Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
I think it is fine. Thanks. Angela from Italy Il 11/08/2013 17:33, Thomas Ward ha scritto: Hello everyone, As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason, continuously post false and misleading information that could be accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader. Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official. "Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to post is correct information. Incorrect information or advice on how to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or headaches unnecessarily. If a list member habitually posts obviously faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a warning. Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the list. This guideline is to insure that list members do get the correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what they read is from a reliable source." Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this to the official list rules and guidelines? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Hotel New Age, fronte mare Riccione, offerta agosto all inclusive in omaggio, servizio spiaggia, bevande ai pasti, accesso alla piscina in spiaggia. Per info 0541648492 Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=13023&d=11-8 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
I think this sounds very fair. Thanks. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 11:33 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines Hello everyone, As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason, continuously post false and misleading information that could be accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader. Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official. "Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to post is correct information. Incorrect information or advice on how to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or headaches unnecessarily. If a list member habitually posts obviously faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a warning. Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the list. This guideline is to insure that list members do get the correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what they read is from a reliable source." Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this to the official list rules and guidelines? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Hi, This seems entirely reasonable. Accuracy is important, and of course occasional misinformation might slip through, but a guideline like this is a good one. Best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:33 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hello everyone, > > As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines > certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to > be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things > that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason, > continuously post false and misleading information that could be > accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that > information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader. > Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the > rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official. > > "Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects > posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who > just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that > you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to > post is correct information. Incorrect information or advice on how > to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's > computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or > headaches unnecessarily. If a list member habitually posts obviously > faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a > warning. Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the > list. This guideline is to insure that list members do get the > correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what > they read is from a reliable source." > > Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this > to the official list rules and guidelines? > > Thanks. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Tom: Because 100 percent is the highest possible amount, I agree with this addition exactly 100 percent! It will, hopefully, stop all the phony baloney that is posted? Thanks. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:33 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines Hello everyone, As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason, continuously post false and misleading information that could be accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader. Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official. "Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to post is correct information. Incorrect information or advice on how to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or headaches unnecessarily. If a list member habitually posts obviously faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a warning. Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the list. This guideline is to insure that list members do get the correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what they read is from a reliable source." Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this to the official list rules and guidelines? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Yes thats sounds fine -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Christina Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:43 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines I think this sounds very fair. Thanks. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 11:33 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines Hello everyone, As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason, continuously post false and misleading information that could be accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader. Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official. "Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to post is correct information. Incorrect information or advice on how to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or headaches unnecessarily. If a list member habitually posts obviously faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a warning. Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the list. This guideline is to insure that list members do get the correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what they read is from a reliable source." Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this to the official list rules and guidelines? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
It sounds great to me, since if I don't know something, having to do with games, this is where I'll ask...Thanks, as always, for the answers On 8/11/13, wayne17a wrote: > Yes that’s sounds fine > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Christina > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:43 PM > To: 'Gamers Discussion list' > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines > > I think this sounds very fair. > Thanks. > Christina > > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 11:33 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines > > Hello everyone, > > As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines > certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to > be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things > that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason, > continuously post false and misleading information that could be > accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that > information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader. > Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the > rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official. > > "Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects > posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who > just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that > you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to > post is correct information. Incorrect information or advice on how > to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's > computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or > headaches unnecessarily. If a list member habitually posts obviously > faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a > warning. Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the > list. This guideline is to insure that list members do get the > correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what > they read is from a reliable source." > > Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this > to the official list rules and guidelines? > > Thanks. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Hi Charles, Smile. That's the basic idea. I really don't want people giving out bad advice that might be taken as fact by a list member, and it turns out to be bad advice. For instance, telling someone to format their hard drive and reinstall Windows just because they have a problem with a certain application or a game is extremely bad advice and such people who give out that kind of advice need to be moderated or removed from the list if they continually offer up such advice as the best solution to the problem at hand, nor is that the only example of poorly researched information over the last few months. Its merely the most recent and most destructive example that comes to mind. Cheers! On 8/11/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Tom: Because 100 percent is the highest possible amount, I agree with this > > addition exactly 100 percent! It will, hopefully, stop all the phony > baloney that is posted? Thanks. > > -- > If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling > errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Hi Zack and all, Well, to clarify things a bit, I am not so much concerned with occasional or accidental misinformation as I am when that information is patently false or just bad because the poster doesn't do his or her research on a given topic. I think we are all prone to a bit of misinformation from time to time like accidentally supplying the wrong web site or email address when asked, and there is no harm done to anyone. Its a mistake, and the poster can apologize and move on.. Its an entirely different situation when a poster tries to answer a question of which he or she obviously knows nothing about the subject being discussed and someone else who knows better has to go back and set the record straight. That kind of misinformation is just irritating, wastes everyone's time, and shouldn't be aloud to continue on list. Cheers! On 8/11/13, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi, > This seems entirely reasonable. Accuracy is important, and of course > occasional misinformation might slip through, but a guideline like this is a > good one. > Best, > Zack. > > Sent from my iPhone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Like the example of someone suggestion that you reformat your hard drive due to a modem issue. Someone might do it, even though it obviously would not solve the issue, and cause a lot of totally unnecessary wasted time and work. The suggestor obviously knew nothing about the issue, because a reformat is not always the answer. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines Hi Zack and all, Well, to clarify things a bit, I am not so much concerned with occasional or accidental misinformation as I am when that information is patently false or just bad because the poster doesn't do his or her research on a given topic. I think we are all prone to a bit of misinformation from time to time like accidentally supplying the wrong web site or email address when asked, and there is no harm done to anyone. Its a mistake, and the poster can apologize and move on.. Its an entirely different situation when a poster tries to answer a question of which he or she obviously knows nothing about the subject being discussed and someone else who knows better has to go back and set the record straight. That kind of misinformation is just irritating, wastes everyone's time, and shouldn't be aloud to continue on list. Cheers! On 8/11/13, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi, This seems entirely reasonable. Accuracy is important, and of course occasional misinformation might slip through, but a guideline like this is a good one. Best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
well we will be guided by the thomswa ward god, grin. Good onw Thomas i agree with you. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines Hi Charles, Smile. That's the basic idea. I really don't want people giving out bad advice that might be taken as fact by a list member, and it turns out to be bad advice. For instance, telling someone to format their hard drive and reinstall Windows just because they have a problem with a certain application or a game is extremely bad advice and such people who give out that kind of advice need to be moderated or removed from the list if they continually offer up such advice as the best solution to the problem at hand, nor is that the only example of poorly researched information over the last few months. Its merely the most recent and most destructive example that comes to mind. Cheers! On 8/11/13, Charles Rivard wrote: Tom: Because 100 percent is the highest possible amount, I agree with this addition exactly 100 percent! It will, hopefully, stop all the phony baloney that is posted? Thanks. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Hi Lisa, Ahem, I don't know if I should take that as high praise or chagrin. I am certainly no god, but it would be nice. :D On 8/12/13, Lisa Hayes wrote: > well we will be guided by the thomswa ward god, grin. Good onw Thomas i > agree with you. > Lisa Hayes > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Hi Charles, Well, that is a rather extreme example, but yes that is one possibility. A more practical example of misinformation we would like to avoid might include the incident a couple of days back where a list member mistakenly said BGT costs $700 when in reality it costs $399. Of course, that single mistake would only merit a correction and a warning from the moderators, but it is none-the-less a straight forward case of the list member not having checked to get his facts straight before stating so on list. This part is speculation, but what if someone who was considering buying that product took that misinformation to be correct and decided not to purchase BGT believing the $700 price tag? That simple mistake would have cost one of our developers some money because of some list member not verifying his facts. Not saying it did happen, but it could happen in theory. The basic idea here is that people should be more careful about stating things as fact if they aren't sure, and we want things to be as reliable as possible. Cheers! On 8/11/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Like the example of someone suggestion that you reformat your hard drive due > > to a modem issue. Someone might do it, even though it obviously would not > solve the issue, and cause a lot of totally unnecessary wasted time and > work. The suggestor obviously knew nothing about the issue, because a > reformat is not always the answer. > > -- > If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling > errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Hello there No it sounds fair to me. bfn James -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 11:33 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines Hello everyone, As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason, continuously post false and misleading information that could be accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader. Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official. "Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to post is correct information. Incorrect information or advice on how to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or headaches unnecessarily. If a list member habitually posts obviously faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a warning. Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the list. This guideline is to insure that list members do get the correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what they read is from a reliable source." Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this to the official list rules and guidelines? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
hI Charles Well that would be nice if this plan was full proof, but no plan is, but at least it will help to keep most of the bs down low. bfn James -- From: "Charles Rivard" Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:36 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines Tom: Because 100 percent is the highest possible amount, I agree with this addition exactly 100 percent! It will, hopefully, stop all the phony baloney that is posted? Thanks. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:33 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines Hello everyone, As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason, continuously post false and misleading information that could be accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader. Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official. "Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to post is correct information. Incorrect information or advice on how to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or headaches unnecessarily. If a list member habitually posts obviously faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a warning. Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the list. This guideline is to insure that list members do get the correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what they read is from a reliable source." Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this to the official list rules and guidelines? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Hello Thomas Well this is true to. One of my favorite types of discussions is the ones that no one knows how to fix the problem, but everyone trying to put their heads to gather and figuring it out. Bfn James -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:07 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines Hi Zack and all, Well, to clarify things a bit, I am not so much concerned with occasional or accidental misinformation as I am when that information is patently false or just bad because the poster doesn't do his or her research on a given topic. I think we are all prone to a bit of misinformation from time to time like accidentally supplying the wrong web site or email address when asked, and there is no harm done to anyone. Its a mistake, and the poster can apologize and move on.. Its an entirely different situation when a poster tries to answer a question of which he or she obviously knows nothing about the subject being discussed and someone else who knows better has to go back and set the record straight. That kind of misinformation is just irritating, wastes everyone's time, and shouldn't be aloud to continue on list. Cheers! On 8/11/13, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi, This seems entirely reasonable. Accuracy is important, and of course occasional misinformation might slip through, but a guideline like this is a good one. Best, Zack. Sent from my iPhone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
NO Thomas high praise indeed. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines Hi Lisa, Ahem, I don't know if I should take that as high praise or chagrin. I am certainly no god, but it would be nice. :D On 8/12/13, Lisa Hayes wrote: well we will be guided by the thomswa ward god, grin. Good onw Thomas i agree with you. Lisa Hayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Hi, from one fellow nazi to another, I say go for it. It's sad when there are constant wrong pieces of information posted about troubleshooting things, or obtaining games or hints, etc. -- Raul A. Gallegos I don't drink coffee. When I moved to California, I promised my mother that I wouldn't start doing drugs. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 8/11/2013 10:33 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello everyone, As much as I hate being a Nazi about the list rules and guidelines certain posts have forced me to conclude that the guidelines need to be amended to insure the accuracy and validity of some of the things that get posted to the list. Certain members, for whatever reason, continuously post false and misleading information that could be accepted by a list member who may not know any better and thus that information could become harmful and detrimental to the reader. Therefore I am proposing the following guideline to be added to the rules which we may modify and discuss before it becomes official. "Because we get new members who may or may not know about the subjects posted to the list, and this also may include longtime members who just don't know what is and is not correct, it is very important that you, if at all possible, research to verify that what you are about to post is correct information. Incorrect information or advice on how to fix a computer or game issue can cause damage to a list member's computer or corrupt a game, which can cost that member money and or headaches unnecessarily. If a list member habitually posts obviously faulty information due to a lack of research, they will receive a warning. Continuing the practice may result in a removal from the list. This guideline is to insure that list members do get the correct advice or help they need, and they will also know that what they read is from a reliable source." Any last minute thoughts, suggestions, or comments before I add this to the official list rules and guidelines? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Hi Raul, Yeah, I know. Especially, when it doesn't take that much work to research the problem using Google, Yahoo, etc. Some times it just comes down to experience. Something some so-called tecchs don't have when they consistently present bad advice. Cheers! On 8/13/13, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > Hi, from one fellow nazi to another, I say go for it. It's sad when > there are constant wrong pieces of information posted about > troubleshooting things, or obtaining games or hints, etc. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > I don't drink coffee. When I moved to California, I promised my mother > that I wouldn't start doing drugs. - Sheldon Cooper > Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
I didn't read the whole thread (only the start and the last few messages), but I'm personally all in favor. I would say though, that somebody who clearly states that their information is somewhat uncertain be at least partially exempt from the rule. If I offer advice, but make sure I inform the reader that I'm not certain of the accuracy of my statement, I personally feel that, while I shouldn't deliberately give misinformation, I have taken steps to ensure that I not mislead the reader. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward comes down to experience. Something some so-called tecchs don't have when they consistently present bad advice. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Updating the List Guidelines
Hi John, That's a given. Obviously someone who states they are not sure about something or makes some other qualification to the effect the information may not be accurate would not fall under this guideline because they told the person up front they were uncertain about the information's accuracy. What this guideline is being considered to do is to cut down on the kind of messages where by someone gives purely false information without stopping to consider the accuracy of the post he/she sends. Such as Mr. Format's sage advise to format a computer when he doesn't know the answer to a technical question thereby giving very bad advice to an unsuspecting end user and showing his ignorance to the rest of us who know better. :D Cheers! On 8/13/13, john wrote: > I didn't read the whole thread (only the start and the last few > messages), but I'm personally all in favor. I would say though, > that somebody who clearly states that their information is > somewhat uncertain be at least partially exempt from the rule. If > I offer advice, but make sure I inform the reader that I'm not > certain of the accuracy of my statement, I personally feel that, > while I shouldn't deliberately give misinformation, I have taken > steps to ensure that I not mislead the reader. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.