Re: g_b Perhaps love is the process

[Sanjay Lulla]

hail the creator of little prince :-)
 little prince-Sanjay N Lulla 





From: dunno76 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, July 25, 2011 7:13:21 PM
Subject: g_b Perhaps love is the process

  
Perhaps love is the process of my leading you gently back to yourself. Not whom 
I want you to be, but to who you are. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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Re: g_b Real achievement!

[Tintin Mumbai India]

Mike,
Tumhaare joke joke... Aur doosre ke joke ka balaatkaar???

Asfan,
koi nahi...
ye kal ke launde kya jaane, ki kitni sadiyon se tum, sorry aap, gb par
hansi ki phuljhadiyaan bikherte aaye ho...
Abhay, A die hard pankha of asfan jokes.

On 7/25/11, Mike Morea  wrote:
> Who was the lucky ones here? Others that cud have been in serious trouble?
>
> Morea
>
>
>
> 
> From: asfan 
> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; gaybom...@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, July 25, 2011 2:06:31 AM
> Subject: g_b Real achievement!
>
>
>
> I would just like to share an experience with you all, and it has to do with
> drinking and driving. As you know some of us have had brushes with the
> authorities on our way home from the odd soiree over the years?
>
>
> Well I for one have done something about it: Last night I was out for a few
> drinks with some fellow-gays and had way too many scotch's as well as beers.
>
> Knowing full well I was sozzled, I did something I've never done before - I
> took
> a bus home. I arrived home safely and without incident which was a real
> surprise, since I had never driven a bus before
>
> asfan
>

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Re: g_b Real achievement!

[asfan]

Only he was driving.  If you had been in that bus wouldn't 
you and the other passengers have kicked up a ruckus?
So much fuss over a mere joke!  Really!!!

asfan

--- On Mon, 25/7/11, Mike Morea  wrote:


From: Mike Morea 
Subject: Re: g_b Real achievement!
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 25 July, 2011, 3:00 PM

  





Who was the lucky ones here? Others that cud have been in serious trouble?
Morea

g_b how to deal with a crisis

[moderator]

Crisis, chaos, havoc, unleashed hell. I know you've been through this at
least once in your lifetime. Going through such an experience is painful.
But, as a person who probably hit considerably more crisis than the average,
I know there is something even worse than going through a crisis. And that's
not learning something from it.

We're still under the effects of one of the worst economical crisis in the
history of the world and many of us are still feeling the effects. Maybe you
lost your job or maybe your personal partnership faded away. Whatever the
case, we're swimming on an agitated ocean. Another crisis, being it
profession or personal, may hit any time.

Without further ado, here's a list of possible approaches to help you raise
again after you got hit by the hurricane.

1. Accept It

You can/t control something if you're not accepting it. You simply don't
have handles for it. Denial is one of the most common answers to crisis and,
unfortunately, one of the most toxic. As simple and dumb as it may seem,
just accepting that you're going through a crisis will clear a lot of the
fog around. Just accept that things didn't go like planned and see how you
can move on.

2. Browse Through Similar Crisis In Your Experience

Believe it or not, we're doing the same mistakes over and over again. We may
change some of the actors and circumstances, but, generally speaking, we're
repetitive in our mistakes. So, the first thing to do when hitting a crisis
is to look back in your own history: have you been there before? Why? What
did you do to escape it? How is the current crisis different form the last
similar one?

3. Browse Through Similar Crisis In Other People Experiences

But since we're creative individuals, we can also make new mistakes. In that
case, your personal experience may not help. Luckily, chances that other
people have been exposed to the same disaster that you're going through
right now are really high. So, try to find out how other people dealt with
that. Read on, listen, ask questions, be curious. It will help.

4. Step Away From It

It's not like running away, but more like trying to understand what you're
going through in a different way. A new "thinking hat" or the famous
thinking "outside of the box". It's not always possible, but having this
option somewhere in your bag can help. Just try to say to yourself something
like "It's obvious that my current thinking brought me here, let's just try
something else".

5. Ask For Help

Reach out. Ask. Be open and honest about your situation. You'll be surprised
how many reliable persons are out there, just waiting to be pitched. Many
times our crisis are erupting exactly because we try to do too much on our
own, without interacting with other people. We're social animals and not
asking for help goes against our nature. Forget pride. During crisis, pride
is the first thing you should throw away.

6. Buy More Time

One of the most painful things during a crisis is the pressure. We have to
do things (or respond to various stimuli) very fast. A strategy that seemed
to work for me was to try to buy some time. Postpone responses for as long
as you can. The crisis time window is usually very narrow. Eventually,
things will be back on track, one way or another.

7. Negotiate

Nothing is set in stone. Yes, you may have lost something (your job, your
house, your relationship) but that doesn't mean you can't react to that.
Always negotiate. You have this right and you should use it. If your culture
banishes negotiation for being "ungentlemanly' just look around and
evaluate. Is your crisis a "gentlemanly" situation? I thought so.

8. Alleviate The Effects As Fast As Possible

The worst thing you can do when an arsonist is putting your house on fire is
to chase the guy and leave your house burning. That's a Buddhist proverb, by
the way. Subsequently, during a crisis you should always try to minimize the
damage as fast as you can, in order to keep yourself functional. Trying to
eliminate the cause of the crisis while you're still under its effects is
useless.

9. Cut The Ropes

Or just throw away anything that is useless. During a crisis, it's vital
that you move fast. Being slim takes a new meaning. Responding fast to
stimulus, moving on with lightening speed may make the difference between
death and survival. More often than not, crisis are arising specifically
because we get too attached to habits, contexts or persons who are no longer
good for us.

10. Secure Vital Resources

This may seem strange and passive, but many times, at the end of a personal
crisis, I realized that winning or losing was merely a question of how many
vital resources I had. Rationalize food, for instance, if you're lost in the
woods. Stop spending money foolishly, if you're fired. Whatever it takes so
that your resources will not dry faster than you need them.

11. Write A Worse Case Scenario

By far my favourite approach. Just take a sheet of paper and write down
everything that may 

g_b Monday [2 Attachments]

[Jorge Alberto]

g_b Navin weds Navin [2 Attachments]

[moderator]

Rediff.com's Aseem Chhabra witnessed the reflection of the struggle for
equal marriage rights for gay and lesbians in New York city on Sunday where
over hundred same-sex couples took their vows. Among the couples was an
Indian American couple too.

Navin Dargani and Navin Manglani have been together as a couple for six
years and last month the two held a commitment ceremony in California with
family and friends. 

But on Sunday, July 24, the two young men, both residents of New York City,
lined up before 9 am at the marriage bureau on 100 Worth Street in Manhattan
to get their relationship officially approved by the New York State.  

They were able to get a license, a judicial waiver for the 24 hour waiting
period and get married the same day.

"It's nice to know that fellow New Yorkers respect our relationship and can
honour our love," Dargani said as he stood in the line with a couple of
hundred people ahead and behind him. 

he two wore similar clothes -- shorts (it has been miserably hot in city for
the past few days), shirts and bow ties.  

"I feel like it is the social validation of our relationship," Manglani said
about the reason they chose to get married.  

"That's meant a lot to us for many years, but to have that kind of a nod
from the society elevates it to a different level and goes to show it is no
different than any other relationship."

Thirty days after New York Governor Andrew Cuomo signed the law legalising
same sex marriage, hundreds of couples gathered at different marriage
bureaus in parts of the state. 

The largest gathering -- all very orderly, with a festive mood, was in New
York City, where 659 couples picked up licenses and 484 wed at the marriage
bureaus in all of the city's five boroughs.  The largest numbers of
marriages were conducted in Manhattan -- 293 in total. 

 

 

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g_b After Long Wait, Same-Sex Couples Marry in New York [7 Attachments]

[asfan]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/25/nyregion/after-long-wait-same-sex-couples-marry-in-new-york.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha2
   




 
 
 After Long Wait, Same-Sex Couples Marry in New York





 
Ruth Fremson/The New York Times
Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg officiated at the wedding of two of his staff 
members, Jonathan Mintz, left, and John Feinblatt. The couple's two young 
daughters, Georgia and Maeve, were there to celebrate. 
By MICHAEL BARBARO
Published: July 24, 2011 



 

Hundreds of gay and lesbian couples, from retirees in Woodstock to college 
students in Manhattan, rushed to tiny town halls and big city clerks’ offices 
across New York to wed in the first hours of legal same-sex marriage on Sunday, 
turning a slumbering summer day into an emotional celebration. 



Multimedia


 
Portraits From the New York City Marriage Bureau




 
I Now Pronounce You ...


Same-Sex Couples Marry in New York



 
 


 
Mylan Cannon/The New York Times
Hundreds of same-sex couples waited outside the Manhattan clerk's office 
on Sunday, the first day they could get marriage licenses. Enlarge This Image

 
Ty Cacek/The New York Times
Opponents of same-sex marriage gathered at 41st Street and Third Avenue in 
Manhattan on Sunday to protest the new law.
 

They arrived by subway cars and stretch limousines, with children and with 
grandparents, in matching sequined ties and pinstriped suits, to utter words 
that once seemed unimaginable: I do. 
 
Even those who had been together for decades, watching same-sex marriage become 
legal in surrounding states but suffer rejection in New York, said there was 
something unexpectedly moving and affirming about having their unions 
recognized by the state in which they live. 
 
“We feel a little more human today,” Ray Durand, 68, said moments after 
marrying his partner, Dale Shields, 79, whom he met 42 years ago by a jukebox 
in a West Village bar. 
 
The start of same-sex marriage in New York instantly doubled the number of 
Americans who live in states where gay and lesbian couples can wed. Gay-rights 
advocates, energized by their victory in New York — the sixth and largest state 
where it is allowed — are turning their attention next to Maryland, but they 
face long odds in much of the country, where there are tougher legal and 
political obstacles. 
Several thousand people rallied in Midtown Manhattan to protest the new law, 
waving signs that said “God cannot be mocked” and calling for a public 
referendum on same-sex marriage. Their cries were echoed by smaller crowds in a 
few cities upstate. 
 
“Today, we start the war,” State Senator Ruben Díaz Sr., a Bronx Democrat, 
declared. 
 
Despite the demonstrations, long lines and bureaucratic glitches, a spirit of 
patience and good humor pervaded. In Lower Manhattan, brides and grooms 
defiantly opened dozens of rainbow-colored umbrellas to block the protesters 
from view. 
 
There were scenes, too, of striking public embrace. Outside marriage bureaus, 
police officers offered unsolicited congratulations, passers-by honked their 
horns and strangers tossed hand-made confetti at the newlyweds. 
 
After a bruising multiyear legislative battle that ended when the State Senate 
approved same-sex marriage last month by a narrow margin, some of the state’s 
top elected officials seemed determined on Sunday to demonstrate public support 
for the new law. 
 
Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo hosted a party for same-sex marriage advocates in 
Manhattan, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg presided at a wedding in the backyard of 
Gracie Mansion, and the City Council speaker, Christine C. Quinn, visited 
marriage bureaus in several boroughs. 
 
The bulk of the day’s marriages took place in New York City, where 659 couples 
picked up licenses and 484 wed at city marriage bureaus: 293 in Manhattan, 66 
in Queens, 66 in Brooklyn, 32 on Staten Island and 27 in the Bronx. Most were 
New York residents, but 107 of those who married in the city had arrived from 
other states, mostly those, like California and Alabama, where same-sex 
marriage is not legal. 
But even far from Manhattan, city and town offices opened their doors on a day 
when they would ordinarily have been closed, sometimes just for a handful of 
weddings. Binghamton had five; Buffalo and Syracuse, eight. 
 
In Shandaken, a town of 3,100 in the Catskills, the town clerk issued just one 
marriage license, to a New Jersey couple: Katie Morgan, 37, a freelance 
television producer, and Brooke Barnett, 30, a wine consultant, who have a 
weekend home in Shandaken. 
 
Three communities — Niagara Falls, Albany and Hudson — were so eager to marry 
gays and lesbians that began to do so shortly before midnight. 
 
At 12:01 a.m., with the roaring waters of Niagara Falls behind him, a 
tuxedo-clad Mayor Paul A. Dyster officiated at the wedding of Kitty Lambert, 
54, and Cheryle Rudd, 53, who have been together since they met while working 
at a paper goods company in Arizona 12 years ago. Th

Re: g_b American couple looking for a flat

[Ramesh]

At the risk of sounding patronizing, I must caution you to be very careful and 
do a thorough background search on whoever contacts you with an offer.  There 
are cheats lurking everywhere, maybe even in this group.  I would suggest that 
you contact someone from www.humsafar.org, who are based in a Bombay suburb 
close to Bandra/Khar, to refer you to an estate agent or a person whom you can 
trust.
Good luck!
Ramesh

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, littleozzyman  wrote:

From: littleozzyman 
Subject: g_b American couple looking for a flat
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 6:24 AM

Hi All,

My boyfriend and I are moving to Mumbai for the next 10 months on research 
grants and we're searching for a nice flat to live in, ideally near 
Bandra/Khar. Anybody have any suggestions or know of an available place? We're 
on a modest budget so nothing too expensive!

Thanks, and looking forward to connecting with Gay Bombay when we get to the 
city :)

-Jordan






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g_b Perhaps love is the process

[dunno76]

Perhaps love is the process of my leading you gently back to yourself.
Not whom I want you to be, but to who you are. -- Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

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Re: g_b about gay sexuality.

[Ron Lussier]

I believe that while Freud was ground-breaking, research has continued since
1939.

For example, you might want to consider this study:

   - A Genetic Study of Male Sexual
Orientation

Also note this quote from Massachusetts General
Hospital
:

> *Whatever the source of sexual preference, it develops well before puberty
> and cannot be changed by conscious efforts.*


On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:12 AM, siva prakash  wrote:

> **
>
>
> hello
> i just want to point a truth according to the study of Sigmond Froed. every
> human being is born with same inherent common sexuality. (not applicable to
> trasgenders) so nobody born as a gay as many of the activits say. it is his
> earlier experience make him a gay or straight. it verymuch correct with me
> and everyperson i came across. we got some experience from somebdy and found
> it is very much relaxing from the difficulties we were in that time. so we
> should determine not to bring any new guys in this field. all of you have
> every right to critisise it. but it is the truth.
>  
>



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as contagious as despair: your hope, or show of hope, is a gift you can give
to your neighbour, and may even help to prevent or delay the destruction of
his world," — Primo Levi, 1985

g_b Screening of `I Am' documentary in Pune (31st Jul)

[Moderator Prayatna]

Hello

Open
 Space, Birds of a Feather & QUEST-Prayatna invite you to the 
screening of I Am (Duration: 72 mins Directed by Sonali Gulati)

I
 Am chronicles the journey of an Indian lesbian filmmaker who returns to
 Delhi, eleven years later, to re-open what was once home, and finally 
confronts the loss of her mother whom she never came out to. As she 
meets and speaks to parents of other gay and lesbian Indians, she pieces
 together the fabric of what family truly means, in a landscape where 
being gay was until recently a criminal and punishable offense.

Sonali
 Gulati is an independent filmmaker, a feminist, grass-roots activist, 
and an educator. She is an Associate Professor at Virginia Commonwealth 
University's Department of Photography & Film. Ms. Gulati has made 
several short films that have screened at over two hundred film 
festivals worldwide.

This event is free, donations at the door would be appreciated.

For more information please get in touch with Open Space at 020-2545737.

Venue: Sumnat Moolgaonkar Hall, ICC towers, Senapati Bapat Rd.
Date & Time: 31st Jul 2011, 5.30pm to 7.30pm


 

Re: g_b Re: [gb] Real achievement!

[Aditya Bondyopadhyay]

He was so drunk that he took a bus and DROVE it home...
knock knock Kris

On 25 July 2011 13:05, Kris Bass  wrote:

> **
>
>
> What's the irony here?
>
> Kris
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:36 PM, asfan  wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I would just like to share an experience with you all, and it has to do
>> with drinking and driving. As you know some of us have had brushes with the
>> authorities on our way home from the odd soiree over the years?
>>
>>
>> Well I for one have done something about it: Last night I was out for a
>> few drinks with some fellow-gays and had way too many scotch's as well as
>> beers.  Knowing full well I was sozzled, I did something I've never done
>> before - I took a bus home. I arrived home safely and without incident which
>> was a real surprise, since I had never driven a bus before
>>
>>
>>
>> asfan
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> http://engayginglife.blogspot.com
>
> "Remember that if men were not meant to be sucked, their bodies wouldn't
> have come with a nozzle!" - A Gay
>
>  
>



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-- 
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Re: g_b Real achievement!

[Mike Morea]

Who was the lucky ones here? Others that cud have been in serious trouble?

Morea




From: asfan 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; gaybom...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, July 25, 2011 2:06:31 AM
Subject: g_b Real achievement!

  
  
I would just like to share an experience with you all, and it has to do with 
drinking and driving. As you know some of us have had brushes with the 
authorities on our way home from the odd soiree over the years? 


Well I for one have done something about it: Last night I was out for a few 
drinks with some fellow-gays and had way too many scotch's as well as beers.  
Knowing full well I was sozzled, I did something I've never done before - I 
took 
a bus home. I arrived home safely and without incident which was a real 
surprise, since I had never driven a bus before

asfan 
 

g_b A lesbian couple from Manesar, a small town near New Delhi, dared to marry against the wishes of their families. They were threatened for their actions and are now seeking protection from court.

[moderator]

 

 

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/lesbian-couple-near-delhi-threatened-b
y-family/206057

 

A lesbian couple from Manesar, a small town near New Delhi, dared to marry
against the wishes of their families. They were threatened for their actions
and are now seeking protection from court.

 

 

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Re: g_b about gay sexuality.

[Aditya Bondyopadhyay]

FROED was funny.
I think its because he did not know me before he wrote his paper.
:-))
Aditya B

On 24 July 2011 23:42, siva prakash  wrote:

> **
>
>
> hello
> i just want to point a truth according to the study of Sigmond Froed. every
> human being is born with same inherent common sexuality. (not applicable to
> trasgenders) so nobody born as a gay as many of the activits say. it is his
> earlier experience make him a gay or straight. it verymuch correct with me
> and everyperson i came across. we got some experience from somebdy and found
> it is very much relaxing from the difficulties we were in that time. so we
> should determine not to bring any new guys in this field. all of you have
> every right to critisise it. but it is the truth.
>  
>



-- 
-- 
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Development Sector Consultant
Advocate (Regd. No. F-218/192 of 1997, Bar Council of W.Bengal, India)

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Communication not intended for you but reaching you inadvertently needs to
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g_b Re: [gb] Real achievement!

[Kris Bass]

What's the irony here?

Kris

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:36 PM, asfan  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> I would just like to share an experience with you all, and it has to do
> with drinking and driving. As you know some of us have had brushes with the
> authorities on our way home from the odd soiree over the years?
>
>
> Well I for one have done something about it: Last night I was out for a few
> drinks with some fellow-gays and had way too many scotch's as well as
> beers.  Knowing full well I was sozzled, I did something I've never done
> before - I took a bus home. I arrived home safely and without incident which
> was a real surprise, since I had never driven a bus before
>
>
>
> asfan
>
>  
>



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have come with a nozzle!" - A Gay

g_b Real achievement!

[asfan]

 
I would just like to share an experience with you all, and it has to do with 
drinking and driving. As you know some of us have had brushes with the 
authorities on our way home from the odd soiree over the years?

Well I for one have done something about it: Last night I was out for a few 
drinks with some fellow-gays and had way too many scotch's as well as beers.  
Knowing full well I was sozzled, I did something I've never done before - I 
took a bus home. I arrived home safely and without incident which was a real 
surprise, since I had never driven a bus before

asfan

g_b American couple looking for a flat

[littleozzyman]

Hi All,

My boyfriend and I are moving to Mumbai for the next 10 months on research 
grants and we're searching for a nice flat to live in, ideally near 
Bandra/Khar. Anybody have any suggestions or know of an available place? We're 
on a modest budget so nothing too expensive!

Thanks, and looking forward to connecting with Gay Bombay when we get to the 
city :)

-Jordan

g_b Post Man ...

[Mike Morea]

Three women were sitting around throwing back a few drinks and  talking about 
their love lives. Cathy giggled and confessed, "I call my husband the miner 
because of his incredible shaft."Tracy said, "I call my husband the dentist. 
Nobody can drill like he does."
Dawn quietly sipped her whiskey until Tracy asked, "Say, what do  you call your 
husband?"
Dawn frowned and said, "The postman." "Why the postman?" asked Cathy. "Because 
he always delivers late, and half the time it's in the wrong box."

g_b about gay sexuality.

[siva prakash]

hello
i just want to point a truth according to the study of Sigmond Froed. every 
human being is born with same inherent common sexuality. (not applicable to 
trasgenders) so nobody born as a gay as many of the activits say. it is his 
earlier experience make him a gay or straight. it verymuch correct with me and 
everyperson i came across. we got some experience from somebdy and found it is 
very much relaxing from the difficulties we were in that time.  so we should 
determine not to bring any new guys in this field.  all of you have every right 
to critisise it. but it is the truth.

g_b Sunday [1 Attachment]

[Jorge Alberto]

Re: g_b 2nd reply Aditya's suggestion on Organised gay dating system

[Mayank Kumar]

But why are we limiting ourselves to only "finding soulmates". I am sure there 
are many like me who dont wanna get in another relationship.
The name will have an important role to play in what everyone wants!




From: Sanjay Lulla 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 23 July, 2011 7:40:09 PM
Subject: Re: g_b 2nd reply Aditya's suggestion on Organised gay dating system

  
Swayamvar sounds neat. Where's my jaymala or my horse I can kidnap my Sanyogita 
oops Sanyog.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:48 GST Ivo Marques wrote:

>
>
>On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 02:28 EDT Ivo Marques wrote:
>
>>*continued* ¤3¤ face to face meet will minimize the fear of rejection 
>>everything 
>>will be decided on the spot, no guessing games about how your prince charming 
>>will look like or will he be ready to sleep with me or not etc *4* networking 
>>with suitable gay guys from all walks of life will grow in leaps and bounds 
>>#5# 
>>those who have lost hope of finding a match will start emerging and closeted 
>>and 
>>frustrated gays too will get a platform to cruise easily in an arranged 
>>manner 
>>*6* we will easily identify people of our type living in our city or 
>>neighborhood and feel free to confide in them or be in their company without 
>>the 
>>fear of being trashed §7§ everyone like top, vers, btm, cdr, feminine, 
>>masculine, eunuch, bi, gigolo, gay for pay etc physically will be present 
>>under 
>>one roof to find a date in an organised fashion and this will surely be a win 
>>win sitution"-" adi you're right when you said in an actual event only a 
>>limited 
>>tie-up will be there and
>> very few people might turn up but let me tell you this once everyone learns 
>>that a certain "organised gay dating system" takes place on certain days at a 
>>certain venue and on a regular basis people from every corner of the city and 
>>every part of the country will flock to this get together to find a suitable 
>>soul mate. It would be a sort of gay mela for the gays. And who knows in 
>>future 
>>some biggies might start sponsoring such events? What say agree, disagree 
>>yes, 
>>no, maybe?  And the good thing is if you attend this and don't find your 
>>mr 
>>right. Then there will always be another tomorrow as the event will be tri 
>>weekly or more. Till then we all can watch the tamasha of others hooking up 
>>with 
>>each other, hormones surging and cast our spell on our prospective 'dulhas'. 
>>i 
>>intend to send this suggestion of "organised gay dating system to every 
>>internet 
>>gay groups in the city until someone  with the resources and power 
>>revolutionizes this concept into
>> reality thanks for reading. My email ivmarq87...@yahoo.com
>


 

g_b One Step Forward, More to Take

[asfan]

  


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun2.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha211   
 



THE NEW YORK TIMES 
July 23, 2011

One Step Forward, More to Take

It was a profoundly important and deeply gratifying sight: Some of the top 
officers and civilian leaders of the United States military announcing at the 
Pentagon on Friday that they had, at last, given their approval to tearing down 
one of the last walls of official bigotry and discrimination in the United 
States. 
 
President Obama, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Adm. Mike Mullen, the 
chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed a letter certifying that the 
military was ready to lift the rule requiring that gay, lesbian and bisexual 
Americans lie about themselves in order to serve in the armed forces. In 
typically ponderous bureaucratic language, the letter said that they had 
concluded that allowing openly gay people to serve “is consistent with the 
standards of military readiness, military effectiveness, unit cohesion, and 
recruiting and retention of the armed forces.” 
 
Those conclusions should be laughably obvious. But given the noxious state of 
politics these days, this would likely still not have happened without the 
strong leadership of Admiral Mullen, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates and 
his chief lawyer, Jeh Charles Johnson. 
 
With the Pentagon’s backing, Senators Carl Levin of Michigan, the chairman of 
the Armed Services Committee, and Kirsten Gillibrand of New York worked 
tirelessly to rally the votes in Congress to reverse the disastrous “don’t ask, 
don’t tell” law. Some Republicans were also, thankfully, willing to stand up 
for equal rights for all Americans. 
 
The 1993 statute enshrined the Pentagon’s discriminatory treatment of gay 
soldiers in federal law, after President Bill Clinton bungled an attempt to 
change the policy and faced an unseemly rebellion from the top brass, including 
Colin Powell, who was then chairman of the Joint Chiefs. (That bitter memory 
made Admiral Mullen’s enthusiastic support for repeal even sweeter.) Over the 
next two decades, more than 13,000 patriotic Americans were drummed out of the 
military under this misbegotten law. 
 
The certification on Friday came after a protracted — and unnecessary — 
Pentagon study of the consequences of repealing ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.” It 
concluded that — like the racial integration of the military in the late 1940s 
and the 1950s, and the gender integration of the 1970s — allowing gay Americans 
to serve openly in their country’s uniform would have little or no practical 
impact on the armed forces. 
 
The ban does not actually get lifted for 60 days. The wait, once again, is 
frustrating, but at least the military is already restrained by court order 
from enforcing the unconstitutional rule. Even after the 60 days, there will 
likely be lingering discrimination. 
 
The military cannot, for example, require chaplains to perform same-sex 
marriages. That is because of the — Orwellian-named — Defense of Marriage Act, 
the 1996 law that prohibits the federal government from recognizing same-sex 
unions. It also allows the states to ignore legal marriages from other states — 
if the couple is of the same sex. 
 
This law, too, is blatantly unconstitutional, which the Obama adm
inistration recognized by announcing that it would no longer defend it in 
court. It is well past time for Congress to repeal it. Conservatives should be 
the most eager to see repeal. It is one of the worst examples of big-
government interference on the books today.