Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
Hi Phil. the chess set does indeed have the black squares higher, however where as previous tactile chess sets i've used have had a good colour scheme as well as the tactile features thus making them perfect to play with sighted players or for people with some degree of vision, I was rather disappointed with this latest model provided by the rnib, since it seems pretty silly to me to make a chess set that is so exclusively useable only for totally blind players and not for everyone else. I know others do exist and I might well have to buy one in the future, I was just quite narked with the Rnib over this particular stupidity. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
Hi Dark, About the blind UK design chess board being two shades of brown. A simple use of a black marker would give the black squares more contrast. The blind chess boards for sale here set the black squares a bit higher than the white so tactually you can tell the color by which is higher. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
OK, so much for the cartridge idea, but there are others. And I think the Hadley School sends material to countries other than the United States. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind Hi charls. The only problem with that is all of the library of congress stuff is only available in the us, indeed as I've commented before the situation of accessible books in the Uk is infinitely worse, I also do not know if the hadly school you mention would do courses over seas. This is actually one reason why when I played for the braile chess association over hear they were so concerned that very few junior players (under 21), were playing any sort of chess, since the opportunities to learn it just weren't there for visually impared kids either in terms of materials or anything else, and even with adults, only people who had played Chess before they went blind really joined the association. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
Hi tom. Unfortunately, it is due to the government's tendency to farm most everything out to the rnib, who have pretty one sided ideas on blind people and what they should be doing. while other agencies exist, it's the rnib that gets the big press and government funding. As to changing things, well with the way the government at the moment are pretty much privatizing everything and farming responsability out to charities, (most of which pretty much function as businesses as the Rnib does), it's unlikely there will be a change any time soon, indeed when i myself attempted to work for the Rnib on book selection I was ignored. anyone in the Uk I'd recommend to pretty much sort anything you want yourself. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
Hi charls. The only problem with that is all of the library of congress stuff is only available in the us, indeed as I've commented before the situation of accessible books in the Uk is infinitely worse, I also do not know if the hadly school you mention would do courses over seas. This is actually one reason why when I played for the braile chess association over hear they were so concerned that very few junior players (under 21), were playing any sort of chess, since the opportunities to learn it just weren't there for visually impared kids either in terms of materials or anything else, and even with adults, only people who had played Chess before they went blind really joined the association. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
Who sells these chess boards and men, what style, size, and materials are the pieces, and what is the cost? --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Gabriel Battaglia (Kriyaban)" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind Hello, we sale also accessible chessboards. Contact me privately if you interested. In order to learn how the squares and pieces are named, looking for those keywords on Google: Chess algebric notation. Bye, Gabriel. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
I recommend taking the correspondence courses from the Hadley School for the Blind. I believe the URL is www.hadley.edu With the course, "Chess For Beginners", you get all of the study materials in either braille, audio cassette, or on a cartridge for use in the Library of Congress digital Talking Book player. Also, you get a chess set adapted for blind players. After completing this 6 lesson course with a patient and knowledgeable instructor at your own learning pace, the study materials and chess set are yours to keep. And it is absolutely free of charge. Then you can move on to the course on "Tactics and Strategies". These 2 courses are actually a book written by a Grandmaster, adapted for study by blind people by Hadley. HTH., --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind Hi Kieth. Yes, that is true. The touch move rule, ie, you must play a peace you touch doesn't obviously apply if your blind. I recently bought a tactile chess set from the rnib but was really irritated with it, since the black and white squares are coloured more like light brown and slightly darker brown! This irritated me since it means not only can I not use any of my vision at all to considder the board as well as my tactile senses, but also it makes the set useless for playing against sighted people. This however is not the standard, and just a result of the rnib being their usual cruddy selves. As regards notation, well if you try any computer chess game such as BG chess challenge from spoonbill, or the two Kchess games they will also use it, so knowing about it might be helpfull generally. Basically the squares are numbered vertically from 1 to 8, with row 1 being where the white peaces start, and are lettered across the board from a to e. So the white rooks are on a1 and h1, the black rooks on a8 and h8, white king is on e1, the black king on e8 etc. You can then describe peaces by where they move, for instance the standard royal opay opening (sorry about spelling), is e2 e4, e7/e5, knight c3 etc. This is also how people can play postal chess, and describe the moves, indeed when I used to play in vi tournaments each person had their own board and would tell the other person the move, since it was easier than having two blind people trying to use the same board at the same time. Hth. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
If you like, there is this server which is very accessible and allows you to play against people from around the world via e-mail. Give it a try, it worths. www.e4ec.org My nick on it is Exylyan and I'm waiting for challenges. Gabriel. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
Hi Kieth. Yes, that is true. The touch move rule, ie, you must play a peace you touch doesn't obviously apply if your blind. I recently bought a tactile chess set from the rnib but was really irritated with it, since the black and white squares are coloured more like light brown and slightly darker brown! This irritated me since it means not only can I not use any of my vision at all to considder the board as well as my tactile senses, but also it makes the set useless for playing against sighted people. This however is not the standard, and just a result of the rnib being their usual cruddy selves. As regards notation, well if you try any computer chess game such as BG chess challenge from spoonbill, or the two Kchess games they will also use it, so knowing about it might be helpfull generally. Basically the squares are numbered vertically from 1 to 8, with row 1 being where the white peaces start, and are lettered across the board from a to e. So the white rooks are on a1 and h1, the black rooks on a8 and h8, white king is on e1, the black king on e8 etc. You can then describe peaces by where they move, for instance the standard royal opay opening (sorry about spelling), is e2 e4, e7/e5, knight c3 etc. This is also how people can play postal chess, and describe the moves, indeed when I used to play in vi tournaments each person had their own board and would tell the other person the move, since it was easier than having two blind people trying to use the same board at the same time. Hth. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
so I should just touch each piece on the board and figure out which is which before moving? Keith - Original Message - From: "Allen Maynard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind Hi, Keith, Maxiaids should have adaptive Chess boards and black pieces identified by points on the top of the pieces. Also each piece, black and white, has a post on their underside that fits into the hole in the center of each square. The black squares are raised about a fourth of an inch. www.maxiaids.com I believe the Chess set was $35 or $40 last time I purchased that board from them last year. Allen -Original Message- From: Keith Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind Hi everyone. My nephew (who is sighted) wants to play chess, but no one in the family knows how to play but me, but one small issue. I can't see. I know there is a way to use letters and numbers to note where pieces are, but I'm not sure on how to do that. Does anyone know of a site or book on tape/audio book_ that tells how to play as a b lind person? Thanks Keith --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
Hello, we sale also accessible chessboards. Contact me privately if you interested. In order to learn how the squares and pieces are named, looking for those keywords on Google: Chess algebric notation. Bye, Gabriel. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind
Hi, Keith, Maxiaids should have adaptive Chess boards and black pieces identified by points on the top of the pieces. Also each piece, black and white, has a post on their underside that fits into the hole in the center of each square. The black squares are raised about a fourth of an inch. www.maxiaids.com I believe the Chess set was $35 or $40 last time I purchased that board from them last year. Allen -Original Message- From: Keith Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] chesss for the blind Hi everyone. My nephew (who is sighted) wants to play chess, but no one in the family knows how to play but me, but one small issue. I can't see. I know there is a way to use letters and numbers to note where pieces are, but I'm not sure on how to do that. Does anyone know of a site or book on tape/audio book_ that tells how to play as a b lind person? Thanks Keith --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
