Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

[Arthur Polhill]

Oh...THAT Woody!
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Jay Cicone 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 6:04:09 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring 
golf, 
SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]


I thought Woody made possible the construction on the Men’s Clinic on campus?
 
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Arthur Polhill
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:02 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring 
golf, 
SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]
 
I haven't seen any figures on UF's ticket sales.  However, Paula and I did 
qualify for Tennessee away tickets this year for the first time which verifies 
that UT is having trouble with ticket sales.  I immediately saw the fact that 
Woody got season tickets as a sign that UF ticket demand is soft as well.  No 
offense meant, Woody.  It's just that you hadn't mentioned that you had donated 
a building to UF.
 
A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
 
 



From:Helen Huntley 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 9:18:09 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf, 
SEC 
talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]
So has anybody seen numbers on UF season ticket orders? I wonder if the only 
reason our sales are not down is that demand has always exceeded supply and 
this 
year we simply filled more the demand (like Woody's order).
What about the rivalry rankings? I think leading up to the Alabama game, it 
will 
seem like the No. 1 rivalry, but Georgia is still tops with me. FSU still has 
to 
prove it's back.
 
**
15. Another topic that is sure to result in some questions out in Hoover is the 
lagging season ticket sales at several SEC schools. Georgia, South Carolina and 
Tennessee are all down this year. Is it the economy or a lack of expectations 
or 
both? Is there any way to blame BP for the drop?
16. People like to get on the SEC for scheduling cupcakes and there is plenty 
of 
icing been spread around this year's schedules. But the Big 12 gets the 
softness 
award for scheduling only 12 of its 48 non-conference games against BCS teams. 
(The SEC has 16 of 48). Maybe we're starting to understand those lagging season 
ticket sales.
17. I brought this up on my radio show and offer it up to the Gator Nation. 
It's 
my contention that Florida's rivalries change in importance depending on what's 
going on with those schools. And right now I'd rank them this way — 1. FSU, 2. 
Alabama, 3. Georgia, 4. Tennessee. The Vols are harmless but the Seminoles 
believe they are back. That makes venom spew more freely. Discuss.
 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Shane Ford  wrote:
Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals

By Pat Dooley
Gainesville SUN sports writer
Published: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 
Last Modified: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 
 
 
Summer is over for the Back Nine because it's football season. Pay no attention 
to the humidity or the fact that it is July. It's football season. Because I 
said so.
 
10. Is it a conspiracy? Did the world's golfers get together and decide to try 
to ruin my summer? Seriously. OK, maybe my life is a vapid waste of brain cells 
but one of the real joys of summer is waking up early and watching the British 
Open. It was so boring, well, so boring I didn't watch much. Instead, I went to 
the beach and had a couple of Oosthuizens. Oh, wait, that's the guy who won. 
After a U.S. Open that failed to deliver the British was 10 times more boring. 
On the way to Daytona Beach, we went by a couple of sod farms and I joked that 
if one of those farmers was asked what he does for a living he'd say, "I watch 
grass grow." Which would have been twice as interesting as watching this Open. 
I 
like Louis Oosthuizen. Seems like a good guy. Great golf swing which makes me 
wonder why he missed the cut in seven of his previous eight majors. But Sunday 
was a drag. Bad production values and way too much love for the mystique of the 
tourney. That I could have lived with if there was interesting golf. Like, say, 
Tiger Woods could still play.
11. We find ourselves wondering about the biggest reason we turn the TV on to 
watch golf. Woods was very average all week. When he switched putters it 
sounded 
like the act of a desperate man. I'm not ready to write him off but I am going 
to say he's not back, not really that close. St. Andrews was supposed to be his 
return to the throne. So was Pebble Beac

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

[Jay Cicone]

I thought Woody made possible the construction on the Men's Clinic on
campus?

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:02 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some
boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

 

I haven't seen any figures on UF's ticket sales.  However, Paula and I
did qualify for Tennessee away tickets this year for the first time
which verifies that UT is having trouble with ticket sales.  I
immediately saw the fact that Woody got season tickets as a sign that UF
ticket demand is soft as well.  No offense meant, Woody.  It's just that
you hadn't mentioned that you had donated a building to UF.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

 

 



From: Helen Huntley 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 9:18:09 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring
golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

So has anybody seen numbers on UF season ticket orders? I wonder if the
only reason our sales are not down is that demand has always exceeded
supply and this year we simply filled more the demand (like Woody's
order).

What about the rivalry rankings? I think leading up to the Alabama game,
it will seem like the No. 1 rivalry, but Georgia is still tops with me.
FSU still has to prove it's back.

 

**

15. Another topic that is sure to result in some questions out in Hoover
is the lagging season ticket sales at several SEC schools. Georgia,
South Carolina and Tennessee are all down this year. Is it the economy
or a lack of expectations or both? Is there any way to blame BP for the
drop?

16. People like to get on the SEC for scheduling cupcakes and there is
plenty of icing been spread around this year's schedules. But the Big 12
gets the softness award for scheduling only 12 of its 48 non-conference
games against BCS teams. (The SEC has 16 of 48). Maybe we're starting to
understand those lagging season ticket sales.

17. I brought this up on my radio show and offer it up to the Gator
Nation. It's my contention that Florida's rivalries change in importance
depending on what's going on with those schools. And right now I'd rank
them this way - 1. FSU, 2. Alabama, 3. Georgia, 4. Tennessee. The Vols
are harmless but the Seminoles believe they are back. That makes venom
spew more freely. Discuss.

 

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Shane Ford 
wrote:


Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals



By Pat Dooley <mailto:dool...@gvillesun.com> 
Gainesville SUN sports writer

Published: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 
Last Modified: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 

 

 

Summer is over for the Back Nine because it's football season. Pay no
attention to the humidity or the fact that it is July. It's football
season. Because I said so.

 

10. Is it a conspiracy? Did the world's golfers get together and decide
to try to ruin my summer? Seriously. OK, maybe my life is a vapid waste
of brain cells but one of the real joys of summer is waking up early and
watching the British Open. It was so boring, well, so boring I didn't
watch much. Instead, I went to the beach and had a couple of
Oosthuizens. Oh, wait, that's the guy who won. After a U.S. Open that
failed to deliver the British was 10 times more boring. On the way to
Daytona Beach, we went by a couple of sod farms and I joked that if one
of those farmers was asked what he does for a living he'd say, "I watch
grass grow." Which would have been twice as interesting as watching this
Open. I like Louis Oosthuizen. Seems like a good guy. Great golf swing
which makes me wonder why he missed the cut in seven of his previous
eight majors. But Sunday was a drag. Bad production values and way too
much love for the mystique of the tourney. That I could have lived with
if there was interesting golf. Like, say, Tiger Woods could still play.

11. We find ourselves wondering about the biggest reason we turn the TV
on to watch golf. Woods was very average all week. When he switched
putters it sounded like the act of a desperate man. I'm not ready to
write him off but I am going to say he's not back, not really that
close. St. Andrews was supposed to be his return to the throne. So was
Pebble Beach. But the truth is the mental strain seems to have taken its
toll on the world's No. 1 golfer. Phil Mickelson? I have no explanation
for the way he played, especially the iron he hooked out of bounds on
Saturday.

12. There was one great moment on Friday and that was when Tom Watson
kissed the Swilcan Bridge on 18 and took one final ovation at the old
course. Watson said he&#

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

[Arthur Polhill]

I haven't seen any figures on UF's ticket sales.  However, Paula and I did 
qualify for Tennessee away tickets this year for the first time which verifies 
that UT is having trouble with ticket sales.  I immediately saw the fact that 
Woody got season tickets as a sign that UF ticket demand is soft as well.  No 
offense meant, Woody.  It's just that you hadn't mentioned that you had donated 
a building to UF.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Helen Huntley 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 9:18:09 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf, 
SEC 
talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]


So has anybody seen numbers on UF season ticket orders? I wonder if the only 
reason our sales are not down is that demand has always exceeded supply and 
this 
year we simply filled more the demand (like Woody's order).
What about the rivalry rankings? I think leading up to the Alabama game, it 
will 
seem like the No. 1 rivalry, but Georgia is still tops with me. FSU still has 
to 
prove it's back.

**
15. Another topic that is sure to result in some questions out in Hoover is the 
lagging season ticket sales at several SEC schools. Georgia, South Carolina and 
Tennessee are all down this year. Is it the economy or a lack of expectations 
or 
both? Is there any way to blame BP for the drop?
16. People like to get on the SEC for scheduling cupcakes and there is plenty 
of 
icing been spread around this year's schedules. But the Big 12 gets the 
softness 
award for scheduling only 12 of its 48 non-conference games against BCS teams. 
(The SEC has 16 of 48). Maybe we're starting to understand those lagging season 
ticket sales.
17. I brought this up on my radio show and offer it up to the Gator Nation. 
It's 
my contention that Florida's rivalries change in importance depending on what's 
going on with those schools. And right now I'd rank them this way — 1. FSU, 2. 
Alabama, 3. Georgia, 4. Tennessee. The Vols are harmless but the Seminoles 
believe they are back. That makes venom spew more freely. Discuss.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Shane Ford  wrote:

Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals
>
>By Pat Dooley
>Gainesville SUN sports writer
>Published: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 
>Last Modified: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 
> 
> 
>Summer is over for the Back Nine because it's football season. Pay no 
>attention 
>to the humidity or the fact that it is July. It's football season. Because I 
>said so.
> 
>10. Is it a conspiracy? Did the world's golfers get together and decide to try 
>to ruin my summer? Seriously. OK, maybe my life is a vapid waste of brain 
>cells 
>but one of the real joys of summer is waking up early and watching the British 
>Open. It was so boring, well, so boring I didn't watch much. Instead, I went 
>to 
>the beach and had a couple of Oosthuizens. Oh, wait, that's the guy who won. 
>After a U.S. Open that failed to deliver the British was 10 times more boring. 
>On the way to Daytona Beach, we went by a couple of sod farms and I joked that 
>if one of those farmers was asked what he does for a living he'd say, "I watch 
>grass grow." Which would have been twice as interesting as watching this Open. 
>I 
>like Louis Oosthuizen. Seems like a good guy. Great golf swing which makes me 
>wonder why he missed the cut in seven of his previous eight majors. But Sunday 
>was a drag. Bad production values and way too much love for the mystique of 
>the 
>tourney. That I could have lived with if there was interesting golf. Like, 
>say, 
>Tiger Woods could still play.
>11. We find ourselves wondering about the biggest reason we turn the TV on to 
>watch golf. Woods was very average all week. When he switched putters it 
>sounded 
>like the act of a desperate man. I'm not ready to write him off but I am going 
>to say he's not back, not really that close. St. Andrews was supposed to be 
>his 
>return to the throne. So was Pebble Beach. But the truth is the mental strain 
>seems to have taken its toll on the world's No. 1 golfer. Phil Mickelson? I 
>have 
>no explanation for the way he played, especially the iron he hooked out of 
>bounds on Saturday.
>12. There was one great moment on Friday and that was when Tom Watson kissed 
>the 
>Swilcan Bridge on 18 and took one final ovation at the old course. Watson said 
>he's not done with the tournament but he knows he's probably played his last 
>British Open at St. Andrews. It was touching. And kudos to Tiger for letting 
>Watson's group play up. Watson has been one of Tiger's biggest critics, but 
>there are times when you have to let those things go.
>13. Speaking of which, Michael Jordan needs to back off his criticism of 
>LeBron 
>James. Jordan said he wouldn't have gotten together with other superstars to 
>form a super team like James d

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

[Oliver Barry]

I'd say Bammy has been a rival since the first SEC championship game.
Remember the twenty million dollar interception?  We almost beat them in
Birmingham.  And, the second year we did!

For them, I'd say we've been a rival since 1991 when Steve Spurrier's first
team went to Tuscaloosa and whipped them like they were Vanderbilt.  They
may not admit it, but they've hated our guts since then.  If you don't think
so, be there at the end of a Florida/bammy game when they've won.  It's like
they won the national championship or something.

Of course, beating Georgia is still the highlight of the season for me.  It
always will be.  Before that game I'm always a little more agitated, always
a little more nervous, always ready to go out and kick something!  Arrgh!!!
I'm getting excited just writing about it!!!  Let's go play some football!!!


 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:29 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring
golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

 

Top  Rivalries??

1.  Georgia
2.  Jawga
3.  UGA
4.  scum
5.  SOW

 

Alabama doesn't even appear on the list.  Dooley may sway with the wind on
who is a rival, but Bama has not been a traditional rival and while both
their program and ours are peaking at the same time, it will have to
continue like this for the next 5 or 6 years for it to become a true
rivalry.  As it stands now, we wont play them for 4 more years after this
year unless they can make it back to the SECC to meet us in our rightful
position.

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:18 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf,
SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

 

So has anybody seen numbers on UF season ticket orders? I wonder if the only
reason our sales are not down is that demand has always exceeded supply and
this year we simply filled more the demand (like Woody's order).

What about the rivalry rankings? I think leading up to the Alabama game, it
will seem like the No. 1 rivalry, but Georgia is still tops with me. FSU
still has to prove it's back.

 

**

15. Another topic that is sure to result in some questions out in Hoover is
the lagging season ticket sales at several SEC schools. Georgia, South
Carolina and Tennessee are all down this year. Is it the economy or a lack
of expectations or both? Is there any way to blame BP for the drop?

16. People like to get on the SEC for scheduling cupcakes and there is
plenty of icing been spread around this year's schedules. But the Big 12
gets the softness award for scheduling only 12 of its 48 non-conference
games against BCS teams. (The SEC has 16 of 48). Maybe we're starting to
understand those lagging season ticket sales.

17. I brought this up on my radio show and offer it up to the Gator Nation.
It's my contention that Florida's rivalries change in importance depending
on what's going on with those schools. And right now I'd rank them this way
- 1. FSU, 2. Alabama, 3. Georgia, 4. Tennessee. The Vols are harmless but
the Seminoles believe they are back. That makes venom spew more freely.
Discuss.

 

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Shane Ford  wrote:


Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals



By Pat Dooley <mailto:dool...@gvillesun.com> 
Gainesville SUN sports writer

Published: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 
Last Modified: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 

 

 

Summer is over for the Back Nine because it's football season. Pay no
attention to the humidity or the fact that it is July. It's football season.
Because I said so.

 

10. Is it a conspiracy? Did the world's golfers get together and decide to
try to ruin my summer? Seriously. OK, maybe my life is a vapid waste of
brain cells but one of the real joys of summer is waking up early and
watching the British Open. It was so boring, well, so boring I didn't watch
much. Instead, I went to the beach and had a couple of Oosthuizens. Oh,
wait, that's the guy who won. After a U.S. Open that failed to deliver the
British was 10 times more boring. On the way to Daytona Beach, we went by a
couple of sod farms and I joked that if one of those farmers was asked what
he does for a living he'd say, "I watch grass grow." Which would have been
twice as interesting as watching this Open. I like Louis Oosthuizen. Seems
like a good guy. Great golf swing which makes me wonder w

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

[Oliver Barry]

Surely demand for Gator season tickets has dropped with the economy along
with everything else.  But, no, our supply still doesn't meet that demand.
Somebody was thinking when they didn't increase capacity of Florida Field to
any higher than the 92000 or so seats we have.  Neyland Stadium has over
100,000 seats.  That's got to be hard to fill anytime.  I know a couple of
UT season ticket holders who just don't want to sit there and watch them get
beaten and have therefore, not renewed.

According to Pat Dooley's criteria, Alabama should be our number 1 rivalry
right now.  I'm sure sick of seeing Alabama t-shirts/car tags/hats, etc.  I
want us to beat them again and restore peace and calm to the universe!  

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:18 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf,
SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

 

So has anybody seen numbers on UF season ticket orders? I wonder if the only
reason our sales are not down is that demand has always exceeded supply and
this year we simply filled more the demand (like Woody's order).

What about the rivalry rankings? I think leading up to the Alabama game, it
will seem like the No. 1 rivalry, but Georgia is still tops with me. FSU
still has to prove it's back.

 

**

15. Another topic that is sure to result in some questions out in Hoover is
the lagging season ticket sales at several SEC schools. Georgia, South
Carolina and Tennessee are all down this year. Is it the economy or a lack
of expectations or both? Is there any way to blame BP for the drop?

16. People like to get on the SEC for scheduling cupcakes and there is
plenty of icing been spread around this year's schedules. But the Big 12
gets the softness award for scheduling only 12 of its 48 non-conference
games against BCS teams. (The SEC has 16 of 48). Maybe we're starting to
understand those lagging season ticket sales.

17. I brought this up on my radio show and offer it up to the Gator Nation.
It's my contention that Florida's rivalries change in importance depending
on what's going on with those schools. And right now I'd rank them this way
- 1. FSU, 2. Alabama, 3. Georgia, 4. Tennessee. The Vols are harmless but
the Seminoles believe they are back. That makes venom spew more freely.
Discuss.

 

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Shane Ford  wrote:


Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals



By Pat Dooley  
Gainesville SUN sports writer

Published: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 
Last Modified: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 

 

 

Summer is over for the Back Nine because it's football season. Pay no
attention to the humidity or the fact that it is July. It's football season.
Because I said so.

 

10. Is it a conspiracy? Did the world's golfers get together and decide to
try to ruin my summer? Seriously. OK, maybe my life is a vapid waste of
brain cells but one of the real joys of summer is waking up early and
watching the British Open. It was so boring, well, so boring I didn't watch
much. Instead, I went to the beach and had a couple of Oosthuizens. Oh,
wait, that's the guy who won. After a U.S. Open that failed to deliver the
British was 10 times more boring. On the way to Daytona Beach, we went by a
couple of sod farms and I joked that if one of those farmers was asked what
he does for a living he'd say, "I watch grass grow." Which would have been
twice as interesting as watching this Open. I like Louis Oosthuizen. Seems
like a good guy. Great golf swing which makes me wonder why he missed the
cut in seven of his previous eight majors. But Sunday was a drag. Bad
production values and way too much love for the mystique of the tourney.
That I could have lived with if there was interesting golf. Like, say, Tiger
Woods could still play.

11. We find ourselves wondering about the biggest reason we turn the TV on
to watch golf. Woods was very average all week. When he switched putters it
sounded like the act of a desperate man. I'm not ready to write him off but
I am going to say he's not back, not really that close. St. Andrews was
supposed to be his return to the throne. So was Pebble Beach. But the truth
is the mental strain seems to have taken its toll on the world's No. 1
golfer. Phil Mickelson? I have no explanation for the way he played,
especially the iron he hooked out of bounds on Saturday.

12. There was one great moment on Friday and that was when Tom Watson kissed
the Swilcan Bridge on 18 and took one final ovation at the old course.
Watson said he's not done with the tournament but he knows he's probably
played his last British Open at St. Andrews. It was touching. And

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

[Ken Kirkley]

Top  Rivalries??

1.  Georgia
2.  Jawga
3.  UGA
4.  scum
5.  SOW

 

Alabama doesn't even appear on the list.  Dooley may sway with the wind on
who is a rival, but Bama has not been a traditional rival and while both
their program and ours are peaking at the same time, it will have to
continue like this for the next 5 or 6 years for it to become a true
rivalry.  As it stands now, we wont play them for 4 more years after this
year unless they can make it back to the SECC to meet us in our rightful
position.

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:18 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: 7/20 21:19 --- Some boring golf,
SEC talking points and ranking rivals [Dooley]

 

So has anybody seen numbers on UF season ticket orders? I wonder if the only
reason our sales are not down is that demand has always exceeded supply and
this year we simply filled more the demand (like Woody's order).

What about the rivalry rankings? I think leading up to the Alabama game, it
will seem like the No. 1 rivalry, but Georgia is still tops with me. FSU
still has to prove it's back.

 

**

15. Another topic that is sure to result in some questions out in Hoover is
the lagging season ticket sales at several SEC schools. Georgia, South
Carolina and Tennessee are all down this year. Is it the economy or a lack
of expectations or both? Is there any way to blame BP for the drop?

16. People like to get on the SEC for scheduling cupcakes and there is
plenty of icing been spread around this year's schedules. But the Big 12
gets the softness award for scheduling only 12 of its 48 non-conference
games against BCS teams. (The SEC has 16 of 48). Maybe we're starting to
understand those lagging season ticket sales.

17. I brought this up on my radio show and offer it up to the Gator Nation.
It's my contention that Florida's rivalries change in importance depending
on what's going on with those schools. And right now I'd rank them this way
- 1. FSU, 2. Alabama, 3. Georgia, 4. Tennessee. The Vols are harmless but
the Seminoles believe they are back. That makes venom spew more freely.
Discuss.

 

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Shane Ford  wrote:


Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals



By Pat Dooley  
Gainesville SUN sports writer

Published: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 
Last Modified: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m. 

 

 

Summer is over for the Back Nine because it's football season. Pay no
attention to the humidity or the fact that it is July. It's football season.
Because I said so.

 

10. Is it a conspiracy? Did the world's golfers get together and decide to
try to ruin my summer? Seriously. OK, maybe my life is a vapid waste of
brain cells but one of the real joys of summer is waking up early and
watching the British Open. It was so boring, well, so boring I didn't watch
much. Instead, I went to the beach and had a couple of Oosthuizens. Oh,
wait, that's the guy who won. After a U.S. Open that failed to deliver the
British was 10 times more boring. On the way to Daytona Beach, we went by a
couple of sod farms and I joked that if one of those farmers was asked what
he does for a living he'd say, "I watch grass grow." Which would have been
twice as interesting as watching this Open. I like Louis Oosthuizen. Seems
like a good guy. Great golf swing which makes me wonder why he missed the
cut in seven of his previous eight majors. But Sunday was a drag. Bad
production values and way too much love for the mystique of the tourney.
That I could have lived with if there was interesting golf. Like, say, Tiger
Woods could still play.

11. We find ourselves wondering about the biggest reason we turn the TV on
to watch golf. Woods was very average all week. When he switched putters it
sounded like the act of a desperate man. I'm not ready to write him off but
I am going to say he's not back, not really that close. St. Andrews was
supposed to be his return to the throne. So was Pebble Beach. But the truth
is the mental strain seems to have taken its toll on the world's No. 1
golfer. Phil Mickelson? I have no explanation for the way he played,
especially the iron he hooked out of bounds on Saturday.

12. There was one great moment on Friday and that was when Tom Watson kissed
the Swilcan Bridge on 18 and took one final ovation at the old course.
Watson said he's not done with the tournament but he knows he's probably
played his last British Open at St. Andrews. It was touching. And kudos to
Tiger for letting Watson's group play up. Watson has been one of Tiger's
biggest critics, but there are times when you have to let those things go.

13. Speaking of which, Michael Jordan needs to back off his criticism of
LeBron James. Jordan said he wouldn't have gotten together with other
superstars to form a super team like James did. Ye

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[Woody]

Hey... i admit.. i was surprised I was able to get them at all.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Helen Huntley  wrote:

> So has anybody seen numbers on UF season ticket orders? I wonder if the
> only reason our sales are not down is that demand has always exceeded supply
> and this year we simply filled more the demand (like Woody's order).
> What about the rivalry rankings? I think leading up to the Alabama game, it
> will seem like the No. 1 rivalry, but Georgia is still tops with me. FSU
> still has to prove it's back.
>
> **
>
> 15. Another topic that is sure to result in some questions out in Hoover is
> the lagging season ticket sales at several SEC schools. Georgia, South
> Carolina and Tennessee are all down this year. Is it the economy or a lack
> of expectations or both? Is there any way to blame BP for the drop?
>
> 16. People like to get on the SEC for scheduling cupcakes and there is
> plenty of icing been spread around this year's schedules. But the Big 12
> gets the softness award for scheduling only 12 of its 48 non-conference
> games against BCS teams. (The SEC has 16 of 48). Maybe we're starting to
> understand those lagging season ticket sales.
>
> 17. I brought this up on my radio show and offer it up to the Gator Nation.
> It's my contention that Florida's rivalries change in importance depending
> on what's going on with those schools. And right now I'd rank them this way
> — 1. FSU, 2. Alabama, 3. Georgia, 4. Tennessee. The Vols are harmless but
> the Seminoles believe they are back. That makes venom spew more freely.
> Discuss.
>
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Shane Ford wrote:
>
>> Some boring golf, SEC talking points and ranking rivals
>>
>>
>> By Pat Dooley 
>> Gainesville SUN sports writer
>>
>> Published: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m.
>> Last Modified: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 at 9:19 a.m.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Summer is over for the Back Nine because it's football season. Pay no
>> attention to the humidity or the fact that it is July. It's football season.
>> Because I said so.
>>
>>
>>
>> 10. Is it a conspiracy? Did the world's golfers get together and decide to
>> try to ruin my summer? Seriously. OK, maybe my life is a vapid waste of
>> brain cells but one of the real joys of summer is waking up early and
>> watching the British Open. It was so boring, well, so boring I didn't watch
>> much. Instead, I went to the beach and had a couple of Oosthuizens. Oh,
>> wait, that's the guy who won. After a U.S. Open that failed to deliver the
>> British was 10 times more boring. On the way to Daytona Beach, we went by a
>> couple of sod farms and I joked that if one of those farmers was asked what
>> he does for a living he'd say, "I watch grass grow." Which would have been
>> twice as interesting as watching this Open. I like Louis Oosthuizen. Seems
>> like a good guy. Great golf swing which makes me wonder why he missed the
>> cut in seven of his previous eight majors. But Sunday was a drag. Bad
>> production values and way too much love for the mystique of the tourney.
>> That I could have lived with if there was interesting golf. Like, say, Tiger
>> Woods could still play.
>>
>> 11. We find ourselves wondering about the biggest reason we turn the TV on
>> to watch golf. Woods was very average all week. When he switched putters it
>> sounded like the act of a desperate man. I'm not ready to write him off but
>> I am going to say he's not back, not really that close. St. Andrews was
>> supposed to be his return to the throne. So was Pebble Beach. But the truth
>> is the mental strain seems to have taken its toll on the world's No. 1
>> golfer. Phil Mickelson? I have no explanation for the way he played,
>> especially the iron he hooked out of bounds on Saturday.
>>
>> 12. There was one great moment on Friday and that was when Tom Watson
>> kissed the Swilcan Bridge on 18 and took one final ovation at the old
>> course. Watson said he's not done with the tournament but he knows he's
>> probably played his last British Open at St. Andrews. It was touching. And
>> kudos to Tiger for letting Watson's group play up. Watson has been one of
>> Tiger's biggest critics, but there are times when you have to let those
>> things go.
>>
>> 13. Speaking of which, Michael Jordan needs to back off his criticism of
>> LeBron James. Jordan said he wouldn't have gotten together with other
>> superstars to form a super team like James did. Yeah, except one of the 50
>> greatest players of all-time ended up on your team, MJ. Jordan is the best
>> ever to play the game and he's hardly the only person to be critical of
>> Miami Thrice, but I think he went a little far. All I know is the NBA has
>> been relevant in July for the first time since, well, ever. Not always for
>> the right reason. Dwyane Wade's comments pushed the good taste boundaries.
>> He said that the media would make it seem like the World Trade Center was
>> falling down again if the Heat lost two or three games in a row. He did