Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hello. I just remembered, but SSE setup can at least look to see if dot net is installed, but dunno about direct x. SSE is free and acts similar to inno setup, f y i. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > Hi Kuvvosh, > Well, as I stated in my last message to do what you are asking requires > that I obtain Microsoft Setup Installer which can do that and more. > However, you probably don't realise to get Microsoft Setup Installer I > must buy Visual Studio Pro 2008 which costs around $700 USD./ I no > longer have $700 to buy it, and I won't buy it for that price. > InnoSetup, which is free, works well enough as long as end users > remember to install my games in the proper order. As it happens once I > get things moved to Java DirectX and .NET won't be a major issue any > more anyway. > I also had a real need for a set of new laptops. My wife's laptop was an > old laptop running Windows 98, and it really neded updated to something > new. My old laptop was beginning to have some technical issues like over > heating, rebooting for no reason, and half the time the cd drive > wouldn't read disks. In other words I think it was about shot. Not to > mention I baught it used, and it wasn't exactly in great condition when > I got it. > So my wife and I agreed we should take some of the earnings from > Montezuma's Return to invest in a set of new laptops and Office 2007. > > Kuvvosh wrote: >> Well, how about implement it where it looks to see if the required files >> are >> there, and if not, ask if you would like to download the required files >> and >> it'll pull them off the net for you and install them in the correct >> order? >> >> Kuvvosh >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
cause the installer would be big, the idea of downloading them if the comp doesn't have em is neat though - Original Message - From: "Kuvvosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start >I noticed on a lot of new programs that if you install them, if you don't > meet the requirements it will not install until you do, and some even > install the stuff for you before the main program install. Why not just > compile the game with the DX and .Net and have them install before the > game > so that way no one can't say it won't install? > > Just a Thought. And Yes I know the installer would be bigger, but oh > well. > > Kuvvosh > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Thomas Ward > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:58 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > > Hi Charles, > It is a sad fact that a large majority of users buy products and begin > using the product without even looking at the supplied owner's manual. > It is also a statistical fact those same users that didn't read the > owner's manual are amung the first to begin emailing or calling tech > support wanting help even though the answer is right there in the > manual. I can understand if something is confusing, but a lot of the > time it just comes down to end user laziness. > > Charles Rivard wrote: >> Dang. Manuals and other documentation sure can solve a lot of simple >> headaches, can't they? Read them, folks. That's why they're there! >> >> --- >> If you don't stand behind our troops, >> please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
thats still good. My system is a 512 mb ram 2.4ghz 40gb hard drive toshiba a10. I may just get another tosh with xp in the netxt year or so incase because I don't want to go in the deep end about buying things. I have been working on a old del dimention x 2004 for the last 3 days and its been a load of work. At 04:38 a.m. 29/01/2008, you wrote: >Hi Corry, >Well, since I had to buy two laptops I didn't buy something quite as >nice but I purchased two Compaq's with a 3.6 GHZ processor, 1 GB of ram, >120 GB hard drive, 3 USB 2.0 ports, an 8 speed duel layer burner, a 15.4 >inch wide screen display, and Vista Home Basic. While I would have liked >something like a Duo processor I didn't have the cash to get two of them. > >Cory wrote: >> that's aussom! I just got an hp for 6 49. Vista Home preemeam. 2 gig's ram >> and 160 hard drive and dool core for a friend. What id you get? >> > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hi Bryan. yep. It is a Compaq Presario 500 series notebook. I really like it even though they did have some nicer laptops available where I baught mine. Bryan wrote: > Is yours a Compaq Presario? If so that's the same as mine. > Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Is yours a Compaq Presario? If so that's the same as mine. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > Hi Corry, > Well, since I had to buy two laptops I didn't buy something quite as > nice but I purchased two Compaq's with a 3.6 GHZ processor, 1 GB of ram, > 120 GB hard drive, 3 USB 2.0 ports, an 8 speed duel layer burner, a 15.4 > inch wide screen display, and Vista Home Basic. While I would have liked > something like a Duo processor I didn't have the cash to get two of them. > > Cory wrote: >> that's aussom! I just got an hp for 6 49. Vista Home preemeam. 2 gig's >> ram >> and 160 hard drive and dool core for a friend. What id you get? >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hi Corry, Well, since I had to buy two laptops I didn't buy something quite as nice but I purchased two Compaq's with a 3.6 GHZ processor, 1 GB of ram, 120 GB hard drive, 3 USB 2.0 ports, an 8 speed duel layer burner, a 15.4 inch wide screen display, and Vista Home Basic. While I would have liked something like a Duo processor I didn't have the cash to get two of them. Cory wrote: > that's aussom! I just got an hp for 6 49. Vista Home preemeam. 2 gig's ram > and 160 hard drive and dool core for a friend. What id you get? > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hi Shaun, Ahem... There is no need to install .NET 1.1, 2.0, and 3.0 all together. It is my understanding that the .NET 3.0 Framework is backward compatible with .NET 1.1 and 2.0 applications. At least with the version that came with Windows Vista the pre-installed 3.0 framework works fine with 1.1 and 2.0 .NET based apps out of the box. The only update that you might want to grab is .NET 3.5 which is so new not a lot of .NET stuff is using yet. shaun everiss wrote: > also worth noting that newer dotnets will require directx to be reloaded, I > usually install dotnet 1.1, 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5 and then get all updates and > load them, and once very update is loaded including service packs and the > like I then install directx. > you can do it that way but if you do it just loading dx, first before dotnet > or after you have loaded dotnet and you update it or install another dotnet > set then you invalidate the install. > However I usually install directx9 first, load all the dotnet and reinstall, > as ita easier and faster to reinitualise dx on all the dotnets rather then > the wait to install everything. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
that's aussom! I just got an hp for 6 49. Vista Home preemeam. 2 gig's ram and 160 hard drive and dool core for a friend. What id you get? - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > Hi Kuvvosh, > Well, as I stated in my last message to do what you are asking requires > that I obtain Microsoft Setup Installer which can do that and more. > However, you probably don't realise to get Microsoft Setup Installer I > must buy Visual Studio Pro 2008 which costs around $700 USD./ I no > longer have $700 to buy it, and I won't buy it for that price. > InnoSetup, which is free, works well enough as long as end users > remember to install my games in the proper order. As it happens once I > get things moved to Java DirectX and .NET won't be a major issue any > more anyway. > I also had a real need for a set of new laptops. My wife's laptop was an > old laptop running Windows 98, and it really neded updated to something > new. My old laptop was beginning to have some technical issues like over > heating, rebooting for no reason, and half the time the cd drive > wouldn't read disks. In other words I think it was about shot. Not to > mention I baught it used, and it wasn't exactly in great condition when > I got it. > So my wife and I agreed we should take some of the earnings from > Montezuma's Return to invest in a set of new laptops and Office 2007. > > Kuvvosh wrote: >> Well, how about implement it where it looks to see if the required files >> are >> there, and if not, ask if you would like to download the required files >> and >> it'll pull them off the net for you and install them in the correct >> order? >> >> Kuvvosh >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hi Charles, First, One thing the setup program has to do is test if the version installed is older, the same, or newer than the one required for the game. As I have mentioned in previous emails to my knowledge InnoSetup can't do this, but Microsoft Setup Installer can. Which is a bit of a problem for me at the moment. Second, if you already have said requirements installed all you would need to do is get the 30 MB game and not the extra 110 MB in requirements again and again for each game. That takes up allot more storage space, and takes longer to download to boot. All unnecessary if you have it already setup and installed. Charles Rivard wrote: > Also, a thought: If you include them with every game, and I have updated > them since they came out, how would that affect my system? This is why I > don't think they should be included with every game. > > --- > If you don't stand behind our troops, > please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hi Kuvvosh, Well, as I stated in my last message to do what you are asking requires that I obtain Microsoft Setup Installer which can do that and more. However, you probably don't realise to get Microsoft Setup Installer I must buy Visual Studio Pro 2008 which costs around $700 USD./ I no longer have $700 to buy it, and I won't buy it for that price. InnoSetup, which is free, works well enough as long as end users remember to install my games in the proper order. As it happens once I get things moved to Java DirectX and .NET won't be a major issue any more anyway. I also had a real need for a set of new laptops. My wife's laptop was an old laptop running Windows 98, and it really neded updated to something new. My old laptop was beginning to have some technical issues like over heating, rebooting for no reason, and half the time the cd drive wouldn't read disks. In other words I think it was about shot. Not to mention I baught it used, and it wasn't exactly in great condition when I got it. So my wife and I agreed we should take some of the earnings from Montezuma's Return to invest in a set of new laptops and Office 2007. Kuvvosh wrote: > Well, how about implement it where it looks to see if the required files are > there, and if not, ask if you would like to download the required files and > it'll pull them off the net for you and install them in the correct order? > > Kuvvosh > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
also worth noting that newer dotnets will require directx to be reloaded, I usually install dotnet 1.1, 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5 and then get all updates and load them, and once very update is loaded including service packs and the like I then install directx. you can do it that way but if you do it just loading dx, first before dotnet or after you have loaded dotnet and you update it or install another dotnet set then you invalidate the install. However I usually install directx9 first, load all the dotnet and reinstall, as ita easier and faster to reinitualise dx on all the dotnets rather then the wait to install everything. At 01:20 a.m. 28/01/2008, you wrote: >Ive repaired this issue. >Missing direct X things. >I installed direct X before dot net, so have to rerun the install for direct >X to install the dot net support. >Thanks. >shane >- Original Message - >From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:06 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > > >>I don't know, I have dotnet 3.0 and 3.5 now loaded and all service updates >>from windowsupdate.com >> I also have the nov 2007 directx loaded. >> At 03:08 p.m. 26/01/2008, you wrote: >>>Ok, after installing direct X august 2007 and dot net framework 3.0 from >>>the usagames.us website, I installed both STFC and montazoomas return on >>>this new installation of windows with dotnet3.0 and directX august 2007, >>>when starting either game I get an error report dialogue with both send >>>and don't send buttons. >>>Any idea why this would be happening? >>>Remember dot net framework 3.0 and directX august 2007 are both installed >>>thanks. >>>shane >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>list, >>>please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hi Cara, Well, the only problem with your suggestion is that I would require Microsoft Setup Installer to do my installs with rather than using InnoSetup. InnoSetup is a nice installer, but last I checked it can not look for .NET Framework dependancies and update the .NET Framework from the web or cd based on installed version. It is also unable to look for specific requirements such as the Managed DirectX components for .NET applications. As you might expect in order to get an up to date version of Microsoft Setup Installer I would have to purchase Visual Studio Pro 2008 which I no longer have the funds for. I just went out and purchased a new laptop, correction, two new laptops for my wife and I with the earnings from Montezuma's Return. Other than not having MicrosoftSetup Installer support I have found Visual Studio Express 2008 fits all of my business needs. The rest of the funds from Montezuma's Return have been alocated for sounds, music, and other USA Games needs. Cara Quinn wrote: >Thomas, an alternative might be to have the installer check for the > appropriate .net framework / Dx versions and point the user to the > website or the docs if they aren't installed?... > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Well, how about implement it where it looks to see if the required files are there, and if not, ask if you would like to download the required files and it'll pull them off the net for you and install them in the correct order? Kuvvosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start Hi Kuvvosh and all, I was just discussing this off list with someone else and the reason the DirectX and .NET Frameworks were not installed with my games is it will add around 110 MB to every game install. A game like Montezuma's Return, which is 29 MB, would instantly become a 139 MB download. That uses more server drive space, more bandwidth, and would be difficult for those on dialup to download. I guess what gets me about this entire thing is including it with every game would be unnecessary if people would just read the documentation first That is all that is required.. Though, I guess developers have to make up for others inability to do the obvious. Kuvvosh wrote: > I noticed on a lot of new programs that if you install them, if you don't > meet the requirements it will not install until you do, and some even > install the stuff for you before the main program install. Why not just > compile the game with the DX and .Net and have them install before the game > so that way no one can't say it won't install? > > Just a Thought. And Yes I know the installer would be bigger, but oh well. > > Kuvvosh > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hopefully, silently. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > Hi Shane, > Yep, time to follow your own advice. > Just for the record I am guilty of doing this now and then myself. Often > times I think I know what I am doing so I don't look at the docs right > away, and get in trouble. Then, I read the docs and find out where I > goofed up, and am able to fix the issue. > > PS > > How exactly does a brain fart? > > > > Shane Davidson wrote: >> I've installed USA games before, but I sort of had a brain fart and >> forgot >> the order, and got myself all confused. >> I tell everyone read the manual, time to follow my own advice, eh? lol! >> Thanks. >> shane >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hi Shane, Yep, time to follow your own advice. Just for the record I am guilty of doing this now and then myself. Often times I think I know what I am doing so I don't look at the docs right away, and get in trouble. Then, I read the docs and find out where I goofed up, and am able to fix the issue. PS How exactly does a brain fart? Shane Davidson wrote: > I've installed USA games before, but I sort of had a brain fart and forgot > the order, and got myself all confused. > I tell everyone read the manual, time to follow my own advice, eh? lol! > Thanks. > shane > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Also, a thought: If you include them with every game, and I have updated them since they came out, how would that affect my system? This is why I don't think they should be included with every game. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > Hi Kuvvosh and all, > I was just discussing this off list with someone else and the reason the > DirectX and .NET Frameworks were not installed with my games is it will > add around 110 MB to every game install. A game like Montezuma's Return, > which is 29 MB, would instantly become a 139 MB download. That uses more > server drive space, more bandwidth, and would be difficult for those on > dialup to download. > I guess what gets me about this entire thing is including it with every > game would be unnecessary if people would just read the documentation > first That is all that is required.. Though, I guess developers have to > make up for others inability to do the obvious. > > Kuvvosh wrote: >> I noticed on a lot of new programs that if you install them, if you don't >> meet the requirements it will not install until you do, and some even >> install the stuff for you before the main program install. Why not just >> compile the game with the DX and .Net and have them install before the >> game >> so that way no one can't say it won't install? >> >> Just a Thought. And Yes I know the installer would be bigger, but oh >> well. >> >> Kuvvosh >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Thomas, an alternative might be to have the installer check for the appropriate .net framework / Dx versions and point the user to the website or the docs if they aren't installed?... Smiles, Cara :) On Jan 27, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Kuvvosh and all, > I was just discussing this off list with someone else and the reason > the > DirectX and .NET Frameworks were not installed with my games is it > will > add around 110 MB to every game install. A game like Montezuma's > Return, > which is 29 MB, would instantly become a 139 MB download. That uses > more > server drive space, more bandwidth, and would be difficult for those > on > dialup to download. > I guess what gets me about this entire thing is including it with > every > game would be unnecessary if people would just read the documentation > first That is all that is required.. Though, I guess developers have > to > make up for others inability to do the obvious. > > Kuvvosh wrote: >> I noticed on a lot of new programs that if you install them, if you >> don't >> meet the requirements it will not install until you do, and some even >> install the stuff for you before the main program install. Why >> not just >> compile the game with the DX and .Net and have them install before >> the game >> so that way no one can't say it won't install? >> >> Just a Thought. And Yes I know the installer would be bigger, but >> oh well. >> >> Kuvvosh >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > . > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of > the list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hi Kuvvosh and all, I was just discussing this off list with someone else and the reason the DirectX and .NET Frameworks were not installed with my games is it will add around 110 MB to every game install. A game like Montezuma's Return, which is 29 MB, would instantly become a 139 MB download. That uses more server drive space, more bandwidth, and would be difficult for those on dialup to download. I guess what gets me about this entire thing is including it with every game would be unnecessary if people would just read the documentation first That is all that is required.. Though, I guess developers have to make up for others inability to do the obvious. Kuvvosh wrote: > I noticed on a lot of new programs that if you install them, if you don't > meet the requirements it will not install until you do, and some even > install the stuff for you before the main program install. Why not just > compile the game with the DX and .Net and have them install before the game > so that way no one can't say it won't install? > > Just a Thought. And Yes I know the installer would be bigger, but oh well. > > Kuvvosh > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
I've installed USA games before, but I sort of had a brain fart and forgot the order, and got myself all confused. I tell everyone read the manual, time to follow my own advice, eh? lol! Thanks. shane - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > Hi Charles, > It is a sad fact that a large majority of users buy products and begin > using the product without even looking at the supplied owner's manual. > It is also a statistical fact those same users that didn't read the > owner's manual are amung the first to begin emailing or calling tech > support wanting help even though the answer is right there in the > manual. I can understand if something is confusing, but a lot of the > time it just comes down to end user laziness. > > Charles Rivard wrote: >> Dang. Manuals and other documentation sure can solve a lot of simple >> headaches, can't they? Read them, folks. That's why they're there! >> >> --- >> If you don't stand behind our troops, >> please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
I noticed on a lot of new programs that if you install them, if you don't meet the requirements it will not install until you do, and some even install the stuff for you before the main program install. Why not just compile the game with the DX and .Net and have them install before the game so that way no one can't say it won't install? Just a Thought. And Yes I know the installer would be bigger, but oh well. Kuvvosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start Hi Charles, It is a sad fact that a large majority of users buy products and begin using the product without even looking at the supplied owner's manual. It is also a statistical fact those same users that didn't read the owner's manual are amung the first to begin emailing or calling tech support wanting help even though the answer is right there in the manual. I can understand if something is confusing, but a lot of the time it just comes down to end user laziness. Charles Rivard wrote: > Dang. Manuals and other documentation sure can solve a lot of simple > headaches, can't they? Read them, folks. That's why they're there! > > --- > If you don't stand behind our troops, > please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hi Charles, It is a sad fact that a large majority of users buy products and begin using the product without even looking at the supplied owner's manual. It is also a statistical fact those same users that didn't read the owner's manual are amung the first to begin emailing or calling tech support wanting help even though the answer is right there in the manual. I can understand if something is confusing, but a lot of the time it just comes down to end user laziness. Charles Rivard wrote: > Dang. Manuals and other documentation sure can solve a lot of simple > headaches, can't they? Read them, folks. That's why they're there! > > --- > If you don't stand behind our troops, > please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
*cough* - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > Dang. Manuals and other documentation sure can solve a lot of simple > headaches, can't they? Read them, folks. That's why they're there! > > --- > If you don't stand behind our troops, > please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! > > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > > >> Hi, >> I answered Shane's question off list, but I want to share the solution >> here so others don't make the same mistake. The Montezuma's Return >> manual as well as the USA Games FAQ page specifically state the proper >> order of installation is: >> >> 1. Install .NET Framework 3.0. >> 2. Install DirectX August 2007. >> 3. Install USA Games product or products. >> >> Failing to install our games in this exact order will cause our games to >> crash and fail. The reason is DirectX will not properly install and >> register it's .NET components unless a working and properly registered >> .NET Framework is installed first. Unfortunately, this tends to be our >> number one problem amung new USA Games customers, and we strongly >> recommend reading our docs before doing an install the first time. >> >> >> >> Shane Davidson wrote: >>> Ok, after installing direct X august 2007 and dot net framework 3.0 from >>> the usagames.us website, I installed both STFC and montazoomas return on >>> this new installation of windows with dotnet3.0 and directX august 2007, >>> when starting either game I get an error report dialogue with both send >>> and don't send buttons. >>> Any idea why this would be happening? >>> Remember dot net framework 3.0 and directX august 2007 are both >>> installed >>> thanks. >>> shane >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Why? I'm in good health. (grin) --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Gilley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > *cough* > - Original Message - > From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:09 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > > >> Dang. Manuals and other documentation sure can solve a lot of simple >> headaches, can't they? Read them, folks. That's why they're there! >> >> --- >> If you don't stand behind our troops, >> please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start >> >> >>> Hi, >>> I answered Shane's question off list, but I want to share the solution >>> here so others don't make the same mistake. The Montezuma's Return >>> manual as well as the USA Games FAQ page specifically state the proper >>> order of installation is: >>> >>> 1. Install .NET Framework 3.0. >>> 2. Install DirectX August 2007. >>> 3. Install USA Games product or products. >>> >>> Failing to install our games in this exact order will cause our games to >>> crash and fail. The reason is DirectX will not properly install and >>> register it's .NET components unless a working and properly registered >>> .NET Framework is installed first. Unfortunately, this tends to be our >>> number one problem amung new USA Games customers, and we strongly >>> recommend reading our docs before doing an install the first time. >>> >>> >>> >>> Shane Davidson wrote: >>>> Ok, after installing direct X august 2007 and dot net framework 3.0 >>>> from >>>> the usagames.us website, I installed both STFC and montazoomas return >>>> on >>>> this new installation of windows with dotnet3.0 and directX august >>>> 2007, >>>> when starting either game I get an error report dialogue with both send >>>> and don't send buttons. >>>> Any idea why this would be happening? >>>> Remember dot net framework 3.0 and directX august 2007 are both >>>> installed >>>> thanks. >>>> shane >>>> --- >>>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>> list, >>>> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Dang. Manuals and other documentation sure can solve a lot of simple headaches, can't they? Read them, folks. That's why they're there! --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start > Hi, > I answered Shane's question off list, but I want to share the solution > here so others don't make the same mistake. The Montezuma's Return > manual as well as the USA Games FAQ page specifically state the proper > order of installation is: > > 1. Install .NET Framework 3.0. > 2. Install DirectX August 2007. > 3. Install USA Games product or products. > > Failing to install our games in this exact order will cause our games to > crash and fail. The reason is DirectX will not properly install and > register it's .NET components unless a working and properly registered > .NET Framework is installed first. Unfortunately, this tends to be our > number one problem amung new USA Games customers, and we strongly > recommend reading our docs before doing an install the first time. > > > > Shane Davidson wrote: >> Ok, after installing direct X august 2007 and dot net framework 3.0 from >> the usagames.us website, I installed both STFC and montazoomas return on >> this new installation of windows with dotnet3.0 and directX august 2007, >> when starting either game I get an error report dialogue with both send >> and don't send buttons. >> Any idea why this would be happening? >> Remember dot net framework 3.0 and directX august 2007 are both installed >> thanks. >> shane >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hi, I answered Shane's question off list, but I want to share the solution here so others don't make the same mistake. The Montezuma's Return manual as well as the USA Games FAQ page specifically state the proper order of installation is: 1. Install .NET Framework 3.0. 2. Install DirectX August 2007. 3. Install USA Games product or products. Failing to install our games in this exact order will cause our games to crash and fail. The reason is DirectX will not properly install and register it's .NET components unless a working and properly registered .NET Framework is installed first. Unfortunately, this tends to be our number one problem amung new USA Games customers, and we strongly recommend reading our docs before doing an install the first time. Shane Davidson wrote: > Ok, after installing direct X august 2007 and dot net framework 3.0 from the > usagames.us website, I installed both STFC and montazoomas return on this new > installation of windows with dotnet3.0 and directX august 2007, when starting > either game I get an error report dialogue with both send and don't send > buttons. > Any idea why this would be happening? > Remember dot net framework 3.0 and directX august 2007 are both installed > thanks. > shane > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Ive repaired this issue. Missing direct X things. I installed direct X before dot net, so have to rerun the install for direct X to install the dot net support. Thanks. shane - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start >I don't know, I have dotnet 3.0 and 3.5 now loaded and all service updates >from windowsupdate.com > I also have the nov 2007 directx loaded. > At 03:08 p.m. 26/01/2008, you wrote: >>Ok, after installing direct X august 2007 and dot net framework 3.0 from >>the usagames.us website, I installed both STFC and montazoomas return on >>this new installation of windows with dotnet3.0 and directX august 2007, >>when starting either game I get an error report dialogue with both send >>and don't send buttons. >>Any idea why this would be happening? >>Remember dot net framework 3.0 and directX august 2007 are both installed >>thanks. >>shane >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>list, >>please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
I don't know, I have dotnet 3.0 and 3.5 now loaded and all service updates from windowsupdate.com I also have the nov 2007 directx loaded. At 03:08 p.m. 26/01/2008, you wrote: >Ok, after installing direct X august 2007 and dot net framework 3.0 from the >usagames.us website, I installed both STFC and montazoomas return on this new >installation of windows with dotnet3.0 and directX august 2007, when starting >either game I get an error report dialogue with both send and don't send >buttons. >Any idea why this would be happening? >Remember dot net framework 3.0 and directX august 2007 are both installed >thanks. >shane >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Ok, after installing direct X august 2007 and dot net framework 3.0 from the usagames.us website, I installed both STFC and montazoomas return on this new installation of windows with dotnet3.0 and directX august 2007, when starting either game I get an error report dialogue with both send and don't send buttons. Any idea why this would be happening? Remember dot net framework 3.0 and directX august 2007 are both installed thanks. shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
