your own pc, especially a gaming pc, is much more reliable, and is more advanced than any store baught solution manufactured off an assembly line from Del, Compaq, HP, etc... You litterally get to choose every item that goes in to the computer motherboard, processor, sound card, hard drive, etc.. You can pay as much or as little as you wish. For example, the Maxtor hard drives are usually cheaper than Quantum and Western Digital, and sometimes show up in Wal-Mart e-machines. Well, I happen to know from personal experience the Maxtor hard drives have a very high failior rate where as Western Digital has been very very reliable. Another area that really matters to us is the quality of sound. Especially, when playing environmentally ritch games like Shades of Doom. Your typical Gateway or Del computer gives you an AC-97 chipset. Ok, for most users, but are crap for games. Instead of going that route you can just pay the bucks and have an Audegy or X-Fi sound card which produces extremely ritch audio. Finally, if you become a computer hobbiest, home builder, etc you can get discounts on software which allows you to upgrade faster than the general public. Me upgrading one of my systems to Vista this early. It is this ability to pick and choose everything that makes a custom build system much more powerful in the long run. The person who knows about building computers can often pick and choose higher quality materials which ends up with a more solid and robust system. Having been building systems for myself and others for the passed 10 years one thing you get to know is different manufacturers products, and can actually bench test them side by side. For example, AMD processors are generally pretty good, but I think the Intel Pentium sometimes does a bit of a better job, but at a much higher price. However, if cash is tight the little bit of edge from the Pentium isn't worth it. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, That is cool that you can build your own computer and get a discount on the price of the OEM software. I have never built a computer. Took one apart once though. grin My brother used to build computers for me. The dos computer was good for eight years. The windows only two. I have been very happy with both of my Dell computers. I have never even broken the seal on either of them. Just plug in the Triple Talk USB synthesizer, joystick or external hard drive and away I go. No need to see what's inside. grin ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo
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Well I have up to around 3 years ago got prebuilt store systems. Laptops excluded the first of these went grate. The second was a nightmare. The company we got it from was going bust. You can probably guess why. In the first year well 6 months to a year most of the components failed. Within 2 days hard disks, cases, and other things failed, with in a year the motherboard, fan, hard disks, power supply, sound card, video card and cd rom failed. Pluss when the sound card failed the cd rom that was connected to it failed. The first time we got the system to the repair shop, the tech reformatted the system, and gave it to us with no os or data on it. The second time they did this and charged for transfer and backup. After that my dad and I spent over 2000 rebuilding the system into working order. Its never been right. My grandpa has it, but it doesn't support usb right, crashes loads has speaker issues. The next system was still store built. Its still ok, crashed loads on win98, but now on xp its good. 2 years ago we got a system built for us. In the last 2-4 years we have had it I have never had to reformat it. At points its got close but I never have mentioned reformat to its face. Its got a ghost image for restores. THe only 2 problems occured during production and testing which were quickly fixed by the pc builder, we used, one of our friends as it happens. For some strange reason the video streams through windows media player and quicktime do not run however thats about the only bad thing. The only reason I don't reformat is that its the main server with all my brothers stuff on it. It would take to long to reload and besides it seems okish. Is there anything like a custom laptop. At 04:38 p.m. 26/02/2007, you wrote: Hi Jim, I've generally found custom building your own pc, especially a gaming pc, is much more reliable, and is more advanced than any store baught solution manufactured off an assembly line from Del, Compaq, HP, etc... You litterally get to choose every item that goes in to the computer motherboard, processor, sound card, hard drive, etc.. You can pay as much or as little as you wish. For example, the Maxtor hard drives are usually cheaper than Quantum and Western Digital, and sometimes show up in Wal-Mart e-machines. Well, I happen to know from personal experience the Maxtor hard drives have a very high failior rate where as Western Digital has been very very reliable. Another area that really matters to us is the quality of sound. Especially, when playing environmentally ritch games like Shades of Doom. Your typical Gateway or Del computer gives you an AC-97 chipset. Ok, for most users, but are crap for games. Instead of going that route you can just pay the bucks and have an Audegy or X-Fi sound card which produces extremely ritch audio. Finally, if you become a computer hobbiest, home builder, etc you can get discounts on software which allows you to upgrade faster than the general public. Me upgrading one of my systems to Vista this early. It is this ability to pick and choose everything that makes a custom build system much more powerful in the long run. The person who knows about building computers can often pick and choose higher quality materials which ends up with a more solid and robust system. Having been building systems for myself and others for the passed 10 years one thing you get to know is different manufacturers products, and can actually bench test them side by side. For example, AMD processors are generally pretty good, but I think the Intel Pentium sometimes does a bit of a better job, but at a much higher price. However, if cash is tight the little bit of edge from the Pentium isn't worth it. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, That is cool that you can build your own computer and get a discount on the price of the OEM software. I have never built a computer. Took one apart once though. grin My brother used to build computers for me. The dos computer was good for eight years. The windows only two. I have been very happy with both of my Dell computers. I have never even broken the seal on either of them. Just plug in the Triple Talk USB synthesizer, joystick or external hard drive and away I go. No need to see what's inside. grin ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Jim, I've generally found custom building your own pc, especially a gaming pc, is much more reliable, and is more advanced than any store baught solution manufactured off an assembly line from Del, Compaq, HP, etc... You litterally get to choose every item that goes in to the computer motherboard, processor, sound card, hard drive, etc.. You can pay as much or as little as you wish. For example, the Maxtor hard drives are usually cheaper than Quantum and Western Digital, and sometimes show up in Wal-Mart e-machines. Well, I happen to know from personal experience the Maxtor hard drives have a very high failior rate where as Western Digital has been very very reliable. Another area that really matters to us is the quality of sound. Especially, when playing environmentally ritch games like Shades of Doom. Your typical Gateway or Del computer gives you an AC-97 chipset. Ok, for most users, but are crap for games. Instead of going that route you can just pay the bucks and have an Audegy or X-Fi sound card which produces extremely ritch audio. Finally, if you become a computer hobbiest, home builder, etc you can get discounts on software which allows you to upgrade faster than the general public. Me upgrading one of my systems to Vista this early. It is this ability to pick and choose everything that makes a custom build system much more powerful in the long run. The person who knows about building computers can often pick and choose higher quality materials which ends up with a more solid and robust system. Having been building systems for myself and others for the passed 10 years one thing you get to know is different manufacturers products, and can actually bench test them side by side. For example, AMD processors are generally pretty good, but I think the Intel Pentium sometimes does a bit of a better job, but at a much higher price. However, if cash is tight the little bit of edge from the Pentium isn't worth it. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, That is cool that you can build your own computer and get a discount on the price of the OEM software. I have never built a computer. Took one apart once though. grin My brother used to build computers for me. The dos computer was good for eight years. The windows only two. I have been very happy with both of my Dell computers. I have never even broken the seal on either of them. Just plug in the Triple Talk USB synthesizer, joystick or external hard drive and away I go. No need to see what's inside. grin ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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My last 5 systems have ben Dells including desktops and laptops. I have had not one single problem with any of these systems, and I am able to spec them out with a Dell representative to get the components I want, for instance I got a gig of ram, an Audygy 2 audio card with a Raid hard drive system on my last desktop at a very good price. Before going to Dell, I used to build my own systems as well, and while you do save a few bucks, I find the Dell systems have performed better and with less incident with very high quality components, and I would reccomend them to anyone looking to buy a system with the minimum of fuss. I would at the same time highly reccomend not buying a system at Wal Mart or CostCo or wherever as their prices are low for a reason they use cheap components and cut corners at every opportunity, as friends of mine can attest to who have had nothing but trouble with their Wal Mart junk. The other two big players out there are Hewlett packard and Gateway, I think HP has a good product, but Gateway has been notorious for having power supply problems, but I haven't checked into that in the past few years. Any way you go these days though, you are going to get a screaming fast computer for a very reasonable price, it is hard to go wrong no matter what route you choose, even the Wal Mart crap is fairly reliable. Rock. Che - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Building gaming pcs was Important notice. Hi Jim, I've generally found custom building your own pc, especially a gaming pc, is much more reliable, and is more advanced than any store baught solution manufactured off an assembly line from Del, Compaq, HP, etc... You litterally get to choose every item that goes in to the computer motherboard, processor, sound card, hard drive, etc.. You can pay as much or as little as you wish. For example, the Maxtor hard drives are usually cheaper than Quantum and Western Digital, and sometimes show up in Wal-Mart e-machines. Well, I happen to know from personal experience the Maxtor hard drives have a very high failior rate where as Western Digital has been very very reliable. Another area that really matters to us is the quality of sound. Especially, when playing environmentally ritch games like Shades of Doom. Your typical Gateway or Del computer gives you an AC-97 chipset. Ok, for most users, but are crap for games. Instead of going that route you can just pay the bucks and have an Audegy or X-Fi sound card which produces extremely ritch audio. Finally, if you become a computer hobbiest, home builder, etc you can get discounts on software which allows you to upgrade faster than the general public. Me upgrading one of my systems to Vista this early. It is this ability to pick and choose everything that makes a custom build system much more powerful in the long run. The person who knows about building computers can often pick and choose higher quality materials which ends up with a more solid and robust system. Having been building systems for myself and others for the passed 10 years one thing you get to know is different manufacturers products, and can actually bench test them side by side. For example, AMD processors are generally pretty good, but I think the Intel Pentium sometimes does a bit of a better job, but at a much higher price. However, if cash is tight the little bit of edge from the Pentium isn't worth it. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, That is cool that you can build your own computer and get a discount on the price of the OEM software. I have never built a computer. Took one apart once though. grin My brother used to build computers for me. The dos computer was good for eight years. The windows only two. I have been very happy with both of my Dell computers. I have never even broken the seal on either of them. Just plug in the Triple Talk USB synthesizer, joystick or external hard drive and away I go. No need to see what's inside. grin ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
