Re: [Audyssey] the raspberry pie
well I reviewed the raspberry site which gave me the info, so I have to assume that that link is now out of date because there were issues last year and it looks like the site has not been updated in that time. I did find it odd that it hadn't changed though. At 01:38 a.m. 30/10/2014, you wrote: Since Willem mentioned it, I thought I'd also correct some of Shaun's mis-statements: - graphics and sound have their own channels. It's capable of full 1080p video while simultaneously emitting stereo sound, so I'm not sure what the issue is. And if it was to be turned into a VI "console" of sorts, the video would be moot anyways. - there are multiple distributions available. The Raspberry Pi foundation provides the "Raspbian" image which is a remix of the Debian distribution. Other remixes are available as well -- you can run Arch Linux, Ubuntu Linux, NetBSD or FreeBSD. However, if the game developers are providing full disk images to be booted, the underlying OS shouldn't matter to the end user, just the developer - I think Shaun is trying to claim that it needs an Arduino (a small light-weight processor used for small electronics project) which is patently false. While you do need to provide your own power supply (a common USB phone-charger is popular), input/output devices are optional such as a keyboard, mouse, headphones, RCA/HDMI connection, or network cable. There are also a bunch of GPIO (general purpose Input/Output) pins that *can* be connected to an Arduino to program the Arduino, but that is completely optional and has a very different goal (to program the stand-alone Arduino, not the functioning of the Raspberry Pi) That said, the processor on the Raspberry Pi *is* low-power so it's only clocked at 700MHz, but that should be plenty for playing most games. -tim On 2014-10-29 10:59, Willem Venter wrote: > Hi Shaun. > Everything that you said in the message below is wrong. Please check > your facts before posting. Or better yet, if you no nothing about a > subject don't pretend to know something. > On 10/28/14, shaun everiss wrote: > > I may be wrong, and this is only from a blog I read a little ago > > now but there are various issues with the pie at the time of > > freading which was at the end of last year beginning of this. > > The most serious one is that the firmware after a sertain version > > makes things access wize break. > > Also since the graphics and sound go through one channel you can > > only process one sound or image at once not both. > > The pie does have its own linux distribution and aparently you > > need to gget ubuntu or something more accessable for it. > > you also need an eduino to program it aparently. > > It can be used but the processer power is not that great, its > > primary use is for kids and testing things, fiddling with things > > but as a primary or gaming box it was not that great at the time > > I read the digitaldarragh.com blog last year though I am not sure > > since then. > > > > At 03:50 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: > >>It sounds like a $25 or $35 Raspberry Pi unit could serve as a > >>custom console. You'd need to hook up a USB power supply (such as > >>certain phone-chargers) and a USB keyboard, then either plug in > >>some headphones or connect the HDMI output to your home stereo > >>system. Depending on the game, you could also add a mouse or USB > >>game-pad. > >> > >>Game authors could either provide the game's image file and have > >>you write it to your own SD card, or they could charge more for > >>pre-formatted SD cards much like the old Atari or NES cartridges. > >>You'd then just plug in the card, power on the system, and you're > >>right into the game. > >> > >>The $35 unit has a built-in network adapter which could provide > >>for networked games. The common hardware along with the included > >>Linux system image would allow the game authors to ensure the same > >>experience for everyone. > >> > >>Authors could even release multi-game packs that would boot into a > >>menu where you can choose one of multiple games and then have that > >>game launched. > >> > >>Just throwing ideas out on the table... > >> > >>-tim > >> > >>On 2014-10-26 21:17, Josh k wrote: > >> > too bad there's not some sort of custom console OS that you > >> > flash onto your console and once flashed, the console is > >> > accessible with accessible games you can buy from between $5 > >> > and $20 or so. I would love that! > >> > > >> > On 10/26/2014 7:35 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > >> > > Hello Josh, > >> > > > >> > > Actually, they do mod the console games in a lot of cases. > >> > > More and more console games are being modded and customized > >> > > than you might think. > >> > > > >> > > Cheers! > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 10/26/14, Josh k wrote: > >> > >> but the hard core gamers cannot mod their games with a > >> > >> console. you cannot make game mods. > >> > > --- > >> > > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audys
Re: [Audyssey] the raspberry pie
Since Willem mentioned it, I thought I'd also correct some of Shaun's mis-statements: - graphics and sound have their own channels. It's capable of full 1080p video while simultaneously emitting stereo sound, so I'm not sure what the issue is. And if it was to be turned into a VI "console" of sorts, the video would be moot anyways. - there are multiple distributions available. The Raspberry Pi foundation provides the "Raspbian" image which is a remix of the Debian distribution. Other remixes are available as well -- you can run Arch Linux, Ubuntu Linux, NetBSD or FreeBSD. However, if the game developers are providing full disk images to be booted, the underlying OS shouldn't matter to the end user, just the developer - I think Shaun is trying to claim that it needs an Arduino (a small light-weight processor used for small electronics project) which is patently false. While you do need to provide your own power supply (a common USB phone-charger is popular), input/output devices are optional such as a keyboard, mouse, headphones, RCA/HDMI connection, or network cable. There are also a bunch of GPIO (general purpose Input/Output) pins that *can* be connected to an Arduino to program the Arduino, but that is completely optional and has a very different goal (to program the stand-alone Arduino, not the functioning of the Raspberry Pi) That said, the processor on the Raspberry Pi *is* low-power so it's only clocked at 700MHz, but that should be plenty for playing most games. -tim On 2014-10-29 10:59, Willem Venter wrote: > Hi Shaun. > Everything that you said in the message below is wrong. Please check > your facts before posting. Or better yet, if you no nothing about a > subject don't pretend to know something. > On 10/28/14, shaun everiss wrote: > > I may be wrong, and this is only from a blog I read a little ago > > now but there are various issues with the pie at the time of > > freading which was at the end of last year beginning of this. > > The most serious one is that the firmware after a sertain version > > makes things access wize break. > > Also since the graphics and sound go through one channel you can > > only process one sound or image at once not both. > > The pie does have its own linux distribution and aparently you > > need to gget ubuntu or something more accessable for it. > > you also need an eduino to program it aparently. > > It can be used but the processer power is not that great, its > > primary use is for kids and testing things, fiddling with things > > but as a primary or gaming box it was not that great at the time > > I read the digitaldarragh.com blog last year though I am not sure > > since then. > > > > At 03:50 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: > >>It sounds like a $25 or $35 Raspberry Pi unit could serve as a > >>custom console. You'd need to hook up a USB power supply (such as > >>certain phone-chargers) and a USB keyboard, then either plug in > >>some headphones or connect the HDMI output to your home stereo > >>system. Depending on the game, you could also add a mouse or USB > >>game-pad. > >> > >>Game authors could either provide the game's image file and have > >>you write it to your own SD card, or they could charge more for > >>pre-formatted SD cards much like the old Atari or NES cartridges. > >>You'd then just plug in the card, power on the system, and you're > >>right into the game. > >> > >>The $35 unit has a built-in network adapter which could provide > >>for networked games. The common hardware along with the included > >>Linux system image would allow the game authors to ensure the same > >>experience for everyone. > >> > >>Authors could even release multi-game packs that would boot into a > >>menu where you can choose one of multiple games and then have that > >>game launched. > >> > >>Just throwing ideas out on the table... > >> > >>-tim > >> > >>On 2014-10-26 21:17, Josh k wrote: > >> > too bad there's not some sort of custom console OS that you > >> > flash onto your console and once flashed, the console is > >> > accessible with accessible games you can buy from between $5 > >> > and $20 or so. I would love that! > >> > > >> > On 10/26/2014 7:35 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > >> > > Hello Josh, > >> > > > >> > > Actually, they do mod the console games in a lot of cases. > >> > > More and more console games are being modded and customized > >> > > than you might think. > >> > > > >> > > Cheers! > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 10/26/14, Josh k wrote: > >> > >> but the hard core gamers cannot mod their games with a > >> > >> console. you cannot make game mods. > >> > > --- > >> > > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > >> > > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > >> > > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or > >> > > update your subscription via the web, at > >> > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All > >> > > messages are archived and can be searched and
Re: [Audyssey] the raspberry pie
Hi Shaun. Everything that you said in the message below is wrong. Please check your facts before posting. Or better yet, if you no nothing about a subject don't pretend to know something. On 10/28/14, shaun everiss wrote: > I may be wrong, and this is only from a blog I read a little ago now > but there are various issues with the pie at the time of freading > which was at the end of last year beginning of this. > The most serious one is that the firmware after a sertain version > makes things access wize break. > Also since the graphics and sound go through one channel you can > only process one sound or image at once not both. > The pie does have its own linux distribution and aparently you need > to gget ubuntu or something more accessable for it. > you also need an eduino to program it aparently. > It can be used but the processer power is not that great, its > primary use is for kids and testing things, fiddling with things but > as a primary or gaming box it was not that great at the time I read > the digitaldarragh.com blog last year though I am not sure since then. > > At 03:50 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: >>It sounds like a $25 or $35 Raspberry Pi unit could serve as a >>custom console. You'd need to hook up a USB power supply (such as >>certain phone-chargers) and a USB keyboard, then either plug in some >>headphones or connect the HDMI output to your home stereo system. >>Depending on the game, you could also add a mouse or USB game-pad. >> >>Game authors could either provide the game's image file and have you >>write it to your own SD card, or they could charge more for >>pre-formatted SD cards much like the old Atari or NES cartridges. >>You'd then just plug in the card, power on the system, and you're >>right into the game. >> >>The $35 unit has a built-in network adapter which could provide for >>networked games. The common hardware along with the included Linux >>system image would allow the game authors to ensure the same >>experience for everyone. >> >>Authors could even release multi-game packs that would boot into a >>menu where you can choose one of multiple games and then have that >>game launched. >> >>Just throwing ideas out on the table... >> >>-tim >> >>On 2014-10-26 21:17, Josh k wrote: >> > too bad there's not some sort of custom console OS that you flash >> > onto your console and once flashed, the console is accessible with >> > accessible games you can buy from between $5 and $20 or so. I would >> > love that! >> > >> > On 10/26/2014 7:35 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: >> > > Hello Josh, >> > > >> > > Actually, they do mod the console games in a lot of cases. More >> > > and more console games are being modded and customized than you >> > > might think. >> > > >> > > Cheers! >> > > >> > > >> > > On 10/26/14, Josh k wrote: >> > >> but the hard core gamers cannot mod their games with a console. >> > >> you cannot make game mods. >> > > --- >> > > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> > > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> > > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update >> > > your subscription via the web, at >> > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All >> > > messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any >> > > questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> > > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > >> > >> > --- >> > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update >> > your subscription via the web, at >> > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All >> > messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any >> > questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please >> > send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gam
Re: [Audyssey] the raspberry pie
I subscribe to the "Raspberry VI" mailing list which you're welcome to join at http://www.freelists.org/archives/raspberry-vi and, as operating-system accessibility goes, you can read the entire log at http://www.raspberryvi.org/accessibility-progress That said, this is assuming that the operating system is exposed to the user via an accessible interface and that you're trying to use it as a general-purpose operating system. My suggestion was that it be treated as a console, booting directly into the game which would manage the entire interface. For that, audio should work just fine. -tim On 2014-10-28 16:09, shaun everiss wrote: > I may be wrong, and this is only from a blog I read a little ago > now but there are various issues with the pie at the time of > freading which was at the end of last year beginning of this. > The most serious one is that the firmware after a sertain version > makes things access wize break. > Also since the graphics and sound go through one channel you can > only process one sound or image at once not both. > The pie does have its own linux distribution and aparently you need > to gget ubuntu or something more accessable for it. > you also need an eduino to program it aparently. > It can be used but the processer power is not that great, its > primary use is for kids and testing things, fiddling with things > but as a primary or gaming box it was not that great at the time I > read the digitaldarragh.com blog last year though I am not sure > since then. > > At 03:50 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: > >It sounds like a $25 or $35 Raspberry Pi unit could serve as a > >custom console. You'd need to hook up a USB power supply (such as > >certain phone-chargers) and a USB keyboard, then either plug in > >some headphones or connect the HDMI output to your home stereo > >system. Depending on the game, you could also add a mouse or USB > >game-pad. > > > >Game authors could either provide the game's image file and have > >you write it to your own SD card, or they could charge more for > >pre-formatted SD cards much like the old Atari or NES cartridges. > >You'd then just plug in the card, power on the system, and you're > >right into the game. > > > >The $35 unit has a built-in network adapter which could provide for > >networked games. The common hardware along with the included Linux > >system image would allow the game authors to ensure the same > >experience for everyone. > > > >Authors could even release multi-game packs that would boot into a > >menu where you can choose one of multiple games and then have that > >game launched. > > > >Just throwing ideas out on the table... > > > >-tim > > > >On 2014-10-26 21:17, Josh k wrote: > > > too bad there's not some sort of custom console OS that you > > > flash onto your console and once flashed, the console is > > > accessible with accessible games you can buy from between $5 > > > and $20 or so. I would love that! > > > > > > On 10/26/2014 7:35 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > > > > Hello Josh, > > > > > > > > Actually, they do mod the console games in a lot of cases. > > > > More and more console games are being modded and customized > > > > than you might think. > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/26/14, Josh k wrote: > > > >> but the hard core gamers cannot mod their games with a > > > >> console. you cannot make game mods. > > > > --- > > > > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > > > > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > > > > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or > > > > update your subscription via the web, at > > > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All > > > > messages are archived and can be searched and read at > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have > > > > any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > > > > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > > > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > > > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update > > > your subscription via the web, at > > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All > > > messages are archived and can be searched and read at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any > > > questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > > > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > > > > >--- > >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > >gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update > >your subscription via the web, at > >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All > >messages are archived and can be searched and read at > >http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any > >questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please > >send E-mail to gam
[Audyssey] the raspberry pie
I may be wrong, and this is only from a blog I read a little ago now but there are various issues with the pie at the time of freading which was at the end of last year beginning of this. The most serious one is that the firmware after a sertain version makes things access wize break. Also since the graphics and sound go through one channel you can only process one sound or image at once not both. The pie does have its own linux distribution and aparently you need to gget ubuntu or something more accessable for it. you also need an eduino to program it aparently. It can be used but the processer power is not that great, its primary use is for kids and testing things, fiddling with things but as a primary or gaming box it was not that great at the time I read the digitaldarragh.com blog last year though I am not sure since then. At 03:50 p.m. 27/10/2014, you wrote: It sounds like a $25 or $35 Raspberry Pi unit could serve as a custom console. You'd need to hook up a USB power supply (such as certain phone-chargers) and a USB keyboard, then either plug in some headphones or connect the HDMI output to your home stereo system. Depending on the game, you could also add a mouse or USB game-pad. Game authors could either provide the game's image file and have you write it to your own SD card, or they could charge more for pre-formatted SD cards much like the old Atari or NES cartridges. You'd then just plug in the card, power on the system, and you're right into the game. The $35 unit has a built-in network adapter which could provide for networked games. The common hardware along with the included Linux system image would allow the game authors to ensure the same experience for everyone. Authors could even release multi-game packs that would boot into a menu where you can choose one of multiple games and then have that game launched. Just throwing ideas out on the table... -tim On 2014-10-26 21:17, Josh k wrote: > too bad there's not some sort of custom console OS that you flash > onto your console and once flashed, the console is accessible with > accessible games you can buy from between $5 and $20 or so. I would > love that! > > On 10/26/2014 7:35 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > > Hello Josh, > > > > Actually, they do mod the console games in a lot of cases. More > > and more console games are being modded and customized than you > > might think. > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > On 10/26/14, Josh k wrote: > >> but the hard core gamers cannot mod their games with a console. > >> you cannot make game mods. > > --- > > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update > > your subscription via the web, at > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All > > messages are archived and can be searched and read at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any > > questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update > your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All > messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any > questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please > send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
