[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems
Yes. A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:39 AM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems I hear about schools "vacating" wins every now and then, but I'm unsure of the end result. If Bama vacates their 2005 win over us, will that also change OUR record to indicate one additional win? Randy - Original Message - From: Shane <mailto:goufgat...@bellsouth.net> Ford To: GatorNEWS <mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems NCAA places Alabama football program on probation By JOHN ZENOR AP Sports Writer Published: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. Last Modified: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. ---snip, snip, snip-- As a result, the NCAA ruled the football team must vacate any wins in which any of those seven players took part during 2005-07. Alabama said that pending a successful appeal, the decision would cost the program 21 wins, including the 2005 Cotton Bowl victory over Texas Tech and an upset of Florida earlier that season. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- <>
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems
If the wins are vacated, the loss still counts for the opposing team. If they had to forfeit the games, then the opposing team would gain the win. _ From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Alexander Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 6:46 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems I don't know the answer to this for sure, but one of the articles about the Semiholes said that if they have to vacate their wins, then their record could be 0-6 (or something like that) for one year. That suggests to me that the win is just wiped away from the winner, but not given to the loser. If the other team would get the win, then FSU would have an 0-12 record instead of 0-6. That's just me reading between the lines. If anyone knows about this, it would be great to know for sure exactly how it works. Rob From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:39 AM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems I hear about schools "vacating" wins every now and then, but I'm unsure of the end result. If Bama vacates their 2005 win over us, will that also change OUR record to indicate one additional win? Randy - Original Message - From: Shane <mailto:goufgat...@bellsouth.net> Ford To: GatorNEWS <mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems NCAA places Alabama football program on probation By JOHN ZENOR AP Sports Writer Published: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. Last Modified: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. ---snip, snip, snip-- As a result, the NCAA ruled the football team must vacate any wins in which any of those seven players took part during 2005-07. Alabama said that pending a successful appeal, the decision would cost the program 21 wins, including the 2005 Cotton Bowl victory over Texas Tech and an upset of Florida earlier that season. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems
I don’t know the answer to this for sure, but one of the articles about the Semiholes said that if they have to vacate their wins, then their record could be 0-6 (or something like that) for one year. That suggests to me that the win is just wiped away from the winner, but not given to the loser. If the other team would get the win, then FSU would have an 0-12 record instead of 0-6. That’s just me reading between the lines. If anyone knows about this, it would be great to know for sure exactly how it works. Rob From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:39 AM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems I hear about schools "vacating" wins every now and then, but I'm unsure of the end result. If Bama vacates their 2005 win over us, will that also change OUR record to indicate one additional win? Randy - Original Message - From: Shane Ford <mailto:goufgat...@bellsouth.net> To: GatorNEWS <mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems NCAA places Alabama football program on probation By JOHN ZENOR AP Sports Writer Published: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. Last Modified: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. ---snip, snip, snip-- As a result, the NCAA ruled the football team must vacate any wins in which any of those seven players took part during 2005-07. Alabama said that pending a successful appeal, the decision would cost the program 21 wins, including the 2005 Cotton Bowl victory over Texas Tech and an upset of Florida earlier that season. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems
I hear about schools "vacating" wins every now and then, but I'm unsure of the end result. If Bama vacates their 2005 win over us, will that also change OUR record to indicate one additional win? Randy - Original Message - From: Shane Ford To: GatorNEWS Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems NCAA places Alabama football program on probation By JOHN ZENOR AP Sports Writer Published: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. Last Modified: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. ---snip, snip, snip-- As a result, the NCAA ruled the football team must vacate any wins in which any of those seven players took part during 2005-07. Alabama said that pending a successful appeal, the decision would cost the program 21 wins, including the 2005 Cotton Bowl victory over Texas Tech and an upset of Florida earlier that season. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
