RE: [gatortalk] Confession is good for the soul.
yup! From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:33 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Confession is good for the soul. Already snowed in, aren't you Robert? A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain _ From: "Robert R. Williams, PLS" To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 10:11:30 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Confession is good for the soul. Leon wrote "Confession is good for the soul." An Irishman goes into the confessional box after years of being away from the Church. cid:C42431CC86A6483B9C35765156E2F36C@HeatherPC There's a fully equipped bar with Guinness on tap. On the other wall is a dazzling array of the finest cigars and chocolates. Then the priest comes in. "Father, forgive me, for it's been a very long time since I've been to confession, but I must first admit that the confessional box is much more inviting than it used to be." The priest replies: "Get out. You're on my side." -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<>
Re: Delivered: [gatortalk] F$U
I had the #5 and #6 cervical vertibrae cleaned out and fused about 3 years ago. Wish I'd done it years earlier. When I came out of surgerical recovery the pain I'd lived with for over 15 years was gone. It was an ordeal, but worth every moment of it. I had mine done by a neuro-surgeon who also did brain surgery and had pioneered much of the methodology at UF. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Oliver Barry To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 6:11:18 PM Subject: RE: Delivered: [gatortalk] F$U Yay!! Keep up the good work on the smoking. I wish you well with the neck pain. Sorry, I haven’t anything constructive to offer there. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd GallatinTN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:03 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Delivered: [gatortalk] F$U Smile! 2 months no smoking, yeah. Disk problems in the neck flaring up again. Worst pain ever. Anyone with experience with cervical disk issues please feel free to pm me. I’m leaning heavily toward surgery, but a bit scared of it as a last resort. Cee---you are one hell of a woman! I wanna party with you guys. From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:23 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Delivered: [gatortalk] F$U I knew after I sent that message that someone would have to comment, and I should have known it would be you, Jay. LOL. Cee - Original Message - >From:Jay Cicone >To:gatortalk@googlegroups.com >Sent:Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:08 AM >Subject:RE: Delivered: [gatortalk] F$U > >Darlene?? Really…hmmm > >From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On >Behalf Of Cecilia >Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:20 PM >To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Delivered: [gatortalk] F$U > >I got multiple ones from Oliver, Ken, Bill and Darlene. It must have been a >Blackberry conspiracy. ;-) > >Cee >-- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Confession is good for the soul.
Already snowed in, aren't you Robert? A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: "Robert R. Williams, PLS" To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 10:11:30 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Confession is good for the soul. Leon wrote "Confession is good for the soul." An Irishman goes into the confessional box after years of being away from the Church. There's a fully equipped bar with Guinness on tap. On the other wall is a dazzling array of the finest cigars and chocolates. Then the priest comes in. "Father, forgive me, for it's been a very long time since I've been to confession, but I must first admit that the confessional box is much more inviting than it used to be." The priest replies: "Get out. You're on my side." -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<>
[gatortalk] Confession is good for the soul.
Leon wrote "Confession is good for the soul." An Irishman goes into the confessional box after years of being away from the Church. cid:C42431CC86A6483B9C35765156E2F36C@HeatherPC There's a fully equipped bar with Guinness on tap. On the other wall is a dazzling array of the finest cigars and chocolates. Then the priest comes in. "Father, forgive me, for it's been a very long time since I've been to confession, but I must first admit that the confessional box is much more inviting than it used to be." The priest replies: "Get out. You're on my side." -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<>
Re: [gatortalk] Seminole ladies hoops website...causes controversy ...some think it's "inappropriate"
I didn't know 1/2 a$$ ewe had a College of Agriculture? When did that happen? If it does, and I doubt it, I'll bet it can't match up the to UF Institute of Food and Agricutural Sciences(IFAS) which is world-class. On the other hand, FAMU has a College of Agriculture. Of course, it's nowhere near the size or quality of UF's program. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Gatornet Admin To: "gatortalk@googlegroups.com" Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 2:18:12 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Seminole ladies hoops website...causes controversy ...some think it's "inappropriate" Something about f$u actively recruiting for their College of Clowns, and School of Agriculture. Randy Lyons Sent from my Sprint Palm Prē Oliver Barry wrote: Well, yes. Everyone knows that when UF and f$u became co-ed in the late ‘40s the beautiful women all went to UF. The ugly ones went to f$u, a tradition that continues to this day. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd GallatinTN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Badrish Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:29 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Seminole ladies hoops website...causes controversy...some think it's "inappropriate" I am assuming you are using the word ugly as in seminolesright? right? On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Oliver Barry wrote: I’d like to hate the semis as much as anyone, but I don’t really see anything “controversial” about this. Ugly girls in prom dresses are still ugly girls. What are they supposed to wear, sweat suits? Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd GallatinTN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:07 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Seminole ladies hoops website...causes controversy...some think it's "inappropriate" Innappropriate??? It’s something, alright! From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Badrish Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:01 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Seminole ladies hoops website...causes controversy...some think it's "inappropriate" http://seminolehoops.com/team1.shtml Web site for Florida State women's basketball team draws criticism -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE
Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by the SEC
Please remind me why? A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Gatornet Admin To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 7:32:46 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by the SEC Eh, don’t forget there ARE some Gators living in Tennessee. J Randy From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Belloit Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:12 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by the SEC Rob, Let me remind you that this is Tennessee that we are talking about! IQ over 60? Your expectations are too high! Jerry From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:46 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by the SEC Does anyone with an IQ over 60 (i.e. not a Vol football player) really believe that these hot college girls really drove 200 miles just to watch a couple of high school kids play football because that’s how they wanted to spend their Friday night? Give me a break! -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by the SEC
I'll bet she cheered for Bama. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Cecilia To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 4:52:11 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by the SEC Hell-OOO... she's a VOL! Cee - Original Message - >From: Ken Kirkley >To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:55 PM >Subject: RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by >the SEC > > >Someone needs to tell Lacey that the 1950’s just called and wants its hair >back… > > >From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >Of John Vega >Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:48 PM >To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by >the SEC > > >On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Helen Huntley wrote: > > > >I loved that Andy Staples took a photo of the two women in action and >didn't realize until later that he'd caught them in the act of violating the >rules. >http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/andy_staples/12/11/tennessee-recruiting/ > >Lacey Pearl Earps, now that's a name! > >-Zeb > -- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators feeling sting of Strong's exit in recruiting [Aschoff]
His post-cognition must be failing him. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Steve McKibben To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 8:33:37 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators feeling sting of Strong's exit in recruiting [Aschoff] I'm pretty certain that the author of this column could find out the name of Charlie's predecessor by perusing our old media guides. His successor, however, is a different story... With him gone — and no predecessor named — Florida could feel a bit of a sting in recruiting on the defensive side of the ball. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] [FWD: RE: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: FYI (Spurrier) --- South Carolina's Spurrier gets extra year on contract [Associated Press]]
Don't fool yourself. He's shooting for the SEC East Championship next year. Cocky-doodle-doo! A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: "ke...@baldwinnc.com" To: gatortalk googlegroups Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 8:39:29 AM Subject: [gatortalk] [FWD: RE: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: FYI (Spurrier) --- South Carolina's Spurrier gets extra year on contract [Associated Press]] Poor ol SOS. South Carolina is a lot for an ol ball coach to have to go through year after year. (ask Lou Holtz). > >He should retire to gainesville and sit on his throne in the president's box. > > > Original Message >>Subject: [gatornews] [SUN / A.P.]: FYI (Spurrier) --- South Carolina's >>Spurrier gets extra year on contract [Associated Press] >>From: Shane Ford >>Date: Tue, December 15, 2009 8:32 am >>To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com >> >> >>South Carolina's Spurrier gets extra year on contract >> >>The Associated Press >>Published: Monday, December 14, 2009 at 3:52 p.m. >>Last Modified: Monday, December 14, 2009 at 3:52 p.m. >> >>COLUMBIA, S.C. — South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier has been given another >>year to build the Gamecocks football program. >>The university's Board of Trustees approved a one-year contract extension for >>Spurrier on Monday, taking him through the 2013 season. His salary will >>remain $1.75 million. >>The Gamecocks went 7-5 this season and begin practice Tuesday to play >>Connecticut in the PapaJohns.com Bowl on Jan. 2 in Birmingham, Ala. >>Spurrier says upcoming recruits and the young core of players currently on >>the team can help him finally achieve his goal of getting South Carolina to >>the SEC title game for the first time. >>Spurrier is 35-27 in five season with the Gamecocks after going 142-40-2 in >>15 seasons with Duke and Florida. >> -- >>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>2008 National Football Champions | >>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Heisman, Tebow...
Yes, Helen. When your hairstyle gets down to one hair in search of a friend, it's time to let go. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Helen Huntley To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:37:00 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Heisman, Tebow... Speaking of Danny- Did you notice when they showed him at the Heisman ceremony, that he's shaved his head? I guess he'd lost so much hair that he finally gave up. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM, John Vega wrote: > >On Dec 13, 2009, at 10:59 AM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote: > >That's exactly right! Why, I can only think of 3 players who actually >deserved it when they received it. > >Oddly enough, I think that Tebow didn't deserve it when he won it; and didn't >win it (last year) when he did deserve it. > > >Three years ago, our team finished something like 8-5. Ick. At the same time >there was a QB who led the nation in passing efficiency and whose team was >11-1 or thereabouts. Yet it goes to Tebow. > > >Last year, Tebow was at or near the top of the nation in passing efficiency >and our teams goes 11-1 and then wins the NC. Yet, he doesn't win the Heisman. >Plus the Promise, and the leadership displayed during the FSU game. > > >Now Danny in 96; he deserved it. > > >-Zeb > >-- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game
You're right! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Arthur Polhill Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:31:46 To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game We should be PROUD! Spurrier taught us that. The better you are, the more they hate you. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: "oli...@bobparks.com" To: Gator Talk Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 8:28:53 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game Quite a lot, believe it or not. They would actually cheer for their mortal enemy against the Gators! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Arthur Polhill Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:09:34 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game How many cheered for Bammy against UF? A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Oliver Barry To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 6:27:01 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game Yes, I’ve been getting all this stuff from Tennessee fans. Of course they have Volzheimers they forgot they lost to Florida and Bammy. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd GallatinTN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of gatorrr...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:25 PM To: Gatortalk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game A Bama fan at work sent me this one... and has sent me a new one everyday since they won until yesterday when she came by my desk smiling and asked if i saw it...and I said "yes... Ill just remember this the next time someone tell me that Gator fans are the worst" Hmmm nope.. no pic sent today. On Dec 16, 2009 5:42pm, Oliver Barry < oli...@bobparks.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember, don’t shoot me, I’m > only the messenger. J > > It kinda looks like LSU Freak’s > work. Royal blankies on a gold sofa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.110/2568 - Release Date: 12/16/09 > 08:02:00 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > > 2008 National Football Champions | > > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football
Re: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
I'd appreciate six signed copies. Thanks, A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Jay Cicone To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 12:43:34 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout You can send it to me. Thanks. From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:39 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Where do you go on Gatorcountry to find Naphta’s 2nd post? Jerry? Steve? I can’t seem to locate it. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:03 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout As someone who read Naphta's original post when it came out, I contend that a lot of what we've seen from other various sources refer to the info that he brought to the table first, not the other way around. Some of it sounds rather dramatic, as was taken even further in that direction by a number of posters, and he has clarified what he meant, and even provided updates that indicate that it wasn't as dire as it can be interpreted to be. The new post, that I haven't been able to read yet (no flash at work!) is supposed to show the other side of the coin. IMHO, FWIW. --- On Wed, 12/16/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I agree that most everything in the original article can be found in different public sources. Just sort of put together differently. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
It sounded like a pile of do-do to me. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Oliver Barry To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 11:19:05 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Distracted juniors? With a handful of juniors considering the draft, questions arose about some being more focused on that than Alabama . Tebow said he didn't think that was the case in Atlanta . "If they did, it's not part of the team that I'm a part of," he said. Nelson said "a good amount" of juniors have submitted paperwork to the NFL to get draft feedback. I cut this out of the Gonzalez Leaving article from this morning. Um, it was in the Gainesville Sun, no worry about them getting angry about our using it. It paints a completely different picture than what “Napha” is painting. I guess Napha has lots of reasons for their posts not being made public. Really, there’s a lot of crap on Gatorcountry that turns out to be nothing more than rumor. This is beginning to appear thusly. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd GallatinTN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jerry Belloit Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:47 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Keith, Napha is rather particular about having his posts made public. Today he posted part II but did it in a flash format so that it would be more difficult to post without his permission. He actually made some comments about the posting things in this morning’s post. Jerry From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:35 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout What? What Post? I heard nothing! Nothing! (as sergeant shultz would say) Original Message >Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate >Fallout >From: Jerry Belloit >Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:16 am >To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >This was not appropriately posted from GatorCountry. It was not supposed to >be public. > >Jerry > > -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
Confession is good for the soul. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Jerry Belloit To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:16:17 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout This was not appropriately posted from GatorCountry. It was not supposed to be public. Jerry From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:40 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Fascinating stuff from Larry Vito Randy Not sure who authored this, but it is most certainly an interesting read. Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout -Part 1 The Gators. Some of this is dual source and some multiple source. None is single source. But remember, this is hearsay info, in that it was not related to me by participants, but by those who know and interact with the participants. Some is my opinion or conjecture, but not without a great deal of substantiation, or I would not put my name on it. There not a lot of sweetness and light in this post, but it's darkest just before the dawn and my next post will provide some positive developments. 1) There was a clique of players that were not serious about preparation, and it was a core group that we are not used to thinking of in this way. They are players we are accustomed to being serious-minded and to handling their affairs in a mature way. This did not happen. There was a large scale emotional/mental breakdown of discipline on the part of several players that caused a rising lack of focus beginning with preparation for FSU, and continuing through SECCG prep. 2) From a source close to the team: word spreads among teams and coaches in the SEC faster than it does in public via the media, and Bama's staff and players knew that many key UF players were not taking preparation seriously, but were on the other hand focused on their own and not the team's wellbeing. While it can't be proven, someone whom I trust stated that several key players "lost their hunger to be champions" when they began to get within sight of the NFL, and were listening to some very bad advice. TT (the ultimate competitor) was, in fact, livid at these kids with divided loyalties, and his anger erupted (as much as it ever could with him) in the locker room confronting the commitment of these players to winning (pre-SECCG). During the game he was pressing to make up for their lack of intensity, effort. That group of players is likely gone (to a man). We may see the return of one D star who lost his focus simply because his draft value is now questioned. The team came out of the tunnel looking flat because a lot of this stuff erupted on the trip to the game site and in the hotel. The team looked flat because it WAS flat. Division and mutual suspicion doomed them before kickoff. I was told by one source that he'd "never seen Tim so angry at other players." 3) I was told that there was a players meeting among some of these core contributors prior to the FSU game discussing NFL prospects and determining the list of who would be coming out and who wouldn't. A "core group" of players determined that they would all come out together. It was determined in this meeting that some kids would be minimizing their risks in the coming games. Some were offensive and some were defensive players. The impact of the looming rookie salary cap had a huge effect on the mentality of some players. The coaches were aware of some of this, but not the full extent, and there is only so much you can do even if you know, short of benching starters. Some of these were absolutely critical players we were counting on to come through, and simply quit on the team. 4) Urban is glad for the coming cap and hopes it has some teeth, because he is bitter about UF’s player attrition and feels that the NFL is harming his program inordinately. UF is on national TV every day (playing or not), and the NFL buzz starts very early here (yes, earlier than elsewhere where the media glare is less intense). He is a realist and understands that the NFL is a draw/dream for a lot of these kids who grew up with making it to the league as their goal, but feels that the inordinately high 1st round money is damaging college football, and particularly damaging the teams that are more in the media glare. He feels that with the cap, kids will likely be making more conservative decisions on coming out early, as there will be less lure in an attempt to make that one, big life-changing score –missing out on the full college experience and damaging the team with divided commitment. 5) Urban has had a difficult time this year keepin
Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game
We should be PROUD! Spurrier taught us that. The better you are, the more they hate you. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: "oli...@bobparks.com" To: Gator Talk Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 8:28:53 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game Quite a lot, believe it or not. They would actually cheer for their mortal enemy against the Gators! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Arthur Polhill Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:09:34 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game How many cheered for Bammy against UF? A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Oliver Barry To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 6:27:01 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game Yes, I’ve been getting all this stuff from Tennessee fans. Of course they have Volzheimers they forgot they lost to Florida and Bammy. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd GallatinTN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of gatorrr...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:25 PM To: Gatortalk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game A Bama fan at work sent me this one... and has sent me a new one everyday since they won until yesterday when she came by my desk smiling and asked if i saw it...and I said "yes... Ill just remember this the next time someone tell me that Gator fans are the worst" Hmmm nope.. no pic sent today. On Dec 16, 2009 5:42pm, Oliver Barry < oli...@bobparks.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember, don’t shoot me, I’m > only the messenger. J > > It kinda looks like LSU Freak’s > work. Royal blankies on a gold sofa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.110/2568 - Release Date: 12/16/09 > 08:02:00 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > > 2008 National Football Champions | > > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game
Quite a lot, believe it or not. They would actually cheer for their mortal enemy against the Gators! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Arthur Polhill Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:09:34 To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game How many cheered for Bammy against UF? A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Oliver Barry To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 6:27:01 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game Yes, I’ve been getting all this stuff from Tennessee fans. Of course they have Volzheimers they forgot they lost to Florida and Bammy. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd GallatinTN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of gatorrr...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:25 PM To: Gatortalk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game A Bama fan at work sent me this one... and has sent me a new one everyday since they won until yesterday when she came by my desk smiling and asked if i saw it...and I said "yes... Ill just remember this the next time someone tell me that Gator fans are the worst" Hmmm nope.. no pic sent today. On Dec 16, 2009 5:42pm, Oliver Barry < oli...@bobparks.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember, don’t shoot me, I’m > only the messenger. J > > It kinda looks like LSU Freak’s > work. Royal blankies on a gold sofa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.110/2568 - Release Date: 12/16/09 > 08:02:00 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > > 2008 National Football Champions | > > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game
How many cheered for Bammy against UF? A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Oliver Barry To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 6:27:01 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game Yes, I’ve been getting all this stuff from Tennessee fans. Of course they have Volzheimers they forgot they lost to Florida and Bammy. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd GallatinTN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of gatorrr...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:25 PM To: Gatortalk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game A Bama fan at work sent me this one... and has sent me a new one everyday since they won until yesterday when she came by my desk smiling and asked if i saw it...and I said "yes... Ill just remember this the next time someone tell me that Gator fans are the worst" Hmmm nope.. no pic sent today. On Dec 16, 2009 5:42pm, Oliver Barry < oli...@bobparks.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember, don’t shoot me, I’m > only the messenger. J > > It kinda looks like LSU Freak’s > work. Royal blankies on a gold sofa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.110/2568 - Release Date: 12/16/09 > 08:02:00 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > > 2008 National Football Champions | > > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game
Yes, I've been getting all this stuff from Tennessee fans. Of course they have Volzheimers they forgot they lost to Florida and Bammy. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gatorrr...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:25 PM To: Gatortalk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game A Bama fan at work sent me this one... and has sent me a new one everyday since they won until yesterday when she came by my desk smiling and asked if i saw it...and I said "yes... Ill just remember this the next time someone tell me that Gator fans are the worst" Hmmm nope.. no pic sent today. On Dec 16, 2009 5:42pm, Oliver Barry wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember, don't shoot me, I'm > only the messenger. J > > It kinda looks like LSU Freak's > work. Royal blankies on a gold sofa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.110/2568 - Release Date: 12/16/09 08:02:00 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > > 2008 National Football Champions | > > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game
A Bama fan at work sent me this one... and has sent me a new one everyday since they won until yesterday when she came by my desk smiling and asked if i saw it...and I said "yes... Ill just remember this the next time someone tell me that Gator fans are the worst" Hmmm nope.. no pic sent today. On Dec 16, 2009 5:42pm, Oliver Barry wrote: > Remember, don't shoot me, I'm > only the messenger. J > It kinda looks like LSU Freak's > work. Royal blankies on a gold sofa. > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.110/2568 - Release Date: > 12/16/09 08:02:00 > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel > (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
[gatortalk] After the SEC Championship Game
Remember, don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger. :-) It kinda looks like LSU Freak's work. Royal blankies on a gold sofa. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.110/2568 - Release Date: 12/16/09 08:02:00 -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<>
RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
Insider information is like Opinions which are like (well you know). GatorCountry says this. Other sites have insider information that says they are all wrong. Third insider says the sky is not falling. Bottom line is - there are 85 scholarship players plus I don't know how many walkons - times all their parents, step parents, siblings, grand parents, other relatives, old coaches, etc. Plus what other teams and coaches are saying. Coaches are leaving and coming Plus all the recruits. Plus all the local and national talking heads Plus the NFL - what Gators in the NFL are saying, what draft experts are saying, what players are going the draft, what juniors may jump into the draft Plus all the internet and message board rumors. That's a lot of crap when it all hits the fan. Lose for the first time in like 23 games - and it cakes up all over the fan. There are a million different "insider" views of what is going on. Everyone - except for me - seems to have an insider view. I think Meyer will clean off the fan, turn it back on, and we'll be fine. Can't wait to see what Brantley will do. Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the ImmediateFalloutFrom: "Oliver Barry" Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 2:33 pmTo: Who? Oh, you mean you non-subscribing cheap skates? J Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BadrishSent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:39 PMTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout What is this...a Gatorcountry-find-your-way forum?Next time, please post such questions on Gatorcountry itself and spare us non-subscribing frugals ;-) On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM,wrote: Found it, thanks. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Steve McKibben Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:44:35 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Gator Country Insider Bullgator Den Where do you go on Gatorcountry to find Naphta’s 2nd post? Jerry? Steve? I can’t seem to locate it. Oliver Barry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
Who? Oh, you mean you non-subscribing cheap skates? :-) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Badrish Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:39 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout What is this...a Gatorcountry-find-your-way forum? Next time, please post such questions on Gatorcountry itself and spare us non-subscribing frugals ;-) On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM, wrote: Found it, thanks. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _ From: Steve McKibben Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:44:35 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Gator Country Insider Bullgator Den Where do you go on Gatorcountry to find Naphta's 2nd post? Jerry? Steve? I can't seem to locate it. Oliver Barry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
What is this...a Gatorcountry-find-your-way forum? Next time, please post such questions on Gatorcountry itself and spare us non-subscribing frugals ;-) On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM, wrote: > Found it, thanks. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > -- > *From: * Steve McKibben > *Date: *Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:44:35 -0800 (PST) > *To: * > *Subject: *RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate > Fallout > > Gator Country Insider Bullgator Den > > > Where do you go on Gatorcountry to find Naphta’s 2nd post? Jerry? > Steve? I can’t seem to locate it. > > > > Oliver Barry > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
Found it, thanks. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Steve McKibben Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:44:35 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Gator Country Insider Bullgator Den Where do you go on Gatorcountry to find Naphta’s 2nd post? Jerry? Steve? I can’t seem to locate it. Oliver Barry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
Gator Country Insider Bullgator Den Where do you go on Gatorcountry to find Naphta’s 2nd post? Jerry? Steve? I can’t seem to locate it. Oliver Barry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
You can send it to me. Thanks. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:39 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Where do you go on Gatorcountry to find Naphta's 2nd post? Jerry? Steve? I can't seem to locate it. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:03 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout As someone who read Naphta's original post when it came out, I contend that a lot of what we've seen from other various sources refer to the info that he brought to the table first, not the other way around. Some of it sounds rather dramatic, as was taken even further in that direction by a number of posters, and he has clarified what he meant, and even provided updates that indicate that it wasn't as dire as it can be interpreted to be. The new post, that I haven't been able to read yet (no flash at work!) is supposed to show the other side of the coin. IMHO, FWIW. --- On Wed, 12/16/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I agree that most everything in the original article can be found in different public sources. Just sort of put together differently. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
Where do you go on Gatorcountry to find Naphta's 2nd post? Jerry? Steve? I can't seem to locate it. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:03 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout As someone who read Naphta's original post when it came out, I contend that a lot of what we've seen from other various sources refer to the info that he brought to the table first, not the other way around. Some of it sounds rather dramatic, as was taken even further in that direction by a number of posters, and he has clarified what he meant, and even provided updates that indicate that it wasn't as dire as it can be interpreted to be. The new post, that I haven't been able to read yet (no flash at work!) is supposed to show the other side of the coin. IMHO, FWIW. --- On Wed, 12/16/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I agree that most everything in the original article can be found in different public sources. Just sort of put together differently. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
As someone who read Naphta's original post when it came out, I contend that a lot of what we've seen from other various sources refer to the info that he brought to the table first, not the other way around. Some of it sounds rather dramatic, as was taken even further in that direction by a number of posters, and he has clarified what he meant, and even provided updates that indicate that it wasn't as dire as it can be interpreted to be. The new post, that I haven't been able to read yet (no flash at work!) is supposed to show the other side of the coin. IMHO, FWIW. --- On Wed, 12/16/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I agree that most everything in the original article can be found in different public sources. Just sort of put together differently. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
Plain old plagiarism. Cite your sources. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:38 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout I agree that most everything in the original article can be found in different public sources. Just sort of put together differently. Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 11:19 am To: Distracted juniors? With a handful of juniors considering the draft, questions arose about some being more focused on that than Alabama. Tebow said he didn't think that was the case in Atlanta. "If they did, it's not part of the team that I'm a part of," he said. Nelson said "a good amount" of juniors have submitted paperwork to the NFL to get draft feedback. I cut this out of the Gonzalez Leaving article from this morning. Um, it was in the Gainesville Sun, no worry about them getting angry about our using it. It paints a completely different picture than what "Napha" is painting. I guess Napha has lots of reasons for their posts not being made public. Really, there's a lot of crap on Gatorcountry that turns out to be nothing more than rumor. This is beginning to appear thusly. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Belloit Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:47 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Keith, Napha is rather particular about having his posts made public. Today he posted part II but did it in a flash format so that it would be more difficult to post without his permission. He actually made some comments about the posting things in this morning's post. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:35 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout What? What Post? I heard nothing! Nothing! (as sergeant shultz would say) Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout From: Jerry Belloit Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:16 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com This was not appropriately posted from GatorCountry. It was not supposed to be public. Jerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet
RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
I agree that most everything in the original article can be found in different public sources. Just sort of put together differently. Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the ImmediateFalloutFrom: "Oliver Barry" Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 11:19 amTo: Distracted juniors? With a handful of juniors considering the draft, questions arose about some being more focused on that than Alabama. Tebow said he didn't think that was the case in Atlanta. "If they did, it's not part of the team that I'm a part of," he said. Nelson said "a good amount" of juniors have submitted paperwork to the NFL to get draft feedback. I cut this out of the Gonzalez Leaving article from this morning. Um, it was in the Gainesville Sun, no worry about them getting angry about our using it. It paints a completely different picture than what “Napha” is painting. I guess Napha has lots of reasons for their posts not being made public. Really, there’s a lot of crap on Gatorcountry that turns out to be nothing more than rumor. This is beginning to appear thusly. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry BelloitSent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:47 AMTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Keith, Napha is rather particular about having his posts made public. Today he posted part II but did it in a flash format so that it would be more difficult to post without his permission. He actually made some comments about the posting things in this morning’s post. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.comSent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:35 AMTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout What? What Post? I heard nothing! Nothing! (as sergeant shultz would say) Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the ImmediateFalloutFrom: Jerry Belloit Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:16 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com This was not appropriately posted from GatorCountry. It was not supposed to be public. Jerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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His posts are usually rather detailed and on point. I like his work. I am not sure who he is but I have written to find out if it is who I think. His second post today was very good if you subscribe to GatorCountry. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:53 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout >From what I understand - Napha is either loved or hated. Never met the guy (or girl) but have heard a lot about them - third hand or so. I guess people on GatorCountry love him and people on other pay sites hate him? Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout From: Jerry Belloit Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 10:47 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith, Napha is rather particular about having his posts made public. Today he posted part II but did it in a flash format so that it would be more difficult to post without his permission. He actually made some comments about the posting things in this morning's post. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:35 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout What? What Post? I heard nothing! Nothing! (as sergeant shultz would say) Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout From: Jerry Belloit Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:16 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com This was not appropriately posted from GatorCountry. It was not supposed to be public. Jerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
Distracted juniors? With a handful of juniors considering the draft, questions arose about some being more focused on that than Alabama. Tebow said he didn't think that was the case in Atlanta. "If they did, it's not part of the team that I'm a part of," he said. Nelson said "a good amount" of juniors have submitted paperwork to the NFL to get draft feedback. I cut this out of the Gonzalez Leaving article from this morning. Um, it was in the Gainesville Sun, no worry about them getting angry about our using it. It paints a completely different picture than what "Napha" is painting. I guess Napha has lots of reasons for their posts not being made public. Really, there's a lot of crap on Gatorcountry that turns out to be nothing more than rumor. This is beginning to appear thusly. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Belloit Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:47 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Keith, Napha is rather particular about having his posts made public. Today he posted part II but did it in a flash format so that it would be more difficult to post without his permission. He actually made some comments about the posting things in this morning's post. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:35 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout What? What Post? I heard nothing! Nothing! (as sergeant shultz would say) Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout From: Jerry Belloit Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:16 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com This was not appropriately posted from GatorCountry. It was not supposed to be public. Jerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
From what I understand - Napha is either loved or hated. Never met the guy (or girl) but have heard a lot about them - third hand or so. I guess people on GatorCountry love him and people on other pay sites hate him? Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the ImmediateFalloutFrom: Jerry Belloit Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 10:47 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith, Napha is rather particular about having his posts made public. Today he posted part II but did it in a flash format so that it would be more difficult to post without his permission. He actually made some comments about the posting things in this morning’s post. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.comSent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:35 AMTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout What? What Post? I heard nothing! Nothing! (as sergeant shultz would say) Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the ImmediateFalloutFrom: Jerry Belloit Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:16 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com This was not appropriately posted from GatorCountry. It was not supposed to be public. Jerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Keith, Napha is rather particular about having his posts made public. Today he posted part II but did it in a flash format so that it would be more difficult to post without his permission. He actually made some comments about the posting things in this morning's post. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:35 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout What? What Post? I heard nothing! Nothing! (as sergeant shultz would say) Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout From: Jerry Belloit Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:16 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com This was not appropriately posted from GatorCountry. It was not supposed to be public. Jerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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Apparently it was made public by the original poster. From what I understand, he is not a GC employee and just because he posted it on GC does not mean he can't post it anywhere else. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Belloit Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:16 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout This was not appropriately posted from GatorCountry. It was not supposed to be public. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:40 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Fascinating stuff from Larry Vito Randy _ Not sure who authored this, but it is most certainly an interesting read. Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout -Part 1 The Gators. Some of this is dual source and some multiple source. None is single source. But remember, this is hearsay info, in that it was not related to me by participants, but by those who know and interact with the participants. Some is my opinion or conjecture, but not without a great deal of substantiation, or I would not put my name on it. There not a lot of sweetness and light in this post, but it's darkest just before the dawn and my next post will provide some positive developments. 1) There was a clique of players that were not serious about preparation, and it was a core group that we are not used to thinking of in this way. They are players we are accustomed to being serious-minded and to handling their affairs in a mature way. This did not happen. There was a large scale emotional/mental breakdown of discipline on the part of several players that caused a rising lack of focus beginning with preparation for FSU, and continuing through SECCG prep. 2) From a source close to the team: word spreads among teams and coaches in the SEC faster than it does in public via the media, and Bama's staff and players knew that many key UF players were not taking preparation seriously, but were on the other hand focused on their own and not the team's wellbeing. While it can't be proven, someone whom I trust stated that several key players "lost their hunger to be champions" when they began to get within sight of the NFL, and were listening to some very bad advice. TT (the ultimate competitor) was, in fact, livid at these kids with divided loyalties, and his anger erupted (as much as it ever could with him) in the locker room confronting the commitment of these players to winning (pre-SECCG). During the game he was pressing to make up for their lack of intensity, effort. That group of players is likely gone (to a man). We may see the return of one D star who lost his focus simply because his draft value is now questioned. The team came out of the tunnel looking flat because a lot of this stuff erupted on the trip to the game site and in the hotel. The team looked flat because it WAS flat. Division and mutual suspicion doomed them before kickoff. I was told by one source that he'd "never seen Tim so angry at other players." 3) I was told that there was a players meeting among some of these core contributors prior to the FSU game discussing NFL prospects and determining the list of who would be coming out and who wouldn't. A "core group" of players determined that they would all come out together. It was determined in this meeting that some kids would be minimizing their risks in the coming games. Some were offensive and some were defensive players. The impact of the looming rookie salary cap had a huge effect on the mentality of some players. The coaches were aware of some of this, but not the full extent, and there is only so much you can do even if you know, short of benching starters. Some of these were absolutely critical players we were counting on to come through, and simply quit on the team. 4) Urban is glad for the coming cap and hopes it has some teeth, because he is bitter about UF's player attrition and feels that the NFL is harming his program inordinately. UF is on national TV every day (playing or not), and the NFL buzz starts very early here (yes, earlier than elsewhere where the media glare is less intense). He is a realist and understands that the NFL is a draw/dream for a lot of these kids who grew up with making it to the league as their goal, but feels that the inordinately high 1st round money is damaging college football, and particularly damaging the teams that are more in the media glare. He feels that with the cap, kids will likely be making more conservative decisions on coming out early, as there will be less lure in an attempt to make that one, big life-changing score -missing out on the full college experience and damaging the team with divided commitment. 5) Urban has had a difficult time this yea
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On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:59 AM, wrote: > I wonder if "core group" could mean Lakeland players? > > I have also heard that some players will try to go pro - that > really have no business doing so. I recall Ahmad Black's dad being pretty unhappy recently; claiming his son would leave for the NFL because he was "disrespected" by the coaches. As an aside, I'm still of the school that holds that disrespect is a noun, not a verb. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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What? What Post? I heard nothing! Nothing! (as sergeant shultz would say) Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the ImmediateFalloutFrom: Jerry Belloit Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:16 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com This was not appropriately posted from GatorCountry. It was not supposed to be public. Jerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
This was not appropriately posted from GatorCountry. It was not supposed to be public. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:40 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout Fascinating stuff from Larry Vito Randy _ Not sure who authored this, but it is most certainly an interesting read. Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout -Part 1 The Gators. Some of this is dual source and some multiple source. None is single source. But remember, this is hearsay info, in that it was not related to me by participants, but by those who know and interact with the participants. Some is my opinion or conjecture, but not without a great deal of substantiation, or I would not put my name on it. There not a lot of sweetness and light in this post, but it's darkest just before the dawn and my next post will provide some positive developments. 1) There was a clique of players that were not serious about preparation, and it was a core group that we are not used to thinking of in this way. They are players we are accustomed to being serious-minded and to handling their affairs in a mature way. This did not happen. There was a large scale emotional/mental breakdown of discipline on the part of several players that caused a rising lack of focus beginning with preparation for FSU, and continuing through SECCG prep. 2) From a source close to the team: word spreads among teams and coaches in the SEC faster than it does in public via the media, and Bama's staff and players knew that many key UF players were not taking preparation seriously, but were on the other hand focused on their own and not the team's wellbeing. While it can't be proven, someone whom I trust stated that several key players "lost their hunger to be champions" when they began to get within sight of the NFL, and were listening to some very bad advice. TT (the ultimate competitor) was, in fact, livid at these kids with divided loyalties, and his anger erupted (as much as it ever could with him) in the locker room confronting the commitment of these players to winning (pre-SECCG). During the game he was pressing to make up for their lack of intensity, effort. That group of players is likely gone (to a man). We may see the return of one D star who lost his focus simply because his draft value is now questioned. The team came out of the tunnel looking flat because a lot of this stuff erupted on the trip to the game site and in the hotel. The team looked flat because it WAS flat. Division and mutual suspicion doomed them before kickoff. I was told by one source that he'd "never seen Tim so angry at other players." 3) I was told that there was a players meeting among some of these core contributors prior to the FSU game discussing NFL prospects and determining the list of who would be coming out and who wouldn't. A "core group" of players determined that they would all come out together. It was determined in this meeting that some kids would be minimizing their risks in the coming games. Some were offensive and some were defensive players. The impact of the looming rookie salary cap had a huge effect on the mentality of some players. The coaches were aware of some of this, but not the full extent, and there is only so much you can do even if you know, short of benching starters. Some of these were absolutely critical players we were counting on to come through, and simply quit on the team. 4) Urban is glad for the coming cap and hopes it has some teeth, because he is bitter about UF's player attrition and feels that the NFL is harming his program inordinately. UF is on national TV every day (playing or not), and the NFL buzz starts very early here (yes, earlier than elsewhere where the media glare is less intense). He is a realist and understands that the NFL is a draw/dream for a lot of these kids who grew up with making it to the league as their goal, but feels that the inordinately high 1st round money is damaging college football, and particularly damaging the teams that are more in the media glare. He feels that with the cap, kids will likely be making more conservative decisions on coming out early, as there will be less lure in an attempt to make that one, big life-changing score -missing out on the full college experience and damaging the team with divided commitment. 5) Urban has had a difficult time this year keeping the mentality of the team managed. There have been some divisive parents (which always happens when you have as much talent as we do). Complaint about playing time, and locker room jockeying/division. Sometimes when you have players for as long as some have been here, and they are of a certain background/mentality, you lose them at the end. We had a star player we "lost" at the end of the year last year. Sometime
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I am not an insider - but have read many of the insider reports. I would say that much of this is found in many of the insider reports - so I would say that this document is a credible as the others. remember though - 10 different people can watch the same game, group, event, etc - and see ten different things. So just because one little detail may not be viewed the exact same way - does not mean - the whole is not true. I wonder if "core group" could mean Lakeland players? I have also heard that some players will try to go pro - that really have no business doing so. Ryan Smith was the guy I was thinking about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Smith_(American_football) had this guy stuck around for another season - he could have been a star in the NFL. Instead - I doubt anyone knows what this guy is doing now? Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the ImmediateFalloutFrom: "Gatornet Admin" Date: Wed, December 16, 2009 8:40 amTo: Fascinating stuff from Larry Vito Randy Not sure who authored this, but it is most certainly an interesting read. Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout -Part 1 The Gators. Some of this is dual source and some multiple source. None is single source. But remember, this is hearsay info, in that it was not related to me by participants, but by those who know and interact with the participants. Some is my opinion or conjecture, but not without a great deal of substantiation, or I would not put my name on it. There not a lot of sweetness and light in this post, but it's darkest just before the dawn and my next post will provide some positive developments.1) There was a clique of players that were not serious about preparation, and it was a core group that we are not used to thinking of in this way. They are players we are accustomed to being serious-minded and to handling their affairs in a mature way. This did not happen. There was a large scale emotional/mental breakdown of discipline on the part of several players that caused a rising lack of focus beginning with preparation for FSU, and continuing through SECCG prep.2) From a source close to the team: word spreads among teams and coaches in the SEC faster than it does in public via the media, and Bama's staff and players knew that many key UF players were not taking preparation seriously, but were on the other hand focused on their own and not the team's wellbeing. While it can't be proven, someone whom I trust stated that several key players "lost their hunger to be champions" when they began to get within sight of the NFL, and were listening to some very bad advice. TT (the ultimate competitor) was, in fact, livid at these kids with divided loyalties, and his anger erupted (as much as it ever could with him) in the locker room confronting the commitment of these players to winning (pre-SECCG). During the game he was pressing to make up for their lack of intensity, effort. That group of players is likely gone (to a man). We may see the return of one D star who lost his focus simply because his draft value is now questioned. The team came out of the tunnel looking flat because a lot of this stuff erupted on the trip to the game site and in the hotel. The team looked flat because it WAS flat. Division and mutual suspicion doomed them before kickoff. I was told by one source that he'd "never seen Tim so angry at other players."3) I was told that there was a players meeting among some of these core contributors prior to the FSU game discussing NFL prospects and determining the list of who would be coming out and who wouldn't. A "core group" of players determined that they would all come out together. It was determined in this meeting that some kids would be minimizing their risks in the coming games. Some were offensive and some were defensive players. The impact of the looming rookie salary cap had a huge effect on the mentality of some players. The coaches were aware of some of this, but not the full extent, and there is only so much you can do even if you know, short of benching starters. Some of these were absolutely critical players we were counting on to come through, and simply quit on the team.4) Urban is glad for the coming cap and hopes it has some teeth, because he is bitter about UF’s player attrition and feels that the NFL is harming his program inordinately. UF is on national TV every day (playing or not), and the NFL buzz starts very early here (yes, earlier than elsewhere where the media glare is less intense). He is a realist and understands that the NFL is a draw/dream for a lot of these kids who grew up with making it to the league as their goal, but feels that the inordinately high 1st round money is damaging college football, and particularly damaging the teams that are more in the media glare. He feels that with the cap, kids will likely be making more conservative decisions on coming o
[gatortalk] FW: Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout
Fascinating stuff from Larry Vito Randy _ Not sure who authored this, but it is most certainly an interesting read. Background on the SECCG and the Immediate Fallout -Part 1 The Gators. Some of this is dual source and some multiple source. None is single source. But remember, this is hearsay info, in that it was not related to me by participants, but by those who know and interact with the participants. Some is my opinion or conjecture, but not without a great deal of substantiation, or I would not put my name on it. There not a lot of sweetness and light in this post, but it's darkest just before the dawn and my next post will provide some positive developments. 1) There was a clique of players that were not serious about preparation, and it was a core group that we are not used to thinking of in this way. They are players we are accustomed to being serious-minded and to handling their affairs in a mature way. This did not happen. There was a large scale emotional/mental breakdown of discipline on the part of several players that caused a rising lack of focus beginning with preparation for FSU, and continuing through SECCG prep. 2) From a source close to the team: word spreads among teams and coaches in the SEC faster than it does in public via the media, and Bama's staff and players knew that many key UF players were not taking preparation seriously, but were on the other hand focused on their own and not the team's wellbeing. While it can't be proven, someone whom I trust stated that several key players "lost their hunger to be champions" when they began to get within sight of the NFL, and were listening to some very bad advice. TT (the ultimate competitor) was, in fact, livid at these kids with divided loyalties, and his anger erupted (as much as it ever could with him) in the locker room confronting the commitment of these players to winning (pre-SECCG). During the game he was pressing to make up for their lack of intensity, effort. That group of players is likely gone (to a man). We may see the return of one D star who lost his focus simply because his draft value is now questioned. The team came out of the tunnel looking flat because a lot of this stuff erupted on the trip to the game site and in the hotel. The team looked flat because it WAS flat. Division and mutual suspicion doomed them before kickoff. I was told by one source that he'd "never seen Tim so angry at other players." 3) I was told that there was a players meeting among some of these core contributors prior to the FSU game discussing NFL prospects and determining the list of who would be coming out and who wouldn't. A "core group" of players determined that they would all come out together. It was determined in this meeting that some kids would be minimizing their risks in the coming games. Some were offensive and some were defensive players. The impact of the looming rookie salary cap had a huge effect on the mentality of some players. The coaches were aware of some of this, but not the full extent, and there is only so much you can do even if you know, short of benching starters. Some of these were absolutely critical players we were counting on to come through, and simply quit on the team. 4) Urban is glad for the coming cap and hopes it has some teeth, because he is bitter about UF's player attrition and feels that the NFL is harming his program inordinately. UF is on national TV every day (playing or not), and the NFL buzz starts very early here (yes, earlier than elsewhere where the media glare is less intense). He is a realist and understands that the NFL is a draw/dream for a lot of these kids who grew up with making it to the league as their goal, but feels that the inordinately high 1st round money is damaging college football, and particularly damaging the teams that are more in the media glare. He feels that with the cap, kids will likely be making more conservative decisions on coming out early, as there will be less lure in an attempt to make that one, big life-changing score -missing out on the full college experience and damaging the team with divided commitment. 5) Urban has had a difficult time this year keeping the mentality of the team managed. There have been some divisive parents (which always happens when you have as much talent as we do). Complaint about playing time, and locker room jockeying/division. Sometimes when you have players for as long as some have been here, and they are of a certain background/mentality, you lose them at the end. We had a star player we "lost" at the end of the year last year. Sometimes it happens with kids who are a handful of weeks from being millionaires, who have been working their rears off for years, and who see light at the end of the school tunnel. 6) In some ways you could say we were a victim of our own success. Yet unlike some other schools, UF is a fishbowl, and a star mentality can (and did) develop with some key players. There
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Maybe if they didn't have all those restrictions on there - they could sell some tickets? Besides the deadline for ordering has passed: THE DEADLINE FOR ORDERING BOWL TICKETS IS 11:59 P.M., SATURDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2009. All orders MUST be received by the Ticket Office by this time. Original Message Subject: [gatornews] Fw: An Important Message from Gator FootballFrom: Art Wroble Date: Tue, December 15, 2009 6:22 pmTo: GatorNews Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 1:28:48 PMSubject: An Important Message from Gator FootballDear Gator Fans:What a run; what a run this Gator football team has made over thepast two years, winning 22 straight games, an SEC title, a nationalchampionship, and now, earning another BCS bowl game appearance.These kids and these coaches need you now more than ever. As theyshake off the disappointment of the SEC Championship Game, they needthe Gator Nation to do the same, to rise up and stand behind them, tobe there in New Orleans for this amazing group of student-athletes anda senior class that has won more games than any in the history of theSEC. Gator fans, let's answer the call by supporting this football team inNew Orleans on Jan. 1 for a battle of two Top 5 teams. For all of theincredible moments and memories they have generated, it's the leastthey deserve, and we are counting on you to show them what they'vemeant to Gators everywhere.Anyone can order tickets, whether you are a season ticket holder ornot. There are no restrictions on quantities of tickets, which can beordered by logging on to http://gatorzone.com/ticketsor by calling 1-800-34-GATOR. Thank you for your support of thisamazing football team, and remember, "in all kinds of weather, we allstick together..."See you in New Orleans, and Go Gators!University Athletic AssociationThis email was sent in collaboration with GatorBoosters.org. To update youremail with the Gator Boosters, please contact boost...@gators.uaa.ufl.edu.PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE as the email address that it was sentfrom is not monitored for replies. For information, questions or commentsregarding this service please send all correspondence to:webad...@gatorzone.com -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us