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2017-05-06 Thread Woody Bass
Gators Lacrosse are big east champs for the third time in a row


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[gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators move into a tie for first in league standings

2017-05-06 Thread Oliver Barry
Christian Hicks really did turn the game around with his 15 pitches and a walk.

It says a lot about Kevin O’Sullivan to pull Faedo. I’m not so sure every 
coach/manager would care about his players’ welfare so much.

 

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Of Shane Ford
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 10:47 AM
To: GatorNews
Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators move into a tie for first in league standings

 


Gators move into a tie for first in league standings






  

 

Florida starting pitcher Alex Faedo looks to home while the bases are loaded 
during the opening game of the weekend series against Ole Miss at McKethan 
Stadium in Gainesville.

[Brad McClenny/The Gainesville Sun]

By   Pat Dooley
Gainesville SUN Staff writer




Published: Friday, May 5, 2017 at 9:40 p.m.


Last Modified: Friday, May 5, 2017 at 9:40 p.m.


It’s rare that foul balls elicit so much raw emotion from a crowd. Especially a 
bunch of them in a row.


Facts


Today

Who: Ole Miss (29-18, 11-11 SEC) vs. No. 7 Florida (33-13, 14-8)

When: 6:30 p.m.

Where: McKethan Stadium

Radio: AM-850, 98.1-FM

Pitching matchup: UM lefty Ryan Rolison (6-2, 1.84 ERA) vs. UF RHP Brady Singer 
(5-3, 2.09 ERA)

Sunday: 2 p.m., SEC Network

But on an unseasonably chilly Friday night that included a rainbow in the 
southern sky, nine foul balls by Christian Hicks that kept his at-bat alive 
were cheered loudly, each one with more enthusiasm than the last.

It happened in the fourth inning of No. 7 Florida’s 11-2 win over Ole Miss in 
the first game of a three-game series because, well, it was the turning point 
in the game at McKethan Stadium.

And when the game turned, it turned violently in favor of the Gators, who won 
their seventh straight and pulled into a first-place tie with Kentucky in the 
SEC East race.

The first 10 Gators had gone in order against Ole Miss starter James McArthur 
before the Gators loaded the bases on a Dalton Guthrie single and two walks.

With two out, Hicks found himself in an 0-2 hole. But he kept fouling off pitch 
after pitch and eventually drew a walk to give Florida a 1-0 lead.

“I got to 2-2 and I fouled one off that was real far inside,” said Hicks. “I 
heard the crowd get up and I got goosebumps.

“That was weird. (The crowd noise) kept going up and up and I didn’t want to 
disappoint them. I felt like I was up there for a half an hour even though it 
was only 15 pitches.”

What followed was Florida putting the game away and making one of the SEC’s 
best pitching staffs look as if it was throwing batting practice.

After the Hicks walk, senior Ryan Larson destroyed a 1-2 pitch off the top row 
of the left-field stands for his first career grand slam.

“That was huge, a great at-bat and when we’ve been good historically it’s been 
because we’ve been good with two outs or two strikes,” said Florida coach Kevin 
O’Sullivan. “We had a lot of those in the fourth, but the Hicks at-bat might 
have been the at-bat of the season.”

Jonathan India, in the starting lineup for the first time since April 14, 
followed with a single and a steal of second. Keenan Bell singled India home 
and also stole second, coming home eventually on Deacon Liput’s single.

All told it meant a 7-0 lead for the Gators, more than enough for UF starter 
Alex Faedo.

But the Gators weren’t finished.

In the fifth, Guthrie led off with another single and Austin Langworthy sent 
him to the plate when he rolled a double to the fence in left-center field. 
After Nelson Maldonado singled, JJ Schwarz made it 9-0 with a ground out.

So comfortable was O’Sullivan with the big lead that he pulled Faedo after six 
innings and 98 pitches.

Faedo got the win to run his record to 7-1 and lowered his ERA to 2.42 with six 
shutout innings. He allowed three hits and struck out nine, including four in a 
row at one point. He walked three, but only allowed one runner to reach third 
base.

“Not pitching another couple of innings is going to help us down the road,” 
Faedo said.

Maldonado added another Florida run when he powered a homer over the stands in 
left to lead off the seventh. As was the case with Larson’s slam, it was his 
fourth homer of the season.

Guthrie’s sacrifice fly accounted for the final run, scoring Bell, who had 
doubled to lead off the eighth.

Tyler Dyson pitched two scoreless innings that included five strikeouts. 
Freshman Cole Maye finished the game, but Ole Miss spoiled the shutout when 
pinch-hitter DJ Miller drilled a two-run homer.

“This was the most complete game we

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Making NFL jump: Gator candidates for leaving early

2017-05-06 Thread Ken Kirkley
Only in basketball do they have the option to return.  And they can only return 
if they do not hire an agent and pull their name out of the draft 2 weeks 
before it happens.

Let's reverse that, imagine an NBA team drafting Egbunu late in the 2nd round 
and now he decides he will come back for his senior year to improve his stock.  
Who is hurt in this scenario? Not Egbunu, not UF, only the NBA team is hurt.  
So why does the NCAA care if the NBA team is hurt if it will benefit the 
student?

In my opinion, the old adage of amateur athlete is pretty much out the window, 
it is all a business and they should make the decision that supports their 
interests best.  The pro leagues could change their rules and let the team 
retain the rights and that would negate the advantage the student might gain by 
returning to college, but why not force that issue? And, it might be illegal 
for them ( Pro,league) to do that as it could be seen as an unfair labor 
practice.

I can not see a single reason why the NCAA would be willing to penalize 
students in favor of the pro leagues.

Ken Kirkley

> On May 6, 2017, at 12:57 PM, Oliver Barry  wrote:
> 
> I’m pretty sure they have the option. It’s the involvement of an agent that 
> they can’t return from.
> But, they can declare and see where they’d end up with the option to go back 
> to school, as long as there’s no agent.
>  
> Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI
> Real Estate Broker
> PARKS
> 305B Indian Lake Blvd
> Suite 220
> Hendersonville TN 37075
> Phone: 615-826-4040
> Mobile: 615-972-4239
> bar...@realtracs.com
>  
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 11:00 AM
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Making NFL jump: Gator 
> candidates for leaving early
>  
> Jerry, you are spot on.  The NCAA has full control of this situation, but 
> allows the NFL to dictate the rules.
>  
> They should be concerned with the student athlete.  If the NCAA allowed you 
> to return if you either didn't like where you were drafted or if you weren't 
> drafted at all, then the onus of evaluating draft talent is on the team, not 
> some uncle advising the student.
>  
> There is precedent for this too, the MLB drafts kids out of high school.  But 
> the kid can still attend college if he doesn't like where he was drafted.  
> This same solution would work for basketball too.
> 
> Ken Kirkley
> 
> On May 5, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Jerry D. Belloit  wrote:
> 
> I kind of think that the NCAA needs to revisit the eligibility rules.  I 
> think that if a student athlete wants to be eligible for the draft and DOES 
> NOT hire an agent, they should still have their eligibility.  If the student 
> athlete is not happy with where they are drafted or if they are not drafted, 
> they should be able to return to their college team and continue their 
> education.  If they decide to not attend classes, they would simply lose 
> their eligibility.  It may be that the combines would have to adjust to the 
> student athletes (rather than the student athletes adjusting to the combine) 
> and hold combine activities on a couple of weekends.
>  
> This would also help someone like Bullard who might be actually found 
> innocent.  His draft was ruined and could possibly benefit with a successful 
> senior season (not to mention the value of an additional year of college.)
>  
> Jerry
>  
> From: GatorTalk  on behalf of Charles Simpson 
> 
> Reply-To: GatorTalk 
> Date: Friday, May 5, 2017 at 10:36 AM
> To: GatorTalk 
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Making NFL jump: Gator candidates 
> for leaving early
>  
> According to an article I read 27 underclassmen were not drafted in the 
> recent NFL draft. Several guys Andreu mentions below were not even full time 
> starters.
> 
> Charlie
> 
>  
> On 5/5/2017 7:56 AM, Shane Ford wrote:
> Making NFL jump: Gator candidates for leaving early
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Florida wide receiver Antonio Callaway (81) looks to make a move on Iowa 
> defensive back Desmond King during the Outback Bowl at Raymond James Stadium 
> in Tampa on Jan. 2. This may be Callaway’s last season in a Gators uniform. 
> King was drafted by the LA Chargers last weekend.
> 
> Brad McClenny/Staff Photographer
> By Robbie Andreu
> Gainesville SUN Staff writer
> 
> 
> Published: Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 9:46 a.m.
> Last Modified: Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 9:46 a.m.
> Leaving school early for professional football has become an NFL draft 
> tradition for Florida’s top underclassmen.
> 
> This past weekend, five of the eight Gators drafted were juniors -- Quincy 
> Wilson, Jalen Tabor, Alex Anzalone, David Sharpe and Caleb Brantley. In the 
> 2016 draft, five of the seven selected were underclassmen.
> 
> That’s 10 out of the last 15.
> 
> So, who’s next?
> 
> Even though it’s way too early, and a lot can happen between now and next 
> April, here’s a look at UF’s draft-eli

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Making NFL jump: Gator candidates for leaving early

2017-05-06 Thread Oliver Barry
I’m pretty sure they have the option. It’s the involvement of an agent that 
they can’t return from.

But, they can declare and see where they’d end up with the option to go back to 
school, as long as there’s no agent.

 

Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI

Real Estate Broker

PARKS

305B Indian Lake Blvd

Suite 220

Hendersonville TN 37075

Phone: 615-826-4040

Mobile: 615-972-4239

  bar...@realtracs.com

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 11:00 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Making NFL jump: Gator 
candidates for leaving early

 

Jerry, you are spot on.  The NCAA has full control of this situation, but 
allows the NFL to dictate the rules.

 

They should be concerned with the student athlete.  If the NCAA allowed you to 
return if you either didn't like where you were drafted or if you weren't 
drafted at all, then the onus of evaluating draft talent is on the team, not 
some uncle advising the student.

 

There is precedent for this too, the MLB drafts kids out of high school.  But 
the kid can still attend college if he doesn't like where he was drafted.  This 
same solution would work for basketball too.

Ken Kirkley


On May 5, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Jerry D. Belloit  wrote:

I kind of think that the NCAA needs to revisit the eligibility rules.  I think 
that if a student athlete wants to be eligible for the draft and DOES NOT hire 
an agent, they should still have their eligibility.  If the student athlete is 
not happy with where they are drafted or if they are not drafted, they should 
be able to return to their college team and continue their education.  If they 
decide to not attend classes, they would simply lose their eligibility.  It may 
be that the combines would have to adjust to the student athletes (rather than 
the student athletes adjusting to the combine) and hold combine activities on a 
couple of weekends.

 

This would also help someone like Bullard who might be actually found innocent. 
 His draft was ruined and could possibly benefit with a successful senior 
season (not to mention the value of an additional year of college.)

 

Jerry

 

From: GatorTalk  on behalf of Charles Simpson 

Reply-To: GatorTalk 
Date: Friday, May 5, 2017 at 10:36 AM
To: GatorTalk 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Making NFL jump: Gator candidates 
for leaving early

 

According to an article I read 27 underclassmen were not drafted in the recent 
NFL draft. Several guys Andreu mentions below were not even full time starters.

Charlie

 

On 5/5/2017 7:56 AM, Shane Ford wrote:


Making NFL jump: Gator candidates for leaving early







  

 

Florida wide receiver Antonio Callaway (81) looks to make a move on Iowa 
defensive back Desmond King during the Outback Bowl at Raymond James Stadium in 
Tampa on Jan. 2. This may be Callaway’s last season in a Gators uniform. King 
was drafted by the LA Chargers last weekend.

Brad McClenny/Staff Photographer

By   Robbie Andreu
Gainesville SUN Staff writer





Published: Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 9:46 a.m.


Last Modified: Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 9:46 a.m.


Leaving school early for professional football has become an NFL draft 
tradition for Florida’s top underclassmen.

This past weekend, five of the eight Gators drafted were juniors -- Quincy 
Wilson, Jalen Tabor, Alex Anzalone, David Sharpe and Caleb Brantley. In the 
2016 draft, five of the seven selected were underclassmen.

That’s 10 out of the last 15.

So, who’s next?

Even though it’s way too early, and a lot can happen between now and next 
April, here’s a look at UF’s draft-eligible underclassmen who might be NFL 
bound a year from now:

Antonio Callaway, wide receiver

Thanks, in part, to going through his first spring since he’s been at UF, 
Callaway is in the best shape of his career and is getting himself primed for a 
big junior season. He’s a proven playmaker as a receiver and a returner, and 
the NFL types will be drawn to that athleticism and versatility. With more 
playmakers around him -- guys like Dre Massey, Tyrie Cleveland, Josh Hammonds 
and DeAndre Goolsby -- Callaway will draw less double coverage, which will lead 
to more opportunities for him to make plays. This is a kid who has been 
grooming himself for the NFL since he arrived on campus.

Chances he leaves early: 95 percent.

Martez Ivey, offensive tackle

It’s all setting up perfectly for Ivey to leave early. He had a good sophomore 
season at guard and started playing up to his five-star potential. Now, he’s 
back at his more natural position, and the position he’ll be making his living 
at -- left tackle. Ivey seems to have all the too

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Making NFL jump: Gator candidates for leaving early

2017-05-06 Thread Ken Kirkley
Jerry, you are spot on.  The NCAA has full control of this situation, but 
allows the NFL to dictate the rules.

They should be concerned with the student athlete.  If the NCAA allowed you to 
return if you either didn't like where you were drafted or if you weren't 
drafted at all, then the onus of evaluating draft talent is on the team, not 
some uncle advising the student.

There is precedent for this too, the MLB drafts kids out of high school.  But 
the kid can still attend college if he doesn't like where he was drafted.  This 
same solution would work for basketball too.

Ken Kirkley

> On May 5, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Jerry D. Belloit  wrote:
> 
> I kind of think that the NCAA needs to revisit the eligibility rules.  I 
> think that if a student athlete wants to be eligible for the draft and DOES 
> NOT hire an agent, they should still have their eligibility.  If the student 
> athlete is not happy with where they are drafted or if they are not drafted, 
> they should be able to return to their college team and continue their 
> education.  If they decide to not attend classes, they would simply lose 
> their eligibility.  It may be that the combines would have to adjust to the 
> student athletes (rather than the student athletes adjusting to the combine) 
> and hold combine activities on a couple of weekends.
>  
> This would also help someone like Bullard who might be actually found 
> innocent.  His draft was ruined and could possibly benefit with a successful 
> senior season (not to mention the value of an additional year of college.)
>  
> Jerry
>  
> From: GatorTalk  on behalf of Charles Simpson 
> 
> Reply-To: GatorTalk 
> Date: Friday, May 5, 2017 at 10:36 AM
> To: GatorTalk 
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Making NFL jump: Gator candidates 
> for leaving early
>  
> According to an article I read 27 underclassmen were not drafted in the 
> recent NFL draft. Several guys Andreu mentions below were not even full time 
> starters.
> 
> Charlie
> 
>  
> On 5/5/2017 7:56 AM, Shane Ford wrote:
> Making NFL jump: Gator candidates for leaving early
> 
> 
> 
> Florida wide receiver Antonio Callaway (81) looks to make a move on Iowa 
> defensive back Desmond King during the Outback Bowl at Raymond James Stadium 
> in Tampa on Jan. 2. This may be Callaway’s last season in a Gators uniform. 
> King was drafted by the LA Chargers last weekend.
> 
> Brad McClenny/Staff Photographer
> By Robbie Andreu
> Gainesville SUN Staff writer
> 
> Published: Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 9:46 a.m.
> Last Modified: Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 9:46 a.m.
> Leaving school early for professional football has become an NFL draft 
> tradition for Florida’s top underclassmen.
> 
> This past weekend, five of the eight Gators drafted were juniors -- Quincy 
> Wilson, Jalen Tabor, Alex Anzalone, David Sharpe and Caleb Brantley. In the 
> 2016 draft, five of the seven selected were underclassmen.
> 
> That’s 10 out of the last 15.
> 
> So, who’s next?
> 
> Even though it’s way too early, and a lot can happen between now and next 
> April, here’s a look at UF’s draft-eligible underclassmen who might be NFL 
> bound a year from now:
> 
> Antonio Callaway, wide receiver
> 
> Thanks, in part, to going through his first spring since he’s been at UF, 
> Callaway is in the best shape of his career and is getting himself primed for 
> a big junior season. He’s a proven playmaker as a receiver and a returner, 
> and the NFL types will be drawn to that athleticism and versatility. With 
> more playmakers around him -- guys like Dre Massey, Tyrie Cleveland, Josh 
> Hammonds and DeAndre Goolsby -- Callaway will draw less double coverage, 
> which will lead to more opportunities for him to make plays. This is a kid 
> who has been grooming himself for the NFL since he arrived on campus.
> 
> Chances he leaves early: 95 percent.
> 
> Martez Ivey, offensive tackle
> 
> It’s all setting up perfectly for Ivey to leave early. He had a good 
> sophomore season at guard and started playing up to his five-star potential. 
> Now, he’s back at his more natural position, and the position he’ll be making 
> his living at -- left tackle. Ivey seems to have all the tools the NFL is 
> looking for in a left tackle. He’s big, strong, athletic, has long arms and 
> moves his feet extremely well for a man his size. He’ll be tested by the many 
> speed rushers in the SEC (and at FSU). If he passes those tests, well, 
> there’s nowhere to go but up -- to the NFL. 
> 
> Chances he leaves early: 95 percent.
> 
> Dre Massey, wide receiver
> 
> Had this speedy slot receiver stayed healthy and had the season the coaches 
> were predicting for him in 2016, this junior college transfer would have been 
> drafted this past weekend. But blowing out his ACL on the opening kickoff 
> last season temporarily stalled his career. Although he was held out of 
> contact work in the spring, he showed the same quickness, speed and 
> playmaking ability in passing drills tha