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2009-10-30 Thread oliver 
I'm just smugly lurking in the background here. 
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I didn't think that quote was the way I remembered it. Thanks for pointing that 
out.

Randy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Randy Platt 
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  Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:51 PM
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  Just for the record, that was Oliver's post responding to my post. I am on 
your side of this thread.

   

  Returning to "Helen Rule Mode"

   

   

  Randy Platt

  aka "PCGator"

  aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

  aka "The Other Randy"

   

  Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

   

   

   

  From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of John Vega
  Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:03 AM
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
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  On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Randy Platt wrote:





  Yes, Dustin Doe did a bad thing.  But, I have to wonder why all this anger

  about it.  

   

  Are we really as bad as Miami because Doe took two steps in a "showboating"

  style?  

   

  Have we really become the manifestation of evil because of it?

   

  Where was all this anger last season when Brandon Spikes kicked the ball

  into the stands?  Or, where was it a couple of years ago when Travis McGriff

  threw the ball in the stands.

   

  Both had already entered and run through the end zone. The play was over.

   

  Doe started showboating in the field of play and led to a fumble that, 
thankfully, was not called.

   

  Showboating after the play is a mild ire. In some cases, such as Michael 
Irvin running into the tunnel - it's even humorous.

   

  Showboating during the play - an act that could lead to a costly turnover, is 
the epitome of what is bad about a "me first" attitude in team sports. It's 
also dumb. At the very least, I like to take solace in the assumption that our 
players are smarter and better coached than the other team's players.

   

  -Zeb

   




   


  




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2009-10-29 Thread Arthur Polhill 
No, but he was close.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 





From: Gatornet Admin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:49:44 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach 
PostGatornews from Junogator


Never played it. Did you win? ;-)

Randy

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Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:45 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach 
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> Yes, but almost only counts in hand grenade toss. :-)
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Gatornet Admin" 
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:26:36
> To: 
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach 
> Post
> Gatornews from Junogator
>
>
> Anger? What anger? I was NEVER "angry". I'm was just concerned that his
> showboating ALMOST cost us the TD. Kicking or throwing the ball in the
> stands certainly deserves a penalty, but they wouldn't call a TD back for
> it. As far as getting over it, I'm already past it. Meyer is the coach and
> he knows best.
>
> Randy
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Oliver Barry" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:42 AM
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
> Post Gatornews from Junogator
>
>
>> Yes, Dustin Doe did a bad thing.  But, I have to wonder why all this 
>> anger
>> about it.
>>
>> Are we really as bad as Miami because Doe took two steps in a
>> "showboating"
>> style?
>>
>> Have we really become the manifestation of evil because of it?
>>
>> Where was all this anger last season when Brandon Spikes kicked the ball
>> into the stands?  Or, where was it a couple of years ago when Travis
>> McGriff
>> threw the ball in the stands.
>>
>> Doe made a boo boo.  So, let's get over it.  I would remind everyone that
>> was the first defensive touchdown of the year.  Leon, you were there,
>> didn't
>> you get sick of the cowbells?  Well, the whole team was.  Urban Meyer 
>> even
>> mentioned it later in some post-game interview.
>>
>> Have we forgotten this was the first time the Gators have won in
>> Starkeville
>> since 1985?  Wasn't that the Charlie Pell era?
>>
>> Randy, I'm not just trying to pick on you here, but your email seemed 
>> like
>> a
>> good place to bring it up.
>>
>> No, we don't need to have any repeats of it.  But, yes, Urban Meyer will
>> deal with it.  Let's all get over it and congratulate the kid, after he
>> does
>> his stadium steps, of course...
>>
>>
>>
>> Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>>
>> Real Estate Broker
>>
>> Bob Parks Realty
>>
>> 1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>>
>> Gallatin TN 37066
>>
>> Phone: 615-826-4040
>>
>> Fax: 615-822-2027
>>
>> Mobile: 615-972-4239
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  _
>>
>> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Platt
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:03 AM
>> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
>> Post Gatornews from Junogator
>>
>>
>>
>> There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that it was fumble directly
>> related
>> to Doe's "showboating".  I believed it when I saw it live, I believed it
>> when I saw the replay live, and I believe it now.  For whatever reason 
>> you
>> want to lay blame, IMMHO, the refs blew the call.  I am grateful to the
>> football gods for allowing the Gators this good fortune.  I believe Doe's
>> antics are indeed reminders of SCUM teams of the past and it makes my 
>> skin
>> crawl to see one of my beloved Gators behave in this manner.  Shane is 
>> not
>> the only member of the "old school" philosophy, unfortunately I, too,  am
>> an
>> analog man living a digital world when it comes to the proper decorum on 
>> a
>> football field.  I am also reminded that you can't always get what you
>> want.
>> And while I certainly think that Doe should and will be punished for his
>> behavior, I truly believe that my opinion would not be greeted with
>> universal acceptance anymore than anyone else's would.  Therefore, I am
>>

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2009-10-28 Thread Gatornet Admin 

Never played it. Did you win? ;-)

Randy

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From: 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:45 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach 
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> Yes, but almost only counts in hand grenade toss. :-)
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Gatornet Admin" 
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:26:36
> To: 
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach 
> Post
> Gatornews from Junogator
>
>
> Anger? What anger? I was NEVER "angry". I'm was just concerned that his
> showboating ALMOST cost us the TD. Kicking or throwing the ball in the
> stands certainly deserves a penalty, but they wouldn't call a TD back for
> it. As far as getting over it, I'm already past it. Meyer is the coach and
> he knows best.
>
> Randy
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Oliver Barry" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:42 AM
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
> Post Gatornews from Junogator
>
>
>> Yes, Dustin Doe did a bad thing.  But, I have to wonder why all this 
>> anger
>> about it.
>>
>> Are we really as bad as Miami because Doe took two steps in a
>> "showboating"
>> style?
>>
>> Have we really become the manifestation of evil because of it?
>>
>> Where was all this anger last season when Brandon Spikes kicked the ball
>> into the stands?  Or, where was it a couple of years ago when Travis
>> McGriff
>> threw the ball in the stands.
>>
>> Doe made a boo boo.  So, let's get over it.  I would remind everyone that
>> was the first defensive touchdown of the year.  Leon, you were there,
>> didn't
>> you get sick of the cowbells?  Well, the whole team was.  Urban Meyer 
>> even
>> mentioned it later in some post-game interview.
>>
>> Have we forgotten this was the first time the Gators have won in
>> Starkeville
>> since 1985?  Wasn't that the Charlie Pell era?
>>
>> Randy, I'm not just trying to pick on you here, but your email seemed 
>> like
>> a
>> good place to bring it up.
>>
>> No, we don't need to have any repeats of it.  But, yes, Urban Meyer will
>> deal with it.  Let's all get over it and congratulate the kid, after he
>> does
>> his stadium steps, of course...
>>
>>
>>
>> Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>>
>> Real Estate Broker
>>
>> Bob Parks Realty
>>
>> 1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>>
>> Gallatin TN 37066
>>
>> Phone: 615-826-4040
>>
>> Fax: 615-822-2027
>>
>> Mobile: 615-972-4239
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  _
>>
>> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Platt
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:03 AM
>> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
>> Post Gatornews from Junogator
>>
>>
>>
>> There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that it was fumble directly
>> related
>> to Doe's "showboating".  I believed it when I saw it live, I believed it
>> when I saw the replay live, and I believe it now.  For whatever reason 
>> you
>> want to lay blame, IMMHO, the refs blew the call.  I am grateful to the
>> football gods for allowing the Gators this good fortune.  I believe Doe's
>> antics are indeed reminders of SCUM teams of the past and it makes my 
>> skin
>> crawl to see one of my beloved Gators behave in this manner.  Shane is 
>> not
>> the only member of the "old school" philosophy, unfortunately I, too,  am
>> an
>> analog man living a digital world when it comes to the proper decorum on 
>> a
>> football field.  I am also reminded that you can't always get what you
>> want.
>> And while I certainly think that Doe should and will be punished for his
>> behavior, I truly believe that my opinion would not be greeted with
>> universal acceptance anymore than anyone else's would.  Therefore, I am
>> more
>> than willing  to let Meyer make the call, since that what he gets paid 
>> for
>> anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> JAFO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Randy Platt
>>
>> aka "PCGator"
>>
>> aka "The Armchair Quarterback"
>>
>> ak

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2009-10-28 Thread oliver 
Yes, but almost only counts in hand grenade toss. :-)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Gatornet Admin" 
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:26:36 
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
 Gatornews from Junogator


Anger? What anger? I was NEVER "angry". I'm was just concerned that his 
showboating ALMOST cost us the TD. Kicking or throwing the ball in the 
stands certainly deserves a penalty, but they wouldn't call a TD back for 
it. As far as getting over it, I'm already past it. Meyer is the coach and 
he knows best.

Randy


- Original Message - 
From: "Oliver Barry" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:42 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach 
Post Gatornews from Junogator


> Yes, Dustin Doe did a bad thing.  But, I have to wonder why all this anger
> about it.
>
> Are we really as bad as Miami because Doe took two steps in a 
> "showboating"
> style?
>
> Have we really become the manifestation of evil because of it?
>
> Where was all this anger last season when Brandon Spikes kicked the ball
> into the stands?  Or, where was it a couple of years ago when Travis 
> McGriff
> threw the ball in the stands.
>
> Doe made a boo boo.  So, let's get over it.  I would remind everyone that
> was the first defensive touchdown of the year.  Leon, you were there, 
> didn't
> you get sick of the cowbells?  Well, the whole team was.  Urban Meyer even
> mentioned it later in some post-game interview.
>
> Have we forgotten this was the first time the Gators have won in 
> Starkeville
> since 1985?  Wasn't that the Charlie Pell era?
>
> Randy, I'm not just trying to pick on you here, but your email seemed like 
> a
> good place to bring it up.
>
> No, we don't need to have any repeats of it.  But, yes, Urban Meyer will
> deal with it.  Let's all get over it and congratulate the kid, after he 
> does
> his stadium steps, of course...
>
>
>
> Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
> Real Estate Broker
>
> Bob Parks Realty
>
> 1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
> Gallatin TN 37066
>
> Phone: 615-826-4040
>
> Fax: 615-822-2027
>
> Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
>
>
>
>
>  _
>
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Randy Platt
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:03 AM
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
> Post Gatornews from Junogator
>
>
>
> There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that it was fumble directly 
> related
> to Doe's "showboating".  I believed it when I saw it live, I believed it
> when I saw the replay live, and I believe it now.  For whatever reason you
> want to lay blame, IMMHO, the refs blew the call.  I am grateful to the
> football gods for allowing the Gators this good fortune.  I believe Doe's
> antics are indeed reminders of SCUM teams of the past and it makes my skin
> crawl to see one of my beloved Gators behave in this manner.  Shane is not
> the only member of the "old school" philosophy, unfortunately I, too,  am 
> an
> analog man living a digital world when it comes to the proper decorum on a
> football field.  I am also reminded that you can't always get what you 
> want.
> And while I certainly think that Doe should and will be punished for his
> behavior, I truly believe that my opinion would not be greeted with
> universal acceptance anymore than anyone else's would.  Therefore, I am 
> more
> than willing  to let Meyer make the call, since that what he gets paid for
> anyway.
>
>
>
> JAFO
>
>
>
>
>
> Randy Platt
>
> aka "PCGator"
>
> aka "The Armchair Quarterback"
>
> aka "The Other Randy, the one without nail fungus"
>
>
>
> Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Cecilia
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
> Post Gatornews from Junogator
>
>
>
> I agree with Steve AND Randy.  If Dustin had tucked that ball the way he 
> is
> supposed to and waited until after he crossed the goal line to relax/show
> off, we wouldn't be having this conversation.  We might be having one 
> about
> the 15 yard penalty he might have gotten for celebrating, but his 
> touchdown
> would not be in question.
>
>
>
> Cee
>
> - Original Message - 
>
> From: Gatornet Admin 
>
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:13 AM
>
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
> Post Gatornews from Junogator
>
>
>
> Agreed. And I STILL maintain his "showboating" is the whole reason we're
> arguing about this three days after the game. Hope he learns from this.
>
>
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
>
> From: Steve McKibben 
>
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>
> Sen

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2009-10-28 Thread Arthur Polhill 
Kick one more!

Go Mom!  Go Gators!
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 





From: "oli...@bobparks.com" 
To: Gator Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:09:28 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach 
PostGatornews from Junogator

Well, let's invoke the "Helen Rule" and move on to important business. 
Who has kicked their dog today? I know I have... Twice! I feel much better now. 
:-) 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From: Helen Huntley  
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:59:16 -0400
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post 
Gatornews from Junogator

I do not like thuggish behavior either. However, the part that made me upset 
was that he risked the security of the ball in the process. Behavior that 
results in fumbles, costly penalties, overturned TDs, etc. is the problem. I am 
happy to let Meyer decide how to handle it.


 
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Randy Platt  wrote:

Oliver,
>
>
>
>I know your are not picking on me.  And just for the record I didn't think
>much of Spike's punt, Caldwell or McGriff's throws into the stands, or
>Anthony's pump action shotgun routine from the SECCG..  I understand your are
>dealing with 18 - 23 year old young men and it doesn't always work out the
>way I think it should.  I also believe you need a little bit of thugery, not
>sure that is a word, to play great defense.  Another post for another time.
>I didn't like it, but I do understand it, so, I am over it and I am moving
>on, which was the real point I was trying to make.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Randy Platt
>
>aka "PCGator"
>
>aka "The Armchair Quarterback"
>
>aka "The Other Randy"
>
>
>
>
>Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Oliver Barry
>Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:42 AM
>
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
>Post Gatornews from Junogator
>
>
>
>Yes, Dustin Doe did a bad thing.  But, I have to wonder why all this anger
>about it.
>
>Are we really as bad as Miami because Doe took two steps in a "showboating"
>style?
>
>Have we really become the manifestation of evil because of it?
>
>Where was all this anger last season when Brandon Spikes kicked the ball
>into the stands?  Or, where was it a couple of years ago when Travis McGriff
>threw the ball in the stands.
>
>Doe made a boo boo.  So, let's get over it.  I would remind everyone that
>was the first defensive touchdown of the year.  Leon, you were there, didn't
>you get sick of the cowbells?  Well, the whole team was.  Urban Meyer even
>mentioned it later in some post-game interview.
>
>Have we forgotten this was the first time the Gators have won in Starkeville
>since 1985?  Wasn't that the Charlie Pell era?
>
>Randy, I'm not just trying to pick on you here, but your email seemed like a
>good place to bring it up.
>
>No, we don't need to have any repeats of it.  But, yes, Urban Meyer will
>deal with it.  Let's all get over it and congratulate the kid, after he does
>his stadium steps, of course...
>
>
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
>
>
>
>
> _
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Randy Platt
>Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:03 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
>Post Gatornews from Junogator
>
>
>
>There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that it was fumble directly related
>to Doe's "showboating".  I believed it when I saw it live, I believed it
>when I saw the replay live, and I believe it now.  For whatever reason you
>want to lay blame, IMMHO, the refs blew the call.  I am grateful to the
>football gods for allowing the Gators this good fortune.  I believe Doe's
>antics are indeed reminders of SCUM teams of the past and it makes my skin
>crawl to see one of my beloved Gators behave in this manner.  Shane is not
>the only member of the "old school" philosophy, unfortunately I, too,  am an
>analog man living a digital world when it comes to the proper decorum on a
>football field.  

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2009-10-28 Thread Cecilia 
I'm saving all Gator kicks for the most disgusting Dawgs in the universe.  ;-)

Cee
  - Original Message - 
  From: oli...@bobparks.com 
  To: Gator Talk 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:09 PM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach 
PostGatornews from Junogator


  Well, let's invoke the "Helen Rule" and move on to important business. 
  Who has kicked their dog today? I know I have... Twice! I feel much better 
now. :-)
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


--

  From: Helen Huntley  
  Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:59:16 -0400
  To: 
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post 
Gatornews from Junogator


  I do not like thuggish behavior either. However, the part that made me upset 
was that he risked the security of the ball in the process. Behavior that 
results in fumbles, costly penalties, overturned TDs, etc. is the problem. I am 
happy to let Meyer decide how to handle it.


   
  On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Randy Platt  wrote:

Oliver,



I know your are not picking on me.  And just for the record I didn't think
much of Spike's punt, Caldwell or McGriff's throws into the stands, or
Anthony's pump action shotgun routine from the SECCG.  I understand your are
dealing with 18 - 23 year old young men and it doesn't always work out the
way I think it should.  I also believe you need a little bit of thugery, not
sure that is a word, to play great defense.  Another post for another time.
I didn't like it, but I do understand it, so, I am over it and I am moving
on, which was the real point I was trying to make.






Randy Platt

aka "PCGator"

aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

aka "The Other Randy"




Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!













From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On

Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:42 AM

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
Post Gatornews from Junogator



Yes, Dustin Doe did a bad thing.  But, I have to wonder why all this anger
about it.

Are we really as bad as Miami because Doe took two steps in a "showboating"
style?

Have we really become the manifestation of evil because of it?

Where was all this anger last season when Brandon Spikes kicked the ball
into the stands?  Or, where was it a couple of years ago when Travis McGriff
threw the ball in the stands.

Doe made a boo boo.  So, let's get over it.  I would remind everyone that
was the first defensive touchdown of the year.  Leon, you were there, didn't
you get sick of the cowbells?  Well, the whole team was.  Urban Meyer even
mentioned it later in some post-game interview.

Have we forgotten this was the first time the Gators have won in Starkeville
since 1985?  Wasn't that the Charlie Pell era?

Randy, I'm not just trying to pick on you here, but your email seemed like a
good place to bring it up.

No, we don't need to have any repeats of it.  But, yes, Urban Meyer will
deal with it.  Let's all get over it and congratulate the kid, after he does
his stadium steps, of course...



Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Platt
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:03 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that it was fumble directly related
to Doe's "showboating".  I believed it when I saw it live, I believed it
when I saw the replay live, and I believe it now.  For whatever reason you
want to lay blame, IMMHO, the refs blew the call.  I am grateful to the
football gods for allowing the Gators this good fortune.  I believe Doe's
antics are indeed reminders of SCUM teams of the past and it makes my skin
crawl to see one of my beloved Gators behave in this manner.  Shane is not
the only member of the "old school" philosophy, unfortunately I, too,  am an
analog man living a digital world when it comes to the proper decorum on a
football field.  I am also reminded that you can't always get what you want.
And while I certainly think that Doe should and will be punished for his
behavior, I truly believe that my opinion would not

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2009-10-28 Thread oliver 
Well, let's invoke the "Helen Rule" and move on to important business. 
Who has kicked their dog today?  I know I have...  Twice!  I feel much better 
now.  :-)
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From: Helen Huntley 
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:59:16 
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach  Post
 Gatornews from Junogator

I do not like thuggish behavior either. However, the part that made me upset
was that he risked the security of the ball in the process. Behavior that
results in fumbles, costly penalties, overturned TDs, etc. is the problem. I
am happy to let Meyer decide how to handle it.



On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Randy Platt wrote:

> Oliver,
>
>
>
> I know your are not picking on me.  And just for the record I didn't think
> much of Spike's punt, Caldwell or McGriff's throws into the stands, or
> Anthony's pump action shotgun routine from the SECCG.  I understand your
> are
> dealing with 18 - 23 year old young men and it doesn't always work out the
> way I think it should.  I also believe you need a little bit of thugery,
> not
> sure that is a word, to play great defense.  Another post for another time.
> I didn't like it, but I do understand it, so, I am over it and I am moving
> on, which was the real point I was trying to make.
>
>
>
>
>
> Randy Platt
>
> aka "PCGator"
>
> aka "The Armchair Quarterback"
>
> aka "The Other Randy"
>
>
>
> Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Oliver Barry
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:42 AM
>  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
> Post Gatornews from Junogator
>
>
>
> Yes, Dustin Doe did a bad thing.  But, I have to wonder why all this anger
> about it.
>
> Are we really as bad as Miami because Doe took two steps in a "showboating"
> style?
>
> Have we really become the manifestation of evil because of it?
>
> Where was all this anger last season when Brandon Spikes kicked the ball
> into the stands?  Or, where was it a couple of years ago when Travis
> McGriff
> threw the ball in the stands.
>
> Doe made a boo boo.  So, let's get over it.  I would remind everyone that
> was the first defensive touchdown of the year.  Leon, you were there,
> didn't
> you get sick of the cowbells?  Well, the whole team was.  Urban Meyer even
> mentioned it later in some post-game interview.
>
> Have we forgotten this was the first time the Gators have won in
> Starkeville
> since 1985?  Wasn't that the Charlie Pell era?
>
> Randy, I'm not just trying to pick on you here, but your email seemed like
> a
> good place to bring it up.
>
> No, we don't need to have any repeats of it.  But, yes, Urban Meyer will
> deal with it.  Let's all get over it and congratulate the kid, after he
> does
> his stadium steps, of course...
>
>
>
> Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
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>
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>
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>
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>  _
>
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Randy Platt
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:03 AM
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
> Post Gatornews from Junogator
>
>
>
> There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that it was fumble directly related
> to Doe's "showboating".  I believed it when I saw it live, I believed it
> when I saw the replay live, and I believe it now.  For whatever reason you
> want to lay blame, IMMHO, the refs blew the call.  I am grateful to the
> football gods for allowing the Gators this good fortune.  I believe Doe's
> antics are indeed reminders of SCUM teams of the past and it makes my skin
> crawl to see one of my beloved Gators behave in this manner.  Shane is not
> the only member of the "old school" philosophy, unfortunately I, too,  am
> an
> analog man living a digital world when it comes to the proper decorum on a
> football field.  I am also reminded that you can't always get what you
> want.
> And while I certainly think that Doe should and will be punished for his
> behavior, I truly believe that my opinion would not be greeted with
> universal acceptance anymore than anyone else's would.  Therefore, I am
> more
> than willing  to let Meyer make the call, since that what he gets paid for
> anyway.
>
>
>
> JAFO
>
>
>
>
>
> Randy Platt
>
> aka "PCGator"
>
> aka "The Armchair Quarterback"
>
> aka "The Other Randy, the one without nail fungus"
>
>
>
> Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Cecilia
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
> Post G

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2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Belloit 
I was actually out of town until the last quarter.  I was too disappointed
with the end of the game that I just erased the whole thing.  I was thankful
that we and Alabama won. 

 

Jerry

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:24 PM
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PostGatornews from Junogator

 

You're exactly right, Jerry. Except for one thing, be happy you erased that
game. It would be just too painful to watch again!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: Jerry Belloit  

Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:02:33 -0400

To: 

Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach
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I want to take exception to what Dan Mullen is complaining about here.  I
thought the call was close.  I saw the replays and on one of the angles it
looked like he was stripped of the ball before the ball "broke the plane" of
the goal line.  However, none of the angles were definitive.  The official
on the field looked to be perfectly placed on the field to make the call.  I
don't think the video evidence was definitive.  I find it hard to argue that
both officials were "clearly" in error.

 

Unfortunately, I erased the game so I cannot revisit the replays.  I do
remember that the network tried to make it out as a poor call by using some
sort of a composite image, but they could not account for the angle of the
camera.  In horseracing, the camera is placed exactly on the finish line.
The cameras were not on the goal line on Saturday.  Do any of you that still
have the game recorded think that he was clearly stripped of the ball before
breaking the plane?

 

Jerry

 

From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Juno Gator
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 7:23 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post Gatornews from
Junogator

 

 

 


SEC officials blasted again after another controversial call benefits
Florida Gators


BY JOSEPH GOODMAN  




The Florida Gators have been struggling in the red zone, but that doesn't
mean the team, ranked No. 1 in the country again, can't catch a break near
the goal line.

For the second week in a row, the Gators find themselves in the middle of an
officiating controversy after again coming out on the favorable side of a
judgment call by a Southeastern Conference official that led to a UF score. 

On Sunday, Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen, UF's former offensive
coordinator, lashed out at SEC officiating after what he believed was an
incorrect call that resulted in a fourth-quarter touchdown for the Gators
during Saturday's 29-19 victory in Starkville, Miss.

On Saturday night at Scott Field, Florida led Mississippi State 22-13 with
less than nine minutes to play when UF linebacker Dustin Doe intercepted a
deflected a pass and returned it for a touchdown. Doe, who began celebrating
before he reached the end zone, was stripped at the goal line by Bulldogs
receiver Brandon McRae. McRae recovered the ball in the end zone after a
line judge signaled a Florida touchdown. 

After a lengthy review, an SEC replay official upheld the touchdown. Mullen
said he spent early Sunday morning reviewing the play and determined, in his
opinion, that the replay official missed the call.

``There's no excuse for a guy who has the amount of time to replay the video
to make sure they get the call right,'' Mullen said. ``That's why we have
instant replay, and I think it's embarrassing that they blew that call. I've
seen still shots of the ball out of [Doe's] hand. I don't think that's
acceptable on a [replay] guy that has the ability to watch all the different
angles.''




 


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2009-10-26 Thread oliver 
You're exactly right, Jerry.  Except for one thing, be happy you erased that 
game. It would be just too painful to watch again!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Jerry Belloit 
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:02:33 
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
 Gatornews from Junogator

I want to take exception to what Dan Mullen is complaining about here.  I
thought the call was close.  I saw the replays and on one of the angles it
looked like he was stripped of the ball before the ball "broke the plane" of
the goal line.  However, none of the angles were definitive.  The official
on the field looked to be perfectly placed on the field to make the call.  I
don't think the video evidence was definitive.  I find it hard to argue that
both officials were "clearly" in error.

 

Unfortunately, I erased the game so I cannot revisit the replays.  I do
remember that the network tried to make it out as a poor call by using some
sort of a composite image, but they could not account for the angle of the
camera.  In horseracing, the camera is placed exactly on the finish line.
The cameras were not on the goal line on Saturday.  Do any of you that still
have the game recorded think that he was clearly stripped of the ball before
breaking the plane?

 

Jerry

 

From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Juno Gator
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 7:23 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post Gatornews from
Junogator

 

 

 


SEC officials blasted again after another controversial call benefits
Florida Gators


BY JOSEPH GOODMAN  




The Florida Gators have been struggling in the red zone, but that doesn't
mean the team, ranked No. 1 in the country again, can't catch a break near
the goal line.

For the second week in a row, the Gators find themselves in the middle of an
officiating controversy after again coming out on the favorable side of a
judgment call by a Southeastern Conference official that led to a UF score. 

On Sunday, Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen, UF's former offensive
coordinator, lashed out at SEC officiating after what he believed was an
incorrect call that resulted in a fourth-quarter touchdown for the Gators
during Saturday's 29-19 victory in Starkville, Miss.

On Saturday night at Scott Field, Florida led Mississippi State 22-13 with
less than nine minutes to play when UF linebacker Dustin Doe intercepted a
deflected a pass and returned it for a touchdown. Doe, who began celebrating
before he reached the end zone, was stripped at the goal line by Bulldogs
receiver Brandon McRae. McRae recovered the ball in the end zone after a
line judge signaled a Florida touchdown. 

After a lengthy review, an SEC replay official upheld the touchdown. Mullen
said he spent early Sunday morning reviewing the play and determined, in his
opinion, that the replay official missed the call.

``There's no excuse for a guy who has the amount of time to replay the video
to make sure they get the call right,'' Mullen said. ``That's why we have
instant replay, and I think it's embarrassing that they blew that call. I've
seen still shots of the ball out of [Doe's] hand. I don't think that's
acceptable on a [replay] guy that has the ability to watch all the different
angles.''





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GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---