Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for anupdatedLone Wolf
hi, i'm not talking about accessibility i'm talking about quality so i'll be switching from a higher quality product to a lower quality product just because of accessibility -- From: john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 6:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for anupdatedLone Wolf If your saying that MSE is inaccessable, that's not at all true. Not only is it totally accessable, but it's much much faster and far less entrucive than anything else I've scene, said being MSE, AVG, and Mcafee. - Original Message - From: enes enes.sari...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:02:35 +0200 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for an updatedLone Wolf hi, about new technology first microsoft is putting in ribbons to make the operating system more useful for sited people that's fine but why not add an option to switch to the old style menus I mean, whats rong with menus more companies getting unaccessible I used avira antivir 9.0 a vary powerful free antivirus, avira dropped accessibility in 10.0 and in 12.0 its even worse so i'm still using 9.0 and if they drop the virus defenition and engine updates i'll have to switch to microsoft security essentials probably not that I wantto but there isn't much available in terms of accessibility -- From: Alex Kenny alexkenn...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Charles, While this has een brue in the past, Windows 7 used fewer system resources than did Vista, and Windows 8 will use even fewer, as it is being designed to run on tablets and even phones as well as PC's. No one is saying you must upgrade to new technology. However, as previously mentioned, Microsoft does go to great efforts to support their older technology, much more than companies like Apple or Google, so we're actually doing a lot better in terms fo Windows XP and VB support than we would if these products were in the hands of other tech companies. If you want to stick with old tech, fine. If you want to use older tech, that's fine. But it's not really fair to make baseless accusations when it's no longer being supported. To bring this back on topic, new technology such as XAudio2 and XNA will allow the creation of better accessible games. Games will continue getting more complex, and it will eventually get to the point where an old XP machine with an old Pentium and 256 MB of RAM just isn't going to be able to handle a multi-channel, 3D audio environment, and people will need to upgrade if they want to enjoy these games. On 12/12/11, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Another thing about new technology--Microsoft's Windows in particular: I buy a computer to do tasks, not to run the operating system. If I have to buy a new PC because my old one doesn't have enough CPU power, it can't be loaded with enough RAM, the hardware isn't supported by the new OS, and I need to move along with technology, I will do so. However, 2 years down the road, before the bugs have been worked out of this OS I bought the new PC to be able to operate, Microsoft comes out with a new, more demanding OS. Two years later, another one that is more demanding. Two years later, another one that is more demanding. Before I know it, thanks only to Microsoft, I have another obsolete computer. I need to buy another one to handle the new technology. This! is! crap! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. If you think you are beaten, you are; If you think you dare not, you don't; If you'd like to win, but you think you can't, It's almost a cinch you won't; If you think you'll lose, you've lost, For out in the world you'll find Success begins with a fellow's
Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for anupdatedLone Wolf
uh, where did you get the idea its worse? in fact, it actually beets a lot of them when it comes to that. which is kinda surprising. but there you go. dallas On 14/12/2011 03:11, enes wrote: hi, i'm not talking about accessibility i'm talking about quality so i'll be switching from a higher quality product to a lower quality product just because of accessibility -- From: john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 6:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for anupdatedLone Wolf If your saying that MSE is inaccessable, that's not at all true. Not only is it totally accessable, but it's much much faster and far less entrucive than anything else I've scene, said being MSE, AVG, and Mcafee. - Original Message - From: enes enes.sari...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:02:35 +0200 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for an updatedLone Wolf hi, about new technology first microsoft is putting in ribbons to make the operating system more useful for sited people that's fine but why not add an option to switch to the old style menus I mean, whats rong with menus more companies getting unaccessible I used avira antivir 9.0 a vary powerful free antivirus, avira dropped accessibility in 10.0 and in 12.0 its even worse so i'm still using 9.0 and if they drop the virus defenition and engine updates i'll have to switch to microsoft security essentials probably not that I wantto but there isn't much available in terms of accessibility -- From: Alex Kenny alexkenn...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Charles, While this has een brue in the past, Windows 7 used fewer system resources than did Vista, and Windows 8 will use even fewer, as it is being designed to run on tablets and even phones as well as PC's. No one is saying you must upgrade to new technology. However, as previously mentioned, Microsoft does go to great efforts to support their older technology, much more than companies like Apple or Google, so we're actually doing a lot better in terms fo Windows XP and VB support than we would if these products were in the hands of other tech companies. If you want to stick with old tech, fine. If you want to use older tech, that's fine. But it's not really fair to make baseless accusations when it's no longer being supported. To bring this back on topic, new technology such as XAudio2 and XNA will allow the creation of better accessible games. Games will continue getting more complex, and it will eventually get to the point where an old XP machine with an old Pentium and 256 MB of RAM just isn't going to be able to handle a multi-channel, 3D audio environment, and people will need to upgrade if they want to enjoy these games. On 12/12/11, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Another thing about new technology--Microsoft's Windows in particular: I buy a computer to do tasks, not to run the operating system. If I have to buy a new PC because my old one doesn't have enough CPU power, it can't be loaded with enough RAM, the hardware isn't supported by the new OS, and I need to move along with technology, I will do so. However, 2 years down the road, before the bugs have been worked out of this OS I bought the new PC to be able to operate, Microsoft comes out with a new, more demanding OS. Two years later, another one that is more demanding. Two years later, another one that is more demanding. Before I know it, thanks only to Microsoft, I have another obsolete computer. I need to buy another one to handle the new technology. This! is! crap! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. If you think you are beaten, you are; If you think you dare
Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for anupdatedLone Wolf
Well how is this for quality. Most of the paid virus stuff is hardly accessible and feed back to help make it is non existent, and at least MSE don't state a system file is a virus like those others do. Some times when something is free. That don't mean is junk. I have seen more junk cost a lot and still be junk. At 12:11 PM 12/13/2011, you wrote: hi, i'm not talking about accessibility i'm talking about quality so i'll be switching from a higher quality product to a lower quality product just because of accessibility -- From: john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 6:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for anupdatedLone Wolf If your saying that MSE is inaccessable, that's not at all true. Not only is it totally accessable, but it's much much faster and far less entrucive than anything else I've scene, said being MSE, AVG, and Mcafee. - Original Message - From: enes enes.sari...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:02:35 +0200 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for an updatedLone Wolf hi, about new technology first microsoft is putting in ribbons to make the operating system more useful for sited people that's fine but why not add an option to switch to the old style menus I mean, whats rong with menus more companies getting unaccessible I used avira antivir 9.0 a vary powerful free antivirus, avira dropped accessibility in 10.0 and in 12.0 its even worse so i'm still using 9.0 and if they drop the virus defenition and engine updates i'll have to switch to microsoft security essentials probably not that I wantto but there isn't much available in terms of accessibility -- From: Alex Kenny alexkenn...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new technology? Balogna! - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Charles, While this has een brue in the past, Windows 7 used fewer system resources than did Vista, and Windows 8 will use even fewer, as it is being designed to run on tablets and even phones as well as PC's. No one is saying you must upgrade to new technology. However, as previously mentioned, Microsoft does go to great efforts to support their older technology, much more than companies like Apple or Google, so we're actually doing a lot better in terms fo Windows XP and VB support than we would if these products were in the hands of other tech companies. If you want to stick with old tech, fine. If you want to use older tech, that's fine. But it's not really fair to make baseless accusations when it's no longer being supported. To bring this back on topic, new technology such as XAudio2 and XNA will allow the creation of better accessible games. Games will continue getting more complex, and it will eventually get to the point where an old XP machine with an old Pentium and 256 MB of RAM just isn't going to be able to handle a multi-channel, 3D audio environment, and people will need to upgrade if they want to enjoy these games. On 12/12/11, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Another thing about new technology--Microsoft's Windows in particular: I buy a computer to do tasks, not to run the operating system. If I have to buy a new PC because my old one doesn't have enough CPU power, it can't be loaded with enough RAM, the hardware isn't supported by the new OS, and I need to move along with technology, I will do so. However, 2 years down the road, before the bugs have been worked out of this OS I bought the new PC to be able to operate, Microsoft comes out with a new, more demanding OS. Two years later, another one that is more demanding. Two years later, another one that is more demanding. Before I know it, thanks only to Microsoft, I have another obsolete computer. I need to buy another one to handle the new technology. This! is! crap! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns