Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people
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Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people
Hi Thomas, No problem chief. Maybe when you finish Montezuma's Revenge, Race Way, Star Trek Final Conflict, your Universal Screen Access screen reader program, your Linux page, a monopoly game and the other games that you mentioned that you want to do you could then work on a couple of good, non cheap free card games. BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, (Smile) Quite right. Sorry about that chief. Anyway, my initial point was I could write simple card games, board games, etc that don't cost me much for Linux if there was demand for it, but not allot of the same grade of games that you would see on Windows unless I see a greater market for it. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, My games are not cheap. They are free. BFN Jim Doing nothing is very hard to do...you never know when you're finished. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Jim, (Smile) Yeah, I do have allot of work. There is always more ideas than there is time enough to complete them. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people
Hi, You can go to www.ubuntu.com Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hi Thomas. Thanks for the information. I thought it was off topic because this list is only for games, and I asked about the accessibility of Ubuntu. Where can I find a accessible version of a desctop version of Linux and the other things I need to get it to work with speech? I have only tried Oralux wich I find very cool, but I also want to try the desctop version of Linux. Best regards Søren. Mail MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hi Soren, Wile this is off topic I think in the interest of everyone on list I'll answer your question on list just so everyone knows the answer. Yes, Linux is becoming much more accessible in recent years. The Ubuntu Linux OS is by far probably the most accessible with the Fedora Linux OS as a good second. One reason I tell newbies to go with Ubuntu is you can run the entire os off of your cd drive to test it out before installing it. It also can be run from thumb drives, portible hard drives, and is really a nice little version of the Linux OS. Incorperated into Ubuntu is the Orca screen reader which will not only read the Ubuntu installation for you, but is pretty speech friendly with the Firefox web browser, Evolution email client, Open Office, and many core Linux applications now. That said I don't want anyone to download and install this thinking they are getting the same access quality as say Jaws 8.0 or Window Eyes 6.1. Orca works well, and will help you successfully use Ubuntu or Fedora Linux on a daily basis. However, access still is not on a one to one comparison with Windows or Windows screen readers. full and total Access is still a few years behind. For example, the X-Windows environment offers two desktops Gnome and KDE. Of the two KDE is the most like Windows XP, but is still unaccesible, and won't be accessible until KDE 4.0 which is still being developed from scratch. Gnome however is not bad, and is functionally usable, but there are still apps and parts of Gnome that don't work as well with Orca as they should. I do think as far as accessible games for Linux are needed now that the OS can be used successfully by a blind user, I have done it many times, but there is no commercial market to do so. I could probably write some cheap Java based games that are like Jim Kitchen games, but actually doing a STFC, Montezuma's Revenge, or Raceway for Linux would be very time consuming with little cash insentive. Søren Jensen wrote: Hi Josh. Is Ubuntu accessible for us? Please let me know of the list since this is off topic Best regards Søren. Mail MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hi, Does anyone know if any of the linux infocom game interpreters will work either under linux ubuntu, or the console under ubuntu using speakup or orca? I would also want to keep xp on this machine to play games on there, because as far as I know I can't play stfc and games like that under any form of linux or in any linux distribution. or can I? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people
Hi Jim, (Smile) Quite right. Sorry about that chief. Anyway, my initial point was I could write simple card games, board games, etc that don't cost me much for Linux if there was demand for it, but not allot of the same grade of games that you would see on Windows unless I see a greater market for it. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, My games are not cheap. They are free. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people
Hi Trenton, Once I clear away some of the major issues I am dealing with Montezuma's Revenge I will look into putting my Linux pages back up for gamers. As you may know the site is still under construction, and this has ben a loer priority than Monty. As for Universal Screen Access I am still writing that screen reader. So there is no official web site for it yet. Trenton Matthews wrote: By the way, what happened to that web page you had with the Ubuntu stuff on it? You mind bringing that back someday? I know it was under construction, but well... Either that, or what's the web site for Universal Screen Access? I couldn't find a URL to it. Trenton Matthews --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people
Hello Josh. I have frotz for Linux working fine and it plays Infocom and Z code games just fine. I forget where I got it from, but I had to compile it myself because the binaries available did not work under Fedora Core 5 which is my Linux OS. Another one I use is frob which is a TADS game player for Linux. It too works nicely. If you can't find either of these, let me know off list and I'll send you what I have. -- Raul A. Gallegos .. http://www.asmodean.net Josh said the following on 8/21/2007 7:27 AM: Hi, Does anyone know if any of the linux infocom game interpreters will work either under linux ubuntu, or the console under ubuntu using speakup or orca? I would also want to keep xp on this machine to play games on there, because as far as I know I can't play stfc and games like that under any form of linux or in any linux distribution. or can I? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people
Hi Josh. Is Ubuntu accessible for us? Please let me know of the list since this is off topic Best regards Søren. Mail MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hi, Does anyone know if any of the linux infocom game interpreters will work either under linux ubuntu, or the console under ubuntu using speakup or orca? I would also want to keep xp on this machine to play games on there, because as far as I know I can't play stfc and games like that under any form of linux or in any linux distribution. or can I? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people
Hiya, If you're at all interested in this kind of game, I've found roguelike games far more accessible under Linux console than under Windows. In particular, Nethack and Adom work quite remarkably. As for interactive fiction, frtoz works, as does frobTADS. Hope this helps, Zack. - Original Message - From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:27 AM Subject: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hi, Does anyone know if any of the linux infocom game interpreters will work either under linux ubuntu, or the console under ubuntu using speakup or orca? I would also want to keep xp on this machine to play games on there, because as far as I know I can't play stfc and games like that under any form of linux or in any linux distribution. or can I? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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what are roguelike games? I never heard of them. can you give more detail as to what they are and how they are played? do they have sounds? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hiya, If you're at all interested in this kind of game, I've found roguelike games far more accessible under Linux console than under Windows. In particular, Nethack and Adom work quite remarkably. As for interactive fiction, frtoz works, as does frobTADS. Hope this helps, Zack. - Original Message - From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:27 AM Subject: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hi, Does anyone know if any of the linux infocom game interpreters will work either under linux ubuntu, or the console under ubuntu using speakup or orca? I would also want to keep xp on this machine to play games on there, because as far as I know I can't play stfc and games like that under any form of linux or in any linux distribution. or can I? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Josh, Yes, there are some Linux infocom interpreters that will work with Orca under Ubuntu 7.x. As far as running games like STFC the major problem is there is no support for DirectX under Linux. There is a .Net Framework called Mono which would run the game, but no support for DirectX which is a core feature of the games. There is no Sapi support. In order to run games under Linux I'd have to rewrite the games to support stuff like SDL, OpenAl, and Gnome-Speech which is quite an under taking. The alternative would be to move to a Java code base. Josh wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if any of the linux infocom game interpreters will work either under linux ubuntu, or the console under ubuntu using speakup or orca? I would also want to keep xp on this machine to play games on there, because as far as I know I can't play stfc and games like that under any form of linux or in any linux distribution. or can I? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Soren, Wile this is off topic I think in the interest of everyone on list I'll answer your question on list just so everyone knows the answer. Yes, Linux is becoming much more accessible in recent years. The Ubuntu Linux OS is by far probably the most accessible with the Fedora Linux OS as a good second. One reason I tell newbies to go with Ubuntu is you can run the entire os off of your cd drive to test it out before installing it. It also can be run from thumb drives, portible hard drives, and is really a nice little version of the Linux OS. Incorperated into Ubuntu is the Orca screen reader which will not only read the Ubuntu installation for you, but is pretty speech friendly with the Firefox web browser, Evolution email client, Open Office, and many core Linux applications now. That said I don't want anyone to download and install this thinking they are getting the same access quality as say Jaws 8.0 or Window Eyes 6.1. Orca works well, and will help you successfully use Ubuntu or Fedora Linux on a daily basis. However, access still is not on a one to one comparison with Windows or Windows screen readers. full and total Access is still a few years behind. For example, the X-Windows environment offers two desktops Gnome and KDE. Of the two KDE is the most like Windows XP, but is still unaccesible, and won't be accessible until KDE 4.0 which is still being developed from scratch. Gnome however is not bad, and is functionally usable, but there are still apps and parts of Gnome that don't work as well with Orca as they should. I do think as far as accessible games for Linux are needed now that the OS can be used successfully by a blind user, I have done it many times, but there is no commercial market to do so. I could probably write some cheap Java based games that are like Jim Kitchen games, but actually doing a STFC, Montezuma's Revenge, or Raceway for Linux would be very time consuming with little cash insentive. Søren Jensen wrote: Hi Josh. Is Ubuntu accessible for us? Please let me know of the list since this is off topic Best regards Søren. Mail MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hi, Does anyone know if any of the linux infocom game interpreters will work either under linux ubuntu, or the console under ubuntu using speakup or orca? I would also want to keep xp on this machine to play games on there, because as far as I know I can't play stfc and games like that under any form of linux or in any linux distribution. or can I? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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By the way, what happened to that web page you had with the Ubuntu stuff on it? You mind bringing that back someday? I know it was under construction, but well... Either that, or what's the web site for Universal Screen Access? I couldn't find a URL to it. Trenton Matthews T Man TV! Why watch it, if you can listen to it! Web site: http://TMan.net.ms Windows Live/MSN: a href=http://tman.net.ms/msnim:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a Skype: a href=skype:tmantv?addAd me to your Skype contacts!/a By Phone: 303-872-7536 - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hi Soren, Wile this is off topic I think in the interest of everyone on list I'll answer your question on list just so everyone knows the answer. Yes, Linux is becoming much more accessible in recent years. The Ubuntu Linux OS is by far probably the most accessible with the Fedora Linux OS as a good second. One reason I tell newbies to go with Ubuntu is you can run the entire os off of your cd drive to test it out before installing it. It also can be run from thumb drives, portible hard drives, and is really a nice little version of the Linux OS. Incorperated into Ubuntu is the Orca screen reader which will not only read the Ubuntu installation for you, but is pretty speech friendly with the Firefox web browser, Evolution email client, Open Office, and many core Linux applications now. That said I don't want anyone to download and install this thinking they are getting the same access quality as say Jaws 8.0 or Window Eyes 6.1. Orca works well, and will help you successfully use Ubuntu or Fedora Linux on a daily basis. However, access still is not on a one to one comparison with Windows or Windows screen readers. full and total Access is still a few years behind. For example, the X-Windows environment offers two desktops Gnome and KDE. Of the two KDE is the most like Windows XP, but is still unaccesible, and won't be accessible until KDE 4.0 which is still being developed from scratch. Gnome however is not bad, and is functionally usable, but there are still apps and parts of Gnome that don't work as well with Orca as they should. I do think as far as accessible games for Linux are needed now that the OS can be used successfully by a blind user, I have done it many times, but there is no commercial market to do so. I could probably write some cheap Java based games that are like Jim Kitchen games, but actually doing a STFC, Montezuma's Revenge, or Raceway for Linux would be very time consuming with little cash insentive. Søren Jensen wrote: Hi Josh. Is Ubuntu accessible for us? Please let me know of the list since this is off topic Best regards Søren. Mail MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hi, Does anyone know if any of the linux infocom game interpreters will work either under linux ubuntu, or the console under ubuntu using speakup or orca? I would also want to keep xp on this machine to play games on there, because as far as I know I can't play stfc and games like that under any form of linux or in any linux distribution. or can I? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked
Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people
Hi Thomas. Thanks for the information. I thought it was off topic because this list is only for games, and I asked about the accessibility of Ubuntu. Where can I find a accessible version of a desctop version of Linux and the other things I need to get it to work with speech? I have only tried Oralux wich I find very cool, but I also want to try the desctop version of Linux. Best regards Søren. Mail MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hi Soren, Wile this is off topic I think in the interest of everyone on list I'll answer your question on list just so everyone knows the answer. Yes, Linux is becoming much more accessible in recent years. The Ubuntu Linux OS is by far probably the most accessible with the Fedora Linux OS as a good second. One reason I tell newbies to go with Ubuntu is you can run the entire os off of your cd drive to test it out before installing it. It also can be run from thumb drives, portible hard drives, and is really a nice little version of the Linux OS. Incorperated into Ubuntu is the Orca screen reader which will not only read the Ubuntu installation for you, but is pretty speech friendly with the Firefox web browser, Evolution email client, Open Office, and many core Linux applications now. That said I don't want anyone to download and install this thinking they are getting the same access quality as say Jaws 8.0 or Window Eyes 6.1. Orca works well, and will help you successfully use Ubuntu or Fedora Linux on a daily basis. However, access still is not on a one to one comparison with Windows or Windows screen readers. full and total Access is still a few years behind. For example, the X-Windows environment offers two desktops Gnome and KDE. Of the two KDE is the most like Windows XP, but is still unaccesible, and won't be accessible until KDE 4.0 which is still being developed from scratch. Gnome however is not bad, and is functionally usable, but there are still apps and parts of Gnome that don't work as well with Orca as they should. I do think as far as accessible games for Linux are needed now that the OS can be used successfully by a blind user, I have done it many times, but there is no commercial market to do so. I could probably write some cheap Java based games that are like Jim Kitchen games, but actually doing a STFC, Montezuma's Revenge, or Raceway for Linux would be very time consuming with little cash insentive. Søren Jensen wrote: Hi Josh. Is Ubuntu accessible for us? Please let me know of the list since this is off topic Best regards Søren. Mail MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] linux games for blind people Hi, Does anyone know if any of the linux infocom game interpreters will work either under linux ubuntu, or the console under ubuntu using speakup or orca? I would also want to keep xp on this machine to play games on there, because as far as I know I can't play stfc and games like that under any form of linux or in any linux distribution. or can I? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent skype: jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail
Re: [Audyssey] Linux Games.
Another tip I've read for grml is to use swspeak as a boot parameter. If the computer has a sound card grml can find and talk to properly be prepared for speech to also come out on the sound card. On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, shaun everiss wrote: never heard of this. Damn well wish I did. I ran from university fedora with speakup. The external fuzzing synth kept fuzzing failing. I had to bang the fizzer befor it would work for a few fizzing seconds. Really got me mad. I will back this file up. Depending on what I need to do to get grml working maybe all I need to do is script the stupid thing. At 03:03 PM 4/19/2006, you wrote: Hi, Use GRML. http://www.grml.org It has speakup as soon as you get it from the site. What you should do, is just make a boot CD of it, then install it to a hard drive (witch is easy or you can get help from your teacher, how ever, using speakup, it is possible to do it by your self). Then go to the accessible wiki page for GRML at http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=accessibility and do what it says to get speakup running when it is on the hard drive (yes, it is not as easy to get speakup to run the first time when it is on a hard drive, and you will need sited assistance for it(at least I did).). And, what is great is you don't need a hardware sinth. It is completely compatible with Debian Linux, because it is based on it. I love GRML, and have it right beside my Windows machine. What I thought was funny, was when I even upgraded from GRML 6 to GRML 7, I still did not have to restart Linux. Hahaha, just try to think of not restarting windows after a major update like that. Lol HTH. Check out the Blind Trek list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Write back soon Sean Mealin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf of Richard Bennett Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Linux Games. well I tried to get a screen reader for Linux, but have been unable to as of yet. The game programming class is being taught in Linux, but I am the only Windows machine in there. People have told me about different screen readers for Linux, but I am not advanced enough to get it up and running and my teacher has been working on compiling it and trying to get it to work, but has been unsuccessful as of yet, so I will be stuck on Windows. But with the game library that I will be using, it is compatible to run on both Windows and Linux systems. BEAN ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Linux Games.
Hey I will definitely check this out. I will be e-mailing this link to my teacher, so that maybe with both of us working on it, we can get it solved. Thanks so much. BEAN ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Linux Games.
Hi, Use GRML. http://www.grml.org It has speakup as soon as you get it from the site. What you should do, is just make a boot CD of it, then install it to a hard drive (witch is easy or you can get help from your teacher, how ever, using speakup, it is possible to do it by your self). Then go to the accessible wiki page for GRML at http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=accessibility and do what it says to get speakup running when it is on the hard drive (yes, it is not as easy to get speakup to run the first time when it is on a hard drive, and you will need sited assistance for it(at least I did).). And, what is great is you don't need a hardware sinth. It is completely compatible with Debian Linux, because it is based on it. I love GRML, and have it right beside my Windows machine. What I thought was funny, was when I even upgraded from GRML 6 to GRML 7, I still did not have to restart Linux. Hahaha, just try to think of not restarting windows after a major update like that. Lol HTH. Check out the Blind Trek list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Write back soon Sean Mealin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf of Richard Bennett Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Linux Games. well I tried to get a screen reader for Linux, but have been unable to as of yet. The game programming class is being taught in Linux, but I am the only Windows machine in there. People have told me about different screen readers for Linux, but I am not advanced enough to get it up and running and my teacher has been working on compiling it and trying to get it to work, but has been unsuccessful as of yet, so I will be stuck on Windows. But with the game library that I will be using, it is compatible to run on both Windows and Linux systems. BEAN ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
