Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Gatorrrrrr
Heater is reportedly staying. As may be Loefler (grumble). 

Woody (via iPhone)

On Dec 12, 2010, at 11:07 PM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote:

 Which members of our coaching staff would you keep?
 
 None is an acceptable answer.
 
 I would try to keep Chuck Heater. Our secondary was one of the few bright 
 spots for the Gators this year, and he has been our recruiting coordinator.
 
 -Zeb
 
 
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RE: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Randy Lyons
Clean house and re-arrange the furniture.
 
Randy
 
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To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...
 
Which members of our coaching staff would you keep?
 
None is an acceptable answer.
 
I would try to keep Chuck Heater. Our secondary was one of the few bright
spots for the Gators this year, and he has been our recruiting coordinator.
 
-Zeb
 
 
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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Steve McKibben
Loeffler was actually told to leave Tebow's mechanics alone. They thought that 
if they tried to fix them , the adjustment period might cost the team some 
games, and we could win with them the way they were. Once he was getting paid 
to play, the team paying his salary could tweak them on their time and on their 
dime.

Loeffler's task was to prepare JB.


--- On Sun, 12/12/10, oli...@bobparks.com oli...@bobparks.com wrote:
Just a guess here, but I'd bet the conversation Muschamp had with Driskell 
included keeping Scott Loefler, since Loefler, as everyone here knows, was 
brought in to help Tebow with his mechanics.  

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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Woody
Question?  Name ONE improvement to QB play since Loefler has been on board?
Reaaddyy and go.

Recognize Defenses?  Uhh.. no.
Making better decisions?  U no.
Reduction in INTs?  uh no.
Better production?  u actually its gone the opposite direction.

Is this solely Loeflers fault?   no... but someone with no knowledge of a
spread offense comes in to teach a qb the spread? bad move.

Drayton.. HAS TO GO.
Addazio is gone.. lets face it.
Azzanni?  Might stay.. we'll see.  One year enough to turn make somethign
happen?
Durkin - Goner.
White - Probably gone.
Austin - Yup. prolly so.
Marotti - Definitely stays.. Ill be surprised if he's gone.



On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.comwrote:

   Loeffler was actually told to leave Tebow's mechanics alone. They
 thought that if they tried to fix them , the adjustment period might cost
 the team some games, and we could win with them the way they were. Once he
 was getting paid to play, the team paying his salary could tweak them on
 their time and on their dime.

 Loeffler's task was to prepare JB.



 --- On *Sun, 12/12/10, oli...@bobparks.com oli...@bobparks.com* wrote:

 Just a guess here, but I'd bet the conversation Muschamp had with Driskell
 included keeping Scott Loefler, since Loefler, as everyone here knows, was
 brought in to help Tebow with his mechanics.

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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Steve McKibben
My understanding is that Loeffler was every bit the square peg in a
round hole as JB was. He wasn't brought in to teach JB the spread, but
to help integrate pro-style offfense concepts into the spread. As we
all saw, this was a huge failure for a number of reasons, one of the
biggest being the boneheaded decision that to do this we needed to
teach the OL completely different blocking schemes for one set of
plays/players and continue to use another for the rest. Of course the
OL coach was in effect a part-timer this past year since he was also
the OC.



I'm not saying Loeffler shouldn't go - the new HC and OC should pick
their own staff, I'm just saying that it's possible that Loeffler was
given a task here that due to circumstances beyond his control may have
been nigh impossible to do well.

--- On Mon, 12/13/10, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote:
Question?  Name ONE improvement to QB play since Loefler has been on board?  
Reaaddyy and go.
 
Recognize Defenses?  Uhh.. no.
Making better decisions?  U no.
Reduction in INTs?  uh no.
Better production?  u actually its gone the opposite direction.
 
Is this solely Loeflers fault?   no... but someone with no
knowledge of a spread offense comes in to teach a qb the spread? bad
move.  

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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Woody
You still didnt mention one improvement.  (wink)

lol




On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.comwrote:

   My understanding is that Loeffler was every bit the square peg in a
 round hole as JB was. He wasn't brought in to teach JB the spread, but to
 help integrate pro-style offfense concepts into the spread. As we all saw,
 this was a huge failure for a number of reasons, one of the biggest being
 the boneheaded decision that to do this we needed to teach the OL completely
 different blocking schemes for one set of plays/players and continue to use
 another for the rest. Of course the OL coach was in effect a part-timer this
 past year since he was also the OC.

 I'm not saying Loeffler shouldn't go - the new HC and OC should pick their
 own staff, I'm just saying that it's possible that Loeffler was given a task
 here that due to circumstances beyond his control may have been nigh
 impossible to do well.


 --- On *Mon, 12/13/10, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com* wrote:

 Question?  Name ONE improvement to QB play since Loefler has been on
 board?  Reaaddyy and go.

 Recognize Defenses?  Uhh.. no.
 Making better decisions?  U no.
 Reduction in INTs?  uh no.
 Better production?  u actually its gone the opposite direction.

 Is this solely Loeflers fault?   no... but someone with no knowledge of a
 spread offense comes in to teach a qb the spread? bad move.

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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Steve McKibben
As you pointed out, there weren't any - not any that I could see anyway.
He may be a crummy QB coach, but he also may have had the positive things he 
accomplished wiped out by the tidal wave of mismanagement of the offense.

Didn't JB look good in the OB game? :) 

--- On Mon, 12/13/10, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote:
You still didnt mention one improvement.  (wink)  

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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Woody
Dont make me find that email post-Spring Game where I said it was
deceiving.  lol




On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.comwrote:

   As you pointed out, there weren't any - not any that I could see anyway.
 He may be a crummy QB coach, but he also may have had the positive things
 he accomplished wiped out by the tidal wave of mismanagement of the offense.

 Didn't JB look good in the OB game? :)

 --- On *Mon, 12/13/10, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com* wrote:

 You still didnt mention one improvement.  (wink)

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RE: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Randy Platt
Mariotti?

 

 

Randy Platt

aka PCGator

aka The Armchair Quarterback

aka The Other Randy

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 11:07 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

 

Which members of our coaching staff would you keep?

 

None is an acceptable answer.

 

I would try to keep Chuck Heater. Our secondary was one of the few bright
spots for the Gators this year, and he has been our recruiting coordinator.

 

-Zeb

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Charlie
The only negative I've heard about Mariotti is that a lot of our guys seemed
to get injured often. Whether this has anything to do with SC coach I can't
say. Some have speculated that it does.
Charlie

  _  

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Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 7:58 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...



Mariotti?

 

 

Randy Platt

aka PCGator

aka The Armchair Quarterback

aka The Other Randy

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 11:07 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

 

Which members of our coaching staff would you keep?

 

None is an acceptable answer.

 

I would try to keep Chuck Heater. Our secondary was one of the few bright
spots for the Gators this year, and he has been our recruiting coordinator.

 

-Zeb

 

 

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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Badrish
Ummm its Marotti, not Mariotti. Just sayin' ..



On 12/13/10, Charlie ces1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The only negative I've heard about Mariotti is that a lot of our guys seemed
 to get injured often. Whether this has anything to do with SC coach I can't
 say. Some have speculated that it does.
 Charlie

   _

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 Behalf Of Randy Platt
 Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 7:58 AM
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...



 Mariotti?





 Randy Platt

 aka PCGator

 aka The Armchair Quarterback

 aka The Other Randy



 Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!







 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of John Vega
 Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 11:07 PM
 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...



 Which members of our coaching staff would you keep?



 None is an acceptable answer.



 I would try to keep Chuck Heater. Our secondary was one of the few bright
 spots for the Gators this year, and he has been our recruiting coordinator.



 -Zeb





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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Darlene Goodfellow
I have a friend that is a professor at UF that has some involvement in the 
athletic department and she has a very negative impression of Loeffler - to the 
point that she was shocked that he was even hired to the staff in the first 
place. She also predicted that this season wasn't going to be the faiiry tale 
ending for Brantley that most of us hoped for. I would be shocked at this point 
if he was retained. 




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  From: Steve McKibben 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 7:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...


As you pointed out, there weren't any - not any that I could see anyway.
He may be a crummy QB coach, but he also may have had the positive 
things he accomplished wiped out by the tidal wave of mismanagement of the 
offense.

Didn't JB look good in the OB game? :) 

--- On Mon, 12/13/10, Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com wrote:

  You still didnt mention one improvement.  (wink)   


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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Scott Lucas
Heater, Adazzio as OL Coach, Mariotti for Strength and Conditioning, and maybe 
in Azazzani but am not so sure on this one.

I will go out on a limb and say he will keep Mariotti and Heater... all others 
may be gone.  Any new OC will want his own OL coach and receiver coach that 
they 
are comfortable with.  






From: John Vega zebu...@gate.net
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010 11:07:09 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

Which members of our coaching staff would you keep? 

None is an acceptable answer.

I would try to keep Chuck Heater. Our secondary was one of the few bright spots 
for the Gators this year, and he has been our recruiting coordinator.

-Zeb

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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread John Vega


On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Steve McKibben wrote:

Loeffler was actually told to leave Tebow's mechanics alone. They  
thought that if they tried to fix them , the adjustment period  
might cost the team some games, and we could win with them the way  
they were. Once he was getting paid to play, the team paying his  
salary could tweak them on their time and on their dime.


Loeffler's task was to prepare JB.


not sure that that improves my assessment of him

-Zeb

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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread John Vega


On Dec 13, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Scott Lucas wrote:

Heater, Adazzio as OL Coach, Mariotti for Strength and  
Conditioning, and maybe in Azazzani but am not so sure on this one.


I will go out on a limb and say he will keep Mariotti and Heater...  
all others may be gone.  Any new OC will want his own OL coach and  
receiver coach that they are comfortable with.


There is that.

It also difficult to demote an employee - any employee - and keep him  
around and giving his all.


Addazio may be rehired as an OL Line coach somewhere, but it won't be  
at UF, unless he volunteers for the demotion.


-Zeb

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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Woody
Addazio may get a HC nod somewhere.. Temple is open... i think theres
one other MAC job still open...



On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:08 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote:

 On Dec 13, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Scott Lucas wrote:

 Heater, Adazzio as OL Coach, Mariotti for Strength and Conditioning, and
 maybe in Azazzani but am not so sure on this one.

 I will go out on a limb and say he will keep Mariotti and Heater... all
 others may be gone.  Any new OC will want his own OL coach and receiver
 coach that they are comfortable with.

 There is that.
 It also difficult to demote an employee - any employee - and keep him around
 and giving his all.
 Addazio may be rehired as an OL Line coach somewhere, but it won't be at UF,
 unless he volunteers for the demotion.
 -Zeb

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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread Steve McKibben
I didn't expect it to since I wasn't posting that to defend him.

--- On Mon, 12/13/10, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote:
On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Steve McKibben wrote:
Loeffler was actually told to leave Tebow's mechanics alone. They thought that 
if they tried to fix them , the adjustment period might cost the team some 
games, and we could win with them the way they were. Once he was getting paid 
to play, the team paying his salary could tweak them on their time and on their 
dime.

Loeffler's task was to prepare JB.
not sure that that improves my assessment of him
-Zeb

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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-13 Thread John Vega
Ah, tongue in cheek!

Tough to tell without the verbal and facial clues that accompany direct 
conversation.

Then I agree with you by disagreeing with you!

-Zeb

On Dec 13, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Steve McKibben wrote:

 I didn't expect it to since I wasn't posting that to defend him.
 
 --- On Mon, 12/13/10, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote:
 On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Steve McKibben wrote:
 
 Loeffler was actually told to leave Tebow's mechanics alone. They thought 
 that if they tried to fix them , the adjustment period might cost the team 
 some games, and we could win with them the way they were. Once he was 
 getting paid to play, the team paying his salary could tweak them on their 
 time and on their dime.
 
 Loeffler's task was to prepare JB.
 
 not sure that that improves my assessment of him
 
 -Zeb
 
 
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[gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-12 Thread John Vega
Which members of our coaching staff would you keep?

None is an acceptable answer.

I would try to keep Chuck Heater. Our secondary was one of the few bright spots 
for the Gators this year, and he has been our recruiting coordinator.

-Zeb


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Re: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

2010-12-12 Thread oliver
Just a guess here, but I'd bet the conversation Muschamp had with Driskell 
included keeping Scott Loefler, since Loefler, as everyone here knows, was 
brought in to help Tebow with his mechanics.  


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Subject: [gatortalk] If you were Muschamp...

Which members of our coaching staff would you keep?

None is an acceptable answer.

I would try to keep Chuck Heater. Our secondary was one of the few bright spots 
for the Gators this year, and he has been our recruiting coordinator.

-Zeb


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2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
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Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us