[gatortalk] My $.02
I think Murphy did a very good job considering the breakdowns on offense. I am still a believer in our coaches and think the Gators are going to be really good, at some point. It is like Spurrier, when he was being bullheaded about putting Danny into the shotgun, I think the coaches need to understand what Gainesville Sun’s Dooley states below and adjust….IMNSHO! Dooley, “I know what Will Muschamp is trying to do offensively and it does work against lesser teams. But in the last five big games Florida has played, the Gators are 1-4 and have averaged 13.5 points in those losses. The offense can’t be completely changed but there needs to be some major tweaking. Losing is bad, but losing and being boring is worse.” Other things that I have read: Pooch punt on 4th down at the LSU 35? Cowardice! Gator fans are extremely critical about Muschamp's penchant to dominate time of possession. Here was one of the better comments: "Nobody ever succeeded by chewing up clock when they were behind by 2 or more scores. It's bad enough to sit on a lead. To sit on your opponent's lead is unfathomable." Go Gators! Fran J. Fran Lasseter, SRA State Certified General Appraiser RZ607 Lasseter Appraisal Company 140 South Beach Street Suite 360 Daytona Beach, Fl 32114 386-258-5858 fax 386-258-1516 cell 386-299-3920 -- -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GatorTalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to gatortalk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [gatortalk] My $.02
I don't have a quibble with anything you say but I will take a few shots at; The pooch punt pinned LSU at their own 1 yard line was far from cowardice, given you have an extremely raw kicker you are asking to make a 52-53 yarder and a championship quality defense you trust more than you trust your offense. Calculated definitely, cowardice hardly. A little humor, my daughter, who is fairly knowledgeable about football, after watching the play, asked what happen , so I dutifully explain the pooch punt, lineup in standard offensive formation appearing to go for it on fourth down, the QB kicks what is essentially a punt in an effort to pin the opposing team deep in their own territory. The next words from my daughter came straight out of the Longest Yard (original version) when Burt Reynold's character drop kicks the field goal/ extra point and I think Ray Nitchski (SP?) character ask "You can do that?". My daughter is 28 years old and has watch football with her dad most of her life, she had never seen a pooch punt. I got a chuckle. Time of possession is a meaningless statistic, it is result of the offense philosophy employed by Florida, just as it is a results of the offensive philosophy employed by Oregon. To me the comment you posted is a comment about the football stratagem employed by Muschamp. Muschamp is old school, play great defense, great special teams, dominate time of possession by running the ball and avoid turnovers by passing only to facilitate the run. That is the way this team is currently built and it is not going to change down 14 - 3 at the half. The problem with the stratagem is that it requires the team to play almost flawlessly as the stratagem is not designed to play catch-up from very far behind. Nobody thought the stratagem was boring when we beat LSU 14 - 6, it was but nobody cared because we won. The question is can Muschamp build a championship caliber program, fortunately or unfortunately, as compared to Spurrier's run, in a time frame acceptable to the powers that be using this stratagem, time will tell. Say what you want but Florida scores a touchdown instead of settling on a 27 yard field goal, the defense holds, then our final drive, the one that ended on a fourth and 27 from the LSU 37, is first and 10 at the LSU 10 down 14 - 10. Score, defense holds again and Florida wins 17 - 10. Again very little margin for error and on Saturday Florida made to many. Personally, I can respect the current stratagem, but I would prefer to see a more robust passing game. Having said that I am not sure we can employ a more robust passing game unless we get better play form our offensive tackles against quality defensive opponents. JAFO Randy Platt aka "PCGator" aka "The Armchair Quarterback" aka "The Other Randy" Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest! From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jfr...@earthlink.net Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 10:47 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] My $.02 I think Murphy did a very good job considering the breakdowns on offense. I am still a believer in our coaches and think the Gators are going to be really good, at some point. It is like Spurrier, when he was being bullheaded about putting Danny into the shotgun, I think the coaches need to understand what Gainesville Sun's Dooley states below and adjust..IMNSHO! Dooley, "I know what Will Muschamp is trying to do offensively and it does work against lesser teams. But in the last five big games Florida has played, the Gators are 1-4 and have averaged 13.5 points in those losses. The offense can't be completely changed but there needs to be some major tweaking. Losing is bad, but losing and being boring is worse." Other things that I have read: Pooch punt on 4th down at the LSU 35? Cowardice! Gator fans are extremely critical about Muschamp's penchant to dominate time of possession. Here was one of the better comments: "Nobody ever succeeded by chewing up clock when they were behind by 2 or more scores. It's bad enough to sit on a lead. To sit on your opponent's lead is unfathomable." Go Gators! Fran J. Fran Lasseter, SRA State Certified General Appraiser RZ607 Lasseter Appraisal Company 140 South Beach Street Suite 360 Daytona Beach, Fl 32114 386-258-5858 fax 386-258-1516 cell 386-299-3920 -- -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GatorTalk"
Re: [gatortalk] My $.02
Agreed. Essentially, the Gators are a one dimensional team. Muschamp is gonna have to learn that u gotta score early/often then worry about TOP after. Woody (via iPhone) > On Oct 14, 2013, at 11:03 PM, "Randy Platt" wrote: > > I don't have a quibble with anything you say but I will take a few shots at; > > The pooch punt pinned LSU at their own 1 yard line was far from cowardice, > given you have an extremely raw kicker you are asking to make a 52-53 yarder > and a championship quality defense you trust more than you trust your > offense. Calculated definitely, cowardice hardly. A little humor, my > daughter, who is fairly knowledgeable about football, after watching the > play, asked what happen , so I dutifully explain the pooch punt, lineup in > standard offensive formation appearing to go for it on fourth down, the QB > kicks what is essentially a punt in an effort to pin the opposing team deep > in their own territory. The next words from my daughter came straight out of > the Longest Yard (original version) when Burt Reynold's character drop kicks > the field goal/ extra point and I think Ray Nitchski (SP?) character ask > "You can do that?". My daughter is 28 years old and has watch football with > her dad most of her life, she had never seen a pooch punt. I got a chuckle. > > Time of possession is a meaningless statistic, it is result of the offense > philosophy employed by Florida, just as it is a results of the offensive > philosophy employed by Oregon. To me the comment you posted is a comment > about the football stratagem employed by Muschamp. Muschamp is old school, > play great defense, great special teams, dominate time of possession by > running the ball and avoid turnovers by passing only to facilitate the run. > That is the way this team is currently built and it is not going to change > down 14 - 3 at the half. The problem with the stratagem is that it requires > the team to play almost flawlessly as the stratagem is not designed to play > catch-up from very far behind. Nobody thought the stratagem was boring when > we beat LSU 14 - 6, it was but nobody cared because we won. The question is > can Muschamp build a championship caliber program, fortunately or > unfortunately, as compared to Spurrier's run, in a time frame acceptable to > the powers that be using this stratagem, time will tell. Say what you want > but Florida scores a touchdown instead of settling on a 27 yard field goal, > the defense holds, then our final drive, the one that ended on a fourth and > 27 from the LSU 37, is first and 10 at the LSU 10 down 14 - 10. Score, > defense holds again and Florida wins 17 - 10. Again very little margin for > error and on Saturday Florida made to many. Personally, I can respect the > current stratagem, but I would prefer to see a more robust passing game. > Having said that I am not sure we can employ a more robust passing game > unless we get better play form our offensive tackles against quality > defensive opponents. > > JAFO > > > Randy Platt > aka "PCGator" > aka "The Armchair Quarterback" > aka "The Other Randy" > > Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest! > > > > From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of jfr...@earthlink.net > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 10:47 AM > To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com > Subject: [gatortalk] My $.02 > >I think Murphy did a very good job considering the breakdowns on offense. > I am still a believer in our coaches and think the Gators are going to be > really good, at some point. It is like Spurrier, when he was being > bullheaded about putting Danny into the shotgun, I think the coaches need to > understand what Gainesville Sun’s Dooley states below and adjust….IMNSHO! > Dooley, “I know what Will Muschamp is trying to do offensively and it does > work against lesser teams. But in the last five big games Florida has played, > the Gators are 1-4 and have averaged 13.5 points in those losses. The offense > can’t be completely changed but there needs to be some major tweaking. Losing > is bad, but losing and being boring is worse.” > > Other things that I have read: > > Pooch punt on 4th down at the LSU 35? Cowardice! > > Gator fans are extremely critical about Muschamp's penchant to dominate time > of possession. Here was one of the better comments: "Nobody ever succeeded by > chewing up clock when they were behind by 2 or more scores. It's bad enough > to sit on a lead. To sit on your opponent's lead is unfathomable." > > Go Gators! > Fran > > > > J. Fra
