[gatortalk] Re: Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-)
That's what everyone thought last year until they played Iowa. The Pac 10 will be more competitive this year due to the fact that USC is rebuilding, but also because Cal, UCLA and Oregon will all be better. The Big Televen will still be weak, but there are some tough outs in that league too. Illinois can beat anyone, Michigan is a year away but has the ability to rise up and bite you, Wisconsin always plays tough, and this year Minnesota will be playing in a new on-campus outdoor stadium, so that might make for some interesting late season games. I don't think anyone has an easy path to an undefeated season, if they make it, more power to them. Ken MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:18 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-) The PAC10 and Big 10 have the easiest paths to the BCS. The only good team teat Penn State plays is OSU. They win that game - and they are undefeated - versus a (most likely) 1 loss SEC team Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-) From: "Ken Kirkley" Date: Mon, August 24, 2009 10:23 am To: This suprises me somewhat. No objective observer is even talking about USC in the top spot. They are starting a new QB, clearly a year ahead of what Carroll wanted. They lost 8 of their defensive starters to the NFL, and they're supposed to be better this year? While USC has good depth, they do have a few tough games this year. There is simply no explanation to put them at #1. I predict USC will lose at OSU, Cal and Oregon and will have a tough game against UCLA. Ken MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:18 AM To: gatortalk googlegroups Subject: [gatortalk] Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-) http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt09.htm He always starts the year with a huge bias towards Big 10 and Pac 10. But give him credit - this bias usually disappears by the end of the year. 1 Southern California A = 95.750 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 95.75195.751 2 Florida A = 93.950 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 93.95293.952 3 Oklahoma A = 92.190 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 92.19392.193 4 TexasA = 90.950 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 90.95490.954 5 Ohio State A = 89.290 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 89.29589.295 6 LSU A = 88.550 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 88.55688.556 7 Georgia A = 86.590 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 86.59786.597 8 Penn State A = 86.580 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 86.58886.588 9 Virginia TechA = 85.980 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 85.98985.989 10 Oregon A = 85.070 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 85.07 1085.07 10 USC (PAC 10) is #1 and Oregon #10 OSU and PSU (Big 10) Three SEC teams Two Big 12 Only one ACC team His conference rankings are 1 SOUTHEASTERN(A) = 79.76 80.15 ( 1) 12 2 PAC-10 (A) = 78.30 78.50 ( 2) 10 3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.25 78.30 ( 3) 12 4 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 77.64 77.42 ( 4) 12 5 BIG EAST(A) = 76.34 75.89 ( 6) 8 6 BIG TEN (A) = 75.93 76.23 ( 5) 11 7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 71.28 71.79 ( 7) 9 8 I-A INDEPENDENTS(A) = 69.48 68.35 ( 8) 3 9 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 64.56 64.63 ( 9) 12 10 WESTERN ATHLETIC(A) = 63.59 64.02 ( 10) 9 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm his top 10 conferences for last season are 1 SOUTHEASTERN(A) = 78.31 79.08 ( 1) 12 2 BIG 12 (A) = 77.86 77.80 ( 2) 12 3 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 77.70 77.67 ( 3) 12 4 PAC-10 (A) = 76.14 75.39 ( 4) 10 5 BIG EAST(A) = 75.23 74.11 ( 5) 8 6 BIG TEN (A) = 73.21 73.49 ( 6) 11 7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 70.90 71.72 ( 7) 9 8 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 65.88 65.75 ( 8) 12 9 I-A INDEPENDENTS(A) = 64.26 63.74 ( 10) 4 10 WESTERN ATHLETIC(A) = 63.91 64.18 ( 9) 9 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO
[gatortalk] Re: Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-)
The PAC10 and Big 10 have the easiest paths to the BCS. The only good team teat Penn State plays is OSU. They win that game - and they are undefeated - versus a (most likely) 1 loss SEC team Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out:-)From: "Ken Kirkley" Date: Mon, August 24, 2009 10:23 amTo: This suprises me somewhat. No objective observer is even talking about USC in the top spot. They are starting a new QB, clearly a year ahead of what Carroll wanted. They lost 8 of their defensive starters to the NFL, and they're supposed to be better this year? While USC has good depth, they do have a few tough games this year. There is simply no explanation to put them at #1. I predict USC will lose at OSU, Cal and Oregon and will have a tough game against UCLA. Ken MNGator From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.comSent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:18 AMTo: gatortalk googlegroupsSubject: [gatortalk] Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-) http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt09.htm He always starts the year with a huge bias towards Big 10 and Pac 10. But give him credit - this bias usually disappears by the end of the year. 1 Southern California A = 95.75 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 95.75 1 95.75 1 2 Florida A = 93.95 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 93.95 2 93.95 2 3 Oklahoma A = 92.19 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 92.19 3 92.19 3 4 Texas A = 90.95 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 90.95 4 90.95 4 5 Ohio State A = 89.29 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 89.29 5 89.29 5 6 LSU A = 88.55 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 88.55 6 88.55 6 7 Georgia A = 86.59 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 86.59 7 86.59 7 8 Penn State A = 86.58 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 86.58 8 86.58 8 9 Virginia Tech A = 85.98 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 85.98 9 85.98 9 10 Oregon A = 85.07 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 85.07 10 85.07 10 USC (PAC 10) is #1 and Oregon #10 OSU and PSU (Big 10) Three SEC teams Two Big 12 Only one ACC team His conference rankings are 1 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 79.76 80.15 ( 1) 12 2 PAC-10 (A) = 78.30 78.50 ( 2) 10 3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.25 78.30 ( 3) 12 4 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 77.64 77.42 ( 4) 12 5 BIG EAST (A) = 76.34 75.89 ( 6) 8 6 BIG TEN (A) = 75.93 76.23 ( 5) 11 7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 71.28 71.79 ( 7) 9 8 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 69.48 68.35 ( 8) 3 9 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 64.56 64.63 ( 9) 12 10 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A) = 63.59 64.02 ( 10) 9 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm his top 10 conferences for last season are 1 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 78.31 79.08 ( 1) 12 2 BIG 12 (A) = 77.86 77.80 ( 2) 12 3 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 77.70 77.67 ( 3) 12 4 PAC-10 (A) = 76.14 75.39 ( 4) 10 5 BIG EAST (A) = 75.23 74.11 ( 5) 8 6 BIG TEN (A) = 73.21 73.49 ( 6) 11 7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 70.90 71.72 ( 7) 9 8 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 65.88 65.75 ( 8) 12 9 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 64.26 63.74 ( 10) 4 10 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A) = 63.91 64.18 ( 9) 9 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-)
This suprises me somewhat. No objective observer is even talking about USC in the top spot. They are starting a new QB, clearly a year ahead of what Carroll wanted. They lost 8 of their defensive starters to the NFL, and they're supposed to be better this year? While USC has good depth, they do have a few tough games this year. There is simply no explanation to put them at #1. I predict USC will lose at OSU, Cal and Oregon and will have a tough game against UCLA. Ken MNGator _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:18 AM To: gatortalk googlegroups Subject: [gatortalk] Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-) http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt09.htm He always starts the year with a huge bias towards Big 10 and Pac 10. But give him credit - this bias usually disappears by the end of the year. 1 Southern California A = 95.750 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 95.75195.751 2 Florida A = 93.950 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 93.95293.952 3 Oklahoma A = 92.190 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 92.19392.193 4 TexasA = 90.950 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 90.95490.954 5 Ohio State A = 89.290 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 89.29589.295 6 LSU A = 88.550 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 88.55688.556 7 Georgia A = 86.590 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 86.59786.597 8 Penn State A = 86.580 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 86.58886.588 9 Virginia TechA = 85.980 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 85.98985.989 10 Oregon A = 85.070 00.00( 0)0 0 | 0 0 | 85.07 1085.07 10 USC (PAC 10) is #1 and Oregon #10 OSU and PSU (Big 10) Three SEC teams Two Big 12 Only one ACC team His conference rankings are 1 SOUTHEASTERN(A) = 79.76 80.15 ( 1) 12 2 PAC-10 (A) = 78.30 78.50 ( 2) 10 3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.25 78.30 ( 3) 12 4 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 77.64 77.42 ( 4) 12 5 BIG EAST(A) = 76.34 75.89 ( 6) 8 6 BIG TEN (A) = 75.93 76.23 ( 5) 11 7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 71.28 71.79 ( 7) 9 8 I-A INDEPENDENTS(A) = 69.48 68.35 ( 8) 3 9 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 64.56 64.63 ( 9) 12 10 WESTERN ATHLETIC(A) = 63.59 64.02 ( 10) 9 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm his top 10 conferences for last season are 1 SOUTHEASTERN(A) = 78.31 79.08 ( 1) 12 2 BIG 12 (A) = 77.86 77.80 ( 2) 12 3 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 77.70 77.67 ( 3) 12 4 PAC-10 (A) = 76.14 75.39 ( 4) 10 5 BIG EAST(A) = 75.23 74.11 ( 5) 8 6 BIG TEN (A) = 73.21 73.49 ( 6) 11 7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 70.90 71.72 ( 7) 9 8 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 65.88 65.75 ( 8) 12 9 I-A INDEPENDENTS(A) = 64.26 63.74 ( 10) 4 10 WESTERN ATHLETIC(A) = 63.91 64.18 ( 9) 9 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
