Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-07 Thread shaun everiss

AAh.
Shows you how much I listen to my reader.
I just tend to type my message and not pay attention to it ie reading 
it back, and therefore not getting the things meaning clear.
After reading your message I can sertainly see where you are coming 
from but because I am lazy and hardly do it, it has never crossed my 
mind to do so.


At 02:25 AM 11/7/2013, you wrote:
Also, when not punctuated, a screen reader spits the message out as 
one long, continuous string of words, which makes no sense.


Did you notice that your screen put natural pauses in the first part 
of this message?  Now, notice how the next part sounds.


i hope this example makes my meaning clear i am doing this as 
constructive criticism in hopes that you understand my meaning do 
you get what i'm trying to get across to you shaun thanks


See?  You might have to go through that part, word by word, to 
really get the meaning, even though the spelling was 
right.  Punctuation makes a huge difference when it comes to being 
understood.  Thanks.


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- Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. 
I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.




Shaun,

This was more clear to me and others as to your original intent, but
you need to understand the way you write often times tends to ramble
on and on with no point in sight, is confusing to read, and getting
any kind of intelligible meaning from your posts is often times
difficult. Between the ramble, grammatical errors, misspelled words,
and general extraneous content no one wants to read your posts any
more. On the occasion someone does read one of your posts it is
usually filled with negative or pessimistic comments that do not
constructively add to the conversation. It is for these and other
reasons I felt it was in our best interests to moderate you so that
only messages with a clear point, a more positive outlook, and does
not flame or attack someone get through while filtering out all the
other less desirable messages.

Cheers!


On 11/6/13, shaun everiss  wrote:

Hi scot and all.
Firstly a clarification on my message.
1.  I was refering to how some sighted unfortunately may treat us,
yes I know its a stereotype that because  some believe sighted people
that is that we are helpless even when it may not be the case I may
maybe others may think the same stereotype about the sighted though
that is getting less and less the case.
My third statement was more if we got sued for copywrite over using
copywrited materials, and an inability to probably fund any suits
should we loose never mind other things related, since we are
disabled we have harder time getting jobs generally though this is
not always the case, it is if you like a pet fear of being stuck in a
corner.
If we ever got into legal trouble, I do wander with the little we may
have, cash wise what could we do if others decided to walk over us,
yes I know the same applies to everyone which is not a big giant
company that can happily sue other companies, but if you are a normal
user in the middle, being disabled just brings it closer to home
since I have no idea what I would do in this situation and I would
feel poor and helpless at that point.
So yeah its my problem and not yours.
I did not mean to offend anyone as such.
I should have rephrased these better.
I didn't mean what I write at least not those in the way I was
thinking, in truth I never thought about it as such, thinking others
would see through my meanings, though the same happens offline, I may
mean something different but say a completely different thing, one
thing I need to watch since it does slip itself out.


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Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-07 Thread shaun everiss
I understand tom, its a bad habbit of mine to get carried away and 
not construct my messages as properly as I probably should.
For example, I have some issues with the fact the audiogames industry 
is not spread out to other organisations for the disabled at least 
what I have seen on the limited number of sites for the blind orgs 
and some others I look at.
I understand the asabat stuff is probably for children, but it really 
gets my goat when a page for an organisation puts a children's game 
or whatever as the only game a blind person can play.

Especially since I know better and have played better.
I did play some of the asabat games and found at least for me that 
they didn't even meet the standard for some of jim kitchens games.

Granted if used for a child I can see it working.
Early last year I was involved in the predesign stages for a school 
laptop system for my local blind education instatute.

Naturally all games with violence needed to be weeded.
and also the games would need to be free or near free since this was 
for children with no cash as such to buy them being of a low 
echonomic family sector.

I needed to put out a few things.
Free games I came up with included jim kitchens games.
excluding all adult games and maybe the casino.
the quentin c and rsgames clients.
adventure at c.
a couple game book websites.
I think final conflict and trek2000.
Most of the l-works free games as well as the danzgames and at that 
time the pb games stuff.
I guess asabat and 7128 if I had put demos on and lonewolf would have 
been good to.

as well as decent into madness, last crusade and the sonic zoom games.
Now I think of it, most of the vipgameszone stuff would work to.
I do realise that a lot of organisations just don't think of blind 
games officially and thats sad but I understand.

Most of the stuff for the blind is business orientated and thats fine.
Is there any way to try to get ourselves out there.
I just don't think that using 1 company to represent blind gaming 
period is a good thing.

Now, if I were to choose.
I'd go for either pcs, gma or kitchensinc because they were there 
from the beginning.

Or I'd go for audiogames.net as the one to watch if I could only have one.
Audiogames.net has been a major driving force.
I realise that not all companies can be listed, but it would be nice 
if more organisations sold blind games from as many companies as 
possible and not just one company for children's games.
I do understand that most games at least with my local org were for 
children initially but still I do wander why no one has seriously 
conciddered at least investigating if not out right trying to at 
least have more for sale other places.
Another frustration is that all games seem to be in europe or the us, 
its almost like no one else is interested in games.
granted a few more places are not mentioned on my list, but largely I 
have seen games come in us prices.

I was hoping I could get games closer to home.
Spoonbil is in australia, but I do wander is the interest in 
developing blind games limited to sertain parts of the world where 
there are bigger concentrations of blind or what.

Its a musing and I don't expect an answer to this.


At 11:09 PM 11/6/2013, you wrote:

Shaun,

This was more clear to me and others as to your original intent, but
you need to understand the way you write often times tends to ramble
on and on with no point in sight, is confusing to read, and getting
any kind of intelligible meaning from your posts is often times
difficult. Between the ramble, grammatical errors, misspelled words,
and general extraneous content no one wants to read your posts any
more. On the occasion someone does read one of your posts it is
usually filled with negative or pessimistic comments that do not
constructively add to the conversation. It is for these and other
reasons I felt it was in our best interests to moderate you so that
only messages with a clear point, a more positive outlook, and does
not flame or attack someone get through while filtering out all the
other less desirable messages.

Cheers!


On 11/6/13, shaun everiss  wrote:
> Hi scot and all.
> Firstly a clarification on my message.
> 1.  I was refering to how some sighted unfortunately may treat us,
> yes I know its a stereotype that because  some believe sighted people
> that is that we are helpless even when it may not be the case I may
> maybe others may think the same stereotype about the sighted though
> that is getting less and less the case.
> My third statement was more if we got sued for copywrite over using
> copywrited materials, and an inability to probably fund any suits
> should we loose never mind other things related, since we are
> disabled we have harder time getting jobs generally though this is
> not always the case, it is if you like a pet fear of being stuck in a
> corner.
> If we ever got into legal trouble, I do wander with the little we may
> have, cash wise what could we do if others deci

Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-06 Thread Lisa Hayes

charles YOur point was well made here.
Lisa Hayes




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- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Rivard" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I 
repeat,will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.



Also, when not punctuated, a screen reader spits the message out as one 
long, continuous string of words, which makes no sense.


Did you notice that your screen put natural pauses in the first part of 
this message?  Now, notice how the next part sounds.


i hope this example makes my meaning clear i am doing this as constructive 
criticism in hopes that you understand my meaning do you get what i'm 
trying to get across to you shaun thanks


See?  You might have to go through that part, word by word, to really get 
the meaning, even though the spelling was right.  Punctuation makes a huge 
difference when it comes to being understood.  Thanks.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I 
repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.




Shaun,

This was more clear to me and others as to your original intent, but
you need to understand the way you write often times tends to ramble
on and on with no point in sight, is confusing to read, and getting
any kind of intelligible meaning from your posts is often times
difficult. Between the ramble, grammatical errors, misspelled words,
and general extraneous content no one wants to read your posts any
more. On the occasion someone does read one of your posts it is
usually filled with negative or pessimistic comments that do not
constructively add to the conversation. It is for these and other
reasons I felt it was in our best interests to moderate you so that
only messages with a clear point, a more positive outlook, and does
not flame or attack someone get through while filtering out all the
other less desirable messages.

Cheers!


On 11/6/13, shaun everiss  wrote:

Hi scot and all.
Firstly a clarification on my message.
1.  I was refering to how some sighted unfortunately may treat us,
yes I know its a stereotype that because  some believe sighted people
that is that we are helpless even when it may not be the case I may
maybe others may think the same stereotype about the sighted though
that is getting less and less the case.
My third statement was more if we got sued for copywrite over using
copywrited materials, and an inability to probably fund any suits
should we loose never mind other things related, since we are
disabled we have harder time getting jobs generally though this is
not always the case, it is if you like a pet fear of being stuck in a
corner.
If we ever got into legal trouble, I do wander with the little we may
have, cash wise what could we do if others decided to walk over us,
yes I know the same applies to everyone which is not a big giant
company that can happily sue other companies, but if you are a normal
user in the middle, being disabled just brings it closer to home
since I have no idea what I would do in this situation and I would
feel poor and helpless at that point.
So yeah its my problem and not yours.
I did not mean to offend anyone as such.
I should have rephrased these better.
I didn't mean what I write at least not those in the way I was
thinking, in truth I never thought about it as such, thinking others
would see through my meanings, though the same happens offline, I may
mean something different but say a completely different thing, one
thing I need to watch since it does slip itself out.


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Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-06 Thread Charles Rivard
Also, when not punctuated, a screen reader spits the message out as one 
long, continuous string of words, which makes no sense.


Did you notice that your screen put natural pauses in the first part of this 
message?  Now, notice how the next part sounds.


i hope this example makes my meaning clear i am doing this as constructive 
criticism in hopes that you understand my meaning do you get what i'm trying 
to get across to you shaun thanks


See?  You might have to go through that part, word by word, to really get 
the meaning, even though the spelling was right.  Punctuation makes a huge 
difference when it comes to being understood.  Thanks.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I 
repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.




Shaun,

This was more clear to me and others as to your original intent, but
you need to understand the way you write often times tends to ramble
on and on with no point in sight, is confusing to read, and getting
any kind of intelligible meaning from your posts is often times
difficult. Between the ramble, grammatical errors, misspelled words,
and general extraneous content no one wants to read your posts any
more. On the occasion someone does read one of your posts it is
usually filled with negative or pessimistic comments that do not
constructively add to the conversation. It is for these and other
reasons I felt it was in our best interests to moderate you so that
only messages with a clear point, a more positive outlook, and does
not flame or attack someone get through while filtering out all the
other less desirable messages.

Cheers!


On 11/6/13, shaun everiss  wrote:

Hi scot and all.
Firstly a clarification on my message.
1.  I was refering to how some sighted unfortunately may treat us,
yes I know its a stereotype that because  some believe sighted people
that is that we are helpless even when it may not be the case I may
maybe others may think the same stereotype about the sighted though
that is getting less and less the case.
My third statement was more if we got sued for copywrite over using
copywrited materials, and an inability to probably fund any suits
should we loose never mind other things related, since we are
disabled we have harder time getting jobs generally though this is
not always the case, it is if you like a pet fear of being stuck in a
corner.
If we ever got into legal trouble, I do wander with the little we may
have, cash wise what could we do if others decided to walk over us,
yes I know the same applies to everyone which is not a big giant
company that can happily sue other companies, but if you are a normal
user in the middle, being disabled just brings it closer to home
since I have no idea what I would do in this situation and I would
feel poor and helpless at that point.
So yeah its my problem and not yours.
I did not mean to offend anyone as such.
I should have rephrased these better.
I didn't mean what I write at least not those in the way I was
thinking, in truth I never thought about it as such, thinking others
would see through my meanings, though the same happens offline, I may
mean something different but say a completely different thing, one
thing I need to watch since it does slip itself out.


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Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-06 Thread shaun everiss
well I do try to be constructive, yes I aggree I 
get carried away and have a bad negitive side 
which sometimes rears its ugly mug, but I don't 
pretend to know everything and if my messages 
come as all knowing, then I appologise for that 
because sometimes I talk through a hole in my head and I shouldn't.


At 07:54 AM 11/6/2013, you wrote:
Glad to know that particular individual has been 
dealt with. For years I'd just delete any 
messages from him withouth reading them. THey 
never had anything constructive to say.




Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 11:30 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey 
Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.


Hello Scott,

For your information the individual you are complaining about has
already been dealt with, and he will not be returning to this list as
a full member for the foreseeable future.

As for justification keep in mind there is only one moderator and that
is me. Damien left some months ago and I have never gotten around to
replacing him. My personal life is in dire straights right now so this
list, while important to me, is pretty low on the things to worry
about. If you want to be a list moderator go ahead and make my day.
Otherwise  I consider this subject closed.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Shaun,

This was more clear to me and others as to your original intent, but
you need to understand the way you write often times tends to ramble
on and on with no point in sight, is confusing to read, and getting
any kind of intelligible meaning from your posts is often times
difficult. Between the ramble, grammatical errors, misspelled words,
and general extraneous content no one wants to read your posts any
more. On the occasion someone does read one of your posts it is
usually filled with negative or pessimistic comments that do not
constructively add to the conversation. It is for these and other
reasons I felt it was in our best interests to moderate you so that
only messages with a clear point, a more positive outlook, and does
not flame or attack someone get through while filtering out all the
other less desirable messages.

Cheers!


On 11/6/13, shaun everiss  wrote:
> Hi scot and all.
> Firstly a clarification on my message.
> 1.  I was refering to how some sighted unfortunately may treat us,
> yes I know its a stereotype that because  some believe sighted people
> that is that we are helpless even when it may not be the case I may
> maybe others may think the same stereotype about the sighted though
> that is getting less and less the case.
> My third statement was more if we got sued for copywrite over using
> copywrited materials, and an inability to probably fund any suits
> should we loose never mind other things related, since we are
> disabled we have harder time getting jobs generally though this is
> not always the case, it is if you like a pet fear of being stuck in a
> corner.
> If we ever got into legal trouble, I do wander with the little we may
> have, cash wise what could we do if others decided to walk over us,
> yes I know the same applies to everyone which is not a big giant
> company that can happily sue other companies, but if you are a normal
> user in the middle, being disabled just brings it closer to home
> since I have no idea what I would do in this situation and I would
> feel poor and helpless at that point.
> So yeah its my problem and not yours.
> I did not mean to offend anyone as such.
> I should have rephrased these better.
> I didn't mean what I write at least not those in the way I was
> thinking, in truth I never thought about it as such, thinking others
> would see through my meanings, though the same happens offline, I may
> mean something different but say a completely different thing, one
> thing I need to watch since it does slip itself out.

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Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-06 Thread shaun everiss

Hi scot and all.
Firstly a clarification on my message.
1.  I was refering to how some sighted unfortunately may treat us, 
yes I know its a stereotype that because  some believe sighted people 
that is that we are helpless even when it may not be the case I may 
maybe others may think the same stereotype about the sighted though 
that is getting less and less the case.
My third statement was more if we got sued for copywrite over using 
copywrited materials, and an inability to probably fund any suits 
should we loose never mind other things related, since we are 
disabled we have harder time getting jobs generally though this is 
not always the case, it is if you like a pet fear of being stuck in a corner.
If we ever got into legal trouble, I do wander with the little we may 
have, cash wise what could we do if others decided to walk over us, 
yes I know the same applies to everyone which is not a big giant 
company that can happily sue other companies, but if you are a normal 
user in the middle, being disabled just brings it closer to home 
since I have no idea what I would do in this situation and I would 
feel poor and helpless at that point.

So yeah its my problem and not yours.
I did not mean to offend anyone as such.
I should have rephrased these better.
I didn't mean what I write at least not those in the way I was 
thinking, in truth I never thought about it as such, thinking others 
would see through my meanings, though the same happens offline, I may 
mean something different but say a completely different thing, one 
thing I need to watch since it does slip itself out.


At 12:25 AM 11/4/2013, you wrote:

I'd just like to take a moment to draw attention to a couple of key
phrases from Sean's most recent splurge of wisdom

1. At any rate we don't want the poor, super mentally mangled blind as
the image for the magazine.

2. My suspician is the poor blind, super blind, mental blind, and
stupid dumb helpless blind nut which has been growing thicker and
thicker may be a quite hard nut to crack and will need a godly sized
hammer to smash if it can ever be smashed.

3. However the disabled really have no resources thats why we are
disabled, most of the cash a lot of us get is from normals so normals
will need to be targeted and normals are not us.
They don't think like us and sertainly they have no idea what it is
like to be us.

Moderators: please explain why your attention has been drawn to
variations of this time and again, yet blatantly offensive posts like
this are still making it into my inbox? While you're at it, I'd enjoy
reading your justification for why these posts aren't already being
held for moderation. Isn't that what you're here for? It blows my mind
that people here care about capitalisation to the point of entire
threads existing about it, but this gets glossed over. This isn't a
case of "if you don't like it, delete it and move on", these are
routine derogatory posts that are being archived for the whole world
to see, and whether you like it or not, they are portraying us as a
group.

I realise that good netiquette would've been to write to the mods
privately, but honestly, at this point I think it's more important
that a public record of someone trying to do something about this
exists.

Scott


On 10/29/13, shaun everiss  wrote:
> Well you sertainly have hit  the zombie right there.
> I know our local blind org has experimented with audiogames sertainly
> knows about them.
> Would they publish an interesting mag, probably but I am not sure
> about the reviewing process.
> We would need editers and people in all countries that had orgs at
> least it would use fewer resources.
> Now how many would be interested would be the thing.
> Especially if there are those that think the poor blindies can play
> asabat games or games that support something else and not the normal
> games probably wouldn't care.
> At any rate we don't want the poor, super mentally mangled blind as
> the image for the magazine.
> How many organisations have been excluded, I am not sure but with the
> attitude  going round I suggest enough to make a dent righ there.
> I am also not a socal blogger, I have a twitter for viewing tweats
> and a wordpress but find it hard to write on either.
> I wouldn't hold myself to post something per week, its really hard to do.
> To be honest my local org is only just now investigating nvda as a
> reader that is not jaws only now.
> How long the review processes will take and how long would it take to
> geet a rejection if ever it surfaced again.
> And the coverage.
> in the news released last month, the mention of nvda was 2 lines.
> 1 its being investigated
> 2.  it has some issues which jaws does not have.
> and there you go.
> no description of what the issues were nothing.
> Its a pitty.
> Immediately I wrote to the devs to solve this and was requested info.
> A trackback found no one to talk to at all, and this worries me.
> Its a flat rejection right there.
> at leas

Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

Well, hopefully my personal situation will be straightened out by the
end of the year. I don't want to say too much on this list at this
time, but I'll just say that it currently demands a lot of my time and
attention, and is stressful to say the least.


On 11/5/13, dark  wrote:
> As Scot said tom I'm sorry your life isn't going well at the moment and I
> hope things improve.
>
> As likely most people know I already work as admin for audiogames.net forum,
>
> so I'd rather not try to moderate this list as well.
>
> All the best,
>
> Dark.
>

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Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-05 Thread dark
As Scot said tom I'm sorry your life isn't going well at the moment and I 
hope things improve.


As likely most people know I already work as admin for audiogames.net forum, 
so I'd rather not try to moderate this list as well.


All the best,

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Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-05 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hey Tom,

Glad to see it got done, although much less glad to hear about you
having real life trouble. I already mod a couple of places and spend
more time on mail than I should, so probably shouldn't take you up on
that, tempting as it is.

Thanks for cleaning up man...

Scott


On 11/5/13, Thomas Ward  wrote:
> Hello Scott,
>
> For your information the individual you are complaining about has
> already been dealt with, and he will not be returning to this list as
> a full member for the foreseeable future.
>
> As for justification keep in mind there is only one moderator and that
> is me. Damien left some months ago and I have never gotten around to
> replacing him. My personal life is in dire straights right now so this
> list, while important to me, is pretty low on the things to worry
> about. If you want to be a list moderator go ahead and make my day.
> Otherwise  I consider this subject closed.
>
> Cheers!
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-05 Thread Bryan Peterson
Glad to know that particular individual has been dealt with. For years I'd 
just delete any messages from him withouth reading them. THey never had 
anything constructive to say.




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Hello Scott,

For your information the individual you are complaining about has
already been dealt with, and he will not be returning to this list as
a full member for the foreseeable future.

As for justification keep in mind there is only one moderator and that
is me. Damien left some months ago and I have never gotten around to
replacing him. My personal life is in dire straights right now so this
list, while important to me, is pretty low on the things to worry
about. If you want to be a list moderator go ahead and make my day.
Otherwise  I consider this subject closed.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Scott,

For your information the individual you are complaining about has
already been dealt with, and he will not be returning to this list as
a full member for the foreseeable future.

As for justification keep in mind there is only one moderator and that
is me. Damien left some months ago and I have never gotten around to
replacing him. My personal life is in dire straights right now so this
list, while important to me, is pretty low on the things to worry
about. If you want to be a list moderator go ahead and make my day.
Otherwise  I consider this subject closed.

Cheers!

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[Audyssey] Will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up. I repeat, will the real Audyssey Mod please stand up.

2013-11-05 Thread Scott Chesworth
I'd just like to take a moment to draw attention to a couple of key
phrases from Sean's most recent splurge of wisdom

1. At any rate we don't want the poor, super mentally mangled blind as
the image for the magazine.

2. My suspician is the poor blind, super blind, mental blind, and
stupid dumb helpless blind nut which has been growing thicker and
thicker may be a quite hard nut to crack and will need a godly sized
hammer to smash if it can ever be smashed.

3. However the disabled really have no resources thats why we are
disabled, most of the cash a lot of us get is from normals so normals
will need to be targeted and normals are not us.
They don't think like us and sertainly they have no idea what it is
like to be us.

Moderators: please explain why your attention has been drawn to
variations of this time and again, yet blatantly offensive posts like
this are still making it into my inbox? While you're at it, I'd enjoy
reading your justification for why these posts aren't already being
held for moderation. Isn't that what you're here for? It blows my mind
that people here care about capitalisation to the point of entire
threads existing about it, but this gets glossed over. This isn't a
case of "if you don't like it, delete it and move on", these are
routine derogatory posts that are being archived for the whole world
to see, and whether you like it or not, they are portraying us as a
group.

I realise that good netiquette would've been to write to the mods
privately, but honestly, at this point I think it's more important
that a public record of someone trying to do something about this
exists.

Scott


On 10/29/13, shaun everiss  wrote:
> Well you sertainly have hit  the zombie right there.
> I know our local blind org has experimented with audiogames sertainly
> knows about them.
> Would they publish an interesting mag, probably but I am not sure
> about the reviewing process.
> We would need editers and people in all countries that had orgs at
> least it would use fewer resources.
> Now how many would be interested would be the thing.
> Especially if there are those that think the poor blindies can play
> asabat games or games that support something else and not the normal
> games probably wouldn't care.
> At any rate we don't want the poor, super mentally mangled blind as
> the image for the magazine.
> How many organisations have been excluded, I am not sure but with the
> attitude  going round I suggest enough to make a dent righ there.
> I am also not a socal blogger, I have a twitter for viewing tweats
> and a wordpress but find it hard to write on either.
> I wouldn't hold myself to post something per week, its really hard to do.
> To be honest my local org is only just now investigating nvda as a
> reader that is not jaws only now.
> How long the review processes will take and how long would it take to
> geet a rejection if ever it surfaced again.
> And the coverage.
> in the news released last month, the mention of nvda was 2 lines.
> 1 its being investigated
> 2.  it has some issues which jaws does not have.
> and there you go.
> no description of what the issues were nothing.
> Its a pitty.
> Immediately I wrote to the devs to solve this and was requested info.
> A trackback found no one to talk to at all, and this worries me.
> Its a flat rejection right there.
> at least officially.
> Ok, so I know now nvda eventually came out but no publication what so ever.
> My suspician is the poor blind, super blind, mental blind, and stupid
> dumb helpless blind nut which has been growing thicker and thicker
> may be a quite hard nut to crack and will need a godly sized hammer
> to smash if it can ever be smashed.
> Yes its todays world but the old habbits still exist in some shape or form.
> I am not confordent that anyone will change without rocking the
> blindy boat unless there is a reason and sertainly nothing big.
> I am not saying don't try but still.
> The next we can do is try to get with magazine distributers themselves.
> Now a spaciffic blindness mag has no market value I tried to get a
> mag I read blind use.
> So we would our mag as a section of a mag if we ever got it going.
> Now that may not happen either.
> We would need someone in each contry to represent us at events and such.
> But mainstream events who would play a blindy games when there is graphics.
> Blind games are after all crap to sighted, maybe not all but enough
> that it would not make it a worthwhile thing at least not without
> some major something.
> And it all comes to cash to.
> I don't think any of us has millions of dollars, the sighted on here
> may have more resource.
> But us poor blindies really don't all have work and may be dependant
> on handouts and schemes.
> In fact if I did not live at home I probably wouldn't have resources
> to even go online!
> At least not broadband.
> The abismal fact is we need a large ammount of capital to even start
> sinking this no matter the running costs of this.
> That